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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby Jauss » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:19 am UTC

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CaraInFrames wrote: Any of the gentlemen here have an engagement ring or would have desire for said??


I invite anyone to stand up and contradict me, here, but I feel pretty safe in saying no.


One of my best friends has an engagement ring (gold band with a few little diamonds) because his wife proposed to him.
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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby Khonsu » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:36 am UTC

In my humble opinion, jewelry, clothes, flowers, and chocolates are really fucking useless gifts. Jewelry gets lost or you feel obligated to wear it all the fucking time, flowers DIE, and chocolates get eaten. Why not get something that REALLY shows you care, like a trip somewhere special together? At least then you have shared memories that last a lifetime, instead of something materialistic and useless. The only way I'd ever accept something traditionally "romantic" is if I could use it for more than looking good and it would last more than a goddamn week, otherwise you're just saying "I can't think of something that you'd actually use and enjoy, being unique, to give you, so I'm falling back on meaningless, sexist tropes." Seriously, buy me computer parts or a new gadget or maybe something I've been really needing, that shows you're paying attention waaay more than something cheesy.

One of the main things I hear stupid guys bitching about is how women "love wasting money on useless shit" and "care about material things." I guess they don't realize their LCD TVs and "keeping up with the Jones' " attitude is the same thing, right? Why do guys buy stuff that the most bitter, Nice Guy types of them whine about later? Seriously, go on /b/ for five minutes and just for a SECOND consider that maybe someone's being serious in those anti-women threads. Scary, huh? There ARE people like that!

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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby litework » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:23 am UTC

Khonsu wrote:In my humble opinion, jewelry, clothes, flowers, and chocolates are really fucking useless gifts. Jewelry gets lost or you feel obligated to wear it all the fucking time, flowers DIE, and chocolates get eaten. Why not get something that REALLY shows you care, like a trip somewhere special together? At least then you have shared memories that last a lifetime, instead of something materialistic and useless. The only way I'd ever accept something traditionally "romantic" is if I could use it for more than looking good and it would last more than a goddamn week, otherwise you're just saying "I can't think of something that you'd actually use and enjoy, being unique, to give you, so I'm falling back on meaningless, sexist tropes." Seriously, buy me computer parts or a new gadget or maybe something I've been really needing, that shows you're paying attention waaay more than something cheesy.


Awww but what about the romance of it all? I would tend to agree with you, as I am very much anti-futile-and-useless-shit, but I have been softening of late (desperation?) ...wouldn't it be nice to have it ALL? Not necessarily the chocolates, but flowers are lovely and I adore jewelry but it HAS to be silver (ooh and I have a weakness for stuffed animals)... that stuff is totally worth it just for the gesture. I agree with the trip and useful gifts too, though. My ex was really good at that.

So, Santa: I will be a good girl aaaaaaaaall year if you can find me a guy who is simultaneously practical and impractically in love with me.

Just a thought but maybe I am setting myself up for frustration here :P
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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby Antimatter Spork » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:37 am UTC

Khonsu wrote:In my humble opinion, jewelry, clothes, flowers, and chocolates are really fucking useless gifts

Hey. Chocolate is DAMN good. If you think it's such a crappy gift, you can just send all of your chocolate to me, where it will be appreciated (and by appreciated I mean devoured).
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Postby Insignificant Deifaction » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:41 am UTC

@Khonsu: I suppose it really depends on how you're looking at things. Jewelry means different things to different people, and different types of jewelry add myriad new combinations.

For example, to you and me a ring means approximately jack-all, to another it may be the ultimate symbol of love. Similarly, what I wear means the world to me, and others see it as nothing more than a fashion statement.

As for flowers and chocolate... absolutely.

And, I have no sense of romance. There was a little bit, which simply highlighted what actually happened.
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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby Khonsu » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:53 am UTC

litework wrote:Awww but what about the romance of it all?

