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by **Ortus** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:50 am UTC

I have a shirt and a few sweatshirts from a clothing company called Jiberish that I friggen' love. Expensive, but one of the sweatshirts and the shirt was a gift; bonus, I can wear the sweatshirts skiing when the weather permits xD

I usually don't wear collared shirts of any variety because they restrict the movement through my shoulders, and for the same reason (movement restriction) I don't usually wear jeans. I have a hard time differentiating my outfits because of that - the only time I get to have fun is when I'm going to some formal event where doing back fulls off of tables is considered bad form. Although, at one point in the not terribly distant past, I would wear a short sleeve collared t-shirt over a t-shirt and leave the collared one unbuttoned. I am originally from Florida, but daaaaamn. I'd like to think that, when I'm not worried about engaging in shenanigans, I dress pretty well even if my bag of trickses is fairly limited considering the time spent not engaging in shenanigans.

Does anyone have any suggestions about dressing with movement in mind? I generally wear sweats and a t-shirt, which also counts as work attire, but I've always had trouble finding pants that aren't sweats that both: look good, and allow me to move (read: flip off shit). Also: shirts; most shirts I find are either not wide enough through the shoulders, or too wide through the chest/stomach area. I actually end up ripping chest and leg attire more often than I think should be the case.

by **Midnight** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:23 am UTC

Jeans must be broken in. I probably spend thirty seconds out of every day thinking "damn, these jeans could be stretchier" once the pair is well-used. I never notice problems with collared shirts but I guess I'm not a particularly physical person.

Like Dana Carvey, as Garth, said about underwear: "At first it's restrictive, but then it becomes a part of you."

by **bigglesworth** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:21 am UTC

Shirts aren't very restrictive of movement if they fit right, though maybe I too am not that active when wearing them. The usual suspect is the shoulders, if the shoulders don't fit right then that makes the neck feel wrong, and the back will be wrong too...

by **OBrien** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:18 pm UTC

I usually don't button up my collar for the simple reason that I have a medium build with an extra-large neck, and not mant shirt makers cater for that. I mostly have to settle for shirts that are far too baggy on me but I can fully button up or shirts that fit my body like a glove but I'd be restricting blood-flow if I buttoned all the way. Although I do have one FCUK shirt that fits both body and nexk like a glove. And it has an Oxford collar too, which always looks better on people with thick necks.

by **poxic** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:31 am UTC

When you gets more moneys you can has custom-made shirt, or get the baggy ones taken in a bit by a tailor. Costs a bit but you will look awesomer.

by **OBrien** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:36 am UTC

poxic wrote:When you gets more moneys

Yeah, I know. Stupid being a skint student...

by **Jorpho** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:05 pm UTC

I have no doubt your boyfriend will be that much more appreciative of your efforts to enhance his wardrobe knowing that you have the backing of several strangers on a webcomic's message board.

I think he'd probably like to wear whatever he wants to wear.

by **Jacque** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:17 am UTC

dollid wrote:My boyfriend has not really bought new clothes in the three years I have been dating him. I love shopping and so I want to take him shopping and buy him some new outfits to replace the ones that are getting old and worn out. He doesn't know much about fashion and buying clothes (most of his clothes are gifts from family and friends) and I don't know much beyond woman's Fashion. Does anyone have any suggestions about whats "in" or any "must haves" in mens fashion? Or any stores that guys like?

Well, how old is he? What general area does he live in (I'm assuming the US)? What kind of guy is he? Outdoorsy? Active? Laid back? Gamer? Artist? Business focused?

Lot of factors to consider, and you don't want him to dress in a way that doesn't mesh with his personality.

by **Izawwlgood** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:51 am UTC

I just got fitted for a tux for an upcoming wedding, and sent off my measurements to the groomsman in charge of a different wedding's tux purchasing. I'm pumped, I look fucking sly in what I tried on today, and the hankie matches my girlfriends slinky dress.

