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Re: Diablo III

Postby WarDaft » Mon May 14, 2012 6:06 pm UTC

Obby wrote:In the US it's been $60 at every retailer I've checked. There was a short time where Amazon had it for 10% off if you ordered it within some ridiculously short time window and with a couple other items from them, but other than that it's been $60 pretty much everywhere here. I purchased it directly from Blizzard, because downloading is more convenient than having to wait (and pay) to get it shipped, or rushing out and hoping to find it in a store somewhere (and pay taxes on it).


Yeah, same around here I find, most big games are universally $60 at release, no matter how you get it.




Seriously though, what is it with Blizzard and releasing things on Tuesdays? It seems like if they can plan something, they plan it for a Tuesday.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby philsov » Mon May 14, 2012 6:18 pm UTC

My guess is that it's one of the farthest days from the weekend (ie, max playerbase), so if they run into issues that need hotfixing it's identified and fixed during the time it'll cause the least amount of disruption and downtime.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Diadem » Mon May 14, 2012 6:30 pm UTC

I purchased a digital copy after all. I just can't resist that kind of convenience. But now I can't download it. It says my order processed, and is available for download, but when I go to download page I can only download stuff for WoW and SC2.

Edit: And just when you complain the download link appeared. Strange. It said it was ready to download for over an half an hour before I got the actual link.

Edit2: Download at 3 MB/s. That's a pretty good speed, considering their servers are probably pretty overworked at the moment.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Menacing Spike » Mon May 14, 2012 6:32 pm UTC

Price: I waited for about a year and got SC2 9$ on Amazon (from a liquidation sale). Will probably do the same for D3, if I ever buy it (that will depend from the feedback on /v/ and reddit).

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Re: Diablo III

Postby mike-l » Mon May 14, 2012 6:34 pm UTC

Tuesday is battle net maintenance day. All WoW and SC2 patches come out on Tuesdays, in WoW it's the day all raids reset. I would imagine every Blizzard release in the foreseeable future will be on a Tuesday.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Will » Mon May 14, 2012 6:38 pm UTC

The vast majority of new videogames are released on Tuesday, to the extent that if I'm told the release date of a game, I automatically assume it's a Tuesday. This isn't a Blizzard thing, it's an industry-wide thing.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Diadem » Mon May 14, 2012 6:40 pm UTC

yeah, it's just one of those standards. Just like movies are released on Thursdays (at least over here).

I imagine for a major release there's a lot of last-minute work to be done. And after the release they again need to do a lot of work, keeping an eye on the performance of their server, fixing bugs that crop up, handling feedback and issues that customers might have.

If they released on Friday, their personal would have to work in the weekend. Same if they released on Monday. So Tuesday is probably a good day to release.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Ryom » Mon May 14, 2012 6:52 pm UTC

Diadem wrote:I purchased a digital copy after all. I just can't resist that kind of convenience. But now I can't download it. It says my order processed, and is available for download, but when I go to download page I can only download stuff for WoW and SC2.

Edit: And just when you complain the download link appeared. Strange. It said it was ready to download for over an half an hour before I got the actual link.

Edit2: Download at 3 MB/s. That's a pretty good speed, considering their servers are probably pretty overworked at the moment.


All major networks use a CDN which will put the actual server you are downloading the game from somewhere near you and should automatically load balance to another location if capacity is reached. Their actual registration server may be in-house however and if the gets overloaded may prevent logins.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Xeio » Mon May 14, 2012 7:34 pm UTC

They already have a 40-second "queue" ready for the login servers so that if you try to login and the server is too busy, it will park your request for 40 seconds (after which it will fail if it still doesn't manage to fit you in). Just to alleviate login spam. :P

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Re: Diablo III

Postby You, sir, name? » Mon May 14, 2012 7:58 pm UTC

Will wrote:The vast majority of new videogames are released on Tuesday, to the extent that if I'm told the release date of a game, I automatically assume it's a Tuesday. This isn't a Blizzard thing, it's an industry-wide thing.


Release date conventions are a bit regional. Usually timed to coincide with paydays or other favorable dates. That's part of the reason eu releases are often 2-3 days later than us ones (on friday).
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Ryom » Mon May 14, 2012 10:02 pm UTC

The installer is unlocked if you've preloaded.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Diadem » Mon May 14, 2012 10:04 pm UTC

Are you sure you want to put your email in there?

