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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby roband » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:58 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Seriously, I know I don't say this often, but I'm with roband.

When do we get our matching hats?

The only reason I said that is because this is the boy thread. Regardless of whether or not it's "right" to talk about it, ff you wanna discuss women's body hair, there's probably a better thread for it.

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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby addams » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:15 pm UTC

ok.. ok.
Come on, You Guys.

There must be Man Issues.
What?

What do men talk about?
What do men Not talk about?

There is the problem with this thread.
Men don't share personal information the way women do.

oh. Men get the job done.
But; It's a different process.

Aiming at different results, I suppose.
Women want to Look Good to other women.

Men want comfortable clothes that have all required status displays without being any more trouble than necessary.

Not all men want that.
Some are looking for the Perfect Tea Formal and pumps in size 13.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby roband » Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:15 am UTC

Fine addams.

I can't decide how much hair I'm willing to let disappear before I shave it all off.
It's not receding TOO much, but it is thinning considerably.

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Postby pseudoidiot » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:15 pm UTC

Ironic combover?
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby roband » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:26 pm UTC

Not sure I could pull it off.

When it gets a bit longer, I have started pushing it to one side though. I've never suited having hair longer than about an inch though - it starts to.. 'mushroom' at the sides.

In my blunderyears, it was shoulder length and dyed black :(

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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby doogly » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:32 pm UTC

roband wrote:Not sure I could pull it off.

Nobody can, this is the worst idea that has ever happened in this entire thread.
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Postby roband » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:23 pm UTC

Not even this guy?

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Postby doogly » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:59 pm UTC

LE4dGOLEM: What's a Doug?
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Keep waggling your butt brows Brothers.
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Postby SecondTalon » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:12 am UTC

For those not in FaiD, Doogly's link goes to a thread of nothing but NOPE images and animations.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby addams » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:24 am UTC

doogly wrote:
roband wrote:Not sure I could pull it off.

Nobody can, this is the worst idea that has ever happened in this entire thread.

No hair looks good, once a person gets used to it.

Some faces seem to need to be framed.
I don't know about mine.

I wore my hair an inch long.
I Liked It! I almost never looked at it.

It grew.
It gets in my eyes and it is getting weirder not better.

I saw a beautiful young woman that had done a delighful thing.
She had Peacock Feathers tattooed onto her head.

When she shaved her head, it was Art.
It took about a month for hair to cover it.

Oh! If you shave your head,
all of a sudden, it can be a bit weird.

Your head is likely to be very pale.
If your face is suntanned, you will look like a LightBulb.

ech. A hat fits better, stays put and does not leave Hat Head on a bald head.
Bald has a ton of advantages. All that hair is bothersome.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby Samik » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:09 am UTC

Since I've been alive, my grandfather has had one of those awful combovers. Just, really one of the worst you've ever seen. The Picard bald-on-top-but-solid-wrap-around, then the wrap-around grown out long on one side and combed over. And it's not even a remotely full combover - just a half dozen wispy threads that cover maybe 1/3 of the total top area.

The thing of it is this: for decades, I did not notice. No one ever brings it up, because he's had that style forever. So I was probably around 20 when I first heard someone mention his terrible do in passing. I stopped them, saying, "Wait, he doesn't have a.., a.....", and realization dawned.


Edit:
Yup. Pretty much exactly like this one.

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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby addams » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:30 am UTC

oh, My God!
Can anything be done to help him?

The Freedom of Bald can be his!
What a loving and kind thing to do.

Get matching hair cuts.

Something!
The poor man.

The only thing the little kids will know about him is his weird HairDon't.
He must have other qualities under that hair. Exume Them!

oh.
I have almost no opinion about My hair.
I give a shit about other people's hair.

I don't have to look at mine.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby addams » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:49 pm UTC

Hell-o Boys;
I still think Men have things to talk about.

The experience of coming home one day and finding You Don't Live Here, AnyMore.
That shit is Horrible. That shit is Hysterical.

