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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby KnightExemplar » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:46 am UTC

Koa wrote:Another big question is going to be how they're going to do their online service. If it's similar to Wii I think people are going to be disappointed that Nintendo is going to continue to be behind the times for another 5+ years.


Sony and Microsoft are conglomerates that are significantly larger than Nintendo. Its to be expected. Nintendo's primary R&D seems to be their hardware.

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Not you. Its the store's responsibility to ensure they're not stolen. Besides, there's a huge chance its from a pawn shop instead.
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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby mosc » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:37 am UTC

legally, your liability is limited to your purchase but the purchase itself is at risk with no refund. I'm sure you could sue the people you bought the device from for a lot more than it's purchase price though if that happened so not much risk to you.

Maybe the kid grew up a couple years and traded it in towards a PS4 or something and didn't care about the personal information it had on it.
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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby rmsgrey » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:20 pm UTC

It's unprofessional (and, here in the UK, possibly a breach of data protection legislation) to sell on a machine containing personal information of a third party.

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby siloguist » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:40 am UTC

mosc wrote:Maybe the kid grew up a couple years and traded it in towards a PS4 or something and didn't care about the personal information it had on it.

That's the simplest and most likely explanation I'd say, so probably nothing to worry about on your end. That said, the shop/seller obviously should have checked first!

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby Chen » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:43 am UTC

heuristically_alone wrote:So my brother bought me a used 2ds (so we can play Pokemon sun and moon together ) and I am 98% certain that the 2ds is stolen. The parental lock was on that I had to override, there were recordings of some 8 year old singing that his name was Billy Bob Joe, did not come with the original charger, and the new Mario Party game is pre-purchased. Should I feel guilty?


Well he could have bought it used off ebay or the like as well. Or really even some place like Gamestop with lazy employees who didn't bother to clean the thing out before re-selling it.

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby heuristically_alone » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:26 pm UTC

It was bought off of Craigslist, the greatest black market of them all.
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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby Deva » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:16 am UTC

Announced more information on Nintendo Switch.

- Release date: March 3.
- Price: $299.99.
- Battery life: 2.5 to 6.5 hours. (Depends on game.) May charge it outside of the dock too.
- Features a touch screen.
- Offers an online multiplayer service. Gives a free trial initially. Becomes a paid service in Fall 2017. Connects with smartphones. Helps invite friends, set appointments, and chat. May mention more things later.
- No region locking (in general).

Controller
- Hid L and R buttons on each controller half.
- May press the analog stick.
- Reads Amiibos.
- Contains motion controls in both halves. Included an attachment with wrist strap and larger L and R buttons.
- Press a button on the left half for a screenshot (and later video).
- Uses "Rumble HD". Imagine shaking a glass with ice cubes. Discerns the difference between one, two, and three. Added the sensation of filling said glass.
- Added IR to both halves. Distinguishes between Rock, Paper, and Scissors. Measures distance too.
- Neon Red and Neon Blue colors (as well as wrist strap attachment colors).

Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Releases March 3. Waited until the end to speak of it.

One, Two, Switch
Releases March 3. Describes it as a party game. Highlighted a quick draw game. Implied wizardry, sword fighting, keep-away, and dance mini-games too. Emphasized not looking at the screen to play. Ought to look at your opponent.

Arms
Releases Spring 2017. Appears to be a boxing game with stretchy arms. Uses motion controls.

Splatoon 2
Releases Summer 2017. Never played the original. Guesses standard sequel features. Mentioned dual pistols specifically.

Super Mario Odyssey
Releases Holiday 2017. Might focus on hats. Gave Mario’s googly eyes. Handed a white top hat (and tuxedo) to Bowser.

Teased Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Fire Emblem Warriors also. (Looked like Marth or Lucina in the latter.) Listed no dates.

Other games: Dragon Quest X, Dragon Quest XI, Dragon Quest Heroes I + II, a Shin Megami Tensei game, Project Octopath Traveler (Square Enix), Skyrim, a No More Heroes sequel, and EA Sports FIFA.
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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby cyanyoshi » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:26 am UTC

$300 is on the high side of my expectations, so it may be wise to wait for a price drop or a good bundle to come out.

The touch screen is fine, but does that just not work for game you can play at a tv? It seems that way. Battery life is whatever. I don't expect to play this thing away from a power outlet for too long, so no big deal either way. I'm not a fan of "rumble" of any kind, so that will probably be turned off immediately.

I'm sad about having to pay for online play. I know other console companies do this, but Nintendo hasn't been known for their great online experience before, so this comes across as a bit sketchy. Let's wait and see if it's really worth it once the games come out.

Arms looks like it could be a lot of fun. I just hope that there's enough variety to stand alongside other fighting games. 1-2-Switch looks like a throwaway tech demo. "Audio games" are one of those genres that has massive untapped potential, so I am still at least a little bit interested in this minigame collection. Too bad I have no friends to play it with.

The Mario game looks very interesting. Very much a Sonic Adventure vibe, complete with the out-of-place humans in a city hub world. I'm all for a Mario game with a focus on exploration, which we haven't really had since Sunshine. I'd like to see what they are going for in this one.

The Zelda game looks fine. I'm not particularly excited for it like everyone else is, but at least it's coming out for Wii U also.

XENOBLADE 2!!!! You have no idea how hyped I am for this. The first Xenoblade is my #1 favorite video game, and Xenoblade X alone makes the Wii U well worth the price. This is going to be a looooong couple of years, isn't it?

There's a new Bomberman game, which is really cool! Sonic Mania looks like the best 2D Sonic game ever. Skyrim finally makes its way onto a Nintendo system, and a portable one at that. Maybe I'll finally get it once I have several hundred hours to spare. There is also a handful of new IP that looks promising.

