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Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:42 pm UTC
by Zohar
Can anyone think of games occurring in Paris during La Belle Epoque i.e. 1871-1914? Some sort of mystery or adventure game maybe? Available platforms right now are PC, android phone, or Wii U.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:08 pm UTC
by SuicideJunkie
rmsgrey wrote:
Zohar wrote:From what I understand they're pretty different from the original. I enjoyed both of the recent games a lot.

Yeah, the original is a lot more simulation while the remakes are a lot more "gamey" - for instance, in the original, the rank structure is based on the number of active soldiers - every so-many soldiers means the game looks to promote a sergeant, so many more, and a captain, so many more and a colonel, and with enough total, someone gets promoted to commander. Meanwhile, soldiers improve various stats just by using them, independent of their rank. In the reboot, rank is just straight character level, and you can have 6 colonels with no other troops.
I'm pretty sure the promotions are strongly related to combat actions, in addition to being capped by your team size.

A rookie benchwarmer who sits in the skyranger will stay a rookie, but they have a chance of promotion after taking a few shots.
Emptying a clip, or actually hitting an alien with that spray basically guarantees their first promotion.
After that, the skills of your best trooper tend to make them steal the kills and get promoted further first, so you have to try in order to share the love/XP.

I also don't recall ever seeing stats improve other than during promotion or the psi facility training psi skill specifically, but maybe I missed that as I only looked for a strong person to carry the heavy weapons and everybody else just hosed the enemy with an unceasing tide of laser shots most of the time.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:36 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Zohar wrote:Can anyone think of games occurring in Paris during La Belle Epoque i.e. 1871-1914? Some sort of mystery or adventure game maybe? Available platforms right now are PC, android phone, or Wii U.

Contrast is heavily inspired by it, but I think plays a little loosely with the actual technology and culture available at the time.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:11 am UTC
by techblogger911
SecondTalon wrote:
Zohar wrote:Can anyone think of games occurring in Paris during La Belle Epoque i.e. 1871-1914? Some sort of mystery or adventure game maybe? Available platforms right now are PC, android phone, or Wii U.

Contrast is heavily inspired by it, but I think plays a little loosely with the actual technology and culture available at the time.



Have you tried contrast?

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:53 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
techblogger911 wrote:
SecondTalon wrote:Contrast is heavily inspired by it, but I think plays a little loosely with the actual technology and culture available at the time.

Have you tried contrast?

That's why I mentioned it.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:30 pm UTC
by plytho
Zohar wrote:Can anyone think of games occurring in Paris during La Belle Epoque i.e. 1871-1914? Some sort of mystery or adventure game maybe? Available platforms right now are PC, android phone, or Wii U.
Aviary attorney is set a little earlier (1848) but it's a lot of fun. It's an ace attorney style game with anthropomorphic animals.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:06 pm UTC
by heuristically_alone
SecondTalon wrote:
techblogger911 wrote:
SecondTalon wrote:Contrast is heavily inspired by it, but I think plays a little loosely with the actual technology and culture available at the time.

Have you tried contrast?

That's why I mentioned it.

I hear Contrast is pretty fun to try.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:10 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Urge to ban rising....

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:13 pm UTC
by Zohar
SecondTalon wrote:Contrast is heavily inspired by it, but I think plays a little loosely with the actual technology and culture available at the time.

Seems interesting! Reviews are very mixed but it's so cheap it's not a big deal to try it out. Definitely looks darker than what I wanted though.

plytho wrote:Aviary attorney is set a little earlier (1848) but it's a lot of fun. It's an ace attorney style game with anthropomorphic animals.

That looks amazing, will have to keep an eye out for a sale.

Really I was hoping for something that would make me feel similar to being in an impressionist painting of a Parisian cafe, so I don't think either of those scratches that itch, but still good things to know about.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:56 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Zohar wrote:
SecondTalon wrote:Contrast is heavily inspired by it, but I think plays a little loosely with the actual technology and culture available at the time.

Seems interesting! Reviews are very mixed but it's so cheap it's not a big deal to try it out. Definitely looks darker than what I wanted though.


I've played it, it's far more.... Coming of Age of a little girl than anything? Figuring out family secrets and all? Not really dark other than lighting being dark and, given that the game involves you melding in to the wall and using the shadows as platforms, the darkish settings with spotlights make sense. The character you spend most of the time controlling is basically an imaginary friend, gameplay is platformer puzzle - not too many difficult jumps that I recall, but a lot of "Go here turn this then that then this now the shadows are right so you can walk up the wall". And, as you say, it's cheap.

