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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - All Things Women. Period.

Postby podbaydoor » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:07 pm UTC

I wouldn't feel as threatened, but I'd feel very awkward. It truly is all about context, body language, and approach.

Fess: I like being complimented by strangers. But that's emphasis on compliment, something that tells me it's sincere and isn't a veiled sexual demand. Catcalls fall under the latter category, and so I don't like them.
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Postby KestrelLowing » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:35 pm UTC

I think that saying if any female that's ever talked to by a male she doesn't know (I know this is hyperbole) is scary, she is overly paranoid.

(Note: I hardly ever have been complemented by a stranger and the only time I've been cat-called is when I was wearing baggy yellow and black striped overalls, a hockey jersey, and a pumpkin hat and carrying a trombone - and the people were just stupid drunk college kids. I still think it was unacceptable, but I know they weren't catcalling because of sexiness - rather the lack of :) So perhaps I have a different view than a very attractive women who gets these kind of things regularly)

But yes, how it's said is and where it's said very, very important. I occasionally will get complements on my hair because it's fairly long and typically a blonde-red (I dye it maybe twice a year to auburn (demi permanent) and my hair keeps a red tint that I love! And it even looks natural!). A (male) stranger once passed me in the mall and said "I really like your hair. It looks really nice." That wasn't creepy at all, although it was a bit odd but I think the oddness simply comes from American culture being fairly closed off.

Conversely, I was on a business trip the other day and out drinking with 5 colleges that I did not know. (Note, I am 21, they were all at least 40. I was the only female) At the end of the night, my bun was giving me a headache so I took it down. One of the men there said "You have really pretty hair" and I was uncomfortable. It was the same sentiment and given sincerely, but because (a LOT of) alcohol and work was involved, it was very awkward and not at all desirable.

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Postby bluebambue » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:52 pm UTC

KestrelLowing wrote:Conversely, I was on a business trip the other day and out drinking with 5 colleagues that I did not know.

FTFY?

I have much the same opinion as Kestrel.

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Postby bigglesworth » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:58 pm UTC

KestrelLowing wrote:That wasn't creepy at all, although it was a bit odd but I think the oddness simply comes from American culture being fairly closed off.
In my experience creepiness and oddness are on a spectrum, one that's pretty subjective. The connotations of these words change from place to place.
But as someone existing within a culture, you are aware of cultural norms. In England where I am, the norm is not to make comments to strangers apart from a simple greeting, if they are in difficulty, or if they are in danger. Violation of social norms is a betrayal of trust between the people involved. As soon as smaller social norms in interactions are broken, it gets you worrying about what deeper social norms might be broken.
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Postby GraphiteGirl » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:37 am UTC

I think there's a certain skill to complimenting strangers without skeeving them out. If you keep in mind that they may feel unnerved, and tailor your compliment based on trying to convey your sentiment in a way that's friendly, respectful and nonthreatening, it can be done. From strangers I've latelybeen getting, "That's a lovely shade of lipstick," and that is a VERY hard compliment for a guy to pull off without it sounding sexual, but I think it probably can be done.

A template: "Excuse me, sorry to bother you but I just wanted to let you know that your shade of lipstick is lovely." And then keep walking, with a friendly smile. I've used that format and it tends to go down well, but then, I'm a short, matronly looking young woman, and hence very nonthreatening - but I reckon a man could pull it off with the right tone and attitude.
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Postby Plasmic-Turtle » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:27 am UTC

WAY off-topic and perhaps not so appropriate for our little women's thread coffee group? But I'm in need of some advice on where to find enjoyable porn.
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Basically, I haven't seen much porn myself... in all honesty those sections of the interwebs frighten me a little with their bright colourfulness and pictures and things that make it seems like there might be millions of little sneaky computer viruses about. But I do think I would really enjoy it, if only I could find something more tailored for straight women. Any porn I've watched with partners I've found to generally have very unnattractive men, both physically and character-wise. They'll often be overly muscular, crazily tanned, make the most goddamn annoying noises and seem very sleazy. Not sexy, just the creepy kind of sleazy. Or terribly fake.

Where's the seduction? The older men? The nerdy men? The sweet school teacher rather than the creepy one? The men who look like Ivan Doroschuk in the Safety Dance video (*droool...*), but y'know, having some sex and stuff? An acquaintance of my older sister started up Filament Magazine - I think it's really good, it has interesting articles and a varied range of men that includes more typical looking guys, but the images can be a bit hit and miss (I'm not so into zombies and werewolves in a sexual way...) and well, it's erotica, not porn.

