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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Cammy » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:24 am UTC

poxic wrote:You just reminded me of a quote I read in a medical magazine some time ago.

From a doctor practising somewhere in Canada: "None of my patients under the age of 30 have any pubic hair. Isn't this a sign of the apocalypse or something?"


Haha. I have friends who get waxed even. I wonder when this became a trend.

Also, is there any amount of hair straightening that won't completely ruin your hair? My hair has changed completely since I started. I'm assuming you just have to let the damage grow out.
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Postby poxic » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:28 am UTC

I'd guess it was simultaneous with easy access to internet porn.

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Postby suffer-cait » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:08 am UTC

straightening hair=burning hair
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Postby mochafairy » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:28 am UTC

I will admit to using a flat iron on my hair. It really isn't the best thing for hair (but at the time it was the best way to keep it from turning into an Oh me yarm hair monster that consumed my head). To compensate, I ended up massively conditioning my hair and putting all sorts of thermal hair treatment stuff on it to at least somewhat protect it. I did notice that it wasn't as curly for a couple of weeks after I washed it if I did straighten my hair.
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Postby kellsbells » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:34 am UTC

I used to have my hair chemically straightened every few months, for around two years (13-15). It didn't break off or anything, but the effect was not that impressive and it damaged the hell out of my hair. After that, I dyed it a few times, and eventually, by a process of growing it out and cutting it much shorter than I once had, got it back to a reasonably normal (and obscenely curly) state. I've never been happier with it. :D Rock the curls, ladies.

(Although I have been known to flat-iron it on rare occasion. But RARE occasion only. It looks lovely, but it's not worth the long term damage. And besides, the curls are my trademark. They are me and I am them.)
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby dragon » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 am UTC

Cammy wrote:
poxic wrote:You just reminded me of a quote I read in a medical magazine some time ago.

From a doctor practising somewhere in Canada: "None of my patients under the age of 30 have any pubic hair. Isn't this a sign of the apocalypse or something?"
Haha. I have friends who get waxed even. I wonder when this became a trend.

Also, is there any amount of hair straightening that won't completely ruin your hair? My hair has changed completely since I started. I'm assuming you just have to let the damage grow out.
With the juxtaposition, my first thought was that you'd been straightening your pubic hair. Which is perfectly alright (if a little unusual), but probably not what you meant.

I'd append something useful and on-topic here, but no experience with straightening or curling. Effort/expense, potentially drastic and irreversible hair damage; ehh, I haven't been game to risk it.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Jessica » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:02 pm UTC

When I see the hair dresser, she straightens my hair there. Because I like what I look like with straight hair. but the rest of the time I just leave it, giving me wavy sort of poofy hair. It's... I'm getting used to the way my hair goes, so it's ok.

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Postby Cassi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:13 pm UTC

I straighten my hair somewhat regularly without any damage -- just use a good heat protection spray and don't go over each section more than twice and you should be fine really. I also use a good thick conditioner which is probably the main thing that keeps my hair in good shape whatever I do to it, though...
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Postby tin » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:56 pm UTC

Well, y'all know i'm an advocate of curls. I have lots of teeny, weeny ones.

It was chemically straightened (relaxed) for about 12 years, from the age of 6, before I decided it wasn't for me. It damaged my hair and scalp like nobodies business and my hair would just keep trying to revert back to it's natural state. And I used to heat straighten it when I discovered hair straighteners in my mid-teens. I can straighten my hair now, if I blow dry it straight (if the temperature on the hairdryer is set to the heat of the sun) and then use it straightens after that but frankly, I can't be arsed. Also, I like have a mane and not being afraid of rain in fear of ruining the straight-ness. If i get something which resembles a disposable income this year, i'm totally going to dye it light brown with blonde highlights. Or just blonde...

Regarding hair straighteners and permanent damage, it really depends on your hair type and the products you're using with it. I have a very fragile hair type which doesn't take heat and generally kicks up a fuss when straightened, so my hair would just snap off, even when using heat protection products.
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Postby Teapot » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:09 pm UTC

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As for hair straightening - I'm the same as Jessica. I usually get it straightened when it gets cut but I don't bother the rest of the time (maybe if I'm going out somewhere fancy I'll straighten it). In the mean time my hair does this thing where the hair at the back is pretty much straight and some of the hair at the front curls and everything else is wavy and in between.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Jessica » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:23 pm UTC

Teapot and I have similar hair. (also, regarding last post) surgery tomorrow.
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Postby abitha » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:46 pm UTC

Hope it goes well Jessica!

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Postby Delalyra » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:47 pm UTC

Good luck, Jess!

