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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:46 pm UTC

Yeah I think he'd be ok with making stuff for us. I can chat with him when I get back if need be. Maybe make a deal to let him make the kdel/dom chest I need since I think he'd still get skillups for it. Thats probably pretty valuable in and of itself considering the cost to get those last couple of points.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:16 pm UTC

Heh, he said he'd do it for me because of you Val. So, I'm going to get back to mining kry, and would like to potentially purchase clusters from people, since I'll need 5 for the hammer.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:20 pm UTC

Well I have no purpose for the one cluster (plus 12 actions) I have extracted, so I can sell it.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:35 pm UTC

Im pretty sure I'll have some extra clusters since I was mining all week and only needed a few more for my armor so we can trade some in exchange for some of the cracking of clusters. If you need take 5 (or 4 if you take Grops) from my ones and we can figure out how to deal with payment/exchanges after.

I believe you'll need the quest reward rune (Mag Intense I believe) for the proper blacksmith hammer too. I have one I can give ya until you finish the quest that gives it, if you haven't already done it.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:29 pm UTC

I think I had two in the bank as well... And I've gotten a handful of runes, will have to check for that one.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby drpeaker » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:31 am UTC

Just brought in the last portion of bovine meat. There are at least 500 of each now.
Not sure how and who I should notify about it, so posting here.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Fitzfool » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:45 pm UTC

drpeaker wrote:Just brought in the last portion of bovine meat. There are at least 500 of each now.
Not sure how and who I should notify about it, so posting here.

Awesome, I'll see if I can't get one of my alts to run some of the festivals, we are just short on some firewood now if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:11 pm UTC

I think its just the firewood that is holding us back for the festival's completion. If anyone has any please throw it into the HQ.

For those who are mining/smelting, please update the spreadsheet. It looks like we have more clusters in domain than we should (possibly just due to queued actions not being noted as completed) and we have less clusters in the factory domain that listed (possibly due to Izzy taking them to be smelted).

Im looking to get some eliandel ore/nuggets if anyone has them to sell. Can buy with gold or trade for other things. Not sure what the actual going rate is for them (the market seems kinda crazy with nuggets being at almost the same price as ingots). Maybe that is the price since ingots drop a lot in ice lab and nuggets/ore are annoying to get, but I haven't seen many selling at that price.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:22 pm UTC

Collected enough Old Currency for personal use. Where should extras go?

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:06 pm UTC

Out of all that I think the porch recipe is the most important due to the archeology bonus is provides. This is necessary for the best runes. As such it should be for someone who is focussing on being one of our primary runemakers. That is someone who has finished all the Norstria quests for all the rune tracings. I'll take on that role on my main since Im too lazy to redo all those quests on my alts. I just turned in 5 old currency yesterday so I don't need any more right now. We can see if anyone else is planning on doing archeology before sending out the old currency. If not I guess send em my way.

After I'm done with my krya armor, my metal alt will setup an archeology dig site and go on to gathering runic artifacts full time. That should help with the absurd number of runic fragments that are needed for making runes in the end. Will also provide more old currency as a nice side effect.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:00 pm UTC

Chen wrote:For those who are mining/smelting, please update the spreadsheet. It looks like we have more clusters in domain than we should (possibly just due to queued actions not being noted as completed) and we have less clusters in the factory domain that listed (possibly due to Izzy taking them to be smelted).
I'm also not certain who to pay out right now. I am currently holding onto 5 clusters worth of other peoples stuff. I may just split them amongst Val, Soeman, and Fool.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:14 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I'm also not certain who to pay out right now. I am currently holding onto 5 clusters worth of other peoples stuff. I may just split them amongst Val, Soeman, and Fool.


I only need 1 right away, you can split the other 2 to Fitz and Soeman. If we include those 5, is the spreadsheet matching whats in the domains? I'm not sure which factory is off by 1 for the cluster Deva moved to the HQ for the festival. It might be Ursula's but she hasn't been on in 3ish weeks, so either she quit or took an extended leave. Either way, we can use her actions/clusters to even things out if need be.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:36 pm UTC

Chen wrote:
Izawwlgood wrote:I'm also not certain who to pay out right now. I am currently holding onto 5 clusters worth of other peoples stuff. I may just split them amongst Val, Soeman, and Fool.