And yep, I've checked out the thread relating to comic 714, and a bunch of others besides, but most just seem to touch on the idea of there being some good women-oriented stuff out there rather than give many suggestions. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (even other erotica suggestions), and feel free to PM them if you don't feel it's Woman-thread/board appropriate or let me know if you don't think this post is appropriate. Asking anyone for porn advice is not something I've done before and wow, it feels weird...
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Postby Virtual_Aardvark » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:43 am UTC

For that matter if we have to do this by PM add me to the list.

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Personally I really like some of the stuff kink.com puts out. Unfortunately they're way out of my price range. I'd also suggest gay(male) porn. Sure, no women, but the men tend to be attractive and there's a lot less sleaze.
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Postby semicharmed » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:46 am UTC

Might want to check the Porn thread in LSR - there were a bunch of posts by other female posters about the same thing, and I think there were links offered up.

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Postby cephalopod9 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:03 am UTC

Angua wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12969922Here is a BBC opinion piece about complimenting women on the street.

I particularly liked this comment: "As men, we wouldn't take offence" - as men you are not subject to the same social harassment women are. I am not "taking offence", I am rationally weighing up the facts that a stranger has been watching me and feels that he can make a comment whilst I am trying to go about my day. I agree with Bailey and Jaye and am bemused by the negative ratings on some of the comments here.
Even better is that they start out with "Different people have different opinions about what is acceptable" because obviously we need to hear from "both sides" on this issue, and outright stating that you shouldn't hassle women or that there are reasons groups like Hollaback! exist would be some kind of controversial.

On compliments, I am so terrible at taking them. My mom gives me a hard time about it sometimes, but I'm not real keen on the whole convention of owing someone an enthusiastic response because they said something nice, even when it's not creepy, and genuinely a compliment.

I don't receive the creepy kind of compliment... guys don't talk to me that often, what I get a lot is:
"You have long hair"
...um, yes, my hair is very long. My mom tells me this is a compliment, and that I should say something nice back, but I don't like having that conversation even when it's an actual compliment.
"your hair is so pretty" thanks... "how long did it take to grow/are you thinking about donating/what's your secret?"

also: porn thread!
I've been half tempted to bump the topic for a while. I edited the last post on there to respond to Plasmic-Turtle.
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Postby Moo » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:34 am UTC

I made a decision a long time ago not to keep positive thoughts to myself, if I can cheer someone up for a minute. So if I think your glasses are cool, or your outfit rocks, unless you really look like you don't want to hear it, I'll tell you. And I've never had a negative response; I have been told I've made someone's day ... 50% of the time I do it?

I am pretty sure I don't look at all threatening, I'm a woman, and I am good at nonverbal cues and doing it with a shy, almost embarrassed smile (because I am) and then walking away.

To think that these things constitute "a violation of social norms" and "a betrayal of trust between the people" is the saddest thing I've heard in a long time.


None of this means I condone catcalling, by the way. And if someone was ever upset by my doing it I'd apologise and go, quickly.
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Postby bigglesworth » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:39 pm UTC

I could be wrong. That is simply my experience, what I have learned of the world.
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Postby semicharmed » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:22 pm UTC

Moo wrote:I made a decision a long time ago not to keep positive thoughts to myself, if I can cheer someone up for a minute. So if I think your glasses are cool, or your outfit rocks, unless you really look like you don't want to hear it, I'll tell you. And I've never had a negative response; I have been told I've made someone's day ... 50% of the time I do it?

I am pretty sure I don't look at all threatening, I'm a woman, and I am good at nonverbal cues and doing it with a shy, almost embarrassed smile (because I am) and then walking away.


I've never received a compliment from another woman that made me feel upset or creeped out. I've also never received a compliment from an unknown woman that was something like "your ass looks GREAT in those heels" or "nice boobs" whereas I've heard similar things from guys. (My friends can, for the most part,

"Your outfit rocks" or "I love you glasses" or "that scarf is amazing" are all, to me, compliments about my taste. Sometimes those comments can make my day, whomever they come from. Or even people asking "oh, that's an xkcd/woot shirt, right?" or other things along those lines, as long as it's not coupled with blatant staring at my chest. So Moo, coming from someone who is from NY (where talking to strangers just isn't done), you're probably make my day. Also, I imagine you doing it as your avatar, which definitely would.