So question: Do you guys know off hand your measurements for formal wear? Because there are like, 6 measurements, and I'm just wondering if anyone on the boards is in a position where they get stuff tailored frequently enough to have it all memorized

by **Dark567** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:34 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:So question: Do you guys know off hand your measurements for formal wear? Because there are like, 6 measurements, and I'm just wondering if anyone on the boards is in a position where they get stuff tailored frequently enough to have it all memorized

Not memorized, but I have had at least 3 things tailored in the last year, so I have a 14 measurement set saved for easy reference.

by **Jacque** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:26 am UTC

Yeah, I know my measurements pretty well at the moment as well. Just got married like, three days ago, and lets just say, my duds were killin' it.

by **Izawwlgood** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:37 am UTC

Ah, well, grats! I know some dudes who have atypical body sizes and need to get everything tailored, which I think I might mildly require as well; do you fall into the category?

by **Dark567** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:05 pm UTC

Honestly the money spent on a mild amount of tailoring is almost worth it for any guy. A $250 dollar suit and $50 for tailoring is almost always better than a $300 dollar suit. The most important aspect of formal clothing is its fit, everything else is secondary.

by **AvatarIII** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:22 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I just got fitted for a tux for an upcoming wedding, and sent off my measurements to the groomsman in charge of a different wedding's tux purchasing. I'm pumped, I look fucking sly in what I tried on today, and the hankie matches my girlfriends slinky dress.

So question: Do you guys know off hand your measurements for formal wear? Because there are like, 6 measurements, and I'm just wondering if anyone on the boards is in a position where they get stuff tailored frequently enough to have it all memorized

i'm pretty confident about my next, chest and waist, not a clue about my arm or inside leg, and i'm not even sure what the 6th measurement is, height?

by **Dark567** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:30 pm UTC

AvatarIII wrote:i'm pretty confident about my next, chest and waist, not a clue about my arm or inside leg, and i'm not even sure what the 6th measurement is, height?

My list is:

Torso length(So you know how long the jacket should be)
Chest circumference
Hips circumference
Stomach circumference
Shoulder width
Arm length
Bicep circumference
Wrist circumference
Leg length(From waist to foot)
Crotch length(This is measured by placing the tape measure on where your belt would sit behind you, pulling the tape measure through your legs and measuring at where your belt is in front of you)
Waist circumference
Thigh circumference
Knee circumference
Ankle circumference

by **AvatarIII** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:36 pm UTC

Dark567 wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:i'm pretty confident about my next, chest and waist, not a clue about my arm or inside leg, and i'm not even sure what the 6th measurement is, height?

My list is:

Torso length(So you know how long the jacket should be)
Chest circumference
Hips circumference
Stomach circumference
Shoulder width
Arm length
Bicep circumference
Wrist circumference
Leg length(From waist to foot)
Crotch length(This is measured by placing the tape measure on where your belt would sit behind you, pulling the tape measure through your legs and measuring at where your belt is in front of you)
Waist circumference
Thigh circumference
Knee circumference
Ankle circumference

what do you get tailored for? a skin tight leather gimp suit?

by **Dark567** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:51 pm UTC

AvatarIII wrote:what do you get tailored for? a skin tight leather gimp suit?

Bespoke suits and tuxes. If your getting a bespoke suit they will take a large set of measurements. When renting, they just take an off the shelf suit, and alter it to your measurements. This limits what they can do because not every piece of a suit is alterable(most notably the shoulders), so they won't measure you for those things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bespoke

by **AvatarIII** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:55 pm UTC

Dark567 wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:what do you get tailored for? a skin tight leather gimp suit?

Bespoke suits and tuxes. If your getting a custom suit from scratch they will take a large set of measurements. When renting, they just take an off the shelf suit, and alter it to your measurements. This limits what they can do because not every piece of a suit is alterable(most notably the shoulders), so they won't measure you for those things.

ah fair enough, i've never had enough money, or a requirement to have a tailored suit beyond a rental, so forgive my ignorance,
some of the types of measuremt do seem a little extreme/obscure though, but i'm sure they are worth it for a perfectly fitting suit.
interesting though that leg measurement as you listed it is waist to foot, and not inside leg, (crotch to floor)

by **Jacque** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:48 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Ah, well, grats! I know some dudes who have atypical body sizes and need to get everything tailored, which I think I might mildly require as well; do you fall into the category?