Do you know about Larry.
How I Loved, Larry.

Larry is the guy that famously showed up at 2 o'clock in the morning.

A woman had moved into his place.
She got mad at him and threw him out.

She even had his Truck.
Low blow to take a man's Truck.

I loved Larry, because Larry was mostly innocent.
He had the funniest stories.

Larry went though a lot of Trucks.
Larry almost knew a few women, too.

Larry was not poor.
Even though a person might drop their head and say, "Poor Larry."

Larry was so funny,
The name Larry would make me laugh.

I am so stupid,
I wanted all Larrys to be like that Larry.

Have you ever talked to a man that had a woman clean him out?
Those can be Tragic Stories.

That shit happens to women, too.
Like rape is more common with the woman folk;
Getting cleaned out and sometimes emotionally abused is more common with the men folk.

Even Roommates and Friends are at Risk.
Human beings can be Horrible.

Human beings can be Delightful.
The victims tell some funny Stories.

I know it is hard to talk about.
That is why we talk about Larry.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:15 pm UTC

This may not really belong in the boy thread, but I've sustained a shoulder injury that may require surgery. I find myself having mild anxiety attacks at night at the idea of being incapable of using my body the way I want to.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:19 pm UTC

That sucks, man.

Serious (& semi-serious) injuries terrify the hell out of me.
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Postby addams » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:17 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:This may not really belong in the boy thread, but I've sustained a shoulder injury that may require surgery. I find myself having mild anxiety attacks at night at the idea of being incapable of using my body the way I want to.

That does belong in the Man's Thread.

What the Hell did you do?
When? In the last few days?

You, my darling, live in the 21st Century.
Shoulder injuries are common among humans.

There was a time when a shoulder injury on a young man could mean many years of pain, deformity and disability.

Sometimes that is still true.
If you have access to modern medical advice,
then you are, most likely, going to be fine.

If you go 'Under The Knife' as they say,
The 'Knife' will be in the hand of an expert.

Those guys can build you one out of Play-Dough.
They know what end of the Humerus is funny and what end is shoulder.

I am sorry you hurt your shoulder.
What is it like to type?

What is that easy and common shoulder injury?
It almost always looks like a bird's beak.

The tear in the cartilage looks like a bird's beak.
Eeek. I, just, freaked myself out.

Those look so painful.
The owners say they are.

oh, dear god;
you are heading toward the Alter and I was yammering on about The End, my friend.

oops.
Sorry.

ok. ok.
Men do conform to stereotypical behavior.
Men will not talk about it.

Women are all either in the Bathroom or in the Kitchen talking the Hell out of it.
Where are The Men?

oh. um.
Usually, outside.

Doing?
Not talking about it.

Well...If we hear breaking dishes, it might come up as a topic of conversation.
No sense talking about it if you don't have any ideas about fixing it.

Unlike a Tractor, women can't be fixed.

I know. I know.
Some women are not broken.
Do men stand in a knot, not talking about those women?

I am in a Mood.
The sun is shining.

I should force myself to go out and enjoy it, while I can.
Who knows? The bitch might decide to take that, too.

It is the little things sometimes.
Sometimes, it's the big shit.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:04 pm UTC

I'm not nervous about the surgery, at all; my first doctors appointment is next week, and I wish it was sooner. I'm uncomfortable being unable to go climbing. The last time I was in a cast I felt similarly, a frustration at being trapped. It sucks. Arms were meant for swinging on.
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Postby addams » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:07 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I'm not nervous about the surgery, at all; my first doctors appointment is next week, and I wish it was sooner. I'm uncomfortable being unable to go climbing. The last time I was in a cast I felt similarly, a frustration at being trapped. It sucks. Arms were meant for swinging on.

Poor Monkey.
Are they going to have to put a Cone on you?

No pictures, yet?
What did you do?
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Postby Quercus » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:04 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I'm not nervous about the surgery, at all; my first doctors appointment is next week, and I wish it was sooner. I'm uncomfortable being unable to go climbing. The last time I was in a cast I felt similarly, a frustration at being trapped. It sucks. Arms were meant for swinging on.