Anyway, game should run now, it's past midnight. It connected to the server, let me select "Yes" to three different eula's, and then said the server was busy. Keeps saying that now, but it says so instantly, it doesn't even seem to try to connect. Meh. I'll give it a few more minutes.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby You, sir, name? » Mon May 14, 2012 10:06 pm UTC

Huh? I've only seen midnight PDT. I.e. noon EU-time.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Diadem » Mon May 14, 2012 10:09 pm UTC

Each region opens at midnight for that region.

Edit: Half an hour of trying now and still no sign of progress. It just instantly tells me the servers are busy.

Blizzard I'm disappointed! I was expecting slow service, but no service at all? Did you really put down so few servers?
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Re: Diablo III

Postby You, sir, name? » Mon May 14, 2012 10:38 pm UTC

Oh, my client says pdt. Maybe because i selected the us-en client?
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Diadem » Mon May 14, 2012 10:57 pm UTC

You can select which region you want to log in on. But if I'm not mistaken global logins are only allowed once the game has released everywhere. So if you have the US version you can't login to Europe yet. Also you won't be able to access the EU auction house. Not sure why they put in that latter restriction.

Either way the game is down. Not just for me. The thread on the main diablo 3 website, announcing they are life, now has about 400 replies, and every single one seems to be from people complaining the game is down. So blizzard really dropped the ball on this one. If the servers already can't handle just people who have pre-ordered wanting to play, then what will happen if people who buy the retail package also start logging in, in a few hours?

As an aside: Does anyone know where I can find my game key? It doesn't seem to listed anywhere.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby You, sir, name? » Mon May 14, 2012 11:01 pm UTC

Don't know if its realistically possible to deal with this type of launch day flood. You'd to have a massive overcapacity at any rate.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby mfb » Mon May 14, 2012 11:04 pm UTC

If the servers already can't handle just people who have pre-ordered wanting to play, then what will happen if people who buy the retail package also start logging in, in a few hours?

In europe (or at least in germany), a lot of players with the retail package already got their game, too.

>> Does anyone know where I can find my game key?
If you bought it from Blizzard, it is tied to the Battle.Net account (and not transferable, as far as I know), no need for a key.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Diadem » Mon May 14, 2012 11:18 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:Don't know if its realistically possible to deal with this type of launch day flood. You'd to have a massive overcapacity at any rate.

Well it's always a problem. It's basically a ddos.

But overcapacity is not that expensive anymore. And they could easily reconfigure a couple of hundred WoW or SC2 servers if they wanted to. The peak in D3 players will coincide with a drop in SC2 and WoW players.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Izawwlgood » Tue May 15, 2012 12:15 am UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:Don't know if its realistically possible to deal with this type of launch day flood. You'd to have a massive overcapacity at any rate.

I think this is their fault largely for requiring you to log in to play the game.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby iop » Tue May 15, 2012 1:57 am UTC

Bah. I'm not getting up at 3am. I'd rather wait till the morning, and play when the normal people go to work.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby WarDaft » Tue May 15, 2012 7:10 am UTC

And yea, it is begun!

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Ryom » Tue May 15, 2012 7:13 am UTC

I made it into the game and logged in, but the character creator keeps timing out. Yay for online single player :/

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Coin » Tue May 15, 2012 11:26 am UTC

Got Diablo III, has no time to play :(
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Drumheller769 » Tue May 15, 2012 11:48 am UTC

I guess I wont be missing much going to work before playing this....I didnt play the beta so Im looking forward to diving in.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Chen » Tue May 15, 2012 12:09 pm UTC

Having experience with WoW expansions and even big patches, I figured I wouldn't bother trying to stay up late to play right as servers came up. In fact its why I didn't take today off work because I bet it'll still be a bit rough during the day. I'll just take Friday off instead (plus that makes it a 4 day weekend here in Canada).

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Avin » Tue May 15, 2012 2:46 pm UTC

Finished Act 1 and started Act 2. I only just barely got to a skill that wasn't available in the beta (I'm only level 14 - it's much more interesting not being extremely overlevelled).

So far it feels more of a sequel to Diablo than Diablo 2 did, storywise. Which is great. I started lolling as soon as the Act 1 boss was introduced and immediately anticipated his opening line.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Izawwlgood » Tue May 15, 2012 3:37 pm UTC

You finished act 1 at lvl 14? Wow. I played for about 45m this morning, got to lvl 8 after killing Leoric.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Avin » Tue May 15, 2012 3:56 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:You finished act 1 at lvl 14? Wow. I played for about 45m this morning, got to lvl 8 after killing Leoric.


Does that seem low or high to you? I pretty much zoomed through everything that was in the beta because I was completely bored with that content, having run through it dozens of times a few months ago. And then even after that I didn't bother exploring any area further once I found the exit or quest target.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby mfb » Tue May 15, 2012 4:05 pm UTC

Chen wrote:In fact its why I didn't take today off work because I bet it'll still be a bit rough during the day.

