That's part of the reason for the price. The herbs are more time consuming to farm in my experience.
But flasks and food are not optional. In progression raiding, a flask/food buff missing is the difference between a 1-5% wipe and a kill. You don't start in epic gear; and that's fine because you can't help it, but everyone suffers that handicap. Consumables are not an equal handicap, as there are people that come filthy rich off their mains in WotLK, and then there are new mains and newcomers in other servers who simply can't afford 300g flasks (minimum 4 hours is 1200g), a 200g stack of food, and about 150g worth of potions per raid night when the dailies at best provide 300-400g. Not everyone has multiple alts with gathering profs to supply their main with two crafting professions.
People are already putting 4 hours into raiding, do you really need to squeeze 2 hours of farming out of them as well?
I personally find the time requirement to be much lower than ever before. I can also say that I started this expansion with 200g, I have 2 crafting professions and no alts, and I have no issue paying for all my consumables and enchants with only an hour or two farming a week, and the only dailies I do are the JC daily and a random heroic for valor points.
As for the price of flasks, as I said, in the next patch the requirements are being lowered from 24 herbs + 6 volatiles to 16 herbs + 8 volatiles. In addition, the demand will decrease as more and more guilds get cauldrons, which will also decrease the price. The number of people buying darkmoon cards will go down as well, so we should be seeing herbs drop pretty heavily in price. I'd wager that flasks will be closer to 150g within a month.
meatyochre wrote:I don't think 10k is too little gold for myself, seeing as how I'm an alchemist/tailor/fisherwoman and my alt is an herb/miner. I farm all of my own raiding mats (and my guild only raids one day a week anyway, plus double flask durations) so I don't have any ongoing drains on my gold with the exception of repairs. I go through 2-3 flasks a week, just a few mana potions (I get good mileage from mana tide + arcane torrent + shadowfiend + hymn of hope), and less than one full stack of buff food. And I also provide the feasts for our guild's cooking slackers.
For a one night a week guild, though, I feel we're doing well. We've raided two days so far (raid day is Saturday and we couldn't raid during the holidays) and have killed Halfus, Magmaw, Omnitron, and Magmaw again--all on 25. Plus Baradin Hold, of course, though he's less "official". No wasted non-kill nights. IMO those bosses are not complicated. But we have a lot of first-time raiders (some of our dps) who tend to tunnel vision, unfortunately.
Is anyone else convinced that Blizz's official spelling of "Omnotron" is a typo? I refuse to spell it that way.
I never have much gold, I farm what I need for the next week, and can do it relatively quickly, but I don't see much value in having tons of gold just sitting around. I imagine my gold will start to skyrocket now that I've finished both professions to 525 and bought all the recipes, guild has cauldrons and will have fish feasts soon, but I'll also just farm a lot less.
Speaking of Mana Tide, I'm sad that in the next patch it will ignore procs, I get insane mana back during Tide right now by popping my Core of Ripeness and my Jeweled Serpent, but really, that's kind of broken. And rejuv is getting cheaper so that may well make up the difference anyway.
After 2 weeks of raiding we're 8/12 with just Chimaeron left of the non-end bosses. Council was... aggrevating to say the least, but aggrevating in the same way LDW was. Any fight where one person not reacting can wipe the raid is bound to be that way.