Boy Thread: put a hat on ur butt

[Thunderbird4!]

In response to tessuraea and the ladder theory at the same time I neither desire to have nor feel pressure to have sex with anyone now or in the past. However, this is the direct result of me being truly in love with a girl and therefore not wanting to have sex with someone else and simultaneously not wanting to have sex with her because in my opinion neither of us are ready for it (though if she came to me and asked me if I wanted to I'd say yes, after being terribly confused).

[TigerX]

re:tessuraea

You seem to like to champion the idea that human sexuality is complicated. I don't disagree... :-)

I never felt the need to express myself sexually from the time I was in Jr. High until my 3rd year in college. It just simply wasn't something that I was interesting in pursuing.

But things changed as they often do.

[Bakemaster]

I can't think of anything to add at the moment, tessuraea. Your introspective guy friends seem to have given you some pretty accuracte information.

Well, I guess one thing I'll add is that in general I want love more than I want sex. I also want sex, but that's hugely connected to wanting love; I consider it kind of a package deal (pardon the pun). I know a lot of people think that's silly or unfortunate or obsolete, and to be honest it does have a lot to do with fear, but that's not something I need to apologize for. I'm a hopeless romantic and very stubborn about it.

[tessuraea]

Thanks for responding, guys.

Along the same line (and based on what Castaway said), I've known a lot of guys who thought they wanted to be with two women at once until they were and didn't like it. They wanted it because they were supposed to, I think.

Yes, in at least one of those cases, I was one of the women. *thinks* In a few of those cases. Then I got better at making sure everyone had the same understanding of what was going on and really wanted to be there.

Sorry for making this all about sex. I do think about other things. Mostly I think it's because male sexuality is interesting to me and it's something a lot of guys don't feel comfortable discussing with me.

You can all tell me to go away if you like, or just ignore me.

[misskwiz]

This thread makes me want to be a normal guy so I could respond with useful information.

Oh oh, maybe I could ask questions too...

...

Can't think of any though.

I've known a lot of guys who thought they wanted to be with two women at once until they were and didn't like it.

Wait what? A lot of guys actually got that far? Unless you mean cheating.

[pollywog]

Along the same line (and based on what Castaway said), I've known a lot of guys who thought they wanted to be with two women at once until they were and didn't like it. They wanted it because they were supposed to, I think.

I didn't think about it ever, and then it happened once, and it was fun for all involved, so now it happens once or twice a week. But it does take some getting used to.

[YeahThatGuy]

Along the same line (and based on what Castaway said), I've known a lot of guys who thought they wanted to be with two women at once until they were and didn't like it. They wanted it because they were supposed to, I think.

I always assumed that in their minds, the "guys" who always fantasized about threesomes always followed the logic:
threesome=more women=more boobies=more fun!

Personally, I never understood it. But then, I also never understood why guys like lesbians so much. Nowhere in that sort of equation is there "male". But I guess it's the same logic as above. Or I could be completely wrong.

Sages of the great XKCD forums, please fill me with the knowledge that I lack of my own "kind".



Also: I am a spambot. Buy my Viagra.

[tessuraea]

I've known a lot of guys who thought they wanted to be with two women at once until they were and didn't like it.

Wait what? A lot of guys actually got that far? Unless you mean cheating.

Nope, not cheating, just threesomes. And yeah, I mean, "a lot" is relative. But quite a few... it's not that hard to find a third, if you're a couple that's interested. Depending on what you're looking for and how picky you are.

[Dark Ragnarok]

Along the same line (and based on what Castaway said), I've known a lot of guys who thought they wanted to be with two women at once until they were and didn't like it. They wanted it because they were supposed to, I think.

I always assumed that in their minds, the "guys" who always fantasized about threesomes always followed the logic:
threesome=more women=more boobies=more fun!

Personally, I never understood it. But then, I also never understood why guys like lesbians so much. Nowhere in that sort of equation is there "male". But I guess it's the same logic as above. Or I could be completely wrong.

Sages of the great XKCD forums, please fill me with the knowledge that I lack of my own "kind".



