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When you shower, what is the direction you face during most of the duration of the shower?

Towards the stream of water
71
26%
Away from the stream of water
164
61%
Duck/Otter
34
13%
 
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Cane » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:43 pm UTC

LTK wrote:
Magnanimous wrote:It took me way too long to realize that the thread title could be a pun.

Huh?

I guess the shower curtain rod could be called a shower pole.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Magnanimous » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:02 pm UTC

Cane wrote:
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Magnanimous wrote:It took me way too long to realize that the thread title could be a pun.

Huh?

I guess the shower curtain rod could be called a shower pole.

Sort of. They aren't as common these days, but I used to have one.

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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Dave_Wise » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:20 pm UTC

It took me way too long to realize that the thread title could be a pun.

Puns are the second lowest form of wit.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby EmilyR » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:24 pm UTC

Both, depending on what I'm washing.

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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby You, sir, name? » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:19 pm UTC

Dave_Wise wrote:
It took me way too long to realize that the thread title could be a pun.

Puns are the second lowest form of wit.


Who designed the hierarchy of wit?
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Dave_Wise » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:26 pm UTC

I did. I know that means it's recognised by exactly one person, but if you bear with me I think you'll find I have perfectly good reasons for placing puns second. People often say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. They are wrong. The lowest form of wit is that which requires no conscious thought whatsoever- the act of repeating what somebody has just said in a silly voice. The second lowest, the pun, requires only enough powers of observation to notice that a word can have two meanings. The third lowest, sarcasm, requires only enough intelligence to reverse what you intend to say and, aurally, to lower your tone of voice. I'm open to the hierarchy being revised and new additions, of course. I'm not saying I don't like these forms of wit though- I like a lot of low things, like mushrooms and toilet humour.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby CHR1110 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:30 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:
Dave_Wise wrote:
It took me way too long to realize that the thread title could be a pun.

Puns are the second lowest form of wit.


Who designed the hierarchy of wit?


Someone who wasn't very witty.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby sillybear25 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:01 am UTC

Magnanimous wrote:It took me way too long to realize that the thread title could be a pun.
I can see the pun, but it's kind of a stretch, and there was no pun intended. Sorry.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby EmptySet » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:42 am UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:I'm not freakishly tall or anything, just 194 cm / 6'4"-ish. That has me being taller than most regular people, but shorter than most professional basketball players. The problem, besides what you describe, is that 40 years ago when my apartment in was built, my height was freakishly tall.


Oh, yeah, the ancient building problem. I've been in an old hotel where the showerhead is at chest height and tilts downwards. Had to kneel down to wash my hair.

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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby MildlyUpsetGrizzlyBear » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:29 pm UTC

why do we flush our shit with the same water that we shower with?

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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Zohar » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:50 pm UTC

What water are we supposed to use? You do realize the water from the toilet doesn't drain into your shower head, right?
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Cane » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:40 pm UTC

MildlyUpsetGrizzlyBear wrote:why do we flush our shit with the same water that we shower with?

This is actually something that is starting to change in a lot of new construction. Water from showers, tubs, and sinks (non-food prep) and from rain water, filtered to remove non-dissolved solids, is considered "gray water" and can be reused for a variety of purposes, including toilet flushes and landscape irrigation. The US Green Building Council has a program called Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) that highlights a number of ways to make your building more green - one of the most important sections is one water usage reduction. Building can be built with or renovated to include gray water collection and reuse systems to greatly reduce the amount of potable water where it is not needed. Some municipalities also have non-potable supplies that undergo less treatment and are suitable for similar purposes.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Dave_Wise » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:12 pm UTC

For that matter, why do we flush our shit at all? It's just paying money to take away prefectly good fertiliser and create an ecological problem with it to boot. A properly built earth closet/compost toilet doesn't smell and costs a fraction of the price, yet I can't persuade my landlord to install one.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:17 pm UTC

What's the population density of your neck of the woods, Wise? What is the square footage needed per person? Does it change when multiple people are using the same space? Is there an upper limit to the number of people who can use one before it becomes overloaded and cannot compose fast enough to prevent the water table being compromised?

Does it matter how deep the water table is?
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Dave_Wise » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:34 pm UTC

None of those are actually an issue- the waste can easily be removed into a municipal compost heap which would be above the water table. A lot of towns and cities already have municipal compost heaps, so you just double the space already used by those facilities. But in the absence of such an organised system, the issue shrinks even further. If you have space for a compost heap, and most people do somewhere, you probably have enough space for another compost heap that composts for a much longer time and the compost can be labelled 'surface mulch for fruit trees only'. And how many people would you expect to be using a private lavatory?

What's more, when water closets were first introduced, hygeine standards went down.
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Postby SecondTalon » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:51 pm UTC

I'm just still wondering how feasible that is when the population density is above 5,000 per square mile. If it's something that can be put into place for large metropolitan areas.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Cane » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:56 pm UTC

No-flush urinals also exist that rely on a buoyant fluid in the bend to create a vapor seal.
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I know less about composting toilets, but everything I've heard agrees with Dave about there being a very good cost/benefit ratio. Don't know about how population density factors in.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Dave_Wise » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:09 pm UTC

I'm not sure it's even necessary to make them non-flush. Obviously it would be ideal if they could be, because there's all that infected water to deal with, but composting actually works better if you water the heap periodically. As long as you put in plenty of dry, bulky stuff to prevent the heap from becoming anaerobic, you could convert an existing sewage plant into a composting plant quite easily.

