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Postby lukkucairi » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:58 am UTC

Meaux_Pas wrote:[Told me nobody'd give a 19 year old nulliparous woman an IUD.

After wanting one for like, five years, I managed to connect with a doctor who'd give me one at a time when I could afford one.
They can be up to $600(US) depending on your insurance.

I've had it for a year and every time I think about it I do a happy dance.


*I never tried a diaphragm. I tried spermicide and it burned the shit out of my vajayjay. Didn't want to use one without the other... so that was out.


I love how they want to tell you what it is you want, reproductively. I mean, it's not like an IUD is a tubal ligation. sheesh!

I actually got a diaphragm after I finally got off the pill - and HATED it - basically for that reason. spermicide burns. ERK.

a friend of mine turned me on to a thing called a Persona ovulation monitor (only available in the European Union, thank you very much idiot US FDA) - you have little pee sticks to test for hormones, the machine (size of a glasses case) reads them, and after about 4 cycles you know by how your body feels whether you're ovulating or not.

avoid sex during dangerous time around ovulation, and you don't have to worry about babies. YAY.

of course, after you've figured it out, you realize that when you ovulate is pretty much the time when you are the most rabidly horny, so it still sucks...

still, even if you're not sexually active, I'd still recommend using it, just so you can learn what your body feels like when it's doing different stuff.

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Postby Lani » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:00 am UTC

The thing about the NuvaRing that was extra unexpected is that it made my boobs jump up a cup size....it's not supposed to do that. My gyn was pretty shocked to hear it and actually suggested that maybe they'll keep growing more and more (cue: panic!!). Luckily, they only grew one size and then stopped. It has made bra shopping even more difficult though, since I have a small rib cage.

Also, make up - I realize I'm the weird one here, but I just don't like it and I never have. I figure that this is me, and if you don't like it, too damn bad. Along with that, I only shave if I am dating someone who cares (and then that's only if I'm going to see him soon) or wear a skirt. I'm in a hippie town though, where lots of girls don't shave. I don't see it as a huge deal.

Now, that said, I do like to be feminine in wearing things that flatter my figure. It's awfully fun to be curvy!
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Postby GhostWolfe » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:03 am UTC

I'm really curious about this cup. I use panty liners 24-7, no exceptions because I seem to be naturally "goopy". If I didn't wear a panty liner, I would seriously feel damp all day long. It was cute with my first BF to not wear a liner if I was going to see him, but it got annoying fast. I don't think I'd be able to stop wearing said panty liners with the cup, but I am all about not having to run back to the office, grab a tampon, run back to bathroom in emergencies.

I never called them "chunks", I always refered to them as clots, and sometimes I get rather large ones, more solid than plehgm, but not "hard". It both grosses me out and provides me with morbid fascination at the same time.

I was on the 3-month injections, but I changed jobs and now the closest doctor charges $70 upfront just to jab a needle in my rear. I've been thinking about getting the implant, which is good for a year, but I'm kinda freaked out by there being some little tube under the skin in my arm.

I also need to unlazy myself and trim the bush. I tried shaving it all off as a surprise for the BF, and it doesn't actually feel that bad. If it weren't for regrowth (little prickly hairs poking me in sensitive places), I'd keep doing it. So I'm going to try the trimmed look, see if that feels almost as good.
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Postby Lani » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:10 am UTC

I tried shaving down there at the request of an ex (when we were together, obviously), and my skin revolted. It was absolutely impossible to shave with tearing my skin to shreds, and I tried everything you could possibly think of to make it better. Waxing hurts way too damn much and is too expensive, so I go for the trimmed look now. It also does not make me feel like a 11 year old girl.
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Postby unjovial » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:13 am UTC

Is it just me or are there other females out there who've never kept track of their periods? Occassionally a doctor will ask me "When did you have your last period?" or "How many days is your cycle?". I don't know! I've never known! I never remember how long ago I had it, either. I just know when It's coming based on little body signals which are hard to explain. I get about 2 days notice.