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Postby Cathy » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:20 pm UTC

semicharmed wrote:I've never received a compliment from another woman that made me feel upset or creeped out. I've also never received a compliment from an unknown woman that was something like "your ass looks GREAT in those heels" or "nice boobs" whereas I've heard similar things from guys.


My emphasis added to note the absurdity of such a comment. I've been spending a lot more time on my college campus recently because I find that I get a lot more homework done if I'm at school. Funny that. :roll: I also find that there are a lot of idiots (male and female) who hang out in the library making these kinds of (the above bolded) comments, and think that they're the funniest people in the world.

I don't get why being crude is supposedly == funny. *sigh* It's annoying. Edited because suposely isn't a word.
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Postby Shivahn » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:33 pm UTC

Cathy wrote:I don't get why being crude is supposedly == funny. *sigh* It's annoying. Edited because suposely isn't a word.


There's a lot of crude humor that is funny, but plenty of boring people hear it and think it's funny entirely because it's crude, so being crude must be the hilariousest thing in the world. That's my hypothesis, anyway.

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Postby Artemisia » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:41 pm UTC

what moo says, I do too. I love a random little conversation, a brief moment of connecting with a stranger in public spaces, such as; standing in the cold shivering smoking a cigarette and catching the eye of a passer-by (male) and a brief connection moment of him smiling saying "oh isn't it freezing" or something along those lines. It doesn't actually matter what the conversation is; the body language oozes friendliness, understanding, and THAT can make my day. Or a brief conversation with a lady changing from high heels to flat shoes commenting that "that looked a lot more comfortable" and then convey that the heels are gorgeous, but agree that they are killing at the end of a long day.
I have complimented women (generally not men, admittedly) on random things like an awesome bag or shoes, or hair. Again, it's the body language that I feel makes the difference between creepy and non creepy.

Screaming "hey gorgeous" from a moving car does not constitute anything other than CREEPY. Same goes for builders whistling (not too long ago this happened when I was with a friend with whom I passed said builders, and she was flattered by their cheering - I was not, and I was a bit saddened by her lack of self confidence that she needs that kind of derogative attention).
I've received a compliment from someone who liked my bright purple suitcase. It creeped me the hell out - he lingered, said it a couple of times as if he thought I hadn't heard him, and just wouldn't leave me alone after. A compliment like that should be given in passing and does not require (au contraire I would even say) elaborating on the point and try to get into conversation after about "where you bought it" or something. I've contemplated asking women on tubes to ask something like that, but concluded most of the time that it was too inappropriate and decided against it. Had they caught me glancing at the item, sure, I would have smiled and said something, but if not, I prefer to err on the side of caution.
The thing with it is, it isn't SO overly important that I need to talk to them - whereas creeps seem to think that they cannot let an opportunity pass to be creepy, I guess...

It's a fine line, but with a bit of common sense and good judgement of the situation (bright daylight, lots of people around and again, connection such as eye contact are good variables) creepiness can be avoided easily.
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Postby podbaydoor » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:41 pm UTC

Moo wrote:I made a decision a long time ago not to keep positive thoughts to myself, if I can cheer someone up for a minute. So if I think your glasses are cool, or your outfit rocks, unless you really look like you don't want to hear it, I'll tell you. And I've never had a negative response; I have been told I've made someone's day ... 50% of the time I do it?

I am pretty sure I don't look at all threatening, I'm a woman, and I am good at nonverbal cues and doing it with a shy, almost embarrassed smile (because I am) and then walking away.

To think that these things constitute "a violation of social norms" and "a betrayal of trust between the people" is the saddest thing I've heard in a long time.


None of this means I condone catcalling, by the way. And if someone was ever upset by my doing it I'd apologise and go, quickly.

See, but you're doing it right. I would probably be cheered up if we had that kind of interaction somewhere in public. You're not violating a social norm, I think, at least for me and my culture - for me, violating a social norm is being creepy or demanding about it. Catcalling is not doing it right.
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Postby existential_squirrrel » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:34 pm UTC

sorry for a partially off the topic post, so I shall spoiler my mini- rant.

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I had a weird sort of panic attack yesterday while in class. I was sitting in the room and all of a sudden, I felt like a ghost sitting there. I know that my body was physically in class sitting and that I was alternating taking notes while rubbing at a spot on the inside of my left wrist. I think it had something to do with the fact that I had a small panic attack prior to class and was feeling triggered. I remember very little of what was said during class, all I know is that there was discussion about the textbook readings that were assigned. I'm kind of nervous to ask anybody from my class for a recap, because that would require a really bizarre explanation for my behaviour yesterday. Then it got to a point later in the evening where I felt like the world was spinning and I couldn't make myself stop spinning. I was feeling really jumpy, shaky, and my right hand was freezing cold, save for one warm spot. not a great state to be in while doing homework.