As a fellow climber that does indeed suck. One tip I got from a friend of mine who is a semi-pro dancer with shoulder issues, also possibly needing surgery (although she's managed to avoid it so far), is to make very clear to the doctor/surgeon that your climbing is an important part of your life, and it's important to you that you can get back to doing that as soon as safely possible. Also, demonstrate (with the other arm) the sort of movements you need to make with your shoulder while climbing, so they know what sort of function they need to be working towards with surgery and/or physiotherapy. If you can see a doctor who has experience treating athletes (of any type) that's ideal - it makes these sort of conversations much easier. I know my friend got a substantially different (and more intense) physiotherapy regime, and I think was recommended a slightly different surgery, when her doctor and physiotherapist knew that they needed to be aiming for a seriously athletic level of function rather than simply an acceptable level of function for normal activities.

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Postby addams » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:18 pm UTC

I still want to know How you did it.
I'm not all that nosey.

I like a good laugh.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:23 pm UTC

Quercus wrote:One tip I got...
That is really solid advice, I'll be sure to discuss it. The surgeon I'm seeing is in sports medicine, and when I contacted him after the referral and described the injury, he responded along the lines of 'Whoa, awesome, lets get you back to fighting shape!', which I find quite reassuring. But yeah, I will be sure to mention what I expect out of the recovery, thanks for the pointer. "So, I want to be able to do a one armed muscle up, think you can soup this shoulder up? Trick it out, add a drink holder?"

@addams, I'm beginning to wonder if you either enjoy hearing about me suffer, or are convinced I only hurt myself in humorous ways...

You may recall my description of my personal badass moment in the Spartan Race, wherein I managed to solo clear a wall meant for teams? Yeah. It really is meant for teams, evidently.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby Shro » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:41 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I find myself having mild anxiety attacks at night at the idea of being incapable of using my body the way I want to.

Now imagine having a uterus.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:48 pm UTC

I find myself... intrigued at the new toys on the playground? Dismayed the tireswing is gone. Wondering why I"VE STABBED MYSELF ON THE SKYBRIDGES EXPOSED NAILS WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO MAKE IT LIKE THAT?!
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Postby bigglesworth » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:03 pm UTC

Now imagine taking a hat, and putting it on your butt.
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Postby Quercus » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:40 pm UTC

Shro wrote:
Izawwlgood wrote:I find myself having mild anxiety attacks at night at the idea of being incapable of using my body the way I want to.

Now imagine having a uterus.


A uterus doesn't (usually) stop you climbing, I know this because I once stumbled upon a very long and detailed thread on a climbing forum on exactly how it doesn't have to stop you climbing. :shock:

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Postby doogly » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:45 pm UTC

How long could that possibly be? It seems fairly straightforward.
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Postby Quercus » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:52 pm UTC

doogly wrote:How long could that possibly be? It seems fairly straightforward.


I just googled the thread. It's up to 76 posts (okay, so very long may have been exaggerating for comedic effect). I found post number 3 quite amusing.

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Postby bigglesworth » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:04 pm UTC

doogly wrote:How long could that possibly be? It seems fairly straightforward.
This quote is why the boy thread is 356 pages long and Girl thread is 677 pages long.
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Postby Sungura » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:11 pm UTC

Quercus wrote:
doogly wrote:How long could that possibly be? It seems fairly straightforward.


I just googled the thread. It's up to 76 posts (okay, so very long may have been exaggerating for comedic effect). I found post number 3 quite amusing.

That post is win, indeed.

But I get what Shro was saying (I think...she can correct me if I'm wrong), some (re: many) women deal with shitty uterus issues /every fucking month/ that do physically make it extremely difficult if not impossible to do things, especially physical activity. So it's like having a quarter of your life being trapped in your own body, with no end until menopause, and then it's a different type of trapped until ya get passed it. I wish I was with izzawlgood about the shoulder surgery not being worried, because I'd love to get rid of my stupid uterus, but the surgery scares me. (despite finally finding a surgeon after looking around for a few years who would do it) ("i'm too young" according to most, to make such important life decisions that prevent future baby-making!)

