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Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:46 pm UTC
by thicknavyrain
C-c-c-combo breaker!

No I haven't been. I've been called smart, hard-working and clever but never genius. It's probably because I hang around with people who are all great at what they do so they know being good at something is usually hard work and not some innate ability. In fact, even when I do really well on, say, maths and physics papers, people who aren't doing this subject say "wow, you must be really good" as opposed to genius but then, there are quite a few others in our year who do as well if not better so I guess that's that. And I like that because at least people aren't fooling themselves about what genius really is. And I occasionally fuck up too, at which points it's like "yeah, people do that".

However, when adults hear about the course I intend to do at the uni I got an offer from they assume I'm "smart" but then it's always followed by "I was awful at Physics", so it's not really being clever, just good at something different. I get the feeling I'm going to be even smaller fish in the even bigger pond from next year.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:46 pm UTC
by Sheikh al-Majaneen
Since it's actually my first name, I get called it all the time.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:15 pm UTC
by RainbowTwink
My fruitfly did. I hid some pixie dust in a lip gloss palette... You know the white stuff that goes on your nose/lips. It makes the world go back fast. But that was years ago.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:14 pm UTC
by Whelan
I got called a genius today, because I helped a girl in the year below me with some of her homework that I did almost exactly a year ago. That's just misuse there.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:03 am UTC
by Hope_
I wonder if there's higher instances of men being called 'a genius' than women. Hard to collect data on that, but this thread suggests there may be no bias either way as people of both genders have been posting that they have been called it.

Personally no, but then academically I am good at English type things but bad at maths/science things which are more typically related to genius (and I'm not smart enough anyway).

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:24 am UTC
by RainbowTwink
Hope_ wrote:I wonder if there's higher instances of men being called 'a genius' than women. Hard to collect data on that, but this thread suggests there may be no bias either way as people of both genders have been posting that they have been called it.

Personally no, but then academically I am good at English type things but bad at maths/science things which are more typically related to genius (and I'm not smart enough anyway).


I think intelligence is biological to a certain degree. This girl I know named Jaklyn(actually she's a ts) still retained her analytical nature. I think having an analytical nature + problem solving abilities equals intelligence. Hormones completely knocked out a lot of my complex reasoning ability, but I became more social and more socially smart.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:12 am UTC
by Hope_
RainbowTwink wrote:I think intelligence is biological to a certain degree. This girl I know named Jaklyn(actually she's a ts) still retained her analytical nature. I think having an analytical nature + problem solving abilities equals intelligence. Hormones completely knocked out a lot of my complex reasoning ability, but I became more social and more socially smart.

Sorry, what are you arguing here?

I was just wondering if it was a social construction to call men geniuses more often (we do live in quite a patriarchal society still) or if it makes no difference.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:48 am UTC
by Bakemaster
The best response this thread hasn't gotten yet: "Only in bed. Ladies."

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:57 pm UTC
by MiB24601
Yes but usually when the speaker is trying to soften the next the dissapointing statement that follows.

"You're clearly a genius but you just don't have enough experience doing this kind of work."
"You may be a genius but I don't think you have have the resources to make this project successful."
"You're a genius but I only have enough room in my budget to afford someone who is fairly bright."[1]

When someone calls me a genius, I know I'm leaving a meeting empty-handed.

[1] This was one of the strangest statements I had ever had someone say to me.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:41 pm UTC
by KrO2
I got called a genius several times after buying this.
It never seems to be defined whether being a nerd necessarily implies intelligence.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:50 am UTC
by elminster
Yes, but really it's a case of specialist knowledge most of the time; basically what demon-llama said.
I'm not a genius, but a lot of people seem to lack, what I consider to be, basic thought processes (I'm not sure how to correctly describe it really). This often leads to complete oversights into things which would otherwise be obvious, namely things which can only be found out by thinking in a particular way (Not necessarily lateral thinking, but that's clearly important).

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:57 am UTC
by tastelikecoke
I frequently get told about it.
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you know about all the names of the countries of the world?"
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you lose that very expensive SLR camera?"

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:21 pm UTC
by roband
tastelikecoke wrote:I frequently get told about it.
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you know about all the names of the countries of the world?"
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you lose that very expensive SLR camera?"


ALL the countries? That would make you pretty genius-like IMO

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:39 pm UTC
by Oregonaut
I was told that I "possessed a genius for close quarters engagements". I was also a "genius when it comes to cooking". I've never been called a genius, as in, "Wow, you're a genius". Because at best, I'm a fast learner, and intelligent. I'm just not Einstein, Grace Hopper level.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:42 pm UTC
by Angua
roband wrote:
tastelikecoke wrote:I frequently get told about it.
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you know about all the names of the countries of the world?"
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you lose that very expensive SLR camera?"


