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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:42 pm UTC

Chen wrote:I think priority for things now is going to be:
1) Guild agreements (since these take FOREVER). If you can spy and do commerce, getting these will help. I'm doing the Criminal favors right now with my main and alt (producing gems). I've been updating the spreadsheet with the amount of favors I have so that we don't waste time on it. If others are specifically taking care of other agreements maybe just add a note in the spreadsheet. A new Festival will be up in about 4 days, so if people could get on the ones we have now too it'd help (3 of each agreements is very nice).

2) Boulders, trunks, monoliths and beams. My alt is extracting boulders. Biliboy is cutting trunks and beams. We need a total of 100 beams (20 Norstrian frames) and 40 monoliths (20 Megalithic foundations). Soeman had made a post about what type of castle we should make. Getting up to 11 accommodation is easy (can be done with slate which can be obtained via commerce). If we want 12 it looks like we need to make the towers out of either sandstone or acacia. Not sure which would be quicker.

3) Deva currently has a character on getting the Runic artifact fragments. We're at 200 of the 1000 we need. I think the estimate was about 2 more months of that one character doing it. That's probably sufficient, considering how long it will take us to needing those (there's another 50 academic agreements that are needed for that festival).

4) Save your high end logs and whatever fish you have for the fish festival. It needs a bunch.

5) Get your characters into Norstria. The temples can only be built there and that means building giantyards to cut giant trees and a shipyard make the beams, walls and foundations for the temple. Again this is pretty long term. But Norstria has some pretty neat content anyways, so its worthwhile.

Hoard Lithosnow too.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:15 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Woo diplomat! I think I'll be picking up Spying now.

If anyone is on the fence for being able to extract or cut, I can get kry pick and lumberjack axes (45) for guild use. Though I'm basically out of kryanbor nuggets now (and still no kryamane recipe :( )


If you're going to do spying tasks do them in Halmvik in Norstria. 2-6 yield there instead of the 1-4 (I think) yield in Maliken (and even lower in Hawkeria). No military favors in Halmvik though.

Deva wrote:Hoard Lithosnow too.


True. Hold onto Lithosnow since we need 200 towers made out of it for the Shipyard in Norstria. That said, they just made a blog post about opening up Tarasquan (the swamp between Lanfar and Norstria) in a patch coming out in late December, which will be an alternate way of getting into Norstria. If that makes it possible to transport materials from Hawkeria/Lanfar to Norstria directly (things like beams/frames) we may not need to build a shipyard in Norstria. Course moving all those frames would be disastrously long, but it still might be better than needing 6000 lithosnow blocks.

I've been farming the west lab in Norstria and you get around 1-2 lithosnow stone/blocks per fight (along with oceanite and other stone stuff). Problem is the fights can be get long and even in good harnois you take a beating (5 monsters all with 60% reduced damage can take a while).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:04 am UTC

I'm going to fill the kryanod order and then get to spying. Do we have a stock of cut gems in the guildhall?
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:33 am UTC

The sandstone factory has the gems.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:37 am UTC

I'm a terrible spy that I didn't realize that.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Biliboy » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:05 am UTC

I'm going to start leveling my alts prospecting, to hopefully help out with the krya. Is it possible to get to the required level with a T2 prospector, or will I need a t3?

Also, Biliboy finished hiring a conspirator. 25 defiance is hefty, but I found I can have my boar, gaspard, cerry and yraen as the combat team, with the conspirator as my defense stat buff, with 0.5 authority to spare. He's got some nice defenses, mine rolled low but 40/35/37 is still better than even gaspard.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:14 am UTC

Biliboy wrote:Is it possible to get to the required level with a T2 prospector, or will I need a t3?


I can do that with Wojtek; mine has 32 prospection which is like the poorest T2.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:41 pm UTC

Recall you need Den access to be able to mine Kryanite. My metal alt is working their way to it, I need to finish Elisime now but haven't gotten around to it.

If you're doing spying/commerce tasks make a note on the spreadsheet which ones you're working on. No sense in overkilling it. I think a lot of the spying gems got removed from the storage from what I can see. My alt has been busy keeping me in gems to do the criminal favors. Once I'm done with that I'll start cutting some of the others again too. Also keep in mind there are 6 of each agreement (4 military) coming from the two festivals that will get completed. We're out of hare meat though so if anyone sees it for sale or has a ton of dead hares or such please get it and put it in the bank. I bought enough boar meat to fully cover 1 festival so I think we're also a bit short of that. I have an order for 20k firewood coming in too, but that means we're still about 10k short for the second festival.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Drumheller769 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:49 pm UTC

I can get hares for meat. Is it worth it to cut like elm, or pine, or cedar logs to get firewood?
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby jjl2357 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:37 pm UTC

Cut maple. You can always sell those since they'll be in high demand for steel. Cedar in particular is not very useful because it's easier to get planks with commerce.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Drumheller769 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:21 pm UTC

110 rabbits in progress.

