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Re: Board games anyone?

Postby Thadlerian » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:20 pm UTC

Of the games I've played, Alhambra was the simplest. Build a palace by laying down tiles, and get points by being the player to own the largest number of a room type. The draw-money-cards system shouldn't be too difficult to convey.

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Re: Board games anyone?

Postby Yaf » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:36 pm UTC

Thanks Thadlerian

Sounds perfect (and different) for what we want to do. Its simple (to pick up) yet challenging & very commpettitive (everyones like to win). Appriciated

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Re: Board games anyone?

Postby Snark » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:35 am UTC

Just had an awesome 2p game of Innovation!!!

My wife used Agriculture to keep scoring 4's in the early game and managed to claim the first 5 achievements before I got any. But I teched ahead with Mathematics and got to age 6/7. I used Bicycle to move a 7 or 8 to my score pile and then, based off that, used a age 6 card with factories to score a bunch of 8s. Then I soared ahead in points and claimed the acheivements 6-9 while my wife was stuck in Age 3.

I had 4 achievements and used bicycle + the card that lets you draw one higher than the highest in your score pile to throw a 9 into my score pile, draw a 10, throw the 10 (and all my 8s and 7s from earlier) into my score pile. I was just about to try to draw an 11 on my next turn to end the game and win by having the most points by a longshot, when my wife plays a card to meld all of her 4s that were in her score pile and strategically place them so they all have crowns on top to claim wonder or world? with an age 3/4 card. She won 6 achievements to my 4.

Down to the last turn. So much fun!!!
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Re: Board games anyone?

Postby Krong » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:27 am UTC

Hey Snark (and others who've played Innovation), have you tried Glory to Rome? It's by the same designer and I'm curious about similarities and differences between the two.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:28 am UTC

Played this at my buddies 30th, it was pretty good. Not a lot of room for expansions, but good paced and strategic. I felt like there was good interaction with your opponents, and a reasonable amount of randomness.
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Postby BoomFrog » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:22 am UTC

Krong wrote:Hey Snark (and others who've played Innovation), have you tried Glory to Rome? It's by the same designer and I'm curious about similarities and differences between the two.
I played innovation about 10 times and glory to Rome twice. GtR has the same feel of cards so broken your in a race to break the game first which is pretty fun. I think I like innovation more because every card is unique but they are both good games. Very similar feels. GtR is simpler since you don't have the possibility of someone rearranging their stack and using a seemingly buried power.
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Postby 3fj » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:58 am UTC

After losing every game, my dad has been put off Innovation. From what I gather, his main problem with it is that it doesn't seem to flow very well to him, which is a sentiment I think I can agree with; even if I like the game. Even if you read everything aloud when playing it, you're bound to forget what some cards do, and due to the sheer amount of table space the game takes up the players aren't really in a position to read each others cards without being incredibly obvious about it.

For the last game I kept an early Yellow (I forget which one) that allows you to recycle one age higher to scale up to age 7, then rained hell all over him thanks to him being stuck with cards about 4 orders of magnitude less powerful than mine. On the other hand, he was scoring a lot of 3s and 4s which got him 5 dominations at the same time I got to age 10. If it wasn't for finding the 10 that demands everyone halves their influence pile, he would have won the game.

In other words, I think he likes getting screwed with if he can see where he slipped up and had a fair chance of preventing it.

Which, I think, is why the he liked the game of Carcassonne we played while I thought it was pretty dire. It feels like a minigame for getting a board started rather than a game in it's own right. I'll reserve judgement till we inevitably play a few more games. There's an Inns expansion yet to drag through.

I also might get another game, but I'm already getting a few stern looks from my mum for "cluttering her house with more boardgames".
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Re: Board games anyone?

Postby Snark » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:44 pm UTC

I have not played Glory to Rome, but from what I've heard, I guess I should pick it up if I ever wear out Innovation.
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Re: Board games anyone?

Postby novax6 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:26 am UTC

Been playing a bunch of Android: Netrunner, which is the remake of the old Netrunner CCG, originally created by the same designer as Magic: The Gathering.