ALL the countries? That would make you pretty genius-like IMO
It is actually sadly easy to learn the names of all the countries, you just spend all day on sporcle. I know all the flags too.

This was all done while I should have been doing other things...

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:11 pm UTC
by Plasma Man
I do get called a genius fairly frequently, but mainly by my girlfriend. I know I'm not a genius, but I am intelligent and well-read, with a good memory. I'm a good person to ask about stuff, and I'm happy with that.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:39 pm UTC
by cjmcjmcjmcjm
People tell me how smart I am all the time and it's gone to my head and made me lazy.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:42 pm UTC
by roband
cjmcjmcjmcjm wrote:People tell me how smart I am all the time and it's gone to my head and made me lazy.

I'll say! Repeating the same 3 letters 4 times and calling it a username?

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:21 pm UTC
by grimex
when I was younger, classmates and relatives often called me a genius because I had a much more computer savvy compared to kids at my age.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:37 am UTC
by modularblues
A few times in middle school, but it's really overrated because it was at best cleverness within a narrow scope.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:51 am UTC
by AvatarIII
i guess i would have been as a baby, there was a story i heard many times from my mum that when i was seen by a doctor as a very toung child they thought there was some sort of clerical error on my birthdate because i was so advanced, but we're talking when i was mere months old here.

these days genius is thrown around a lot, and generally more for "common sense" reasons than intelligence reasons, so i am rarely called it, since i may be "bright" but my common sense is practically nil.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:53 pm UTC
by Toeofdoom
It's amusing that pretty much every post here says "people call me a genius, but I'm not, or I am lazy so it doesn't matter." Now to claim to be a genius requires you to be sure of yourself and also sure that you are more worthy of the term than everyone else* in the entire thread. It just isn't cool to say you're smart and doing so anyway means you have to live up to it. :|

People have called me a genius in the past. Since starting university and switching focus from what I knew I was very good at, I haven't stood out.

*Not everyone has explicitly denied being a genius but they still make such a claim more difficult in various ways.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:58 pm UTC
by Menacing Spike
Toeofdoom wrote:It's amusing that pretty much every post here says "people call me a genius, but I'm not, or I am lazy so it doesn't matter." Now to claim to be a genius requires you to be sure of yourself and also sure that you are more worthy of the term than everyone else* in the entire thread. It just isn't cool to say you're smart and doing so anyway means you have to live up to it. :|


It's not a question of "being cool".
It's just that the more intelligent you become, the more you are aware of your shortcomings.
Frankly, I am very smart in the "processing power" sense. But intelligence is much more than that; and I am smart enough to realize that I downright suck aside from speed.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:22 pm UTC
by MiB24601
Toeofdoom wrote:It's amusing that pretty much every post here says "people call me a genius, but I'm not, or I am lazy so it doesn't matter." Now to claim to be a genius requires you to be sure of yourself and also sure that you are more worthy of the term than everyone else* in the entire thread. It just isn't cool to say you're smart and doing so anyway means you have to live up to it. :|


The thread isn't about posters claiming to be a genius, it's about posters having been called a genius by another person.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:40 pm UTC
by Toeofdoom
Menacing Spike wrote:It's not a question of "being cool".
It's just that the more intelligent you become, the more you are aware of your shortcomings.
Frankly, I am very smart in the "processing power" sense. But intelligence is much more than that; and I am smart enough to realize that I downright suck aside from speed.
I think there's an element of social stuff to it, whether it affects you or not. The Dunning-Kruger effect would be part of it too.
MiB24601 wrote:The thread isn't about posters claiming to be a genius, it's about posters having been called a genius by another person.
Yes and the answer has continually been along the lines of "Yes, but it was unwarranted/intelligence is relative." It feels like people are going out of their way to point out whoever called them a genius was wrong and they aren't that smart. "Genius" isn't a solidly defined term so surely some of those people could have been right using a "looser" definition of genius?

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:57 pm UTC
by MiB24601
MiB24601 wrote:The thread isn't about posters claiming to be a genius, it's about posters having been called a genius by another person.

Toeofdoom wrote:Yes and the answer has continually been along the lines of "Yes, but it was unwarranted/intelligence is relative." It feels like people are going out of their way to point out whoever called them a genius was wrong and they aren't that smart. "Genius" isn't a solidly defined term so surely some of those people could have been right using a "looser" definition of genius?


Well, if we follow your previous statement[1], it seems that if the poster isn't sure that they are a genius and that is why they rebuke the appellation when others try to apply it to them, then the poster still wouldn't be a genius, no matter how loosely the word is defined.