Also: I am a spambot. Buy my Viagra.

do you ever notice where guys can like lesbians, girls can like gays?

Given i go to anime conventions where 80% of the girls watch or love yaoi.... i think in general it seems to work both ways. But not entirely.

[TheKhakinator]

Just thinking about that ladder theory... is there some definitive way to NOT be stuck on the "friends" thing?

[Jesse]

I have said before, I do not agree with the ladder theory at all. I always assumed I was anormal when it came to sexual desire. I grew up watching sex destroy my father's life. He couldn't be faithful to any significant other, causing three of them to leave him; he had to flee the country for being a pedophile, it just completely destroyed him.

So I've never been able tp place that much stock in sex. Yeah, it is fun sometimes, but I neither obsess over it nor do I consider most of my female friends in that context. There are some I do, which is a good thing, but there are just as many that I don't consider for sex and would turn down if they asked me. I think another part of it may be that I form strong bonds with friends, often treating them like family, so my desire to be caring and brotherly often removes the sex desire completely.

[Oort]

So this the guys' hangout, right?

Okay, I hope you guys have seen the new Die Hard movie. If you haven't, WATCH IT. It's the best piece of cinema since... well, Die Hard 3. Afterwards, sneak into Transformers, just because... well, I liked it.

QFT. Those are easily the best movies I've seen in the past two weeks.

[pi-3 orionis]

I don't think its possible to take serisously an idea that is presented using such words as "bitch, whore, and fuck". Maybe if it was presented a bit more proffessionally I might be able to take it more seriously. Also, citations needed (besides the "OH yeah, lots of studies have been done.")

[TigerX]

I don't think its possible to take serisously an idea that is presented using such words as "bitch, whore, and fuck". Maybe if it was presented a bit more proffessionally I might be able to take it more seriously. Also, citations needed (besides the "OH yeah, lots of studies have been done.")

I'm not sure that I completely follow your line of commentary here... Who are you talking to?

[Sprocket]

People are people so why should it be that you and I should get along so awfully? I also think I just started to understand why a group was called "feminists" with the intention of gaining equality between the sexes. Femininity is not an inherently female thing. It's a set of qualities stereotypically associated with females, but I think the idea may have been (and this is on a theory) that the world needed to embrace more feminine ideology (which exists within us all) not actually do thing the way women do them.

[Sprocket]

This thread makes me want to be a normal guy so I could respond with useful information.

Oh oh, maybe I could ask questions too...

...

Can't think of any though.

I've known a lot of guys who thought they wanted to be with two women at once until they were and didn't like it.

Wait what? A lot of guys actually got that far? Unless you mean cheating.

Ok then, tell us exactly how normal you think you aren't.

[Weasel]

Okay, so I've only encountered two groups of guys really.

Camp Guys. And South Geeks guys.

The guys at camp LOVED to be naked. They would be naked ALL the time. Sit around watching TV in the camp lounge or playing fuzball, or whatever naked.
The South Geek guys (geeks in Louisiana and Texas) are always all "WTF" when I tell them that. And that obviously they're all gay (it WAS a boyscout camp*).

Soo...
Nakedness? Is it only acceptable when a girl is there? Or is it manly to be naked?

Also.
What IS it with Guys and Big things and Blowing Shit Up? Seriously.


* no, I love boyscouts. <3 My dad and brother are Eagles, so all teasing are done in jest, from me. And I was at the camp working as a Handicraft leader last summer.

[TheKhakinator]

Also.
What IS it with Guys and Big things and Blowing Shit Up? Seriously.
leader last summer.

But what is it with girls and flowers and pink stuff? Here's a clue: They're both generalisations. Though on the other hand, I *do* <3 blowing shit up.

[pollywog]

I spend half of my life with less clothes than I should, but I'm not often naked. If it's too hot, I'll go topless, but I always wear jeans. Like if I'm in a picture theater, the mall, a shop, whatever, I'll be ok taking my shirt off. If I'm buying a shirt, which is not often, I'll just try it on in the store, becasue I can't be bothered going into the changing room. Jeans is manlier than nude. Except when swimming. I almost never swim with clothes on. Clothes are unmanly when swimming, especially around females. And if no one else is around, or if it's just me and the gf's, I'll probably not be wearing much anyway.