I tell you, any kind of chemical contraceptive makes me wary. I was on the pill for a while and that was okay, but I do feel a bit odd about controlling my periods like that. I've talked to chicks who just straight out skip the red pills ( in monofeme-28 ), so they don't have to have periods. That can't be right. I know of people who were prescribed the pill for severe period problems, though, so it definately has its positives.
I'm going to side with Lani and seriously discourage anybody from tyring the injection, Depo Provera. There's evidence of it making women sterile and It's banned in the UK, I think. Also, I had it once and didn't stop bleeding for THREE WHOLE WEEKS. Fuck that. I mean, fuck that. I'd rather not be a guinea pig for contraceptive science. Condoms are good. Unfortunately the guys lose some sensation, but we get the peace of mind that we're not screwing with our bodies unnecessarily.

Having said all of that - It's your body, so just do what feels right for you, I reckon.

As for shaving, same thing: Do what feels right for you. I shave when I feel like it, but It's kind of a bonus having fine, light body-hair.

About make-up, I used to wear it all the time, because I was so self-conscious about my red cheeks. They're like Santa's cheeks, honest. But now I really only wear it when I'm dressing up, cos it's fun.

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Postby liza » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:14 am UTC

I'm going to bite the bullet and ask (usually I don't ask things of this nature, as I'm nervous and squeamish, but the mask of the internet emboldens me!).

What can I do to make losing my virginity hurt less? Any less? I'm seriously afraid of that. Luckily I still have a while on that front, and I need it; I haven't even used a tampon yet. :oops:

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unjovial wrote:Is it just me or are there other females out there who've never kept track of their periods? Occassionally a doctor will ask me "When did you have your last period?" or "How many days is your cycle?". I don't know! I've never known! I never remember how long ago I had it, either. I just know when It's coming based on little body signals which are hard to explain. I get about 2 days notice.

That's how I worked until two months ago, when I happened to notice when it started and it stuck in my head. Also, I hate when male doctors get pissy that I don't know. I just don't think that have the right to be uppity about that.
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:14 am UTC

Sorry for my previous hormonal post. It's that time of the month for me.

Well, to answer a few things, my wife hasn't had a period since 2004, so she doesn't need that sort of thing, but it was through her I heard about the Diva Cup (she tells me all sorts of wierd things she finds on the intertubes about women). She even showed me diagrams.

Well, first child was induced TWICE, and still nothing happened. The spinal was administered incorrectly seven times, resulting in excruciating pain even after the drugs were administered. She was then given narcotic painkillers, to which she is allergic, then given Tylenol, to which she is allergic. She spent three days in agony while the doctors tried every drug in the book to get her to induce. They fed her only water and beef broth (she is a vegetarian, the beef broth just made her vomit and, consequently, hugely undernourished). Eventually, she recieved an 'emergency' C-section, and I say emergency, because we had to wait for two hours in the room, all set up, before the doctor would show up. He doesn't start work before 7:30 am, no matter what. Eventually, my son was born, strong as a horse (he lifted his head and looked around the instant he was wrapped up and placed on the table.) My wife could not sit up for four days. Due to the huge cocktail of drugs, her milk never came in, and she had only a handful of periods over the next two years before they stopped entirely. At the time, I was the quiet, sheltered, nerdy coward who doesn't even complain when the wrong order arrives at a restaraunt, and I didn't stand up for her or my rights at the hospital.

She miscarried twice in the next three years.

When we eventually concieved again (with the help of eight months of fertility treatments), the first ultrasounds of the baby showed a large buildup of fluid around her heart, and a serious arrhythmia which only got worse with time. Now because this particular sort of arrhythmia is often cured simply by being born, they scheduled her for a C-section (in a different city). Things went pretty great that time, we they listened and listened GOOD when I said "No, if you give her morphine, I'm going to throw you down the elevator shaft". My daughter was born healthy and strong, with no sign of fluid or arrhythmia after a few days, but she was very malnourished and jaundiced, and we had to stay for observation for eight days. Again, they mostly fed her beef broth, so I brought in footlong veggie subs every day.

And this time, after probably a dozen instances of sex in the past year, I knocked her up again without fertility drugs. We didn't find out until she was 13 weeks along, because, as I said, no periods. Our first ultrasound, 'emergency' ultrasound? Yeah, end of AUGUST, when the kid is 5.5 months along.

I f***ing hate doctors.

Ok, that's really my contribution of girly things. I do have a question to ask you ladies, but I'll do it something when I haven't just relived some of the worst times in my life.