It's not a CCG this time around though, rather the 'living card game' or whatever FFG wants to call it. Basically fixed small expansions rather than blind buy packs and boxes, which I think is vastly better; no more buying hundreds of dollars worth of packs over a long period of time and getting 70% worthless crap.

I still need to play it more to say for sure, but I think it's entered into my all time favorite 2 player card game spot. At the very least, it's in the top 3. Easily the best cyberpunk game I've seen, and I LOVE the asymmetric mechanics. One player plays as the Evil Corporation (4 to choose from), and the other plays as one of 3 Hackers trying to bring them down. Tons of hidden information and bluffing on the corporation's side, and lots of risk taking and cool hardware on the hacker's side.

The gist of the game is: the Hacker player needs to find and steal a certain amount of 'agenda' cards from the Corp to win, and the Corporation needs to get a number of these agendas out and 'advance' them (pay money and time, usually over a few turns) to the point where they are scored. The twist is the Hacker can hack ('run') into pretty much anything the corporation player has, including hand, trash, deck, and placed down assets to find these cards, but almost everything of the Corp's is played facedown to start with, so the hacker has no idea what any of it is. It could be a juicy agenda worth the taking, worthless assets the hacker can't use, or even worse, brutal traps and fake outs that are meant to look like agendas. Oh and the corp can protect all of their stuff with dangerous, annoying, blocking, or possibly deadly defenses, that the hacker has to break through with their own hardware and programs.

It's a ton of fun, anyone who has an interest in cyberpunk, 2 player card games with deckbuilding, or awesome asymmetrical gameplay should check it out. The base game (no expansion packs are out yet) is only about 20 bucks on amazon, which is a.....STEAL? :D

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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:35 pm UTC

I loved Netrunner! How good is the android interface?
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Postby clockworkmonk » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:56 pm UTC

The android stuff is good for fluff, the game itself has some big and some minor changes from the original, mostly dealing with formats. Now each player has an identity card that gives then an extra ability and there is a limit of 3 of the same card in a deck. The second change has mostly to do with a change of format and release.
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Postby novax6 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:06 am UTC

Haha I think there was a mis-communciation there.

Android: Netrunner is a psychical card game only, has nothing to do with android phones. FFG have an older board game called Android, so when they remade Netrunner they set it in the same world/brand.

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Postby BoomFrog » Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:01 am UTC

Oh yeah, I'm totally buying that when I move back to the US. Loved Netrunner, and this is the perfect format for re-releasing it. Hopefully the balanced some of the broken cards on both ends. Oh Rio de Janeiro City Grid, I will miss you.

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Postby novax6 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:52 am UTC

Yep! That's the one. Although it's much cheaper on Amazon (was $20 last time i check), which is a great deal for the amount of cards you get. Awesome game.

Been playing some of Merchants and Marauders too, which I know some people around these parts have played. Lots of fun, although our first two games were looooooong. Like the 2nd one we ended up having to stop after 3 or 4 hours when and most people were only halfway down the glory track. I can't think of any other games I own that run that long, except for Arkham Horror, and it's length is the biggest reason it rarely gets any plays.

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Postby Izawwlgood » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:43 pm UTC

M&M was a ton of fun, but I felt it was woefully unbalanced, and I hated the extent that randomness was included in battles.
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Postby natraj » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:05 pm UTC

my first game of merchants and marauders took ~5 hours because we were still sort of puzzling through the rules but after that, all my games have been 2-3 hours which is not so bad for board gaming. i think the first few times we just didn't know what we were doing which always makes it take a bit longer.
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Postby rmsgrey » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:56 am UTC

novax6 wrote:Been playing some of Merchants and Marauders too, which I know some people around these parts have played. Lots of fun, although our first two games were looooooong. Like the 2nd one we ended up having to stop after 3 or 4 hours when and most people were only halfway down the glory track. I can't think of any other games I own that run that long, except for Arkham Horror, and it's length is the biggest reason it rarely gets any plays.


Once players are halfway down the glory track, you should be into the end-game - a single sale of 3 in-demand goods at that point effectively gets you 2-3 glory points (1 directly and almost enough gold for another 2 points once you can stash it) while a successful merchant raid will usually get you 3+ glory points (1 for the successful raid and at least 18 gold unless your cargo gets hit) - or if you manage to attack and board another player and defeat their crew, their on-board gold and cargo (plus cashing in a bounty if they were a pirate) will often leave you a sale-and-stash from victory. Once players are in the position of being able to buy a win with stashed gold, the game usually ends pretty suddenly - I've even known players to be in the position of just needing to get the fifth glory point on the track to win with their 50 gold already stashed.