I'm more of a words and action person than a stuff person. Romance, to me, is treating your lover EVERY DAY the way you'd treat them if you suddenly found out they only had six months to live. You two aren't co-dependent, but you're sweet, you know? Have a good time. Laughing at a great joke until we cry and then kissing sweetly is more romantic to me than, say, being given something. Sometimes, yes, gifts are awesome, but I suppose I associate gifts with exes or people I know who act like jerks one minute and then dote on their lover the next--feels slightly disingenuous. I know a lot of people like gifts, but my mom and I are kind of similar, though she actually gets physically ILL opening a present at Christmas. No one's bought her anything, ever, and she LIKES that. That I don't get, but I'd rather get a gift just 'cause than, say, a big "important" gift like a ring on an anniversary or something similar.

I dunno, even when I was a kid, I never really wanted anything, that I can remember. I liked books, and I think the only thing I ever really remember seeking out were beanie babies and a Tamagotchi, but only because I was teased for not having any, and I didn't like being teased. Whereas some of my friends' houses were messy with toys everywhere, my family had a lot of books, papers, and bits of invisible tape stuck everywhere. I don't know what the invisible tape was all about, but I fucking LOVED invisible tape as a kid. I stuck it everywhere, drawing or writing on it, and then I realized I could use it to make rudimentary books and little stick figures or something. I made a lot of things.

I was a weird kid.

And I like chocolate, I just don't like receiving it as a formal gift because then I feel weird eating it, especially if the other person won't eat it with me.

EDIT: Wait, I do like some flowers--if they're pressed or seedlings and I can plant and cultivate them. I can't have a garden right now, but I'd love to. I'm thinking of getting into bonsai, actually.

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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby litework » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:07 am UTC

Beautifully put. Sooooo many things can be romantic, indeed. And gardening RULES - just the IDEA of cultivation of any sort, but especially in regards to nature. And love.
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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby WraithXt1 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:22 am UTC

I buy Chocolate as a gift, does that make me a sexist? I happen to think chocolate is a great gift, but maybe thats because I love chocolate.

I do agree with Khonsu though, gifts should be based not on "What women want", buy on what your woman wants. Of course the same goes for women, but I've been lucky with women that pay attention enough to know what I want/need, so I guess I cant complain.

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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby Alisto » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:04 am UTC

I am male. If the lady proposed to me, I would gladly wear an engagement ring. Provided it wasn't a woman's engagement ring, anyway.
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Postby wing » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:13 am UTC

Alisto wrote:I am male. If the lady proposed to me, I would gladly wear an engagement ring. Provided it wasn't a woman's engagement ring, anyway.

Meh, I'd totally wear it even if it WERE a woman's engagement ring.
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Re: Girl Thread: You make me feel like a natural womaaaan

Postby Khonsu » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:38 am UTC

http://www.titaniumrings.com/ If the ring was from here, I could probably wear it. They make rings in my size (!!!), and they're AWESOME. SCIENCE RULES.

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Postby litework » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:13 am UTC

Khonsu wrote:http://www.titaniumrings.com/ If the ring was from here, I could probably wear it. They make rings in my size (!!!), and they're AWESOME. SCIENCE RULES.


:o LOVE 'em! As a piercing enthusiast, I am elated they would match my other jewelry too, so I take it back about rings having to be silver.

Plus, when someone asks about the ring, saying it's "diamond treated AIRCRAFT-GRADE titanium" is just WAY too cool!
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Postby Aleril » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:17 am UTC

Khonsu wrote:http://www.titaniumrings.com/ If the ring was from here, I could probably wear it. They make rings in my size (!!!), and they're AWESOME. SCIENCE RULES.



Very nice, the black titanium looks especially nice, I don't know why though.
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Postby Khonsu » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:05 am UTC

Because it looks like hematite, and hematite is awesome (if very fragile when dropped D: )!

