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Anyone remember the Mechwarrior games? Well guess what...

Postby Gravitas Shortfall » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:55 am UTC

Kind of surprised that no one has posted this yet. At least not that a search of the forum could find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl4eI3htAuA

I honestly haven't been this excited for a game since...well I suppose since the last one of these came out.
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Postby Xaddak » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:13 am UTC

*clears throat*

Ahem.

WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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Postby LuNatic » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:45 am UTC

Please don't suck like MechAssault, Please don't suck like MechAssault, Please don't suck like MechAssault, Please don't suck like MechAssault....

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Yay, a new Mechwarrior. I love the Battletech/Mechwarrior universe, and I've been wishing for this ever since Microsoft sold the license and shut down FASA. I'm a little worried that their last two games have been the mediocre NFS: Undercover, and the Transformers 2 license cash-grab, but the teaser looked like in-game Unreal engine footage to me, so hopefully they can keep to those quality standards(hopefully we will get a little more colour than the ugly gears of war palette though). Also, Mechwarrior 4 will apparently be released for free, which makes me ecstatic. I tried to get a copy last year but it isn't available in Australia anymore.
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Postby el_loco_avs » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:31 am UTC

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Wow. If this game does the control-scheme properly it's gonna be awesome. Did that car on the right bounce a little when he was walking by at the start? :mrgreen:
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Postby Phen » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:54 am UTC

Haha, looks cool. As much as I'd like to, I can't say I've ever played much Mechwarrior. I remember playing it at my dad's place, fooling around a bit, but I hope this'll be something to get into.
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Postby Beacons! » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:22 am UTC

Mechwarrior 4 was one of the games of my childhood. I am unspeakably excited for this! :D :D :D
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Postby Xeio » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:38 pm UTC

I won't hold my breath for a good mech game, but I'll hope.

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Postby LDJosh » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:51 pm UTC

and for those of you who DONT remember mechwarrior... or never even heard of it (shame on you...)

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/09/mechwarrior-4-free-on-battletech-com-soon/
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Postby Gravitas Shortfall » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:17 pm UTC

Beacons! wrote:Mechwarrior 4 was one of the games of my childhood. I am unspeakably excited for this! :D :D :D


Heck, I can remember playing Mechwarrior 2 as a kid. Best one was 3 though - only predated 4 by like a year, and managed to have better graphics. Plus in 4 they completely redid the Mechlab, making it so I couldn't put jump jets on my Timber Wolf (Mad Cat, for you Inner Sphere freebirths); clearly an unforgivable offense.
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Postby Phen » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:44 pm UTC

LDJosh wrote:and for those of you who DONT remember mechwarrior... or never even heard of it (shame on you...)

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/09/mechwarrior-4-free-on-battletech-com-soon/
they're going to give #4 away for free. soon...

Was just about to post that. Yay. :D As said, I don't have any of the games. I don't even know which one I tried...
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Postby Cryopyre » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:56 pm UTC

I can only remember one mechwarrior game, and it was on an old computer. Something about a Jade-something clan and a Wolf clan.

Can someone fill in the universe for me?
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Cryopyre wrote:I can only remember one mechwarrior game, and it was on an old computer. Something about a Jade-something clan and a Wolf clan.

Can someone fill in the universe for me?
Mechwarrior or Battletech?
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Cryopyre wrote:I can only remember one mechwarrior game, and it was on an old computer. Something about a Jade-something clan and a Wolf clan.

Can someone fill in the universe for me?


That would be Mechwarrior 2, set during the Refusal War between Clan Jade Falcon and Clan Wolf.

Basically in the battletech universe you have the Inner Sphere and you have the Clans. The Inner Sphere is basically a bunch of warring houses, all fighting to take over what used to be the Star League. The clans are descended from the Star League Defense Force, which fled the Inner Sphere 300 years earlier when the Star League collapsed, and in 3050 began an invasion of the Inner Sphere with the ultimate goal of retaking Terra. In 3052, the organization that controlled Earth at the time - Comstar - challenged the Clans to a Trial of Possession (basically a Clan ritualized battle for settling disputes) over control of earth, with the agreement that if the Clans lost, they would have to stall the invasion for a period of 15 years. The IS forces won, seemingly halting the invasion, but then some of the more aggressive clans, chiefly Jade Falcon started making moves to break the truce under a bunch of technicalities which basically centered around the false charge that the leader of Clan Wolf was a traitor who entered into the Trial fully intending that Clan forces should lose. That's where Mech 2 comes into the picture.

