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Postby martin878 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:13 pm UTC

Newb question, but for once I haven't been able to Google it on account of it being such a common word. What is the origin and meaning of the statement "This." in comments on these fora?

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Re: This.

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:25 pm UTC

Origin:Beats me. I doubt it originated here, though.

Meaning:"This thing I am quoting/replying to; I agree and don't really have anything to add, I just want to demonstrate that the previous speaker is not the only one with that opinion."

Lemme know when you start wondering why, in more informal threads, people reply with the single word of "Ponies" Hint:it means the same as This, it just has a story behind it.
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Re: This.

Postby Zarq » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:26 pm UTC

That that person completely agrees with what (s)he has quoted.
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Re: This.

Postby Vapour » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:27 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Origin:Beats me. I doubt it originated here, though.

Meaning:"This thing I am quoting/replying to; I agree and don't really have anything to add, I just want to demonstrate that the previous speaker is not the only one with that opinion.



This.


See what I did there?

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Re: This.

Postby Stacy S. » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:27 pm UTC

Zarq wrote:That that person completely agrees with what (s)he has quoted.


This.

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Re: This.

Postby martin878 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:31 pm UTC

Ah so. I wouldn't be surprised if the origin is from object oriented programming where an object refers to itself as 'this'.

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Re: This.

Postby SurgicalSteel » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:16 pm UTC

Vapour wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:Origin:Beats me. I doubt it originated here, though.

Meaning:"This thing I am quoting/replying to; I agree and don't really have anything to add, I just want to demonstrate that the previous speaker is not the only one with that opinion.



This.
Ponies are awesome, I just love them so much!

"This" is probably shorthand for "this things I believe." In programming "this" is more of a first-person word, while in English it's more of a third-person word, which since you are agreeing with another person's statement and not your own I think works better as etymology.
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Re: This.

Postby the tree » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:28 pm UTC

It's really not specific to these fora, I've seen it generally across the Internet. Lots of forum software has a feature that every post must contain at least some characters, and those within quote tags don't count so things like "this", "QFT" or "^^^^" below a quote allow for really concise agreement.
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EtymOnline wrote:O.E. þis, neuter demonstrative pronoun and adj. (masc. þes, fem. þeos), probably from a North Sea Gmc. pronoun formed by combining the base *þa- (see that) with -s, which is probably identical with O.E. se "the" (representing here "a specific thing"), but it may be O.E. seo, imperative of see (v.) "to behold." Cf. O.S. these, O.N. þessi, Du. deze, O.Fris. this, O.H.G. deser, Ger. dieser. Once fully inflected, with 10 distinct forms (see table below); the oblique cases and other genders gradually fell away by 15c. The O.E. plural was þæs (nom. and acc.), which in Northern M.E. became thas, and in Midlands and Southern England became thos. The Southern form began to be used late 13c. as the plural of that (replacing M.E. tho, from O.E. þa) and acquired an -e (apparently from the influence of M.E. adj. plurals in -e; cf. alle from all, summe from sum "some"), emerging early 14c. as modern those. About 1175 thes (probably a variant of O.E. þæs) began to be used as the plural of this, and by 1200 it had taken the form these, the final -e acquired via the same mechanism that gave one to those.

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Re: This.

Postby Thirty-one » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:43 pm UTC

I've always seen it as a short form for
"This sums up my views on the topic" or
"This post nailed it/wins the thread".

I'd be surprised if its origin was any more exciting than that.
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Re: This.

Postby Vapour » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:58 pm UTC

Thirty-one wrote:"This post nailed it/wins the thread".


I usually see that portrayed as

/thread

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Re: This.

Postby Zarq » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:13 pm UTC

Vapour wrote:
Thirty-one wrote:"This post nailed it/wins the thread".


I usually see that portrayed as

/thread


This.
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Re: This.

Postby Vapour » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:33 pm UTC

Zarq wrote:
Vapour wrote:
Thirty-one wrote:"This post nailed it/wins the thread".


I usually see that portrayed as

/thread


This.


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Re: This.

Postby Kulantan » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:34 pm UTC

Thirty-one wrote:I'd be surprised if its origin was any more exciting than that.

Well you'd be wrong. Back in 1976 the ICUISAI (International Council for the Usage, Implementation and Standardisation of Acronyms and Initialisms) got together for their annual meeting. The members at that meeting considered the lack of acronyms for the increasingly popular electronic games that were on the rise, a home version of the immortal Pong having been released the previous year. HE HGDH Rodger E. Vellington* the Ninth Duke of Uppton-under-Ywe and Permanent Representative to the ICUISAI suggested that a name for winning such a game with utter certainty and aplomb should be coined and initalised. To this end he suggested that the Council add to the DOEIA (Definitive and Official Encyclopaedia of Initialisms and Acronyms) the term THIS, standing for The Highest Imaginable Score. This term enjoyed some popularity among the arcade gaming community but achieved greatest use when the Internet took up the term in 1999. However as with much of the emergent lexicon of the internet it has been bastardised over time. While initially only used in reference to overwhelming victory in an argument or game it quickly came also to mean agreement as people lost sight of the origins of the acronym (and sometimes even forgetting to capitalise it properly). For examples of phrases with similar origins just look at WIN and BLOG.