I only need 1 right away, you can split the other 2 to Fitz and Soeman. If we include those 5, is the spreadsheet matching whats in the domains? I'm not sure which factory is off by 1 for the cluster Deva moved to the HQ for the festival. It might be Ursula's but she hasn't been on in 3ish weeks, so either she quit or took an extended leave. Either way, we can use her actions/clusters to even things out if need be.

I already sent you one.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:01 pm UTC

Chen wrote:I'm not sure which factory is off by 1 for the cluster Deva moved to the HQ for the festival.

Grabbed it from Kryanite Mine.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:33 pm UTC

So how are we doing on firewood for the festival? I think it's the only thing preventing us from finishing it. If no one has any big stashes I may just buy one of those 20k stacks on the market and be done with it.

We also need more people to be expanding the Shipyard domain in Norstria as well as cutting giant pines. Otherwise that temple is going to take forever to make.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Drumheller769 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:53 pm UTC

I know its not much but I think I have somewhere around 500 I can drop in.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:56 pm UTC

Likewise I must have a smallish quantity; I have a forester felling fir trees, but I have been dropping my firewood at guild hall often.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:57 pm UTC

Festival is done and metal delegation is done. I've distributed 4 of the 5 krya recipes (myself, Fitz, Soeman, Chance). There's one more left. I believe CorruptUser has a metal alt who can smelt krya? If there anyone else who could use this one?

As for the metal factory/high furnace/portcullis recipes I am going to try and sell them. I may take a portcullis recipe (just so we have at least 2 in guild) but since the portcullis' themselves can actually be traded these are far less important than other recipes. In any case selling the set of three items is probably worthwhile. What do people think a good price would be? 2k?

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:04 pm UTC

Oh thank god, now you all can smelt.

New hammer is rad, with a potion I can get up to 76.8, which will probably provide a skill up. So... Anyone who need kry armor, pick something from this list in that range and lets chat.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:04 pm UTC

I will grab that recipe soonish.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:45 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Oh thank god, now you all can smelt.

New hammer is rad, with a potion I can get up to 76.8, which will probably provide a skill up. So... Anyone who need kry armor, pick something from this list in that range and lets chat.


I should have enough Kdel for the gloves this evening. Probably the arms later on the weekend. I think the arms should only be 77 skill so if you skillup from the gloves you should be able to make them.

We can also look into getting the new forge made. 10 Noct Leather, 20 Azulio and 10 Volcanite. Im pretty sure Lyncea can make the volcanite forges. I think it'll be a fairly long while before I finish the samponar recipe, skill up enough with that AND get the new Norstrian engineering companion before I can make those. I'd also need to remove our super engineering machine from the factory and put it in my lab (for the bonus).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Biliboy » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:20 pm UTC

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:00 pm UTC

Was the earlier discussion about an Herbalism Workshop/Factory? Almost collected enough Galandor Nuggets. (Grumbles. Received zero ingots in (probably) over five hundred trade-ins. Compensated with frequent ore and nuggets, at least.) Dedicated a third character for the home stretch.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:18 am UTC

Deva, I can't seem to find your guide for the two dungeons in Nostria similar to the Dreamy? Can you link?
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:28 am UTC

Which ones? Recognizes three* dungeons: Lower Depths, Aifaran’s Laboratory, and Gilfaniel’s Laboratory. Never bothered to screenshot either laboratory. Consists of four spaces each. Mentioned them in Soriason.

Lower Depths map (under Recruiting Rowan):
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*Technically four with Tarasquan’s dungeon. Barely entered there, however. Consulted Lyncea's map.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:48 am UTC

Deva wrote:Was the earlier discussion about an Herbalism Workshop/Factory? Almost collected enough Galandor Nuggets. (Grumbles. Received zero ingots in (probably) over five hundred trade-ins. Compensated with frequent ore and nuggets, at least.) Dedicated a third character for the home stretch.

Expects to learn Samponar late today, also.


We will almost certainly need the galandor stove for the temple. Not sure if we need one for an herbalism factory as well.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:55 am UTC

Believes so. Recalls hearing temples only offering runic options.
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Edit: Tested Samponar. Accepts meta materials only. Listed Complex values.

Not tested: Nocturial Leather and Kryamane/nroc/nod Ingot.

Best: Oceanite/Wingu/(Blueroc or Galandor)/(Soletto or Azulio)/Ayrann/Volriziar (70 Metascience. 87 skill.)
Realistic: Oceanite/Huberian/Blueroc/Gurdismo/Ayrann/Marapidos (53 Metascience. 69 skill.)