Mech 3 takes place a while later, during the Inner Sphere counterattack against Clan Smoke Jaguar, and Mech 4 covers a civil war on an inner sphere world shortly after the war.

Of course none of this really matters for the new game, which takes place in 3015, long before the clan invasion. Instead it's set during the 3rd Succession War between the various Inner Sphere powers that were left behind after the collapse of the Star League.
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Postby LuNatic » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:09 am UTC

Cryopyre wrote:I can only remember one mechwarrior game, and it was on an old computer. Something about a Jade-something clan and a Wolf clan.

Can someone fill in the universe for me?


1. That would be Mechwarrior 2.

2.
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MechWarrior is based on Battletech, and while there are small differences/contradictions here and there, the following largely holds true. Basically, it's the year 3000, everyone is pissed off with everyone else, so they race off to colonise space, create interplanetary empires, and engage in full scale war. In the process of all this happening, someone invented 20m high walking tanks called battlemechs, and the idea really caught on. Out of this chaos five major factions of power(and craploads of minor ones) emerge:

The Draconis Combine, ruled by House Kurita.
An empire based loosely on feudal Japan, with samurai, yakuza and ninja.

The Federated Suns, ruled by House Davion.
Sort of a vaguely socialistic successor to western society.

The Capellan Confederation, ruled by House Laio
An empire based loosely on pre-revolutionary China.

The Free Worlds League, ruled by House Marik
An alliance based loosely on feudal Europe, with knights, paladins and the like.

The Lyran Alliance, ruled by House Steiner
An economic powerhouse of unequal opportunity, where a large class division separates the rich from the poor.

After a few hundred years of war, all these major powers decide to form a UN style alliance, where trade and culture can flow freely for the common good, known as the Star League. Notable features of the Star League include a large combined arms force known as the Star League Defense Force, and a galaxywide communications network known as Comstar Unsurprisingly, this falls apart within a couple of decades. While things go largely back to the way it was before the Star League, the Star League Defence Force(led by General Alexander Kerensky) up and disappear out of known space, taken the best and brightest soldiers and scientists with them.

In the meantime, Comstar turns itself into a wacky cult, declaring its founder Jerome Blake to be a prophet, and adopts weird ceremonial rituals. Their monopoly over communications allow them to field a large army, and invade earth. They then declare themselves neutral to all the wars going on, and sit back to reap in some nice profit. This isn't a enough for some, who create an even wackier cult, called the Word of Blake, who start a civil war, and take control of Earth. They then declare a jihad against pretty much everybody, with the goal of rebuilding the Star League, which they would control. War continues.

A few hundred years pass, when an enormous army crusades into the galaxy. This turns out to be the descendants of the Star League Defence Force, now calling themselves the Clans, following strange caste system, in which might is right. This invasion causes a bit of strife, but eventually fails, leaving the clans as new factions in the ever ongoing wars.

From here on new factions form occasionally, some old ones die. Politics happen, and as ever, wars rage.



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Postby TheAmazingRando » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:22 am UTC

I'd like to go on record as having actually enjoyed MechAssault, as a rental.
Also, holy shit this looks awesome.

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Postby sillybear25 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:09 pm UTC

TheAmazingRando wrote:I'd like to go on record as having actually enjoyed MechAssault, as a rental.
Also, holy shit this looks awesome.


MechAssault was decent, but it was certainly not what I was expecting out of it. Prior to MechAssault, I had, out of the franchise, only played MechWarrior 3, and I was thoroughly disappointed with the lack of customization. An individual 'mech is a chassis, not an entire weapons configuration! I'm not even going into the 'mechs with different names for different configurations of the same chassis.

With that rant out of the way, I'd like to add that I would really like to see a Mech* game with customization reintroduced.
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Postby Phen » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:25 am UTC

Goddamnit they can't just be such teases and say oh you will get to play this for free soon and then say nothing for several days. DAYS!
It's making me consider finding a torrent for it instead since it'll be free anyhow.
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Postby RetSpline » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:30 am UTC

Ahh, Mechwarrior. MW2 was one of my very first games, and I still have the disk floating about, somewhere... The only Mechwarrior game I ever really got into was Mechcommander 2, and I've really been wanting to go back and play that, but I can't find the disk anywhere.