Looking at the reviews, Gamespot gives it 5/10 and Metacritic 59%. If we're using "Numbers actually mean what they mean and not some the inflated scoring where games start at 7 and go up from there" thing, then.. yeah, 5 out of 10 is fair. It does some things kinda neat, it's not an unenjoyable experience, but I don't see myself playing it again, some of the story is a bit predictable as it goes so that when certain things are revealed you're left feeling "Wait, am I just *now* supposed to figure that out rather than figuring it out an hour ago, or is this the little girl finally figuring it out and why is there a disconnect there since aren't I the little girl imagining this woman running around or what?"

The shadow-running thing is neat, gets some good use, but there are also a couple of levels that are just irritatingly large. I also may have broken sequence on the jumping puzzles a few times since the way I got up some places is... really not how you're supposed to get up there, so that's nice that the game let me do that.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:17 pm UTC
by Reserve
SecondTalon wrote:The "Hiding from a superior threat until you have the weaponry/skill to take it down and foraging for stuff"? That's basically the Survival genre which is... far too large to list all of it here and covers things as broadly as the old Deus game series (where a simple infection from a scratch will probably kill you before an enemy does) to Minecraft (which is.. not that hardcore), though something like The Forest has an actual plot while something like Seven Days to Die does not.

Sci-Fi themed, especially where you yourself aren't going in to danger but you're ordering other things/monitoring systems/etc to keep your minions alive? Duskers, though your minions are Drones, not humanoids or other players.

Delving in to abandoned sci-fi settings, kicking ass and taking names and by kicking ass I mean doing everything exactly right or you'll get eviscerated? Space Hulk. If you can find either the originals or new release version of the boardgame, it'll set you back ... probably ten times what the PC game is, maybe more. Because even when it was being produced it was $100 for the new release and now that it's not.... There's also Steam Marines, which is Space Hulk with the serial numbers filed off so it's legally distinct.

Or were you thinking of something else?


Jorpho wrote:I find myself thinking of Paradroid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradroid

Perhaps Space Station Silicon Valley, from the people who would later make GTA?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Sta ... con_Valley

In terms of survival horror, I find myself thinking of Project Firestart, but that's probably pretty far off-base.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Firestart


Oooh, thanks for the suggestions. Those look real neat! I definitely was thinking more along the lines of having squishy flesh bodies to be torn apart when you make mistakes, though. I picked up Halfway, the game I mentioned in my other post... its too hard for me. Space Hulk would make me cry. I am not great at these games. The Forest looks interesting for other reasons... Project Firestart might be closest to what I was thinking.

Wish there were more Survival games that didn't involve crafting. At least no more crafting than broken device + batteries = fixed device.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:10 pm UTC
by SuicideJunkie
Zohar wrote:Really I was hoping for something that would make me feel similar to being in an impressionist painting of a Parisian cafe, so I don't think either of those scratches that itch, but still good things to know about.

You're not talking about Passpartout are you?

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:12 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
That doesn't appear to have much to do with the aesthetics of a impressionist painting from the turn of the 20th century France and more to do with being a modern-day painter.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:45 pm UTC
by Zohar
SuicideJunkie wrote:
Zohar wrote:Really I was hoping for something that would make me feel similar to being in an impressionist painting of a Parisian cafe, so I don't think either of those scratches that itch, but still good things to know about.

You're not talking about Passpartout are you?

Not at all what I was looking for.

Maybe something more in the vein of 80 Days.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:55 am UTC
by shobian
I am playing Ghost Reckon these days why not give it a try.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:17 pm UTC
by Quizatzhaderac
Text only RPGs: I've always been aware of them, but I'm not sure I've ever played one that wasn't a parody (i.e. Thy Dungeonman) or written on a friends calculator. I'm kind of curious to see what they greatest achievements in this strictly limited medium are like.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:04 pm UTC
by DaBigCheez
If referring to (theoretically) natural-language-parsing adventure games, then I think some of the "classics" are Zork and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; Space Quest might qualify if allowing some graphics to be involved, and Hugo's House of Horrors has some nostalgia value from when I was growing up. I don't know of many more recent entries in the genre, though, primarily just ones from well before the turn of the century. Not sure if ASCII-art roguelikes, such as NetHack, Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup, and Angband would qualify; there's lots of newer entries there, but probably not what you're thinking of.