In europe, the login was difficult (did not work at all the first hour, afterwards it took ~45min until most of the players were in), but once you were logged in the gameplay was fine and without any lags.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Izawwlgood » Tue May 15, 2012 5:34 pm UTC

@Avin: Low I guess, but I suppose, with the beta, I repeated everything up to the Skeleton King 3-4 times before putting down a given character, and thus ended up around 10-11.

I took on the Skeleton King at lvl 7 this time, and he was way tougher than I remembered him being in the beta. My dogs were basically never in play, and even my templar got knocked out for a moment. A lot of kiting.

Heh, speaking of which, I ran into a mob named Alot of Terror or something like that.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Chen » Tue May 15, 2012 5:37 pm UTC

I'm seeing forum reports of people still complaining about log in issues and the like. I don't know what portion is actually the user's fault but I imagine some are still legitimate. In any case I'm still eagerly anticipating playing when I get home from work tonight. Hopefully the logins won't be too packed.

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Re: Diablo III

Postby Drumheller769 » Tue May 15, 2012 5:38 pm UTC

I used to have a bnet account when I played WoW probably 3 years ago. I have no idea if its still valid or if I can remember the password. Should I try to use that account (send password reset email) or make a new account?
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Okita » Tue May 15, 2012 5:58 pm UTC

Drumheller769 wrote:I used to have a bnet account when I played WoW probably 3 years ago. I have no idea if its still valid or if I can remember the password. Should I try to use that account (send password reset email) or make a new account?


Might as well try. Maybe there are bonuses linked to the account that you can use.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Will » Tue May 15, 2012 6:01 pm UTC

You can create a new account and sync an old WoW account to it. I don't think you get anything special for doing it, though.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Diadem » Tue May 15, 2012 6:22 pm UTC

I managed to log in yesterday about 2 hours late (Luckily I still had other stuff to do in the mean time) and played for a few hours, then got kicked out. Went to bed, this morning everything worked fine, but now they are down (or at least: slow) again. I guess it's rush hour now in Europe, everybody is playing now.

I hadn't played the beta, so I'm taking it slowly, exploring every nook and cranny of the game. Great fun. I'm pleasantly surprised at how smoothly the game runs at my computer. And the game seems pretty awesome. I'm now almost at King Leoric.

Oh, which reminds me: Is leveling up that blacksmith guy a good idea? Or is it a waste of gold?

Ah, my login just went through. Time to play! :D
edit: Guess just logging in is not enough to play. I'm in the main menu, looking at my hero. But I can't start a game.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Lostdreams » Tue May 15, 2012 6:29 pm UTC

Downloading now! Should be done by the time I get back home.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby Obby » Tue May 15, 2012 6:55 pm UTC

Diadem wrote:Oh, which reminds me: Is leveling up that blacksmith guy a good idea? Or is it a waste of gold?

At first it might be a bit expensive, but if you keep him leveled and able to make items that are approximately level-appropriate then the things he can craft for you are pretty good. I'm using three crafted items right now (level 14), since they all have 2 or 3 good stats, and nothing that's dropped for those slots has come close to making me want to replace them yet.

So, it's fairly expensive, but not really a waste of gold. Though that's only true up to as far as I am. I know to get it maxed out it will cost like 400k gold, so I have no idea if it's still going to be worth it to level later on. I assume it will be since Blizzard has said they wanted more of an emphasis on crafting compared to D2, though.

Playing the Wizard is good fun. Around level 11 or 12 it is kind of slow, but once I got Arcane Torrent and Twister, things really picked up. I just shred through the mobs now. Can't wait for my third friend to start so I can roll my Monk.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby The Utilitarian » Tue May 15, 2012 6:58 pm UTC

Could log in last night, gave up went to bed got up early, logged in, playing for hours of super fun with two friends. Half an hour ago Bnet service interruption kicks me (and ONLY me) offline, while my buddies have no problem continuing playing. 40+ minutes now unable to log back in. This is the thanks I get for defending the required battlenet connection. Sigh.
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Re: Diablo III

Postby mosc » Tue May 15, 2012 7:01 pm UTC

The Utilitarian wrote:Could log in last night, gave up went to bed got up early, logged in, playing for hours of super fun with two friends. Half an hour ago Bnet service interruption kicks me (and ONLY me) offline, while my buddies have no problem continuing playing. 40+ minutes now unable to log back in. This is the thanks I get for defending the required battlenet connection. Sigh.

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