Three hours sounds about right for a 4-player game of Merchants & Marauders - if it's really taking too long, you can speed things up by letting the next player start their turn while the current player is doing a port action - as long as they're far enough apart on the board, and the second player doesn't touch the cargo deck until the first player has had a chance to buy cargo, the outcome of the round should be the same...

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Postby Izawwlgood » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:01 am UTC

Re: Netrunner;
Holy shit. This game is fucking awesome. I loved the CCG, but this is just a million times better. Comes with four themed decks for corp and runner each, and each plays quite differently from the others. The decks are well balanced, and the ability to kagigger in cards from another branch adds depth I haven't explored yet. The expansions are cheap; I picked one up for ~8-10 bucks.

I am so glad I got pointed at this.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:07 pm UTC

Anyone played Agents of SMERSH? I saw it recently referenced as being similar to the Tales of Arabian Nights board game, which I love.
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Postby IcedT » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:38 pm UTC

So I recently bought the Game of Thrones boardgame and tried to get a few of my non-boardgaming friends into it- 14 hours of pretty much nothing but GoT later, everybody's pretty hooked on it. Great strategy game, although we're a little iffy about faction balance (Stark's position feels a little weak and Greyjoy are strong enough to sometimes be a kingmaker by weakening Lannister, but we've yet to see somebody come close to victory with them). Anyway I'm thinking we'll make this a regular thing, which is fine by me.

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Postby emceng » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:55 pm UTC

I got Quarriors for Christmas, and played it quite a few times. I enjoyed it, but there are some issues. Essentially, it's a dice rolling game. Each turn you roll dice that can be creatures, attack with the creatures, and buy more creatures or spell dice.

It's easy to lose if you have two bad rolls. Which yeah, it's a dice game so that will happen. Many creatures just aren't worth buying, so they get ignored for the handful that are good/great. Dragons are for the most part overpowered. At least half the spells aren't good enough to be worth buying. Also, the games can finish quickly. In a three person game I scored 8 points in one turn, when the total to win the game is 15.

Overall, it's a fun, quick(30 min or less) game. Not deep strategy, but fun.
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Postby Zohar » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:03 pm UTC

I don't like AGOT because people usually take a huge amount of time to plan their turns, and I get tired of that. But we did play it a bunch.

A friend bought Risk: Legacy and we played to rounds of it yesterday. The premise is similar to regular Risk. However, you can only play 15 rounds of the game, and each time you play, you change the map - the winner can give themselves bonuses on certain continents or cities, destroy cards etc., and there are rules that get amended as the games progress. It's pretty cool - you're basically making the game your own. I won the first game on the second round, since we didn't understand the rules... Second round I lost.
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Zohar wrote:A friend bought Risk: Legacy and we played to rounds of it yesterday. The premise is similar to regular Risk. However, you can only play 15 rounds of the game, and each time you play, you change the map - the winner can give themselves bonuses on certain continents or cities, destroy cards etc., and there are rules that get amended as the games progress. It's pretty cool - you're basically making the game your own. I won the first game on the second round, since we didn't understand the rules... Second round I lost.

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and definitely don't pull up the trey from the box and ponder what lies beneath. It will certainly haunt you.
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Damnit, that was the secret!

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I think only knowing of it changes the way the game plays and adds FUN! (you know, like dwarf fortress)
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clockworkmonk wrote:I think only knowing of it changes the way the game plays and adds FUN! (you know, like dwarf fortress)

We spent three games debating whether or not to open it. Finally we set a "winner decides" game. Factions of FOR vs AGAINST emerged. The game stopped being about "What can I do to win" but "How can I get my viewpoint to win?"

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Postby IcedT » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:33 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:I don't like AGOT because people usually take a huge amount of time to plan their turns, and I get tired of that. But we did play it a bunch.

We have one guy who's like that. Eventually everybody gets really impatient with him and rushes him along, so it doesn't hurt the game too much, but if the whole group was like that I'd probably get tired of it too.