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Postby Twasbrillig » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:21 am UTC

Guy here. Yes, I'm reading; No, I'm not grossed out. Why am I reading? Because I'm most likely going to be dealing with more of the guy-girl related stuff in not so long a time. Such as this(!):

lukkucairi wrote:avoid sex during dangerous time around ovulation, and you don't have to worry about babies.


So, uh... I'm not exactly a veteran to this, I'm not sure if my girlfriend is overly aware of this either. What times during the month is it okay to have sex without having to worry about pregnancy?

It can't be 0% chance, but is it a >1% chance of conceiving during said non-dangerous times?
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Postby GhostWolfe » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:21 am UTC

Somnia: You can very gently stretch yourself. When you masturbate, spend some time using your fingers to very gently stretch the entrance to your vagina. Also, lubricant, it works wonders (now if I can just get my BF to remember that...)

Lani: I hate makeup. I wear it for special occasions. Apart from that I rarely even use a little gloss or lipstick. Way too much hassle. Also, I use hair removal creams on the nether-regions and tidy up the folds with a razor, less chance of burn or nicks.

unjovial: I have never kept track, I keep meaning to, but I always forget. It's just not the important to me.

I had the period from hell when I came off the injections, and now I getting spotting all the damned time, it's time to start seriously hunting for another birth control solution.
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Postby Roun » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:27 am UTC

Secret Clubhouse: Girls Only!


Breakin' the law! Breakin' the law!

(Yeah, okay, I don't actually have anything to contribute. Carry on)

EDIT: Maybe I do!

So, uh... I'm not exactly a veteran to this, I'm not sure if my girlfriend is overly aware of this either. What times during the month is it okay to have sex without having to worry about pregnancy?

It can't be 0% chance, but is it a >1% chance of conceiving during said non-dangerous times?


I think that right before, during, and directly after a period is safe, because the sperm has to meet the egg in the tube that I can't remember the name of.
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Postby parkaboy » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:29 am UTC

awwwww. and wow. i'd say you guys are VERY lucky. Your kids look great. =]

unjovial - never kept track of mine. i thought about starting but as long as it happens about the same time it normally does (i have an auto-estimation in my head) thats fine by me.

Well, i say fine, i'd rather skip the whole thing. the pms alone does a psychological number on me. i'm rarely cranky, but i get very depressed and cry at everything. if i havent cried, i FIND a reason to. I'm very quiet about it and no, i dont want to talk about whats wrong, go away - for about a week. i think Jeff is finally getting the hang of "give her chocolates and videogames and go away" and everything works out for the best.

*edit* as for shaving the pubic hair, it falls under my policy of "hair, ew." and i try to keep it VERY trimmed of not completely gone. the skin rebels occasionally, but those regrowth pricklies are THE WORST. again, i say laser it off. if i had the money i'd be all for it. and waxing? HAHAno.
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Postby GhostWolfe » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:33 am UTC

It's a fallopian tube, and if you want to do it crudely, fertility is highest - on average - between 9 and 15 days after Shark Week begins. Avoid sex during those times. Just google "ovulation cycle".
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Postby Lani » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:35 am UTC

Guys - the rhythm method is NOT A GOOD CONTRACEPTIVE. A woman maybe *shouldn't* be able to get pregnant at certain times, but bodies do crazy things all the time. So see if she's able to get on a real contraceptive, and in the mean time, use a condom.
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Postby Twasbrillig » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:38 am UTC

SilverWolfe wrote:Just google "ovulation cycle".


'tis one of Murphy's Laws that any mature search for medical information will yield at least one porn site.


...menstrual porn is in no way hot.

lani wrote:Guys - the rhythm method is NOT A GOOD CONTRACEPTIVE. A woman maybe *shouldn't* be able to get pregnant at certain times, but bodies do crazy things all the time. So see if she's able to get on a real contraceptive


You've been putting down every single method of birth control! Any that aren't immediately hated won't be accessible to us! She's 15, for God's sake!
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Postby parkaboy » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:39 am UTC

in re: to lani's post

i was thinking that too. the one thing i remember my high school health teacher (who was actually VERY intelligent) saying was, "a woman can only get pregnant one time... that time is ANY time."
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Postby Twasbrillig » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:40 am UTC

apocralypse wrote:i was thinking that too. the one thing i remember my high school health teacher (who was actually VERY intelligent) saying was, "a woman can only get pregnant one time... that time is ANY time."