As to rock climbing in particular, I have little experience as the climbing I do is different (single rope technique), but it is climbing nontheless, and it is very hard to get on rope during shark week as a harness (and really any sort of movement other than curled up in bed) exacerbate the cramping and pain for me. I hate hate hate not being able to be physical when I want to be. It sucks being trapped in your own body. I completely 100% agree it is one of the most awful feelings I deal with too. I don't know if it helps but sometimes it helps me (other times I tell myself to shut up), "this will pass." Hrm maybe I talk to myself too much.
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Postby doogly » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:15 pm UTC

bigglesworth wrote:
doogly wrote:How long could that possibly be? It seems fairly straightforward.
This quote is why the boy thread is 356 pages long and Girl thread is 677 pages long.
We're also just more stoic / laconic.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:25 pm UTC

Question: Should I use 5 mm or 6 mm accessory cord?

Heh, that is full of win.

Sungura wrote:So it's like having a quarter of your life being trapped in your own body, with no end until menopause, and then it's a different type of trapped until ya get passed it.
I get that, and the point that was being made, but an obvious counter point is that shark week is one week out of a month, while lasting injuries are forever. Or, you know, until they get better, either by healing or surgery. After I took an arrow to the knee... wompwomp.
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Postby Quercus » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:36 pm UTC

doogly wrote:
bigglesworth wrote:
doogly wrote:How long could that possibly be? It seems fairly straightforward.
This quote is why the boy thread is 356 pages long and Girl thread is 677 pages long.
We're also just more stoic / laconic.


And quite a lot of us (myself included) are socially conditioned to not discuss our problems/feelings and just suck it up, which is often kinda problematic (e.g. many men get really, really late diagnoses of things like cancer because they simply won't go and see a doctor for anything which can possibly be ignored). Edit: It appears that this is actually not supported by evidence. At least in the one study I can find men and women delay seeing a doctor to the same extent. See my post below for details (made 1st September).

Sungura wrote:
But I get what Shro was saying (I think...she can correct me if I'm wrong), some (re: many) women deal with shitty uterus issues /every fucking month/ that do physically make it extremely difficult if not impossible to do things, especially physical activity.


I totally get what she's saying too, at least on an empathetic level (I lack the requisite organs to get it on a personal level*). That's why I qualified my post with "usually" (and my apologies if the number of women with such issues is greater than I had thought), for you and others with "stupid uteri" there is indeed major suckage. I've probably been affected by uterus issues more than most blokes - my grandmother who I was very close to had a rare type of uterine tumour misdiagnosed as fibroids for years, which caused her serious pain and ultimately she died of metastases secondary to this; and my mother had serious complications after giving birth to me which ultimately led to an emergency hysterectomy and meant I grew up an only child even though my mother really wanted (and had planned for) more children.


*Although I have heard bad menstrual pain/cramps compared to being continuously kicked in the bollocks for a week and if that's at all accurate, that really, really sucks.


P.S. This hasn't really happened yet, but I can potentially see this thread degenerating into health issue top trumps, which is not really a useful direction to go in. I'm sure none of us would do that intentionally, but I know I'm having to be careful to avoid sounding like that, so I think an explicit nudge away from that direction is not a bad idea.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby addams » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:42 pm UTC

Jeeze.
This is the Boy Thread.

We don't have to think about bleeding for a week.
We are ok with sucking it up for a day, maybe two.

If we can't stop the bleeding with pressure and the Trendelenburg.
We want to think, "This shit might be Serious."

This shit is serious.
Men's issues are often simply human issues.
Except for a few little advantages men have.

Men can piss standing up.
I know women Can piss standing up.

Men need to practice.
Women need to practice, more.

Men don't start Bleeding for no apparent reason.
Let's step into the Woman's thread for that.