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Postby jmrz » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:00 pm UTC

Looking at those rings, a couple of internet friends I know have just got engaged and that is where their rings must come from. I am not quite sure what type of ring I would like if I ever got engaged, but it would have to either be white gold or platinum, I am not a fan of yellow gold. However, whatever the ring looked like, it would be special, because it came from the person I loved and planned on spending a long time with, so the shape/size/cost of the diamond isn't what really matters.

This is my friend's ring. It is lovely and I like that the stones are flush with the band.
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Postby Delalyra » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:57 pm UTC

Khonsu wrote:http://www.titaniumrings.com/ If the ring was from here, I could probably wear it. They make rings in my size (!!!), and they're AWESOME. SCIENCE RULES.

Wow... those are beautiful. This one's my favorite. This one is also quite cute...I'd end up playing with it all the time, I'm sure.

Edit: Annnnd, hehe, naturally they have a one ring replica.
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Postby @trophy » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:58 pm UTC

@Cara: I've got an engagement ring I need to get rid of. It's a three stone emerald cut, center stone is 3/4 carat, cathedral set with little diamonds covering the rest of the band.

@podbaydoor: Springfield, Missouri. And yeah I don't like that look either. That's one of those things I'm hoping to change about society if possible. But first I'll need to find other like minded people.

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Postby Azrael » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:38 pm UTC

Khonsu wrote:In my humble opinion, jewelry, clothes, flowers, and chocolates are really fucking useless gifts. .... Why not get something that REALLY shows you care, like a trip somewhere special together?


... 'Cause chocolate cost like $20. Trips to somewhere special usually don't.

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Postby Aleril » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:06 pm UTC

Azrael wrote:
Khonsu wrote:In my humble opinion, jewelry, clothes, flowers, and chocolates are really fucking useless gifts. .... Why not get something that REALLY shows you care, like a trip somewhere special together?


... 'Cause chocolate cost like $20. Trips to somewhere special usually don't.


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I *love* tension settings like the one in the middle.
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Postby Aleril » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:54 pm UTC

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I *love* tension settings like the one in the middle.


Same here, but it looks like it's going to fall out any minute.
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Postby wing » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:07 pm UTC

http://www.titaniumrings.com/blackgold/TzuzuB.html

I just dropped VIOLENT hints about that. With a black diamond. Because black diamonds are the shit!

"Dude, what the hell is that thing on your finger? It looks like a goddamn brick." "That's a chunk of aircraft-grade aluminum with a 24K gold inlay and a friggin' BLACK DIAMOND stuck in there by the SHEER POWER OF PHYSICS! Oh, what, you don't even have a girlfriend yet? You only god laid once because we helped you at that party? What are you doing looking at my ring finger? Trying to decide if you want to ask me out? Homo."

And that's actually just about how that conversation would go with one of my friends...
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Postby Berengal » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:54 pm UTC

That ring looks awesome, wing. I would've almost bought it for myself if I was the ringwearing type.
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Postby Heather » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:29 pm UTC

I have an engagement ring that I should probably get rid of. It's pretty traditional looking, but slightly different in that my ex-fiance had the setting brought down a bit, because he didn't want the diamond to get snagged on my knitting. :)

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White gold. Like jmrz, I don't particularly care for yellow gold. He was going to opt for platinum, but it apparently was much more prone to visible scratches.

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Postby @trophy » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:13 am UTC

Aleril wrote:
Belial wrote:I *love* tension settings like the one in the middle.


Same here, but it looks like it's going to fall out any minute.


Am I the only one thinking that the edges around the diamond look mighty sharp?
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Postby Windmill » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:50 am UTC

Those titanium rings are fantastic. They're really simple and elegant, beautiful rings!

I actually have a girly question. My mom and I are making this dress for a formal, and it's backless. I have been lucky enough thus far to always be able to wear a strapless bra, so I was wondering if anyone can tell me about those stick on cups. Any preferences towards brands or experiences you can share would be awesome.

And how do I keep my date's hands off me? :wink: Just kidding.