Regarding the video: how did the pilot not see that Atlas either from the recon drone or before the smoke clouded his view? The Atlas has a very distinctive shape, especially its head.

What's everyone's favorite Mech? I'm partial to the Raven for its useful sensor/ECM role in Mechcommander.

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Postby Gravitas Shortfall » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:12 am UTC

RetSpline wrote:Ahh, Mechwarrior. MW2 was one of my very first games, and I still have the disk floating about, somewhere... The only Mechwarrior game I ever really got into was Mechcommander 2, and I've really been wanting to go back and play that, but I can't find the disk anywhere.

Regarding the video: how did the pilot not see that Atlas either from the recon drone or before the smoke clouded his view? The Atlas has a very distinctive shape, especially its head.

What's everyone's favorite Mech? I'm partial to the Raven for its useful sensor/ECM role in Mechcommander.


Mechcommander 2 is actually available for free download already - check the links at the bottom of the wikipedia entry.
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Postby RetSpline » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:51 am UTC

Oh cool, thanks. Downloading now. Though, the screenshots look completely different from what I remember the game looking like. Must be the rose-tinted glasses.

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Postby aion7 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:14 am UTC

My dad actually worked on MW1, but I never really played any of the games. I guess I'll get 4 when it's free.
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Postby Kag » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:46 am UTC

sillybear25 wrote:An individual 'mech is a chassis, not an entire weapons configuration!
Actually you're generally wrong. Most 'Mechs do use specific loadouts, in exactly the same way as a real life tank. OmniMechs are by far in the minority of designs and see much less than traditional 'Mechs due to the great expense attached. 'Mechs in the BattleTech universe are generally far less customizable than the video games depict. The change is definitely one for the better, though.

Not that it matters, MechAssault was still horribly inaccurate and totally failed to capture the MechWarrior mojo. It would've been a pretty fun game, though, if the devs didn't have such a massive boner for their Magical Voodoo Homing PPC.

Actually on topic, new game looks awesome!
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Postby LuNatic » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:22 am UTC

RetSpline wrote:Oh cool, thanks. Downloading now. Though, the screenshots look completely different from what I remember the game looking like. Must be the rose-tinted glasses.


I Don't suppose you know of a link to a precompiled version? The one referenced on wikipedia doesn't work.
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Postby Phen » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:19 am UTC

Apparantly I'm also dimwitted right now, because I can't seem to find it...
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Postby Beacons! » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:06 am UTC

Mechwarrior 4 seemed to me to consist of putting as many long range missiles on a Vulture as possible and then sitting up on a hill someplace shooting down. Not getting any kills but loving the experience.
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Postby RetSpline » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:11 pm UTC

http://mechcommander.org/ is the link I used, which lead to http://mechcommander.org/index.php?opti ... lect&id=10. On that page there's a link to a mirror download and a torrent.

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Postby Phen » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:16 pm UTC

Oh. MechCommander 2, not Mechwarrior 2...
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Postby Gravitas Shortfall » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:03 am UTC

Something else to keep an eye on: http://www.moddb.com/games/assault-tech-1-battletech

If you do a youtube search, there are some pretty impressive demo videos.
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Postby Axman » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:19 pm UTC

Hell, I remember playing Mechwarrior as a kid... with paper and books.

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Postby LuNatic » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:09 am UTC

Phen wrote:Goddamnit they can't just be such teases and say oh you will get to play this for free soon and then say nothing for several days. DAYS!
It's making me consider finding a torrent for it instead since it'll be free anyhow.


From a quick skim of the mektek forums, it looks like they are integrating several community content patches, and then trying to put it all on one installer. I'm guessing this will take a month or two.
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LuNatic wrote:
Phen wrote:Goddamnit they can't just be such teases and say oh you will get to play this for free soon and then say nothing for several days. DAYS!
It's making me consider finding a torrent for it instead since it'll be free anyhow.


From a quick skim of the mektek forums, it looks like they are integrating several community content patches, and then trying to put it all on one installer. I'm guessing this will take a month or two.