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Zohar wrote:I don't like AGOT because people usually take a huge amount of time to plan their turns, and I get tired of that. But we did play it a bunch.

We have one guy who's like that. Eventually everybody gets really impatient with him and rushes him along, so it doesn't hurt the game too much, but if the whole group was like that I'd probably get tired of it too.
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Postby clockworkmonk » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:26 pm UTC

The lucky thing is that most gaming shops (assuming you have one local) have play space,and if you love in an area with enough population you could probably use the internet to create a regular gaming group.

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clockworkmonk wrote:The lucky thing is that most gaming shops (assuming you have one local) have play space,and if you love in an area with enough population you could probably use the internet to create a regular gaming group.

It is what I do.

Maybe this is different in the UK, and I'm drawing from a pretty small sample, but I've never seen a gaming shop with play space except for Games Workshop stores, which are somewhat different. Independent gaming stores are normally tiny little places with floor to ceiling racks of games/books/miniatures, and not much space aside from that, I assume to keep the rates down, since I guess gaming shops aren't terribly profitable.

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Postby Eseell » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:51 pm UTC

Well, space is at a serious premium in UK cities, and it isn't in many USian cities. My favorite game stores all have huge play spaces for everything from Settlers to D&D to War Machines and 40k. The best one, Imperial Outpost, has space for all of those things at the same time and regularly stays open late into the night while nerds settle their disagreements on the field of battlefoam.
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clockworkmonk wrote:The lucky thing is that most gaming shops (assuming you have one local) have play space,and if you love in an area with enough population you could probably use the internet to create a regular gaming group.

It is what I do.

The real issue is that I am constantly travelling for work.... If there were places where I could just stop in, play the game and never see anyone again, that would work. But I feel like that's not really how any of those places work.
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Postby BoomFrog » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:16 am UTC

I've never tried it, but I bet posting to BGG asking for a pickup group in your destination city would probably work. http://boardgamegeek.com/forum/54/boardgamegeek/united-states

My second thought would be posting in your destination cities subreddit. Reddit has a pretty high % of gamers. Good luck.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:20 am UTC

The reddit suggestion is a great idea! I bet there's a subreddit; /r/pickupgames or something.

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Postby Dark567 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:24 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:The reddit suggestion is a great idea! I bet there's a subreddit; /r/pickupgames or something.

If you're ever in Boston, I'm game.
Well, if I am I'll invite you. That said, my base is in Lincoln Park, Chicago.... So if your ever in town and up for a game let me know.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:29 am UTC

Heh, I forgot you're in my home town... I grew up in LP.
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Postby rmsgrey » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:48 am UTC

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clockworkmonk wrote:The lucky thing is that most gaming shops (assuming you have one local) have play space,and if you love in an area with enough population you could probably use the internet to create a regular gaming group.

It is what I do.

Maybe this is different in the UK, and I'm drawing from a pretty small sample, but I've never seen a gaming shop with play space except for Games Workshop stores, which are somewhat different. Independent gaming stores are normally tiny little places with floor to ceiling racks of games/books/miniatures, and not much space aside from that, I assume to keep the rates down, since I guess gaming shops aren't terribly profitable.


Travelling Man (a small chain in NE England) and Fan-Boy 3 (an independent shop in Manchester, UK) each have a fair bit of event space - used for TCG tournaments as well as board-gaming sessions. Even if they don't host gaming sessions themselves, most FLGSs I've visited here in the UK have a noticeboard (or equivalent) for gaming groups to advertise - aside from anything else, helping maintain gamers' ability to meet up and play games supports demand for more games to play at those meetings - most gamers with no-one to play with quit collecting more games fairly quickly.

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Re: Board games anyone?

Postby ConMan » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:22 pm UTC

Some of the game shops in Australia that I know of have a ground floor packed with board games, and it's only when you go up a few flights of stairs to where they keep their RPG books and the like that there's also a game-playing space.

In other news, CanCon (big (for Canberra) games convention) is on in a week and a half. It's a bugger to get out to from where I live, so I don't know if I'll be going or not, especially since my girlfriend and gaming partner is still up in Japan.
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