Of course, but it's taken as a granted that if you don't have sex on an extremely regular basis, and you're careful about what time you do, then a >1% chance isn't really a big problem.
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Postby Lani » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:42 am UTC

I've put down withdrawl, rhythm, and the depo shot as forms of birth control. Condoms work well if she can't get access to hormonal birth control or diaphragms. Seriously, pregnancy is a very serious thing, and if you can do something to control when it happens then it's worth doing!
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Postby Kawa » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:43 am UTC

I agree with Lani completely and totally.

On makeup: I worked at a teen mag last summer and got a whole pile of makeup. I've found tinted moisturizers incredibly helpful, especially if they also have sunscreen in them (which most do) but otherwise I hardly wear makeup except on important occasions (homecoming and my first date come to mind.) And now I've stopped using the moisturizers as well. I have unusually dry skin though so I'll always be slathering *some*thing on my face otherwise it's dry and disgusting. (Think eczema, on your face. NOT FUN. I need to see a dermatologist. :( )

On shaving: I don't shave anymore because my boyfriend doesn't care. Praise geeky boys! I do pluck my underarms but that's because I don't feel like the deodorant sticks if there's hair there.
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Postby __Kit » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:44 am UTC

I was just waiting for someone to make this (couldn't be me)

This will be the last time I post in this thread, so you know, girl power, and flowers and stuff, bye...
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Postby unjovial » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:45 am UTC

Somnia wrote:I'm going to bite the bullet and ask (usually I don't ask things of this nature, as I'm nervous and squeamish, but the mask of the internet emboldens me!).

What can I do to make losing my virginity hurt less? Any less? I'm seriously afraid of that. Luckily I still have a while on that front, and I need it; I haven't even used a tampon yet. :oops:


Well, my first time didn't hurt at all because I was drunk and high as a kite and looking back, I feel robbed of that whole awkward, painful first time experience. My boyfriend had been impatiently waiting for months and we were both horribly intoxicated. :(
So I don't have alot of advice for this other than: It is going to hurt. Relish it as part of your conscious decision to give your virginity away, I say. Reduce friction with lubricant and reduce fear with foreplay.

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Postby parkaboy » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:47 am UTC

my first time didnt hurt. soooo, er, i dont know. sorry =( mine was completely different from that though... no drugs, no alcohol, just me and him and Starflyer59 spinnin' on the rekkid player...

i'm remembering that too fondly. i hate the bastard. in retrospect, he was VERY very creepy. i guess i'm drawn to that though.
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Postby Lani » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:48 am UTC

Yeah, it actually took me twice to get through it all - I had to stop initially because it hurt too much. But, when you're in the moment, you (well, at least I) want to continue enough to ignore the pain.

The first time is always going to be rough, like unjovial said. But then it gets YAY AWESOME FANTASTIC! (Well, if you have a good partner. In case you don't, invest in a good vibrator. I truly believe every woman should have one...if not several.)


Edit: I wish you ladies lived closer! On Sunday, I'm hosting a Stitch'n'Whine at my house, in which a bunch of girls of all ages come over and work on crafty projects (optional) while drinking wine (if I/any of us can afford to bring some) and have girl talk. It is some of the most awesome time that I get to spend with my girlie friends.
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Postby Twasbrillig » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:01 am UTC

lani wrote:I've put down withdrawl, rhythm, and the depo shot as forms of birth control. Condoms work well if she can't get access to hormonal birth control or diaphragms.


Of COURSE I would pull out. I thought that was implied. We're teenagers, for heaven's sake! Pulling out still doesn't guarantee contraception, though, and I hear condoms just suck.
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Postby parkaboy » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:06 am UTC

now i REALLY wish i still lived in dallas. i've found i'ma social knitter. i dont really work on anything unless its fast or i have other people around me, also knitting or whatever. i'd so drive to austin for that *sad*
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Postby Lani » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:06 am UTC

Oh good lord, I must be doing a terrible job of explaining myself.

Withdrawl and rhythm methods: cannot be trusted. Sperm can get out in pre-ejac. I know someone who got knocked up with twins on the withdrawl method. Rhythm method is also too chancey. These are not good forms of contraception.

