Diablo II

[Mr. Beck]

I'm in the process of torrenting this amazing game now- I somehow lost my original disk.
Last time I went with a dual wielding barbarian. After beating the the game on normal (no LoD), I had the same experience where my character got owned by all the little Act I badddies. I got the the point where I was losing XP faster than I was gaining it.

This time around I think I''l do a Zealot Paladin, perhaps making him a Zmiter or 1pt. smite. I watched my brother play through the first two acts with a crackdin, and it looked quite impressive to me.

[Mzyxptlk]

I suppose I could go out and find the socketed weapon I need for last wish... you have any recommendations for what to use? I Already have the runes.

Berserker Axe or Phase Blade.

The BA does more damage but is slower. Additionally, the PB has a lower range, but is indestructible.

Grief I'd put in a Phase Blade. It's faster than the BA, though has less range. It's also less powerful, but Grief adds a fixed amount of damage (+340-400) regardless of the base weapon, so the difference is not all that big (BP 403, BA 418). Grief PB always hits the fastest attack speed, so you can use your gloves for other mods.
LW features a percentual damage boost (+330-375%), so the base damage is much more important there (PB 149, BA 215). You can make up for the lower speed with jewels and gloves. Take a look at Immortal King Boots/Gloves/Belt, I've put those on many characters and it always works well.

Phase blade, unless you're completely insane. IT DOESN'T HAVE INDESTRUCTIBLE ON IT. DO NOT WASTE RUNES.

Just because something is not indestructible doesn't mean you can't repair it you know. Larzuk is there for a reason.

I'm in the process of torrenting this amazing game now- I somehow lost my original disk.
Last time I went with a dual wielding barbarian. After beating the the game on normal (no LoD), I had the same experience where my character got owned by all the little Act I badddies. I got the the point where I was losing XP faster than I was gaining it.

This time around I think I''l do a Zealot Paladin, perhaps making him a Zmiter or 1pt. smite. I watched my brother play through the first two acts with a crackdin, and it looked quite impressive to me.

With all characters it's important to level a bit before you move to the next difficulty. I wouldn't recommend going to NM before level 42, nor Hell before level 75. Baal is probably the best place to get experience for melee barbs.

[Haistfu]

Just because something is not indestructible doesn't mean you can't repair it you know. Larzuk is there for a reason.

Another waste of runes = non-eth high-end runewords (with rare exceptions..)

[Aikanaro]

75 for Hell? I usually finished Nightmare around 60-65.....

Oh, and out of curiousity....are most of us on here pally-fans? I thought it was just me and one or two others that loved D2 paladins....

[Mzyxptlk]

Just because something is not indestructible doesn't mean you can't repair it you know. Larzuk is there for a reason.

Another waste of runes = non-eth high-end runewords (with rare exceptions..)

I see. Fair enough.

75 for Hell? I usually finished Nightmare around 60-65.....

Better safe than sorry, especially on bnet :)

Oh, and out of curiousity....are most of us on here pally-fans? I thought it was just me and one or two others that loved D2 paladins....

The Hammerdin is one of the most popular builds out there at the moment, in all classes. That said, I would not classify most people who pick that build as "paladin fans"; they're just attracted by whatever is strongest (and thus most boring). I like paladins because they're so versatile. You can tank with them, you can do ubers with them, you can melee with them, you can use elemental damage, you can even medic with them if you want.

[Aikanaro]

Heh, in addition to the "Holy Knight" theme, I also liked them due to the red-mage-ey-ness of them, being able to either be a scary melee OR kick ass with magic.

[Haistfu]

Don't put too much thought into your first character, as you'll rebuild once you have the gear to save points into strength and dex and such...

[Copper Top]

I suppose I could go out and find the socketed weapon I need for last wish... you have any recommendations for what to use? I Already have the runes.

Berserker Axe or Phase Blade.

The BA does more damage but is slower. Additionally, the PB has a lower range, but is indestructible.

Grief I'd put in a Phase Blade. It's faster than the BA, though has less range. It's also less powerful, but Grief adds a fixed amount of damage (+340-400) regardless of the base weapon, so the difference is not all that big (BP 403, BA 418). Grief PB always hits the fastest attack speed, so you can use your gloves for other mods.
LW features a percentual damage boost (+330-375%), so the base damage is much more important there (PB 149, BA 215). You can make up for the lower speed with jewels and gloves. Take a look at Immortal King Boots/Gloves/Belt, I've put those on many characters and it always works well.

Thanks for the advice. Phase it is because repairs can get pricey and I don't want to have to farm gold for both my merc AND repairs...

[Haistfu]

Another plus to the PB is that it has a relatively consistent damage output

[Gelsamel]

The only thing that is useful and not boring that I wouldn't put in a PB for a melee char would be say.. death.

[Azrael001]

Oh hey, a Diablo II thread. Are people currently playing regularly together? Does anyone have a desire to?

I usually play a paladin using Zeal and Fanaticism. Good times.