I tend to have a nigh perfect build for off the shelf wear in what seems to be the "slim" or "tailored-fit" sizes that seem to be fairly popular at the moment. If I buy right then I generally never have to get anything tailored. The hard part for me is just finding my correct size when it comes to dress shirts/pants or anything from a brand I don't have any experience with already.

by **Beardhammer** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:26 am UTC

My sense of fashion is whatever fits and is on the bargain rack. Every piece of clothing I own and wear is at least six months old. You could take my entire wardrobe and fit it into a backpack, if you rolled everything up.

It gets to the point where I'd rather do some sewing and repairwork than go out to buy a new pair of pants or a new shirt. I hate shopping. It seems no manufacturer makes the same size pants as another manufacturer.

It'd be great if I could walk into a store, grab a pair of pants with the right waist and length measurements, and know they will fit fine without even having to try them on. Assuming they're the same style as pants that fit well.

by **bigglesworth** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:24 pm UTC

Question: when is it appropriate to wear club-branded (or similar) polo shirts? I have some polo shirts from my hiking and fencing clubs but on occasions when I'd wear a polo shirt I have nicer and more formal ones and occasions when I'm just slumming around T-shirts are comfier. Should I just wear them to the clubs in question?

by **Jacque** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:15 pm UTC

It's appropriate whenever it's a time that it's not not appropriate. That is, without seeing the garments in question, I'd say you're perfectly fine wearing them about in your day to day activities. Sure, if you need something more formal or dressy, skip the club polos.

Just think of them as fancier tshirts.

by **Izawwlgood** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:15 pm UTC

I officially love vests. I think they are the sveltest thing since svelt svelted.

by **Ortus** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:50 pm UTC

I agree, on the vests. Vests are awesome.

by **Jorpho** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:07 am UTC

Beardhammer wrote:It'd be great if I could walk into a store, grab a pair of pants with the right waist and length measurements, and know they will fit fine without even having to try them on. Assuming they're the same style as pants that fit well.

I do that with Levis all the time. Of course, they have been known to abruptly discontinue particular styles on occasion.

by **bam** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:09 pm UTC

I love the "clean-looking" look...you know, jeans or pants that aren't tight but definitely aren't baggy or loose-fitting, and the same for the shirt, with decent looking shoes (personally, I like vans or chucks). I love American Eagle jeans and plain crewneck t-shirts.

For the fancier events, I'm lucky and get to wear these (minus the beard and glasses of course):

I'm looking forward to my wedding because I already know I'll look super fly.

by **Bearboy** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:50 am UTC

My wardrobe at the moment is lacking in pants(For those playing at home I'm typing with pants on, just have little variation).

Being an Aus school student large chunk of time is spent in school shorts/pants, but just having winter holidays and in 3 months time will no longer be in school I really need to get some pants. I've got 2 identical pairs of epic baggy cargo pants, a pair of jeans (which the zipper broke and crotch tore in the last week) and 2 pairs of cargo shorts (Also a pair of hand made velcro stripper pants I made for a costume party). Not much and nothing really fancy.

In the shirt department I'm all set, I've got something close to 40 shirts from various concerts, Scout, Surf Club and Rugby events and one nice looking long sleeve black shirt(which is the remnants of when I went to a halloween party as an SS officer, not the same one as above). I've got 2 complete sets of Australian military camoflague clothing, and an Aus Navy jacket and trenchcoat for cool weather but no real fancy jacket.

So basically I need pants and a nice, non military jacket to fill out my wardrobe

by **ArgonV** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:56 am UTC

Bearboy wrote: one nice looking long sleeve black shirt(which is the remnants of when I went to a halloween party as an SS officer, not the same one as above).

Eh.. SS officer? As in WWII SS?

by **Beardhammer** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:37 am UTC

ArgonV wrote:
Bearboy wrote: one nice looking long sleeve black shirt(which is the remnants of when I went to a halloween party as an SS officer, not the same one as above).

Eh.. SS officer? As in WWII SS?