Condoms work well if you know how to put them on correctly. The problems usually occur when people put them on wrong. So learn how to put it on correctly, and you'll probably be ok.

Is this clearer? Condoms = good. Rhythm and withdrawl = bad.
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Postby parkaboy » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:07 am UTC

lani wrote:Oh good lord, I must be doing a terrible job of explaining myself.

Withdrawl and rhythm methods: cannot be trusted. Sperm can get out in pre-ejac. I know someone who got knocked up with twins on the withdrawl method. Rhythm method is also too chancey. These are not good forms of contraception.

Condoms work well if you know how to put them on correctly. The problems usually occur when people put them on wrong. So learn how to put it on correctly, and you'll probably be ok.

Is this clearer? Condoms = good. Rhythm and withdrawl = bad.


no you're doing an alright job. he's just a boy. whats he doing in here anyway? (you are a guy, twas?)
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Postby Twasbrillig » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:08 am UTC

lani wrote:Oh good lord, I must be doing a terrible job of explaining myself.

Withdrawl and rhythm methods: cannot be trusted. Sperm can get out in pre-ejac. I know someone who got knocked up with twins on the withdrawl method. Rhythm method is also too chancey. These are not good forms of contraception.

Condoms work well if you know how to put them on correctly. The problems usually occur when people put them on wrong. So learn how to put it on correctly, and you'll probably be ok.

Is this clearer? Condoms = good. Rhythm and withdrawl = bad.


By 'rhythm' you mean having sex just before/during/just after ovulation?

(By the way, there's 2 goddamn a's in withdrawal)
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Postby Joeldi » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:15 am UTC

This thread is damn educational.
'Specially for someone who's never been particualry close to any females.
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Postby Twasbrillig » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:32 am UTC

Wikipedia says that withdrawal has twice the failure rate of condom use, 20 times the failure rate of the pill, but 2/3 that of a diaphragm. Commentary?
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Postby parkaboy » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:39 am UTC

vasectomy. now its not our fault. because apparently everything else we try IS.

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Postby GhostWolfe » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:08 am UTC

Twasbrillig wrote:Wikipedia says that withdrawal has twice the failure rate of condom use, 20 times the failure rate of the pill, but 2/3 that of a diaphragm. Commentary?

If you aren't willing to do it right, don't do it at all. If she falls pregnant at 15, the results are going to be a hell of a lot worse than what would happen if either:

a) she tells a doctor that she wants to go on the pill to ease some troubles she's been having with Shark Week (or whatever it is that girls are supposed to say),
b) she tells a doctor the truth (she will be asked how many partners she has, whether she's had sex before, and what other medication she's on),
c) you suck it up and wear a condom.

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Twasbrillig wrote:Of COURSE I would pull out. I thought that was implied. We're teenagers, for heaven's sake!

I actually have no idea what you mean by this. Were you talking about it just in the contraceptive sense, or does this have a "moral" implication? I've never had a guy "pull out" before coming; never heard someone say that before (... I've never heard of someone *actually* using withdrawal as contraception).

My partner's done it, never as a contraception, but as some kinky thing he wanted to do.

I repeat: if you're not going to do it right, don't do it at all.
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Postby pollywog » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:29 am UTC

Twasbrillig wrote:So, uh... I'm not exactly a veteran to this, I'm not sure if my girlfriend is overly aware of this either. What times during the month is it okay to have sex without having to worry about pregnancy?

It can't be 0% chance, but is it a >1% chance of conceiving during said non-dangerous times?


Never. Never ever use this method. Condoms used properly are your best bet. Withdrawal is even worse.

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unjovial wrote:Is it just me or are there other females out there who've never kept track of their periods? Occassionally a doctor will ask me "When did you have your last period?" or "How many days is your cycle?". I don't know! I've never known! I never remember how long ago I had it, either. I just know when It's coming based on little body signals which are hard to explain. I get about 2 days notice.


I never keep track either. I also get a couple of days notice, first by my brain going, "I haven't had Shark Week in a while" then by "Oh me yarm Oh CRAMPS." I also have *really* bad cramps on the first day, and then none.