[Gelsamel]

Psh, Diablo was awesome but like I think I mentioned before... it's like the old lego set or old monopoly set in your cupboard. You get it out thinking it's going to be awesome and fun and then realise how shit it is compared to the stuff you do for fun now.

[Azrael001]

Don't kill my dreams, they're all I have left.

[Mighty Jalapeno]

Oh hey, a Diablo II thread. Are people currently playing regularly together? Does anyone have a desire to?

I tried, but no-one has posted account names or playing times except me.

[Azrael001]

I can't remember my account name. Azrael001 maybe, or maybe Cadell, or Cadell001?

I'll get back to you.

[Mr. Beck]

Psh, Diablo was awesome but like I think I mentioned before... it's like the old lego set or old monopoly set in your cupboard. You get it out thinking it's going to be awesome and fun and then realise how shit it is compared to the stuff you do for fun now.

You sir are wrong. Diablo is the best game of it's type ever- I just reinstalled it and am fully immersed.

[Gelsamel]

Diablo II is the best game of the Diablo Type... really? :-/

[Azrael001]

There are many that try to be like it (and a few that it tried to be like (*Cough* Angband *Cough*)) it still has the right balance.

[Jebobek]

I always thought It had the best speed and pacing. You play these other Diablo-style roguelikes and they slow down the fights to make the animations smooth. An example of this is dungeon seige.

[Haistfu]

Diablo was also the first online game I played that developed an economy in which one doesn't need any particular skill to still participate. I had a friend whose dad was a complete imbecile but he had a well-geared 94 hammerdin, -shrug-.

I always thought about how studying games like Diablo would be a good petri dish of sorts for studies on economies, considering how runes became a sort of currency like gold in that they also have their own worth to conterbalance inflation (in that the demand for the rune for use participates in its value as much as its circulation and whatnot). The influence of 'dupers' (aka the GOVERNMENT, what a beautiful analogy) caused inflation to an insane degree, bringing the worth of the rune down considerably considering the ratio was then disproportionate and in flux.

Basically the days before I quit are the days the US has yet to see that are lingering beyond the horizon.

[BoomFrog]

Diablo II is the best game of the Diablo Type... really? :-/

That's not really a redundant statement automatically. Is Doom IV (or whatever number it is now) the best FPS? Someone else could have improved on Diablo II by, but they haven't. Blizzard still reigns supreme.

[Bakemaster]

Man, in the last couple days I've really been wanting to start playing again. Probably because I went and watched some of the promotional stuff for D3. But I think I gave my discs to a friend and dunno if he used the CD key to log on to BNet. My old account's probably vanished by now, even if I could remember the login, but I might make another s/s support singer if I had people to play with as a group. I never had any high-end runewords, think I was using GF and stormshield and in the high 80s when I stopped playing it to mess around on a shock/zeal monk pally named LevarBurton for kicks.

You haven't truly had fun griefing midlevel PVPers until you've run up and punched them to death spamming "TAKE A LOOK! IT'S IN A BOOK!"

[Spuddly]

I made a healbot pally once. Was tons of fun. No one could die when I was around, with meditation giving +20 healing and spamming holy bolts for 600 hp apiece. Putting cleansing on also really, really helped. Got rid of those nasty poisons and crap like iron maiden.

[Aethernox]

I feel that Battle.net was simultaneously the best and worse parts of D2. It was the best online play of its time, sure, but people are asses. Seriously. And the fact that it now chooses to randomly ban me whenever I attempt to play has caused me to prefer Titan Quest, which has a much more refined single player, but badly implemented online play; and I never found any value in D2's single player...

[Mzyxptlk]

I'm hoping for some serious improvements to BNet for D3, but I think you're going to have to make your peace with the "people are assholes" bit. In any case I've not really encountered it too much, at least not beyond annoying keyhunters in Hell act 2.

[alia]

I made a healbot pally once. Was tons of fun. No one could die when I was around, with meditation giving +20 healing and spamming holy bolts for 600 hp apiece. Putting cleansing on also really, really helped. Got rid of those nasty poisons and crap like iron maiden.

I feel that Battle.net was simultaneously the best and worse parts of D2. It was the best online play of its time, sure, but people are asses. Seriously. And the fact that it now chooses to randomly ban me whenever I attempt to play has caused me to prefer Titan Quest, which has a much more refined single player, but badly implemented online play; and I never found any value in D2's single player...

http://www.Battle.net/tou.shtml

[SecondTalon]

Which part are you suggesting that he violated? nevermind, found the relevant text.. as I assume healbotting requires a 3rd party app.

(v) use any third-party software to modify Battle.net to change game play, including, but not limited to cheats and/or hacks;

[Jebobek]

Well yea, if Spuddly meant that he literally made a BOT. People say "I'm a healbot/cleansebot" in games like DiabloII and WoW, but they're just saying it because they manually heal/cleanse all the time, as if they were a robot assigned with one purpose.

[segmentation fault]

anyone have a pair of gore rider useast softcore ladder? let me know what you want for them.

and yes they arent that hard to find but i need them asap.

and yes. asap.