I've never straightened my semi-curly and uber-thick hair... but after I chopped most of it off, I discovered that apparently my hair grows naturally straight (ish) down to my shoulders. After that it gets curly, for whatever reason.
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Postby meridian » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:04 pm UTC

Since everyone is talking about straightening, I'd like to chime in that I am jealous of all your curls!

There are parts of my family tree that have super tight curls that they can't do anything with and I always wanted those. Unfortunately, I have masses and masses of really thin, straight hair that likes to cling to itself and knot up liberally, but alas, no real curls to speak of. I hate my hair; my hair is evil. *coughs*

Okay, back to your regularly scheduled conversation. I'll be over here in the corner with my pompoms cheering for curls. :)
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Postby doogly » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:27 pm UTC

I had a dream last night that my hair was curly. It was a little odd.
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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:30 pm UTC

Good luck, Jess :)

I have frizzy hair. It can be vaguely curly if I follow the curly girl method religiously. However, I haven't been bothered to do so for quite a while. I'll probably start again now I'm back at uni and work has vaguely calmed down. It also helps if I have it cut fairly short and layered and generally not be so heavy that it pulls my hair into half-assed curly frizz hair that eats things. I don't straighten my hair. People have straightened it but I've always wanted curly hair.
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Postby Sungura » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:47 pm UTC

My hair is just really really really thick and wavy. I wish it was more wavy. I'll wake up in the morning and see nice waves but as soon as I brush it to get tangles out the waves straighten some. :(
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Postby Spacemilk » Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:25 pm UTC

Best of luck, Jess! Make sure to let us know how you are doing afterward. :) (when you feel up to it, that is!)

Anyway, I have always wished I had curly hair. My hair is mostly straight and very fine, so it can't hold a curl for longer than an hour, no matter how much heat or product is used.

On a related note, does anyone have advice for good heat-protection sprays? I blow-dry my hair every day and then use a straightener to make it curl under just a bit and generally look good. But I haven't been using anything to protect my hair and it's getting to where I can tell. Any advice?
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Postby crowey » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:24 pm UTC

Good luck Jess! :mrgreen:

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Postby sophyturtle » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:33 pm UTC

Much luck Jess!
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Postby Jessica » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:35 pm UTC

Thanks :)
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Postby Cassi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:09 pm UTC

Spacemilk wrote:On a related note, does anyone have advice for good heat-protection sprays? I blow-dry my hair every day and then use a straightener to make it curl under just a bit and generally look good. But I haven't been using anything to protect my hair and it's getting to where I can tell. Any advice?

My female housemates and I all use the Tresseme heat protection spray, which I find works pretty well, smells decent, and doesn't cost a fortune. They both straighten their hair more than me, and their hair doesn't really show it either, which is probably a better indicator of how well it works, since I'm pretty lazy with mine even though I much prefer it straight!
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Postby doogly » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:31 pm UTC

Tresseme! I use their shampoo. It's most excellent.
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Postby Cassi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:34 pm UTC

I think one of my housemates uses their shampoo as well...I use Lush shampoo and conditioner, but they don't do heat protection spray, so I had to branch out a bit!
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Postby Rinsaikeru » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:45 pm UTC

I use Lush hair stuff too--New and Trichomania are my favoured shampoos and American Cream is my conditioner. Though I use Jungle or Veganese sometimes too. :D Mmmmm I like smelling like food.
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Postby Cassi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:48 pm UTC

I <3 American Cream -- I have the solid perfume of it too. I use Seanik solid shampoo, which I'm quite liking, though I am likely to try something new when this runs out...not as attached to it as I am to my conditioner.
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Postby kellsbells » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:02 pm UTC

I seriously need to invest in some Lush shampoo and conditioner. I've recently become infatuated with their cleansers and solid perfumes (Vanillary om nom nom), but had been all hesitant about shampoo that looks like a giant mint. Something to look into, I suspect.
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Postby Rinsaikeru » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:11 pm UTC

I use their solid shampoo and really love it. Here's why:

1. It physically cannot spill when I travel. (The girl at Lush told me it can also be used as body wash or to handwash clothes in a pinch)
2. It goes in a really cute tin.
3. Works great and smells great--just like a bar of soap for your hair.
4. Lasts ages--I had one from June-November. It costs 10 dollars approximately. Now I have short hair, YMMV.
5. Just keep it out of the shower stall so it doesn't get too gooey.
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Postby Sungura » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:24 pm UTC

Oooh Dave brought me American Cream. :D :D I <3 it I like the lavander shampoo though, I dunno, when I went when I was over there the gal at the store said it was the one for my hair. Daddy-O I think it is? Thing is, I have medium brownish hair. I'm not really sure why she said that was for me, but I like the smell and my hair seems to like it. My hair has been the most manageable since using it and the American Cream.