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100 hare meat and hopefully 150 more firewood will be in guild hall later today 4PM-5PM EST.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:24 pm UTC

Cool sounds good. If you need more blades or anything to cut hares let me know. Need another 650 after that 100 I believe.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:30 pm UTC

I am working on military agreements; whenever I am not doing any personal project that is.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby CorruptUser » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:38 am UTC

Dumped 550 hares and 6k firewood in guild.

Anyway, anyone else having issues with the game client? If I go to a different tab, and go back, game freezes. Can't select anything.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:25 am UTC

I don't have this problem, except when idle for much more than ten minutes. But then it's generally an other window, and probably a different bug from yours.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:12 pm UTC

Hares and firewood have been put towards the festival. Thank you.

New festival mandates are also in so basically we'll have 2 that will finish once we have all the components. I've started on the clandestine guild agreements. Looks like I can get through 2 per day (~20ish hours using regen pots). With the two festivals I believe I have enough favors/agreements to finish off the clandestine ones. We're making some decent progress on the others. So good work all.

We're also about halfway there on the boulders and trunks. I noticed that my alt who can dig out the boulders can't actually cut them into monoliths though. So someone will need to do that. I can cut both monoliths and beams on my main so I'll move over to that afterwards.

Soeman put up suggestions for the castle while will get us 12 accommodation (12 more guild slots) using fairly cheap materials. We need a fair amount of bronze for the portcullis and I believe only Izzy has the recipe to make those as well. We also need a TON of slate and acacia. Doing the slate commerce turn ins is probably the fastest. That's ~200 blocks per character per day if you can do the ones in both Maliken and Hawkoria.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:20 pm UTC

I have the Silk Tabard Deva made. Getting a Modiste. Once I have her, I can probably make one for myself.

After I get her, I'll start more seriously paying attention to the contracts and favors I'm getting to make some Agreements for the guild. I've got an assortment on me from my rough rush to level the skill of Spying, but I'm not exactly sure what I need where.

I believe I can do the Commercial Agreement, so I'll start there. I know places to get all the pieces, so it should be ... "easy". For certain values of the word Easy. Looks like we also only need 17 more of them.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:50 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Looks like we also only need 17 more of them.


17, minus the ones we expect from festivals; actual number may be close to 10. Now given the time it takes to obtain one, you can hardly overdo it.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Adam H » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:02 pm UTC

Are the megalithic stone recipes in the guild bank, and should I learn it/them? My stone skill is ~60, but I lost interest in the active aspect of this game once I unlocked the Den and I haven't bothered going to Norstria or checking to see what I need to do to advance personally. Don't want to steal a recipe if more active players can use it.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:33 pm UTC

There were 5 of them and we have 4 on active players. I think its fine if you grab them.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:19 pm UTC

I'm a day or so off from completing the kry order and will start in on spying actions over in Nostria.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:28 pm UTC

Are we somehow decided that we will use bronze ingots on Castle project?

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Also when I see fir factory I think Fear Factory. But this is probably only me (what with French having no short and long vowels).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:00 am UTC

No, I see that too, only spoken by someone with a mumbly accent.

"i'm gonnah see fir factory on firday."
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:57 am UTC

Acquired an uncut Volcano Heart. Covers Searching, Science, and worthless stats. Bets on a +0.3 boost over Tear cuts at equal carat quality.

Downsides:
1. 40 Aristocracy for the recipe. Should learn it within two weeks…hopefully.
2. 77 skill for one-carat. Good luck. (Ice Tears: 62 skill one-carat -> 75 skill four-carat.)

Obtained a one-carat Sunstone and Moonstone too. Could create jewelry with them. Stinks, unsurprisingly.
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Lansferum/Lanferite/Walhein Bone. Cannot fit everything in the preview. Cut off worthless stats.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:15 pm UTC

Ah ah I wanted to assign Morlet at monolith making now that he has a T3 stone comp, but he has no access to the Den where the recipe is :lol:.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:36 pm UTC

Yeah I noticed I moved some of the ones there that probably shouldn't have been moved to it. I can cut the monoliths and I'm pretty sure Fitz and Holly can as well. Ideally that'll be enough else we may need to run one of the actions to get more monolith recipes so we can throw some alts on it. I think its 3 recipes at the cost of something like 5-10 construction agreements but I don't recall exactly. For the beams me and Biliboy can cut those and make the frames I believe.

I put the materials for the fish festival up. Lots of logs and annoying to get fish on that list. So we can consider getting alts to start working on that too. The runic festival is going to be paced by either the 50 academic agreements we need or the 1000 runic artifact fragments. Comparatively I think the rest of that one is easy but I'll check again later.

We should also try and sell some more Krya stuff to start raising funds for that ridiculous 5000g we'll need to put the castle up. Hopefully those new tasks/quests that are coming out will give a decent amount of money. They'll have an interesting effect on prices I think. The example of 5 odiemel axes for 120g would be 2.5 hours work and 10 odiemel ingots. At current market prices that'd be 8g/hour for the 2.5 hours work which is pretty high for something as "easy" as an odiemel axe. The other example of 65 engineering to work at 5g/hour is also somewhat interesting. Guess we'll see how it works out.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:20 pm UTC

I just sent off 3 kryanod ingots for half an order. Thanks to Soeman for helping with the mining. I have another 3 ready for the other half of the order, though I'm not sure the buyer can put up the money just yet.