[Weasel]

Also.
What IS it with Guys and Big things and Blowing Shit Up? Seriously.
leader last summer.

But what is it with girls and flowers and pink stuff? Here's a clue: They're both generalisations. Though on the other hand, I *do* <3 blowing shit up.

I guess I should have included "For the guys that like this kind of thing". It was in my head! I swear! lol.

[__Kit]

I was hoping this thread didn't get made. O well what are we gonna talk about *reads through thread*

[the human perl script]

Anyway, what features do you like in a girl?

Physical fitness, free of deformities, and an intelligent mind with a decent sense of morality.
Beyond that, I don't see how anything good can come from narrowing down to specific colors, sizes and shapes.

[TRM]

I have a topic.

Do you guys dribble or shoot when you cum?

Personally I tend to dribble more than I shoot, though I have on ocassion managed to shoot pretty far distances after prolonged periods of not masturbating.

[Dark Ragnarok]

The ladder theory makes me think about an essay a guy wrote called "Nice guys always finish last."

When reading through the ladder theory it definitely reminded me of a couple girls in mind. The whole context of the page got me angry. Sure it makes sense if you wanted to believe all girls are bitches. But, you'd have to be one dimensional to only see that.

That guy also reminds me of a quote from Elfen Lied...

"When people are unhappy, they seek other who are unhappier to make themselves feel better" (more or less how it goes)

If the guy really believed that crap, he never found help or a way around it, and found it more "constructive" to create a hate based system for why things don't work in your favor to attack the situation that a guy will most likely encounter in his life at least once. (Or so i feel)

I can say right now I'm in a situation where i feel the girl acts like that, but that same girl walked out of her house to tell me before left back home 1000 miles away. and it was only an hour till i was going to leave.




Seriously, the ladder theory is complete utter horse shit

[damienthebloody]

The last person I recall linking to ladder theory in the fora was Roffle. I think that says plenty.

For those who weren't here for that, well, just understand that ladder theory is essentially garbage.

As far as feeling pressured into wanting sex is concerned...I don't think I've ever needed pressure for that. I even worried as a teenager that maybe my libido was a bit high. But there might well be guys who are pretending to be more of a sex-maniac, so to speak, than they really are.

threesomes - i've never heard back from anyone who has said that it was awesome and they wished they could do it again. only from people who have said "um...welll...it was kinda awkward, really". Still, sometimes I can't help but think it might be fun - just would really depend on what sort of relationships existed among the 3.

[solarchem]

Wow, lots of stuff to comment on.

First, the ladder theory is just ass. I've known people for whom this is true, but it's hardly universal. If you have so little control over your sex drive that you can't stop trying to bang your friends...well, I feel sorry for you.

The male fascination with threesomes it a bit overblown. Other guys look at you funny if you say you're not interested, so most people act like it would be the greatest thing ever, even if they don't really care. Personally, I don't think they're all that much different then 'normal' sex. There is nothing better in this world than a naked woman, so we think 2 women must be mind-blowingly good. Truth is the increase is not exponential with each naked woman added (but we think it will be). If anything it's too distracting.

Naked men? Just wrong. The guys at my gym walk around the lounge area of the locker room naked all the time, even sitting on the sofa and watching TV. Really, the last thing I need is your sweaty, post-workout sack on something I might want to use later. My experience has been the more liberal the environ (read: earthy-crunchy) the more male nudity.

And having worked one summer setting explosives at a quarry, let me assure you that there is no better way to spend the day than by blowin' shit up. Fuck yeah.

[PS_Mouse]

Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt.
Why have they not been in a movie together?

[MordorIsBad]

Do you guys dribble or shoot when you cum?

Strangely enough, the first thought trough my mind when I read this was: "What does cumming have to do with football?"

I guess that is a commentary in itself on the truthfullness of the stereotyped male.

And as to the question.. mostly dribble, though I have surprised myself, and those occasions have been messy.