Men bleed and when they do;
Amazingly, in my experience, they don't want everyone in the waiting room Looking.

Well...Unless it is a Manly-Manly bleed.
Like an honorable Gunshot Wound to the Deltoid.

"Look! Ma! It's a flesh wound!"

I am sorry, Izawwood;
No. I don't want you to suffer.
I don't even know you.

But. But; but, You are funny and many injuries of the extraordinarily fit are hysterical.
Normal people can't do those things.

Izswood; Beyond the laughter we have been enriched by your posts.
You bitching about your father may be good for you. I love to giggle.

The relationship between a man and his father is an important relationship.
A woman may be Daddy's Little Girl all of her life.

Most men have a different destination.
How boys become men needs to be 'Outed'.

So many men are not taking the Train to Manhood.
Men that are on that Train can tell us about it.

It might help us all guide one another.
Men do not PoP! out of the Box, as Men.

Any Man that is doing it anywhere near correctly,
Is putting some fucking effort into it.

I'd like to hear from them.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby bigglesworth » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:45 pm UTC

Quercus wrote:And quite a lot of us (myself included) are socially conditioned to not discuss our problems/feelings and just suck it up, which is often kinda problematic (e.g. many men get really, really late diagnoses of things like cancer because they simply won't go and see a doctor for anything which can possibly be ignored).
Though this also means men get far fewer unnecessary surgeries. There are a lot of conditions that people die with rather than of.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby addams » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:54 pm UTC

bigglesworth wrote:
Quercus wrote:And quite a lot of us (myself included) are socially conditioned to not discuss our problems/feelings and just suck it up, which is often kinda problematic (e.g. many men get really, really late diagnoses of things like cancer because they simply won't go and see a doctor for anything which can possibly be ignored).
Though this also means men get far fewer unnecessary surgeries. There are a lot of conditions that people die with rather than of.

There we go.
Yes! Thank you.

Now we can all wander around looking at our shoes for a while.
Men don't go in complaining over every little thing.

What??
Does that body have feeling??

Is it better to live a full, interesting and honorable life?
Than?

Than, Never eat another Cheese Burger, Fries and Shake!
Maybe for you it's Pizza and Beer.

Loads of men will go to the Doctor one time a year, like clock work.
Check the oil; Rotate the tires.

What more do we expect?
Rectal temperature readings three times a day charted over 3 months?
What the Hell for?
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby Quercus » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:24 pm UTC

addams wrote:Men's issues are often simply human issues.
Except for a few little advantages men have.


While this is true in lots of ways, and I absolutely accept that men have a great amount of social privilege stretching back throughout much of history, I actually really don't find the overall sentiment of this to be very helpful. Specifically, this is because men do have issues which are specific to men, and those issues can be serious. A few that come to mind:

  • The expectation of emotional toughness mentioned above, which easily segues into emotional repression.
  • The expectation of traditional masculinity, with bullying and violence directed at those who don't conform to this (this is often connected with homophobia, but it is distinct as it doesn't really depend on actual sexual orientation)
  • The expectation and normalization of male violence
  • The glorification of male promiscuity, and lack of acceptance of people who don't want that (being a male virgin over the age of 20 was regarded as sufficiently shameful in my circles that when I fitted into this category I would habitually pretend I wasn't a virgin to avoid ridicule).
  • I can't remember where I read this, but I think it was somewhere fairly reliable - due to traditional gender roles at least among the current elderly generation, men cope a lot worse with being alone due to bereavement than women do (mainly due to a lack of appropriate support structures - after "bar going" age women are the traditional social hub of the household).


addams wrote:Men bleed and when they do;
Amazingly, in my experience, they don't want everyone in the waiting room Looking.

Well...Unless it is a Manly-Manly bleed.
Like an honorable Gunshot Wound to the Deltoid.

"Look! Ma! It's a flesh wound!"