I use a tampon for days and pads at night or when I'm feeling shitty.
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I'm a virgin like a few of you others, and tampons are really not that bad. I mean, it's tough to get comfortable when you're first putting one in, but get one with a plastic applicator - not cardboard - and it's much, much easier.
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Postby the human perl script » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:50 am UTC

apocralypse wrote:2. eyebrows
3. makeup

Fuck yeah. Is there some way for me to send out a memo to women to tell them that guys don't give a shit about their eyebrows? You can only make yourself *less* attractive by messing with them. Seriously, that ^_^ look is *not* a turn-on.

And makeup... I can't make any blanket statements about this because a lot of guys seem to like it*. But personally, if I wanted to live in a society where women were pressured into concealing their faces, I'd move to fucking Iran. Do not want. I guess if it's required for your job or something, I can handle it though.

*as in "complain when it's not there", like they're queer eye for the straight chick or something.

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Twasbrillig wrote:Wikipedia says that withdrawal has twice the failure rate of condom use, 20 times the failure rate of the pill, but 2/3 that of a diaphragm. Commentary?


I don't even know where to begin with this, other than a desire to smack you with a wet trout until you get some sense.

Condom Failure and Withdrawal failure are not the same thing.. a condom fails, you usually know because.. it breaks. Or because you're not wearing it yet. So you put a new one on and continue...which is why you always need a backup (But not in your damn wallet!)

Anyone else have SO's squeamish about sex during periods? I mean, sure, up the butt is apparently fine, but a little bit of blood grosses him out. Well, he is kind of a wuss, blood making him faint and all that. I think it must be the uterine chunks.


I've got no problems with it. Sure, it's a little odd to look down and see .. well, any blood or chunks of former unterine flesh on me, but.. it washes off, no big deal.
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Postby Jauss » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:09 pm UTC

@Twasbrillig: Truthfully, I know people that rely on fertility awareness methods, but here's the thing: It's a lot of work. The most reliable such method is a combination of all of them. She has to have pretty regular periods and chart them carefully. She has to take her temperature every morning for a while (or get one of those machines to do it) to see how it changes when she ovulates and then she has to continue to check it every morning. She has to analyze her cervical mucus everyday to see if it's fertile, soon to be fertile, or non-fertile. There has to be abstinence or a barrier method used for at least 1/3 of the month, and about 1/2 if you wanna be on the safe side. Even if you do all of that correctly and diligently there are no guarantees. If you do everything you're supposed to do there's between a 90%–99% of success depending on the source. If you aren't strict there's only around a 75% rate of success.

Basically, unless you're uber-committed and responsible and know what the hell you're doing (the highest success rates are from people who were taught by experts), don't even think about doing it. Personally, I think FAMs are best for couples who don't want kids yet, but wouldn't be hella devasted if they had one.

As for withdrawal...you're just asking for a whole mess o' babies.

Condoms, dude.
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Postby (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:10 pm UTC

I <3 This Thread.

Mighty Jalapeño, thank you for sharing your story with us. I'm glad that your wife is OK and you have two beautiful children to show off to the interblag. :-) Congratulations on your impending third!



Re: Makeup - Makeup is for big events. That's it. Otherwise I'm just the way I was made, give or take a few eyebrow hairs. I used to have really good skin so it didn't matter, but I think working in a city has made it worse... also smoking probably doesn't help... my pores have gotten a bit scary. But makeup like, reeks of effort.


Oh oh oh and regarding menstrual cycles, fertile times of the month, and such things:

PLEASE. DO. NOT. USE. THE RHYTHM METHOD.
Or just accept that you're going to be a parent soon.
It's just mildly disturbing to me that people actually use this as a method of contraception. It's not really contraception... it's guessing.
I track my cycles religiously with http://www.cyclespage.com. It's wonderful. I have a menstrual history dating back to 2004. But the days it tells me I should be ovulating... well quite often it's wrong. I can just tell because I have a pang or two of pain in my ovary.

Thanks to that wonderful pheromone thing I mentioned a page ago, our cycles are fluid and change wayyy to easily for me to trust this method.

Withdrawal? Also a bad idea. Honestly, my best friend has been using the withdrawal method for like, five years. She hasn't gotten pregnant yet. I'm not endorsing this method, I'm mentioning that because I'm starting to get really really worried that she's unfertile. She should have gotten pregnant by now. And she DOES want kids, soon. I will be devastated if she can't have them. But not as devastated as her. :?
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