[Aethernox]

I feel that Battle.net was simultaneously the best and worse parts of D2. It was the best online play of its time, sure, but people are asses. Seriously. And the fact that it now chooses to randomly ban me whenever I attempt to play has caused me to prefer Titan Quest, which has a much more refined single player, but badly implemented online play; and I never found any value in D2's single player...

http://www.Battle.net/tou.shtml

I'm not sure why you're quoting me; I most certainly haven't violated the TOS. I was unable to connect to various realms after not playing for several months (six on one key, over a year on another), on multiple cd keys, on multiple computers, and with different ISPs with no apparent reason.

[Mzyxptlk]

I feel that Battle.net was simultaneously the best and worse parts of D2. It was the best online play of its time, sure, but people are asses. Seriously. And the fact that it now chooses to randomly ban me whenever I attempt to play has caused me to prefer Titan Quest, which has a much more refined single player, but badly implemented online play; and I never found any value in D2's single player...

http://www.Battle.net/tou.shtml

I'm not sure why you're quoting me; I most certainly haven't violated the TOS. I was unable to connect to various realms after not playing for several months (six on one key, over a year on another), on multiple cd keys, on multiple computers, and with different ISPs with no apparent reason.

You said you were using a bot. If by bot you meant an actual third party program (which violates the TOS), it's no surprise that you get banned.

[Aethernox]

I feel that Battle.net was simultaneously the best and worse parts of D2. It was the best online play of its time, sure, but people are asses. Seriously. And the fact that it now chooses to randomly ban me whenever I attempt to play has caused me to prefer Titan Quest, which has a much more refined single player, but badly implemented online play; and I never found any value in D2's single player...

http://www.Battle.net/tou.shtml

I'm not sure why you're quoting me; I most certainly haven't violated the TOS. I was unable to connect to various realms after not playing for several months (six on one key, over a year on another), on multiple cd keys, on multiple computers, and with different ISPs with no apparent reason.

You said you were using a bot. If by bot you meant an actual third party program (which violates the TOS), it's no surprise that you get banned.

I suggest that you read more carefully; in my first post on this page(which is the first post on this thread that I've made recently, if not my first) I say no such thing. Spuddly may have mentioned the word, but I neither spoke of it nor used any, and yet bnet refuses to serve me.

[Mzyxptlk]

Ah, I see. I apologise, I wasn't paying attention.

[AngrySquirrel]

I feel that Battle.net was simultaneously the best and worse parts of D2. It was the best online play of its time, sure, but people are asses. Seriously. And the fact that it now chooses to randomly ban me whenever I attempt to play has caused me to prefer Titan Quest, which has a much more refined single player, but badly implemented online play; and I never found any value in D2's single player...

http://www.Battle.net/tou.shtml

I'm not sure why you're quoting me; I most certainly haven't violated the TOS. I was unable to connect to various realms after not playing for several months (six on one key, over a year on another), on multiple cd keys, on multiple computers, and with different ISPs with no apparent reason.

You said you were using a bot. If by bot you meant an actual third party program (which violates the TOS), it's no surprise that you get banned.

I suggest that you read more carefully; in my first post on this page(which is the first post on this thread that I've made recently, if not my first) I say no such thing. Spuddly may have mentioned the word, but I neither spoke of it nor used any, and yet bnet refuses to serve me.

Actually, battlenet will temp-ban you for a lot of reasons. The most common are heavy lag, multiple joins and rejoins, skillspamming or spamming of other abilities (especially bonewall and meteor they love to kick you out of games for). You don't actually have to do anything that violates the TOS to get temp-banned. But the temp-ban is there for a reason, even if it does seem mostly annoying. And atleast when it comes to D2 they don't even perm-ban you for botting unless you are extremely obvious about it.

[Mzyxptlk]

And atleast when it comes to D2 they don't even perm-ban you for botting unless you are extremely obvious about it.

And even then. Have you looked at Hell Baalruns recently?

[segmentation fault]

And even then. Have you looked at Hell Baalruns recently?

i think they ban those every so often.

[Gelsamel]

You get temp banned for baal runs because of rejoins. Many many rejoins very quickly makes you look like a botter (although, most bots have timers to prevent rejoin problems) and causes other problems.

Spamming bonewall and meteor are often used to lag the server for duplication, so if you do that you get kicked too.

[Aethernox]

When I said that it bans me when I attempt to play, I mean just that; I have been temp banned before I am able to join any games. It was absurd.

[Gelsamel]

When I said that it bans me when I attempt to play, I mean just that; I have been temp banned before I am able to join any games. It was absurd.

This could be a problem with your internet/computers. I don't know all that much about computers (basically I'm about to talk out my arse)...but if something was wrong that caused your comp/isp to send too many messages to the battle.net servers then it may ban you quickly. Similarly there could be other things that force the server to ban you.

[segmentation fault]

oh hey blizz just banned a shitload of accounts yay.