While I've not played the original game, I played an homage to The Lurking Horror at the most recent Mystery Hunt, which was rather entertaining; might be worth looking into, or the homage was rather entertaining in itself even without the broader puzzle elements of the Hunt.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:31 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Quizatzhaderac wrote:Text only RPGs: I've always been aware of them, but I'm not sure I've ever played one that wasn't a parody (i.e. Thy Dungeonman) or written on a friends calculator. I'm kind of curious to see what they greatest achievements in this strictly limited medium are like.

Text Only as in Graphics?

Text Only as in Descriptions and no images, not even ascii?

Text Only as in Graphical but only manually typed text as a control (with possibly arrow keys for movement)?

RPG as in needing Stats, combat, loot, leveling, etc?

RPG as in playing a specific role of a specific person with specific knowledges (ie you can "Hack computer" because your character is someone heavily in to computer software)?

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:03 pm UTC
by Quizatzhaderac
Parsed text as input is the key thing as well as traditional read text as output. I'd say rule of thumb is that is that most of the game should be playable by a blind amputee with speech-to-text and text-to-speech set up on the computer. I wouldn't say it would need to be "pure"; one ascii art picture or 30 seconds of wasd-ing around wouldn't rule a game out, but the bulk of the content/mechanics should be text dependent.

As for "RPG" maybe the word "adventure" would have been better. In the broadest sense of either word. Basically not scrabble.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:33 pm UTC
by SecondTalon

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:50 pm UTC
by rmsgrey

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:52 pm UTC
by Ranbot
Quizatzhaderac wrote:Text only RPGs: I've always been aware of them, but I'm not sure I've ever played one that wasn't a parody (i.e. Thy Dungeonman) or written on a friends calculator. I'm kind of curious to see what they greatest achievements in this strictly limited medium are like.

Gemstone is one of the oldest text-based online RPG games (i.e. "MUD" or Multi-User Dungeon) running since 1988 (not a typo) and still active. They have free to play option and premium accounts.

Official site: https://www.play.net/gs4/
Game Wiki: https://gswiki.play.net/Main_Page
Wikipedia info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GemStone_IV

I had a friend in college who played Gemstone and it was old then... ~18 years later I'm shocked the game is still around, but sometimes there are good reasons things stick around.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:52 am UTC
by Activator
I'm looking for an RPG that I can finish in reasonable time ;-)
iOS or in browser

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:48 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Reasonable Time is subjective, also factors in to your playing style. You've also not listed a platform, so I'm going to suggest Shining Force. Fight a battle, do some stuff, fight a second battle, do some more stuff, maybe 3-4 fights per chapter. Eight chapters total, for 30 battles total. Can be beaten in a regular day's worth of play, if you just sit down and go.

Ah, there is a platform. Either I missed it or...

At any rate, Kingturn. It's basically Shining Force on iOS.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:04 pm UTC
by Ranbot
Activator wrote:I'm looking for an RPG that I can finish in reasonable time ;-)
iOS or in browser

Like Second Talon said, reasonable time is relative...
That said I thought Banner Saga was reasonably quick and it's a great game. The game is very linear and you can't go back. Choices matter. But that also means there's no messing around with side missions or going back to old areas to get stuff you missed, which tend to be my time-sinks for RPGs (the compulsion to complete everything). So, unless you just suck at the combat and have to replay sections a lot, there's only certain about content/play time available. Banner Saga started on PC, won a ton of awards, and has been ported to mobile platforms, and Banner Saga 2 and 3 are also available if you want more.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:28 am UTC
by Jorpho
Super Mario RPG is freakin' sweet and probably takes well under ten hours, but for iOS or in-browser you'd have to find a suitable emulator, and I'm not sure such a thing exists, especially for a game as complex as SMRPG. A better candidate in that vein might be Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.

I'm tempted to suggest The World Ends With You, which is also freakin' sweet, though I dumped a heck of a lot of time into that one in order to get 100% completion. It ought to go pretty quick if you're going for Any%.

Re: I need a Game Recommendation

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:54 pm UTC
by rmsgrey
Jorpho wrote:I'm tempted to suggest The World Ends With You, which is also freakin' sweet, though I dumped a heck of a lot of time into that one in order to get 100% completion. It ought to go pretty quick if you're going for Any%.


Depends - my last playthrough was pretty quick except for That One Boss, which may have taken me as much time to beat as the rest of the week...

Aside from the occasional extra-difficult boss, things are pretty bite-sized - there's added depth there to explore if you wish, but if you're just playing through the plot, it goes pretty quickly. You can save any time you're not actively in combat, and can adjust difficulty on the fly. Plus your attacks level up when you're not playing (for the first week since your latest save - with the rate decaying after 24 hours), so playing little but often gives an advantage over playing marathon sessions.