[1]
Toeofdoom wrote:Now to claim to be a genius requires you to be sure of yourself and also sure that you are more worthy of the term than everyone else* in the entire thread.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:58 pm UTC
by Kewangji
I've been called a genius twice since this thread started.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:08 pm UTC
by Oregonaut
Kewangji wrote:I've been called a genius twice since this thread started.

You're an idiot.

There, now I've balanced it out some. Wouldn't want your pepper exploding.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:12 pm UTC
by Kewangji
I accept this humbling.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:44 pm UTC
by Midnight
Plasma Man wrote:I do get called a genius fairly frequently, but mainly by my girlfriend. I know I'm not a genius, but I am intelligent and well-read, with a good memory. I'm a good person to ask about stuff, and I'm happy with that.

yeah, for me any assumptions of "genius" are pretty much just reactions to "pretty awesome information retention", a trait I get from my father. I'll talk about taking a flashlight camping and he'll go "actually, last week I found a tiny LED flashlight which I put on... uh, I think it was the middle shelf of the wooden cabinet on the right side of the garage."
And, indeed, it was there.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:56 am UTC
by Kurushimi
Kewangji wrote:I accept this humbling.


You're an utter moron.

Sorry, I just thought I'd balance it more.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:23 am UTC
by Mumpy
But now you've unbalanced it! Kewangji, No-one but no-one can write a story like you.

There, now it's all Ambiguous

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:32 am UTC
by Save Point
In a "Way to walk into the screen door, genius" kind of way, yes.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:45 am UTC
by SecondTalon
roband wrote:
tastelikecoke wrote:I frequently get told about it.
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you know about all the names of the countries of the world?"
"Holy shit tastelikecoke you're a genius! How did you lose that very expensive SLR camera?"


ALL the countries? That would make you pretty genius-like IMO

There are currently 193 recognized countries, and 10 sovereign states.

For comparison, there are currently 646 Pokemon, and a fuckload of kids who know the names of every goddamn one.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:03 am UTC
by Deva
SecondTalon wrote:There are currently 193 recognized countries, and 10 sovereign states.

For comparison, there are currently 646 Pokemon, and a fuckload of kids who know the names of every goddamn one.

Solution? Country Pokemon. Attacks your Hounduras with my Poland’s Machinery Equipment (steel based attack)! Could dole out type based upon commerce and general personality. Can give Flying or Water type to countries with high tourism. Should have aggressive countries be Fighting type. Might have disputes on Dark type and Psychic type, however.

Hrm...would Atlantis be Ghost/Water?

May make kids believe that war was just a trainer battle, though.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:12 am UTC
by Midnight
SecondTalon wrote:
For comparison, there are currently 646 Pokemon, and a fuckload of kids who know the names of every goddamn one.

Find one that caught 'em all, so to speak. That's pretty impressive.
I could name all 151 (not in order, though. Jesus.) and plenty from G/S/C and a few from R/S/E. But nothin' beyond that.

bulbasaur, ivysaur, venusaur, squirtle, wartortle, blastoise, charmander, charmeleon, charizard, caterpie, metapod, butterfree, weedle, kakuna, beedril, ratata, raticate...

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:52 am UTC
by burlhammonds
None has ever called me genius yet :( I guess I better start reading Wikipedia too :roll:

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:05 am UTC
by M.C.
Midnight wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:
For comparison, there are currently 646 Pokemon, and a fuckload of kids who know the names of every goddamn one.

Find one that caught 'em all, so to speak. That's pretty impressive.
I could name all 151 (not in order, though. Jesus.) and plenty from G/S/C and a few from R/S/E. But nothin' beyond that.

bulbasaur, ivysaur, venusaur, squirtle, wartortle, blastoise, charmander, charmeleon, charizard, caterpie, metapod, butterfree, weedle, kakuna, beedril, ratata, raticate...


Fucking Metapod. I spend days upon days and I could not get it to evolve. :evil:

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:11 am UTC
by Menacing Spike
M.C. wrote:Fucking Metapod. I spend days upon days and I could not get it to evolve. :evil:


There's a dude that completed the game with a magikarp. He grinded his way to tackle on metapods (with struggle).
Then he had to heal, and waste the splash pp again.

Days? You are small time.

Re: Has anyone ever called you a genius?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:34 pm UTC
by Brace
Yes. People have called me a genius since I was 8. Usually it was as a preface to an admonition though. IE, "You're a genius though, how can you be confused about your gender". Or "you're a genius, how could you not know *information which is only relevant to specific context that I lack exposure to* ".