All in all, the Switch looks decent so far, but there nothing making me want to run out and preorder it. Some good, some bad, some things to look forward to, and some other stuff too.

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby rmsgrey » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:34 am UTC

I expect to be playing Breath of the Wild in early March, assuming the hardware isn't sold out for the first 6 months...

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby Zohar » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:36 pm UTC

Aren't they releasing it for WiiU as well?
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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby rmsgrey » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:00 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:Aren't they releasing it for WiiU as well?


Yes, but I might as well get the extra hardware with it.

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby ConMan » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:14 pm UTC

I got to go to one of the Switch hype events yesterday. My thoughts:

  • The Joycon controllers are tiny. Even the Switch is small, but you really notice it when you're holding something that is about 2/3 the length and 1/2 the thickness of an original Wiimote and trying to press buttons on it. It's especially odd that the two sides aren't exactly the same, so there can be some slight alignment adjustments if you swap between them.
  • I didn't get to play Zelda (the combination of the demo taking about 20 minutes and everyone else in the building wanting to try it kind of made it tricky), but from what I hear it's pretty, a lot of things feel like a Zelda game, but some things (possibly including combat) don't.
  • ARMS is a tech demo, and one with fairly limited replay potential.
  • 1, 2, Switch is a bunch of tech demos repurposed into a party game. A few of the minigames are probably "play once and you'll never touch it again", but several of them will be fun to pull out at gatherings and set up impromptu cow milking tournaments, or whatever.
  • Speaking of 1, 2, Switch, they weren't kidding about the sensitivity of the rumble - I played both the Safe cracking and Ball counting games and you could feel quite small changes in the pattern of the rumble (Ball counting is definitely one of those games that you'd only play once and go "Woah" at, though).
  • Splatoon 2 is Splatoon with more stuff. Fun stuff, but there didn't feel like any radical departures in the demo I played (proper local multiplayer should be good, though).
  • Everyone who played Snipperclips thought it was amazingly fun. Apparently it should be an eShop title and will be about $AU30, which I think is a little high but probably not terribly so.
  • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe seems fine, but refer back to my comment about the small controller, and apply that to the small controller inside a proportionately small steering wheel. It's theoretically nice that the motion controls are actually good enough to steer with now, but it was still tricky.
  • Bomberman is Bomberman. Those who like the games are getting more of what they like, and it will probably be a good intro to the series for people too. It will support up to 8 players in battle mode (possibly on the one console?) with a double-width map, which should make for some good chaotic fun.

I'm guessing that, like with the Wii and Wii U, the first year or so of games is going to be a mix of (a) tech demos elevated to real games and (b) stuff that was being planned for the previous console before being retooled for the new one, so I wouldn't expect to see much in the way of games that really delve into the depths of possibility just yet. The price point is not terrible, though, so we might consider it (especially for Zelda).
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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby rmsgrey » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:11 am UTC

rmsgrey wrote:
Zohar wrote:Aren't they releasing it for WiiU as well?


Yes, but I might as well get the extra hardware with it.


So I now have a pre-order down for console plus Zelda, but not plus pro-controller despite attempts to upsell by threatening post-release scarcity on the part of the shop assistant (my Wii U pro controller suggests that post-launch scarcity is unlikely to be absolute, judging by past events)

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby KnightExemplar » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:47 pm UTC

PuyoPuyo Tetris is an utterly amazing game.

I'm glad that it finally has an English release, with an English dub to its storymode nonetheless. Its story mode is cheesy and simple, but should satisfy most anime-fans. The real gameplay is 4-player free-for-all Tetris and Puyo matches.

I've had the distinct pleasure of playing an import PuyoPuyo Tetris on PS4, and if I get the Switch, I'm going to re-buy the game on Switch. Its that good of a game.

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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby Quizatzhaderac » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:16 pm UTC

So is the maximum number of players per console 2? I find that disappointing. Also, I've heard that battery isn't designed to be replaced, but does that mean it's just more difficult to replace to replace? (like the 3DS, which just requires an unusual screwdriver size)

I might buy it just for Zelda (which is also a big reason I never bought a Wii U). I think Pokemon is also going to be a big must-have game for many people.

I see a lot of ports and upcoming "all systems" games, which makes sense, but isn't very exciting.

I feel like there should be a cooperative game, but I can't argue that point from a financial perspective. Are those <whatever> Warriors games any good?

As I see it, it would have made more sense to have the indie/small studios lined up sooner rather than later. You need a lot of heads coming up with half baked (but genuinely creative) ideas of what to do with your "innovative" hardware.
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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby KnightExemplar » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:25 pm UTC

Quizatzhaderac wrote:So is the maximum number of players per console 2? I find that disappointing. Also, I've heard that battery isn't designed to be replaced, but does that mean it's just more difficult to replace to replace? (like the 3DS, which just requires an unusual screwdriver size)


I find that unlikely. You can purchase additional JoyCons for a reason, so that's at least 4-players. With first-party support for Mario Kart and Puyo Puyo Tetris, 4-players is a must have.

Nintendo already has 8-players on the WiiU thanks to Super Smash Bros. The only niche the Wii U had was its plethora of good couch games.

I feel like there should be a cooperative game, but I can't argue that point from a financial perspective. Are those <whatever> Warriors games any good?


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Re: Nintendo Topic

Postby ConMan » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:46 pm UTC

The Bomberman demo was 4 players, 1 console using an extra pair of Joycons. I heard that it supports up to 8 players, but I didn't hear whether that involved more than one console.
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