Also have kry pick and lumberjack axes, either for guild use or sale...

Yeah. No kryamane yet. This is driving me nuts.

Where are the gems for spying? I didn't see them in any of our domains.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:34 pm UTC

Sandstone Domain. The one up by the Pioneer Camp, Garrun'Gol, the Ogre harassing that one guy, Racinor Ruins, The Silver Pit, Stonepowder Quarry etc.

Though in looking at it, pickin's for cut stones are kinda getting slim.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:58 pm UTC

My alt took a break from cutting gems once I finished with the gems I'll need for the criminal favors (I think I overproduced there so I'll throw extras back). I think that alt is currently expanding the HQ for actions today since I didn't have time to set him up to do anything that useful. Which gems do people need cut? I can set him up to start cutting them again, assuming we have the uncut gems somewhere (either in his personal stash or the ones in the domain).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:48 pm UTC

Oh, right, I'm working on those Commercial Agreements. No idea how many I can do before I run out of agreements and favors.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:12 pm UTC

Oh, doh. I'll throw a bunch of stuff in.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby jjl2357 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:23 am UTC

fyi: I took a giant oak recipe and am working on squaring those as well.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:48 pm UTC

Sounds good. I had my alt start making the megalithic foundations with the monoliths we had. She's still extracting boulders too. The festival is ready to be completed I'll set an alt to do it if I no one else does, just wasn't in place this morning to go pick up the mandates. That means we're pretty close to having all the agreements we need for the academic, construction and commercial ones. I have pretty much all the favors for clandestine (I think I'm missing enough for 1 final agreement if anyone wants to do that one) and am working them through pretty constantly now (getting a little over 2 per day). Great work on all this everyone!

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Biliboy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:30 am UTC

So after worrying that I might need super expensive potions to hit 50 cave for getting Mister Golem, I did a few fights in talendrome, got gaspard to 50, me to 47, and with clothes, hit 50.6 with a 3.3 potion that dropped from Elisime.

Stage one: Prototype Mister Golem

19/0/0
18/23/17

Stage two: Enhanced Mister Golem

68/0/0
64/66/73
Intelligent/40% reduced damage for 8 rounds

I made it around 10 rounds, got him down fairly low, then got mutilated. I'll have to try again later.

*editing to have the info all together*

Came back tonight, used conspirator instead of yraen, and he ate 3 hits before dying. Cerry took two without dying, and finished the second stage off. I spent as much time as I could attacking with me and gaspard (for cave skill hit chance) and boar (for damage)

Stage three: Mister Golem

47/0/0
28/37/44

So now I have a fighter that can hit 60 blunt damage, and yraen is pretty much retired, replaced by Gaspard with 27/53/50.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:50 pm UTC

There's a third stage after that but for some reason its way easier than the second. We finished the festival and I've updated the spreadsheet for the agreements. Very close to finishing a bunch of them so that's looking good. Military and clandestine are the stragglers, though I'm missing only 5 of the criminal favors needed to finish off clandestine. So we're in a good spot. Money and parts for the castle look like the next big obstacle. The parts seem to be coming along reasonably well. And 5000g is somewhere around 400g each if I counted the active players right. Anyways presumably the new quests and gold generating tasks will be out by the time we get around to needing that 5000g so it should be too big an issue, assuming they don't drastically change the numbers they gave in their examples (5g/hour at 65 engineering and 120g for 5 odiemel axes I believe were the two they gave).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:06 pm UTC

I have been mostly doing military agreements lately, but I am running out of gems btw, so I should be (even) slower now.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:26 pm UTC

I no longer have the Naval Agreements necessary for the Commercial Agreements, so however many are in the guild hall are how many I could make.

After I do some stuff with my Mod. to get her a bit up to spec, I'll start back in on the Naval Agreements and then Commercial ones if they haven't already been finished. In other words, I'll be back on them in 2-3 days.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:43 pm UTC

I'm looking at the spreadsheet and am kind of uncertain which agreements are needed. Do we just need to fill the agreements at the guild hall, should I just focus on whichever is lowest?

And I sent an email to the guild, but I need more coke. Because drug joke.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:02 pm UTC

Needs thirty of each guild agreement (except Political) for the castle. Means three more Commercial, fourteen Military, thirteen Clandestine, and five Construction.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:49 am UTC

If you can do the Military and Clandestine, focus on those simply because I know I can't (or at least I think I can't) currently, but I can do the Commercial and Construction ones.

Simply from a time standpoint, doing those means I can use my time to the immediate benefit of the guild and then the future benefit, whereas not doing them means I can use my time only for the future benefit of the guild.


Of course, I say that not knowing who the hell can do what anymore. I should update the spreadsheet and look at what everyone else can do.
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