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Postby parkaboy » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:54 am UTC

sorry i can't help ya there, but i'm glad you asked. i've been curious about thsoe things as well. i assume there is a certain size limit at which they are simply not very effective, or effective at all, but i've never had occasion to try it out.

also - you should post pictures of the dress. i LOVE seeing what other people make ^_^
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Postby jmrz » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:19 am UTC

Windmill wrote:Those titanium rings are fantastic. They're really simple and elegant, beautiful rings!

I actually have a girly question. My mom and I are making this dress for a formal, and it's backless. I have been lucky enough thus far to always be able to wear a strapless bra, so I was wondering if anyone can tell me about those stick on cups. Any preferences towards brands or experiences you can share would be awesome.

And how do I keep my date's hands off me? :wink: Just kidding.



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Postby Aleril » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:26 am UTC

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Aleril wrote:
Belial wrote:I *love* tension settings like the one in the middle.


Same here, but it looks like it's going to fall out any minute.


Am I the only one thinking that the edges around the diamond look mighty sharp?


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Postby Ren » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:35 am UTC

SilentSigil wrote:Mined by the blood and sweat of other humans, and made popular by the greedy and aristoctratic, then made scarce again by large companies for profit at the price of human lives...


NOT IF THEY'RE FROM CANADA, DAMMIT!

Plus, you get a microscopic polar bear engraved on your diamond if it is legitimately Canadian. How awesome is that?
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Postby Fossa » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:36 am UTC

Thank you so much for that titanium rings link. I know now where my wedding band is coming from assuming, you know, I ever meet the right person and get married.

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Postby Aleril » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:45 am UTC

Ren wrote:
SilentSigil wrote:Mined by the blood and sweat of other humans, and made popular by the greedy and aristoctratic, then made scarce again by large companies for profit at the price of human lives...


NOT IF THEY'RE FROM CANADA, DAMMIT!

Plus, you get a microscopic polar bear engraved on your diamond if it is legitimately Canadian. How awesome is that?


Eh to that!

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Ren wrote:
SilentSigil wrote:Mined by the blood and sweat of other humans, and made popular by the greedy and aristoctratic, then made scarce again by large companies for profit at the price of human lives...


NOT IF THEY'RE FROM CANADA, DAMMIT!

Plus, you get a microscopic polar bear engraved on your diamond if it is legitimately Canadian. How awesome is that?


ok that is cool. that makes me want a canadian diamond, jsut so i can bust out one of those inspection lenses and be all "hehe i have a polar bear!"

*edit to add* OH OH!

in soviet canada, polar bear rides around on YOU!
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Postby Belial » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:20 am UTC

Fossa wrote:Thank you so much for that titanium rings link. I know now where my wedding band is coming from assuming, you know, I ever meet the right person and get married.


Why wait? Just go get yourself some man-bling
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Postby parkaboy » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:24 am UTC

Belial wrote:
Fossa wrote:Thank you so much for that titanium rings link. I know now where my wedding band is coming from assuming, you know, I ever meet the right person and get married.


Why wait? Just go get yourself some man-bling


it might even help you meet "the right person". she's the one that doesnt eye the ring before she eyes you.

that didnt come out right but now i dont know what i was trying to say...
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Postby Aleril » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:28 am UTC

Belial wrote:
Fossa wrote:Thank you so much for that titanium rings link. I know now where my wedding band is coming from assuming, you know, I ever meet the right person and get married.


Why wait? Just go get yourself some man-bling


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Postby joeframbach » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:32 am UTC

Windmill wrote:TI have been lucky enough thus far to always be able to wear a strapless bra, so I was wondering if anyone can tell me about those stick on cups.


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It is a fairly simple concept. There is a cup attached to a stick, with a string attached to a ball. You swing it around, trying to get the ball in the cup.

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Postby parkaboy » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:34 am UTC

stick-on cup, not cup-on-stick =] but i laughed.
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Back in our day we had to walk uphill both ways through the snow on fire without feet to get fucking terrible relationship advice from disinterested and socially maladjusted nerds. Belial


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