That's a slightly unfortunate generalization - sure, I'll be stoic as long as I have to be (until I get myself sorted out and off to the hospital for example), but once I don't need to be doing anything to resolve the situation what I chiefly want is a hug and some sympathy, not to either hide my injury or boast about it.



addams wrote:Any Man that is doing it anywhere near correctly,
Is putting some fucking effort into it.


Now that we can agree on, although I'd venture to generalise that to any person who is doing it anywhere near correctly, Is putting some fucking effort into it.

bigglesworth wrote:
Quercus wrote:And quite a lot of us (myself included) are socially conditioned to not discuss our problems/feelings and just suck it up, which is often kinda problematic (e.g. many men get really, really late diagnoses of things like cancer because they simply won't go and see a doctor for anything which can possibly be ignored).
Though this also means men get far fewer unnecessary surgeries. There are a lot of conditions that people die with rather than of.


True, although I've also seen the flipside - men dying slowly and painfully from metastases when they could have been cured with a simple surgery if they'd seen a doctor when they first noticed blood in their stool/urine or a lump on their testicle. My grandfather is a case in point - he ignored his symptoms for six months, until my mother and grandmother ganged up on him and bullied him into seeing a doctor. He was diagnosed with a particularly aggressive form of prostate cancer, which by that point was too far advanced for surgery. He went from being able to run 5 miles a day at 80, to barely being able to get out of a chair at 82.

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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby addams » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:22 am UTC

That is a wonderful list, Quercus.
It is by no means exhaustive.

  • The expectation of emotional toughness mentioned above, which easily segues into emotional repression.
  • The expectation of traditional masculinity, with bullying and violence directed at those who don't conform to this (this is often connected with homophobia, but it is distinct as it doesn't really depend on actual sexual orientation)
  • The expectation and normalization of male violence.
  • The glorification of male promiscuity, and lack of acceptance of people who don't want that.
  • I can't remember where I read this, but I think it was somewhere fairly reliable - due to traditional gender roles at least among the current elderly generation, men cope a lot worse with being alone due to bereavement than women do (mainly due to a lack of appropriate support structures - after "bar going" age women are the traditional social hub of the household).

Not every man has every obstacle.
Every man has some.

We are all affected by how men address each one of those issues.
Each one is a significant obstacle.

So easy for some men.
So, damn, hard for others.

Most men are out in the middle.
Scoring 2 for 1 most of the time.

I have no idea how the Scoring on Manhood works.
It seems to be a personal Scoring System.

Yet; Men that score high seem to recognize one another.
How does that work? Boy ESP?
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby bachaddict » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:28 am UTC

addams wrote:Jeeze.
This is the Boy Thread.
-snip-
"The relationship between a man and his father is an important relationship.
A woman may be Daddy's Little Girl all of her life.

Most men have a different destination.
How boys become men needs to be 'Outed'.

So many men are not taking the Train to Manhood.
Men that are on that Train can tell us about it.

It might help us all guide one another.
Men do not PoP! out of the Box, as Men.

Any Man that is doing it anywhere near correctly,
Is putting some fucking effort into it.

I'd like to hear from them.

You have discovered something very important here.
Boys do not become men as easily as girls become women.
I don't mean physically, but mentally.
Many men still feel like a boy when they are sending their daughter off to prom.
It is the father who draws out the man in his son.
Knowing you are a man means knowing you have responsibility.

A question for the men here: at what point did you feel like you were a man?
slinches wrote:Also, the OTC isn't a disease. In fact, it's the cure. As we all know, Time heals all wounds.

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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby bigglesworth » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:51 am UTC

On the contrary, I think boys become men by default by acting on their own in the public sphere.

It is the girl => woman issue that gets drawn out and is complicated.

See the Mademoiselle => Madame messy boundaries - or the Miss/Ms/Mrs differences.
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Re: Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

Postby bachaddict » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:45 am UTC

When were you able to say "I am a man", biggles?
Everybody's story is different, but many are similar.
slinches wrote:Also, the OTC isn't a disease. In fact, it's the cure. As we all know, Time heals all wounds.

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