Also

Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt.
Why have they not been in a movie together?

That would be guaranteed awesome.

[chrispy1]

anyone else here have (or had) issues because you weren't a "normal" guy?

I always felt inadequate (and still do, in some cases) because the guys I know around me always talk about sex, drinking, cars, etc. Um, I've been with 2 women sexually, and one is my wife. I don't drink, and I think cars are meant for one purpose only - A -> B (or in my case, A>B>C>D>B>C LOL). So just wondering if anyone else is/has gone through this.

I do, however, love bacon. I have tried a number of times to bread and deep fry it, but have not found a good breading yet.

[TheKhakinator]

anyone else here have (or had) issues because you weren't a "normal" guy?

I always felt inadequate (and still do, in some cases) because the guys I know around me always talk about sex, drinking, cars, etc. Um, I've been with 2 women sexually, and one is my wife. I don't drink, and I think cars are meant for one purpose only - A -> B (or in my case, A>B>C>D>B>C LOL). So just wondering if anyone else is/has gone through this.

I do, however, love bacon. I have tried a number of times to bread and deep fry it, but have not found a good breading yet.

Bacon is truly the food of the gods. And deep frying rocks too. I hadn't thought to combine the two... I must buy a deep fryer soon and start experimenting. Cars rock, but I'm not obsessed, and I wonder what the deal with drinking is with the kids these days.

[prime]

Anyway, what features do you like in a girl?

Similar interests. I would love to meet a girl who was smarter than me (math/science) and had a great personality (and pretty). That would basically be instant win. Being amazing at piano or violin is good too.

Also, long discussions on stuff like morals and death are mandatory.

[the human perl script]

the kids these days

Grandpa alert.

Anyway, what features do you like in a girl?

Similar interests

Just about everyone says this, myself included. But is it slightly narcissistic?

[TheKhakinator]

Anyway, what features do you like in a girl?

Similar interests. I would love to meet a girl who was smarter than me (math/science) and had a great personality (and pretty). That would basically be instant win. Being amazing at piano or violin is good too.

Also, long discussions on stuff like morals and death are mandatory.

LOL I know someone like that.

the kids these days

Grandpa alert.

I say it because I'm young, so it's out-of-character for me to say it.

[prime]

Similar interests

Just about everyone says this, myself included. But is it slightly narcissistic?

Basically, I love opinions. Which is why I forum-lurk.

[TheKhakinator]

the kids these days

Grandpa alert.

Anyway, what features do you like in a girl?

Similar interests

Just about everyone says this, myself included. But is it slightly narcissistic?

Why would you want to be with someone that likes to go to candle factories when you want to go to a video game convention? I'm not saying it's necessary, but usually it helps to have something in common on some level, unless you like listening to them talk about stuff you're not interested in.

[Toeofdoom]

Maybe its because its 1 am, but the ladder theory thing is fucking hilarious.

It doesnt seem very accurate, but its still comedy.

[chrispy1]

Me, I fell in love with a woman that has very different tastes. But that's what makes it so great - we always have something to talk about, because I have *no* clue about what she does as a job (she's a transportation engineer, I'm a computer geek), she likes different books, movies, music, etc. Added bonus - when combining all our stuff, we hardly had any duplicates.

[TheKhakinator]

Replace "have sex with" with "go out with" and it sums up all the "just friends" stuff I've had.

[prime]

Me, I fell in love with a woman that has very different tastes. But that's what makes it so great - we always have something to talk about, because I have *no* clue about what she does as a job (she's a transportation engineer, I'm a computer geek), she likes different books, movies, music, etc. Added bonus - when combining all our stuff, we hardly had any duplicates.

Yeah, different tastes can be good too! It's all good if you are in love.

[Belial]

The last person I recall linking to ladder theory in the fora was Roffle. I think that says plenty.

I *knew* there was a reason this was inspiring feelings of hate.

Re Threesomes: Umm. Guess I'm in the minority here when I say I still think it would be a good idea. In stark divergence from the "standard" (stereotypical) male attitude, though, I'll say that either configuration (FMF, MFM) has its merits.