You'd assume so. Why?

by **Bearboy** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:32 am UTC

Yeah the evil ones. The shirt itself has a few logoes and stuff, not just full black. And I did it cause the party host told me i couldn't go as a brownshirt. Sure showed him... What sucked was most people thought cop or detective or buisness man when I had big SS runes on my collar(and rank slides, divisonal and regimental markings on shoulders and arms). And when I told them, they had no clue what I was talking about...

by **Beardhammer** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:01 am UTC

Bearboy wrote:Yeah the evil ones. The shirt itself has a few logoes and stuff, not just full black. And I did it cause the party host told me i couldn't go as a brownshirt. Sure showed him... What sucked was most people thought cop or detective or buisness man when I had big SS runes on my collar(and rank slides, divisonal and regimental markings on shoulders and arms). And when I told them, they had no clue what I was talking about...

No cause to be alarmed. You're just in from the Auschwitz office, there to do a quick inspection to ensure the vermin are all taken care of.

Auschwitz might be too strong of a hint, though. Still, people that don't know what the SS symbol on a jet black uniform means?

by **SlyReaper** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:22 am UTC

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't those uniforms have skull-shaped insignia on the caps? You'd think that alone would be a bit of a giveaway that this is a bad-guy costume.

by **Bearboy** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:07 am UTC

I didn't have a hat, too much effort, i did have bleached blonde hair gel back in a way I've seen some germans protrayed.

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:41 am UTC

Bearboy wrote:Yeah the evil ones. The shirt itself has a few logoes and stuff, not just full black. And I did it cause the party host told me i couldn't go as a brownshirt. Sure showed him... What sucked was most people thought cop or detective or buisness man when I had big SS runes on my collar(and rank slides, divisonal and regimental markings on shoulders and arms). And when I told them, they had no clue what I was talking about...

Wow, that's pretty asshole of you.

by **SlyReaper** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:50 am UTC

Why does that make him an asshole? Seems like a perfectly valid halloween costume to me. I mean, so long as it's actually recognisable. :lol:

by **Obby** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:51 am UTC

Being very tall (6'5") with long arms and a long torso, I have a very hard time finding shirts at most stores that fit me properly. If they're the proper length for my torso and arms, they also tend to be made for someone who is fat (which I'm not) so the shirt looks entirely too big. If I buy for the proper tightness, then the shirt is too short on the torso and sleeves. Le sigh. I can never find good shirts.

Jeans, however, I'm more lucky with. Being 34-36, it's hard to find the right size sometimes, but Gap and Old Navy typically has some good jeans that fit me great (once they've been broken in a little).

I've been interested in getting some raw denim jeans, as well. Does anyone have any experience with these to comment? They can be expensive, but I've heard wonderful things from folks on another forum site I visit. My only problem is a lot of those folks are hipsters, so their opinions on anything not mainstream will, of course, be much higher than average.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denim#Dry_denim

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:18 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:Why does that make him an asshole? Seems like a perfectly valid halloween costume to me. I mean, so long as it's actually recognisable.

I've never found dressing as an SS guard without any prompting to be something under the definition of perfectly valid. Are you making a student film and need a couple SS guards? Absolutely, then it's cool. Otherwise, I'd say it's in the same category as going to a Halloween party dressed as any manner of offensive costumes for the guests. Black face when there are black people, child soldier when there are refuges, etc. It's not edgy, or funny, it's tasteless and rude.

by **AvatarIII** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:59 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:Why does that make him an asshole? Seems like a perfectly valid halloween costume to me. I mean, so long as it's actually recognisable.

I've never found dressing as an SS guard without any prompting to be something under the definition of perfectly valid. Are you making a student film and need a couple SS guards? Absolutely, then it's cool. Otherwise, I'd say it's in the same category as going to a Halloween party dressed as any manner of offensive costumes for the guests. Black face when there are black people, child soldier when there are refuges, etc. It's not edgy, or funny, it's tasteless and rude.

tasteless yes, asshole no, in my opinion, now if he was royalty.....

Spoiler:

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:30 pm UTC

No, I'd still say asshole. That was incredibly dumb of Harry to do as well. It's the equivalent of wearing white robes and a pointy wizard hat in public.

by **RoadieRich** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:35 pm UTC

What's wrong with my Gandalf costume?

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