I did get two of their bar shampoo's when I was there, I really liked the one, um..it's yellow and had green leafy things in it sometimes (hated those, they would get stuck in my hair and tangle) but the scent was lovely. However, sadly, it got ooey gooey and disgusting. :( I never figured out how to stop that from happening.

I wish I had a lush here. Actually according to their website, there is one at a mall about 30 min away. However, I have never found it. And, even if I did, I checked prices. Holy crap. even with the bad exchange rate of dollars to pounds, it is STILL cheaper to buy in pounds. I'll just keep stocking up every trip that is taken between the two countries, I guess.
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Postby crowey » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:18 pm UTC

daddy-o makes hair a bit lighter and brighter, so it's good if you want to be a bit more blonde looking. the yellow one is godiva, nice and moisturising for your hair.
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I like the solid shampoos, but something in them makes my head itch, which is annoying. I use curlywurly shampoo and veganese conditioner, mmmmm coconut and lemon hair. :mrgreen:

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Postby Rinsaikeru » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:33 pm UTC

I keep my solid shampoo on the small side of the round tin and keep it out of the shower to dry between uses, keeps it solid and not gooey Sungura. That might help to goo problem.
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Postby suffer-cait » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:58 pm UTC

Sungura wrote:Oooh Dave brought me American Cream. :D :D I <3 it I like the lavander shampoo though, I dunno, when I went when I was over there the gal at the store said it was the one for my hair. Daddy-O I think it is? Thing is, I have medium brownish hair. I'm not really sure why she said that was for me, but I like the smell and my hair seems to like it. My hair has been the most manageable since using it and the American Cream.

I did get two of their bar shampoo's when I was there, I really liked the one, um..it's yellow and had green leafy things in it sometimes (hated those, they would get stuck in my hair and tangle) but the scent was lovely. However, sadly, it got ooey gooey and disgusting. :( I never figured out how to stop that from happening.

I wish I had a lush here. Actually according to their website, there is one at a mall about 30 min away. However, I have never found it. And, even if I did, I checked prices. Holy crap. even with the bad exchange rate of dollars to pounds, it is STILL cheaper to buy in pounds. I'll just keep stocking up every trip that is taken between the two countries, I guess.

i found it was cheap in euros (or atleast in germany) i wonder if it would be cheaper to have you buy me stuff and send it to me, or buy it here.
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Postby crowey » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:06 pm UTC

I live very close to a lush shop, I'm happy to go buy stuff and post it over if you like? Not sure what international shipping costs though...

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Postby Rinsaikeru » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:20 pm UTC

The shipping by weight would probably nullify the cost difference. I just bite the bullet and buy at home because I really like LUSH stuff.

They do frequently have sales and old stock giveaways though, if you get put on the newsletter it's possible to just deal shop and get everything you want stocked up at times of the year it's on sale. Recently they had a 3 for 1 soap promo--I got lots of soap.
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Postby Cassi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:06 pm UTC

For the record, I used my solid shampoo (different kind, can't remember which) to handwash some clothes last year, and it worked brilliantly, including for getting blood stains out of my sheets...I just tried it because it was the only thing I had to hand at the time that looked at all promising, but it turned out quite well! And I just keep mine in the tin, and as long as it's not been directly under the shower it's fine -- if it's a bit too wet I do what Rin said, though. Does last absolutely ages though...I think my current one's been going on 8 months at least and still has a way to go, but I only wash my hair a couple of times a week and it's on the shorter side, so YMMV.
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Postby crowey » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:10 pm UTC

you're probably right Rin, it's roughly £1.20 per 100g so 2 big bottles of shower gel/shampoo/conditioner would be an extra £13ish

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Postby Rinsaikeru » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:18 pm UTC

Oh here's my Lush tip or trick:

You can get a free round tin if you buy two solid shampoos: but they will also sub a square tin if you request it--much easier to get the shampoo in and out of.

Also, Trichomania shampoo is a pretty good shaving aid in a pinch.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Isotope_238 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:30 pm UTC

I shave with conditioner, when I actually bother. This winter, I'm not shaving at all. It's just too cold to wear anything thinner than heavy tights or knit leggings, so there's no reason to shave my legs.

Lush seems to be a popular brand in this thread. If only there was a store anywhere close to my house...

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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby suffer-cait » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:35 pm UTC

i'm also fond of L'Occitane
it cost cheaper here i think, 12:99 in either currancy i think.
but they make my fave conditioner
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Rinsaikeru » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:12 am UTC

I have some of their lotions that I quite like suffer-cait, nice stuff.
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