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Re: This.

Postby philsov » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:32 pm UTC

Relevant comic from Jeph Jacques:

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Re: This.

Postby Antimony-120 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:05 pm UTC

While the exact meaning has been explained (It means I agree with this post, or this post is the correct answer) I will state that it's use is not internet related, and I suspect it's origin isn't either.

Specifically, I suspect it's origin is from real life where pointing and saying "that" is a common variant of saying "What they said" when a good argument is made. I suspect this is the origin simply because I've seen it said by people who are not particularly prone to browsing the internet and are considerably older (i.e., my grandparents generation). Also while I cannot at the moment recall any instnaces of "that" being used in media from before 1990, I most certainly have seen "what they said" in media from at least the 70's (in particular I know it was said in a couple episodes of M*A*S*H). Given that the meaning is exactly the same, I would say it's simply a variant that has become more common recently, particularly on the internet. And the reason is that while in real life it is impossible to hold up someone's quote and say "this" (instead the pointing and "what s/he said" or "that"), on the internet it changed from the object "that" to the object "this".
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Re: This.

Postby SomeFloridaKid » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:05 am UTC

My guess of its origin?
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Re: This.

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:23 am UTC

No.
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Re: This.

Postby phlip » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:54 am UTC

This.

But yes, I admit I wouldn't've been able to find that if I didn't already know it existed...

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Re: This.

Postby TheGrammarBolshevik » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:19 am UTC

Yeah, "this" is an incredibly common English word, and would not have needed intermediaries like 4chan or Java to make it into the Internet.
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Re: This.

Postby nehpest » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:27 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Origin:Beats me. I doubt it originated here, though.

Meaning:"This thing I am quoting/replying to; I agree and don't really have anything to add, I just want to demonstrate that the previous speaker is not the only one with that opinion."

Lemme know when you start wondering why, in more informal threads, people reply with the single word of "Ponies" Hint:it means the same as This, it just has a story behind it.


Story time prz?
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Re: This.

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:00 am UTC

Mod Madness, two years ago. A moderator changed QFT (the shortened form of Quoted For Truth, an alternate version of This) to something like "Ponies? Ponies! I like ponies! Ponies!"

The people who were discussing Quantum Field Theory laughed and laughed and laughed.

Fast forward a bit, and on occasion you'll catch someone saying Ponies instead of This, as a shortened form of the entire Ponies? Ponies! thing. That too modified itself to a filthier version "I fucking love ponies!" which, in turn, became even filthier "I love fucking ponies!"

There's also the burning cheese thing, which is a Dr. Tran - Roybertito's reference. lol was filtered to ¡This Cheese is burning me! So now sometimes people reference how cheese is burning them.

And many more. Which reminds me... Mod Madness is just around the corner. I think this year we'll keep it low key. Just mail a box of bees to everyone.
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Re: This.

Postby nehpest » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:04 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:That too modified itself to a filthier version "I fucking love ponies!" which, in turn, became even filthier "I love fucking ponies!"


That was an excellent story. I can now go to sleep without fear of the monsters under the bed.
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Re: This.

Postby Internetmeme » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:09 am UTC

nehpest wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:That too modified itself to a filthier version "I fucking love ponies!" which, in turn, became even filthier "I love fucking ponies!"


That was an excellent story. I can now go to sleep without fear of the monsters under the bed.


Also, I claim credit for starting the tradition of Mod Madness on these parts!
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Re: This.

Postby phlip » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:18 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:something like "Ponies? Ponies! I like ponies! Ponies!"

"PONIES! Ponies, ponies, ponies!1! I like Ponies!"

Also: I'm pretty sure that the QFT and LOL filters didn't come from Mod Madness, they were just someone (Belial?) messing around of their own accord.

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Re: This.

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:24 am UTC

I know you're right about LOL, but.. I was thinking qft was a mod madness thing. But I may be mistaken.
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Re: This.

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:28 am UTC

I don't know about QFT, but from what I remember LOL occurred outside of Mod Madness.
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Postby phlip » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:29 am UTC

IIRC, the burning cheese and the ponies showed up at the same time... then later, ponies was replaced with "Quantum Field Theory", and then eventually both were removed (at different times).

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Re: This.

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:31 am UTC

Huh. Well, color me corrected then.
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Re: This.

Postby Zohar » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:09 am UTC

Oooh bees!
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Re: This.

Postby Antimony-120 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:49 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Huh. Well, color me corrected then.


You mean bluish like the rest of us plebs instead of that purple?

Waitaminute, blue? We're SMURFS?!
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Re: This.

Postby Bakemaster » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:57 am UTC

I seem to recall ponies being one of hermaj's contributions to the madness.

Does that ring a bell with anyone else?
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Re: This.

Postby phlip » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:18 am UTC

The lol and qft filters started at around 4 Dec 2008, possibly slightly earlier. This was before the first Mod Madness, which was in early 2009.

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