I don't know because I can't be bothered to do the maths, but I suspect that it's really no more difficult to do than sterilising the stuff and pumping it into the sea, and much more profitable than just using the oceans directly as a cesspool. Which, realistically, is what's actually being done.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Goldstein » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:34 pm UTC

So at current count just 24% of people face toward the stream of water.

I was reminded of this thread earlier today, taking a shower after playing football at the leisure centre. In communal showers, it seems 100% of guys face toward the stream of water.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Dave_Wise » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:37 pm UTC

I think orientation towards the wall might be more significant than towards the stream of water in that context. Not that having your ass pointed towards spectators is such a good idea either...
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Josephine » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:35 pm UTC

It's like some weird variant of game theory. If nobody turns around, they're all safe.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby BoomFrog » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:26 am UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:
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You, sir, name? wrote:I have a removable shower head, so I grab the shower head and direct the water manually to whatever body-parts require rinsing. But then, I'm a tall guy in a world apparently designed for exceptionally short dwarf pygmys, so the shower-head's mounting place is too low to shower the top of my head properly.


I actually have that problem sometimes and I'm not unusually tall. My theory is that many things are based on the average height of the entire populace, which due to sexual dimorphism means that they're a bit too large for the average woman and a bit too small for the average man.


I'm not freakishly tall or anything, just 194 cm / 6'4"-ish. That has me being taller than most regular people, but shorter than most professional basketball players. The problem, besides what you describe, is that 40 years ago when my apartment in was built, my height was freakishly tall.

I'm 6'6" and living in China. I need to duck down to even wash my neck. I face forward mostly since theirs no need to shield my face.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby emceng » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:15 pm UTC

You are all freaks when it comes to showering. I do it the only proper way. Face the water stream to wet self and hair. Rotate clockwise 135 degrees to apply shampoo. Return to facing the water stream to rinse shampoo. Rotate to 135 degrees to apply soap. Rotate as needed to apply and rinse soap off. Final rinse facing water stream. Done.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby valiade » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:40 pm UTC

most, if not all the time I sit down about half way in the showering process. does anyone else do this?
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby a_fuzzyduck » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:44 pm UTC

I only wish I had a shower again. Ah well, back to the flat hunting...

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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby You, sir, name? » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:46 pm UTC

The part of ysn? that has taken vector calculus would like to claim that I'm always facing the water, unless I'm spraying water myself. Which seldom do while I shower. As that's quite unsanitary.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Kolko » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:26 pm UTC

I always face away from the water, there's a bit more to see that way. :lol:

Another thing I was wondering about shower positions, I guess this is the place :)

How do you stand while not washing yourself, just enjoying the water? I generally stand with the backs of my hands against my neck, but that seems like a weird way to stand. I'm wondering how other people do this ^^

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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby King Author » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:51 pm UTC

My shower goes like this: adjust the water, rinse myself down, wash my hair facing away from the stream, turn the water off, lather up (because it takes several minutes), turn the water back on and rinse off by twirling around in the water, heh.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby KestrelLowing » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:32 pm UTC

Kolko wrote:I always face away from the water, there's a bit more to see that way. :lol:

Another thing I was wondering about shower positions, I guess this is the place :)

How do you stand while not washing yourself, just enjoying the water? I generally stand with the backs of my hands against my neck, but that seems like a weird way to stand. I'm wondering how other people do this ^^


If I'm just standing there, especially when it's cold in the bathroom, I'll face the water, and have my arms kind of protect my chest with my fists near my neck. My arms don't actually cross. I guess it's just another way to stay warm. I refuse to pay for a heating bill until I have to wear my winter coat inside the apartment, or if sweatpants aren't sufficient.

Overall, I'll face away from the shower when I'm doing something (except washing my face or back) and towards when I'm just relaxing.

As to the lowness of showerheads, I have that problem too, even though I'm only 5'10", which is slightly tall for a girl, but I think the average for a guy. It's a huge problem in hotels - I think specifically because nearly all of them have those new showers that you just put on top of whatever was there before, making the distance from tub to showerhead quite a bit smaller.

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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Goldstein » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:59 pm UTC

KestrelLowing wrote:If I'm just standing there, especially when it's cold in the bathroom, I'll face the water, and have my arms kind of protect my chest with my fists near my neck.

Yeah, I do this too. I've never understood why.
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Re: The Shower Poll

Postby Squid Tamer » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:18 am UTC

I stand sideways in the shower. I'm a bit surprised that it wasn't a more common response.
It lets my side/head split the water equally to both sides of my body, so that one side doesn't get too cold. I swap directions every once in a while to make sure it's nice and even, and also spend a lot of time facing different (and more normal) directions to wash my hair, etc. I guess I'm weird... The only problem's I've had is accidentally getting water in my ear if I tilt it the wrong way.


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