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I do not mind compliments from strangers, but if you are just going to stare at me from outside a building without actually trying to approach me to ask me a question, I will become an angry existential squirrrel and tell you in some variation thereof to "f*ck off!" ranging from a cold stare to actually saying "fuck off!"

slightly off topic:
dear PMS... stop making me crave foods that Dominican's dining hall cannot provide, such as pizzelles and cannoli. also, stop making me crave my mom's Italian style flank steak (brasciole). Good grief, I need to get in touch with my Italian half of the family
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Postby sophyturtle » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:00 pm UTC

Interesting thing about PMS. Mom (after coming back from a conference) told me progesterone and things like Valium use the same receptors, so during PMS time when your progesterone levels drop it is like having withdrawal. She was told a way to deal with this is when a client gets into a fight with a close person to them they should try to wait a week before continuing the fight.
I think it might be a good plan in general. Take the mean passion out of fighting.
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Postby podbaydoor » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:26 pm UTC

My shark weeks are somewhat irregular. My problem is that when I'm feeling pissy, I never know if it's PMS or if it's just bad diet or bad sleep or random funk or what. Last month I had a crappy RAEG day and thought maybe shark week was nigh, but it didn't arrive for another two weeks.
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Postby Angua » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:34 pm UTC

What really annoys me is when you're feeling in a bad mood and snappy, and people (generally men in my experience but not always) immediately assumes that PMS is the cause. Sometimes, women just have bad moods, and sometimes it's our hormones messing with us, but I still feel like that and don't need to be told I'm just being hormonal.
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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:38 pm UTC

But it's such a handy way to dismiss women's problems!

Seriously though, most of the time, I know it's PMS, people do not have to tell me. And telling me I'm PMSing is not going to magically make me not PMS. It might magically make me want to smack people, though.
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Postby sophyturtle » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:49 pm UTC

That is one thing that is BS. Just because our bad mood is hormone related does not make it less real. ALL moods are hormone related, some hormones are just a bit more gentle than others.
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Postby Jessica » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:57 pm UTC

And some people are socialized to ignore all emotions except anger, while others are socialized to express them.

Everyone has hormones. It's how our bodies work! *mutter mutter mutter*
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Postby podbaydoor » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:19 pm UTC

I also hate it when people accuse men of PMSing, in the same vein as accusing them of having a vagina. "Don't be like those emotional, irrational women, guys!"
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Postby Aaeriele » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:47 pm UTC

Speaking of emotions, me breaking down crying in the middle of 20+ male engineers at work an hour or two ago was not exactly the best for my mood.
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Postby Jessica » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:53 pm UTC

Aaeriele wrote:Speaking of emotions, me breaking down crying in the middle of 20+ male engineers at work an hour or two ago was not exactly the best for my mood.
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Postby existential_squirrrel » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:41 pm UTC

Jessica wrote:
Aaeriele wrote:Speaking of emotions, me breaking down crying in the middle of 20+ male engineers at work an hour or two ago was not exactly the best for my mood.
*super hugs*



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Postby Sandry » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:54 pm UTC

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Aaeriele wrote:Speaking of emotions, me breaking down crying in the middle of 20+ male engineers at work an hour or two ago was not exactly the best for my mood.
*super hugs*



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Postby DaBigCheez » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:37 pm UTC

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Postby Cathy » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:10 pm UTC

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are the ickiest nastiest annoyingest thing ever. Not really, but I hate them and they are icky and should go away and not come back. And I have one. Gr. :cry:
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Postby GraphiteGirl » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:36 pm UTC

Sandry, if international postage weren't so prohibitively expensive, I would buy you a giant teddy.

Also, I've been in a real puddle of moodiness over the last few days, coinciding with the beginning of Shark Week, and I don't usually get PMS, so I'm finding myself wondering how much of my mood is about circumstance and how much is about hormonal heightening of experiences, and whether it could be a hormonal phase that runs on some scale other than PMS.