Swapped out materials from Best.

Block: Oceanite (70) > Marapis (69) = Lithosnow (69) = Palpable (69) = Volcanite (69) > Iriandanild (68) > Xuran (67) > Lanferite (66) = Borm (66) > Simblior (65)

Fabric: Wingu (70) > Solardran (65) > Huberian (64) = Jutug (64) > Araknirar (63) = Goldnester (63) > Olkznar (61) = Blacknester (61) = Silk (61) = Norstrian Mohair (61)

Ingot: Blueroc (70) = Galandor (70) > Kryandel (69) = Eliandel (69) > Domane (66) = Odiemel (66)

Plank: Azulio (70) = Soletto (70) > Salancedar (69) > Melandrin (68) = Gurdismo (68) = Solone (68) > Salandrin (67)

Leather: Ayrann (70) > Catoblepian (69) > Royanar (67) > Wyvern (65) > Chimeric (63)

Glass: Volriziar (70) > Marapidos (62) > Bormadar (61) > Lansferum (61) > Krystalid (60) > Catoblar (56) > Clearmoon (55) > Diodur (52)


Lacks sufficient skill for a decent Samponar currently. Manages with a new Engineering machine, though. (Hates replacing that.) Eyes a 51 Metascience Samponar (64 skill) with Marapis/Huberian/Blueroc/Solone/Ayrann/Lansferum. Begins after Galandor trade-ins (and material gathering).
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:41 pm UTC

The engineering machine in our factory is 59 I believe. It'll be about a week and a half until I finish being able to learn the Samponar as well but I will be able to make the 53 metascience one you posted (I think my effective engineering skill in our factory is 66 without potion). In fact i'll likely gain skill from it too since that was the whole reason I was learning this stupid long ass recipe. Shame clearmoon glass is so terrible for it, presumably that's what I'll use at some point to get the very high end engineering skill up (until having to go to wingu which will be a disaster).

For herbalism, I know Soeman put together a separate guild just for the herbalists. He put up a factory with a high stove (though not galandor). We should eventually upgrade that one to a galandor stove and just send our herbalists into that guild. I had forgotten about the temples not being able to make regular stuff so yeah I guess we need two of those galandor stoves.

Whats the general rate you've been acquiring ore/nuggets/ingots Deva? I may need to set my metal alt up doing commerce in halmvik for that too then, once they're done with my krya.

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:16 pm UTC

Chen wrote:For herbalism, I know Soeman put together a separate guild just for the herbalists. He put up a factory with a high stove (though not galandor). We should eventually upgrade that one to a galandor stove and just send our herbalists into that guild. I had forgotten about the temples not being able to make regular stuff so yeah I guess we need two of those galandor stoves.

Do they produce anything besides Healing and Regeneration Vials?
Chen wrote:Whats the general rate you've been acquiring ore/nuggets/ingots Deva? I may need to set my metal alt up doing commerce in halmvik for that too then, once they're done with my krya.

Based on perception, 1-2 Galandrite Ore and 0-1 Galandor Nuggets per day (approximately twelve trade-ins a day). Might receive a Galandor Ingot once a month. Maybe. Earned 80/95 Nuggets thus far from Galandrite Ore (coincidentally, exactly average results). May have had Galandrite Ore before "beginning", however.

Based on two hundred recorded trade-ins:
- One Galandrite Ore per 11.111 trade-ins
- One Galandor Nugget per 28.571 trade-ins.
- One Galandor Ingot per 200 trade-ins (likely worse).

Estimated 739.437 trade-ins (61.62 days) for a Galandrite Stove with one character and average luck. Costs 33.8 gold per day (15.2 from contacts and 18.6 for trade-ins). Equals 2082.746 gold. Ignored sleeping, acquiring Clandestine Agreements beforehand, and opportunity cost.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:02 pm UTC

Deva wrote:Do they produce anything besides Healing and Regeneration Vials?


I don't know if any have been pushing their herbalism any higher. I know my alt only makes regen and healing potions. I have an untrained T3 stored on a concession somewhere but no Stone Sage (and probably not one planned for a while).

Based on perception, 1-2 Galandrite Ore and 0-1 Galandor Nuggets per day (approximately twelve trade-ins a day). Might receive a Galandor Ingot once a month. Maybe. Earned 80/95 Nuggets thus far from Galandrite Ore (coincidentally, exactly average results). May have had Galandrite Ore before "beginning", however.

Based on two hundred recorded trade-ins:
- One Galandrite Ore per 11.111 trade-ins
- One Galandor Nugget per 28.571 trade-ins.
- One Galandor Ingot per 200 trade-ins (likely worse).

Estimated 739.437 trade-ins (61.62 days) for a Galandrite Stove with one character and average luck. Costs 33.8 gold per day (15.2 from contacts and 18.6 for trade-ins). Equals 2082.746 gold. Ignored sleeping, acquiring Clandestine Agreements beforehand, and opportunity cost.


That's pricey. I'll start sending back any extra galandrite ore I have. Once my krya armor is done I may have better chance at killing the Norstria bosses too who apparently can drop galandor nuggets (and maybe rarely ingots).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:20 pm UTC

Chen wrote:
Deva wrote:Based on perception, 1-2 Galandrite Ore and 0-1 Galandor Nuggets per day (approximately twelve trade-ins a day). Might receive a Galandor Ingot once a month. Maybe. Earned 80/95 Nuggets thus far from Galandrite Ore (coincidentally, exactly average results). May have had Galandrite Ore before "beginning", however.

Based on two hundred recorded trade-ins:
- One Galandrite Ore per 11.111 trade-ins
- One Galandor Nugget per 28.571 trade-ins.
- One Galandor Ingot per 200 trade-ins (likely worse).

Estimated 739.437 trade-ins (61.62 days) for a Galandrite Stove with one character and average luck. Costs 33.8 gold per day (15.2 from contacts and 18.6 for trade-ins). Equals 2082.746 gold. Ignored sleeping, acquiring Clandestine Agreements beforehand, and opportunity cost.


That's pricey. I'll start sending back any extra galandrite ore I have. Once my krya armor is done I may have better chance at killing the Norstria bosses too who apparently can drop galandor nuggets (and maybe rarely ingots).

Recoups some expenses, potentially. Earns 177.456 Ancestral Dice, 44.364 Jutug Fibers, 48.061 Frizifrets, 88.728 Lumps of Xuran, and other assorted materials in that timeframe.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Grop » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:38 pm UTC

Is anyone mass producing marble sand? I have a domane mine but am running out of sand (to do the smelting).

(Well that metal alt can actually mine for marble).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:03 am UTC

Chuckles. Recalled drones from Halmvik. Distributed the spoils. Owns 90+ of all meta plants (except Frizifret), 100+ Lumps of Xuran, and 300+ Ancestral Dice. Spent too much time there.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:49 pm UTC

Damn that's a lot of commerce :P

@Izzy: I sent you the plates and reinforcements to make those Kdel/dom gloves. Let me know if you manage to get a skillup and I can provide more plates and reinforcements for a set of the arms (which I think are the next lowest difficulty).

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:40 pm UTC

Constructed a 52 Herbalism factory in the main guild. Feels silly only using a Cedar/Copper/Marapis/Fortified Leather mill. Likens it to a wooden hilt on a jeweled sword. Suffices until the temple, however.

Added Galandor to the above Samponar materials too. Tied Blueroc.
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Re: Therian Saga

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:22 pm UTC

Built a Den Telluric Sanctuary. Requires four Marapis Domes and four Lansferum (glass) Domes. Installed a 51 Samponar (Marapis/Ayrann/Blueroc/Huberian/Solone/Lansferum). Comes with 45 Prestige too.

5 Metascience: 15-29 Foggy Pearls. 1:09:06 (16.5 effort) per action. Inflicts 20% health. Cannot assign Rowan to automate. (Assumed as much. Still hoped.)

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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Izawwlgood » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:55 pm UTC

Is this a guild structure? I am dying to pick up metascience and start queuing pearl production.
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Deva » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:02 am UTC

No. (Imagines horrible requirements for a hypothetical Den guild structure anyways.) Learns Telluric Sanctuary automatically at the end of Soriason’s quest line.

(Start collecting Aryann Leather, also. Yields 1-2 from commerce (Secret Dock) per day. Needs twenty.)
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Re: Therian Saga

Postby Chen » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:23 pm UTC

I suspect the base pearl value is 10-20 so I think a 50 samponar will also hit the max in the Den. Not sure if that makes it any easier to make. Also means the 53 one is completely unnecessary.


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