I think we should do something for science. Get as many people from the fora as possible, of all genders or lack thereof, to do a mood tracking journal for a year. They could do very brief notes each day unless they felt compelled to write more. At the end of the year we could analyse the data and look for cyclical trends or lack thereof. Would anyone be up for participating?
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Postby PictureSarah » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:42 pm UTC

I will. Anyone who wants to, I recommend cyclespage.com, because it allows for all sorts of note-taking. My personal feelings on PMS are that I definitely have it, but the things that upset me are things that would upset me regardless of hormonal complications - I just react more strongly than I normally would.
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Postby Virtual_Aardvark » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:19 am UTC

I will. It's hard to tell If I PMS because I already have dramatic mood swings and really messy eating and sleeping habits. The fact that Shark Week is neigh on unpredictable doesn't help. Being able to say "Oh so that's why I blew up a week ago" really isn't that useful.
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Postby existential_squirrrel » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:19 am UTC

GraphiteGirl wrote:I think we should do something for science. Get as many people from the fora as possible, of all genders or lack thereof, to do a mood tracking journal for a year. They could do very brief notes each day unless they felt compelled to write more. At the end of the year we could analyse the data and look for cyclical trends or lack thereof. Would anyone be up for participating?


Count me in! :)
I've always wanted to try tracking my moods and emotions for a year. especially now that I have more of a reason to do it-
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panic disorder


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Postby Amie » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:24 am UTC

GraphiteGirl wrote:Would anyone be up for participating?

Yes!

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Postby Plasmic-Turtle » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:39 am UTC

semicharmed wrote:I've never received a compliment from another woman that made me feel upset or creeped out. I've also never received a compliment from an unknown woman that was something like "your ass looks GREAT in those heels" or "nice boobs" whereas I've heard similar things from guys.

People actually say that stuff to others they don't know very well?! Shit that'd make me angry. Wolf-whistling's the worst I've had, I think, besides some creepy-looking jerk in a club who thought he had the right to tell me to smile. Should've punched him (it was worse than it sounds, honest).
blue_eyedspacemonkey wrote:And telling me I'm PMSing is not going to magically make me not PMS. It might magically make me want to smack people, though.

So so true! It made me feel like Mum was completely disregarding my feelings when she'd say "it's probably just PMS darling" to me as a teen. Cause when it wasn't PMS, it meant she wasn't hearing me out and taking me seriously, and when it was I was feeling pretty wild and incredibly depressed - what do you mean 'just'?! In hindsight I think recognising it as PMS and having someone remind me of that possibility before I took my suicidal feelings too seriously was important, now with more experience I can recognise it and deal with it more effectively, but shit, it's not 'just' PMS when it's that bad!

I'd be up for participating in a mood-tracking thing, thanks for the link to cyclespage PictureSarah - I'd never heard of it. Although I'm on the pill at the moment and I know it affects things, PMS is generally absent or much less noticeable when I'm on the pill for a start. Not sure how we'd share the data though at the end of the year anyway? And are circumstances different for you at the mo GraphiteGirl? Cause I find that lack of sleep, excess caffeine, stress etc can make PMS a hell of a lot worse. Sometimes it seems to be neglible and sometimes it's been outright terrible, and I've found lifestyle and circumstance seem to have had a lot to do with it in the past.

Also... MASSIVE hugs for Aarielle and e_s and Cathy and anyone else who'd like them. And virtual lemon honey ginger drinks, seeing as teddy bears and cookies and kittehs and things seem to already be plentiful...

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Postby Hope_ » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:00 am UTC

I'll join in. :) I often feel like my mood fluctuates due to Shark week, I swear I get more prone to tears on and around it, which is not helpful and not really me at all. I know my libido is definitely affected (really want it right before and right after, then normal and then not at while I'm on), it would be interesting to note the larger effects. I am on the pill though so that will affect things, still interesting though.

I'll also add to the general group hugs and internet baked goods of your choice for anybody who needs/wants them.
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Postby semicharmed » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:54 am UTC

Sandry - try looking here! They're not 5 feet, but they're definitely big enough for a substantial rage hug.

Also, I'm off for a meeting, but I'd be down for tracking stuff.

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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:34 am UTC

I keep considering doing a mood tracking journal anyway, so yeah, this will make me do it and not just consider it. My hormones and period and all that related stuff are out of whack, so the results should be interesting.
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Postby Hawknc » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:56 am UTC

GraphiteGirl wrote:I think we should do something for science. Get as many people from the fora as possible, of all genders or lack thereof, to do a mood tracking journal for a year. They could do very brief notes each day unless they felt compelled to write more. At the end of the year we could analyse the data and look for cyclical trends or lack thereof. Would anyone be up for participating?

I will totally attempt this, as long as patterns of "nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, RAGEFACE, lolcats, nothing" are acceptable.


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