Awesome. Nice to see a company besides Valve that supports custom content like this.
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Postby Madwolf » Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:58 pm UTC

LuNatic wrote:
Phen wrote:Goddamnit they can't just be such teases and say oh you will get to play this for free soon and then say nothing for several days. DAYS!
It's making me consider finding a torrent for it instead since it'll be free anyhow.


From a quick skim of the mektek forums, it looks like they are integrating several community content patches, and then trying to put it all on one installer. I'm guessing this will take a month or two.

Actually its kinda one BIG patch, the latest version of the Mektek Mechpaks, with some other additions of CP removal, a replacement MP matchmaker, and an autoupdater for when the very awesome MP4 (and potential future mods/patches) comes out. :D

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Postby Phen » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:20 pm UTC

It's okay, I torrented it anyway to satisfy my curiosity. :P
Struggling a bit with the controls as it's far easier to aim with the mouse, but I lack buttons there. Maybe when I get home to my regular mouse.
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Postby zedaid » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:36 pm UTC

Yeah, I remember Mechwarrior 2 for my old playsta... Oh.. Oh my. Oh my various gods!! YES!! Ten long years waiting for the glorious return of Mechwarrior! WOO!!!! *happy dance*
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Postby Madwolf » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:49 pm UTC

Phen wrote:It's okay, I torrented it anyway to satisfy my curiosity. :P
Struggling a bit with the controls as it's far easier to aim with the mouse, but I lack buttons there. Maybe when I get home to my regular mouse.

BE sure to DL the "real deal" when it comes out to or youll be missing out on some great toys. :P

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Postby Jourdy289 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:50 pm UTC

Cool, I downloaded the ISO of one and mounted it on a CD. I can't believe they're Open Source now. Blows my mind...
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Postby LuNatic » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:57 am UTC

So after nearly a year of legal hassle, Microsoft's lawyers have reluctantly allowed the free release to go ahead, and it should be available in the next few days. Aside from all the explosive goodness you may remember from the games original release, expect many more mechs, support for widescreen monitors and a whole slew of other fixes and balances.
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Postby Fat Zombie » Sun May 02, 2010 3:42 pm UTC

UPDATE

LuNatic wrote:So after nearly a year of legal hassle, Microsoft's lawyers have reluctantly allowed the free release to go ahead, and it should be available in the next few days. Aside from all the explosive goodness you may remember from the games original release, expect many more mechs, support for widescreen monitors and a whole slew of other fixes and balances.


It's Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries, plus Mektek's custom content (which is of a pretty high standard).

Good News: This was released! Friday, to be precise. It's awesome.

Bad News: The sheer influx of people who had heard the words "free" and "mechs" and were driven into a spittle-flecked frenzy to download the thing caused Mektek's server to explode. Apparently, just before it gave up the ghost, the server was registering 100,000 visitors.

So... Currently, Mektek's website is showing an Apache test page. This is an improvement on Nothing, so this means that hopefully the site should be back up soon. Whether they'll still be hosting the game though, is another story. Should do, though.

Man. I'm tempted to donate; I downloaded the bulk of the game a few days before (their games portal, MTX, is a bit of a faff), and downloaded the free-patch pretty much at the same time it came out, so I managed to get my free mechs. It seems a bit unfair that all they get is a destroyed server for their troubles.

Still. Free Mechwarrior 4.

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Re: Anyone remember the Mechwarrior games? Well guess what.

Postby Awia » Sun May 02, 2010 6:34 pm UTC

Fat Zombie wrote:their games portal, MTX, is a bit of a faff
By a bit of a faff you mean perhaps the worst peice of software I have ever had the misfortune of running, constant hangs, crappy conection speeds and an ugly GUI. In the end I got the torrent file and used uTorrent to download the game instead, much faster and infinitely less painful.
Sadly you still have to use MTX to run the game.
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Re: Anyone remember the Mechwarrior games? Well guess what.

Postby Fat Zombie » Sun May 02, 2010 6:47 pm UTC

Awia wrote:
Fat Zombie wrote:their games portal, MTX, is a bit of a faff
By a bit of a faff you mean perhaps the worst peice of software I have ever had the misfortune of running, constant hangs, crappy conection speeds and an ugly GUI. In the end I got the torrent file and used uTorrent to download the game instead, much faster and infinitely less painful.
Sadly you still have to use MTX to run the game.


Really? I still have it installed, so if you mean you can't uninstall it I have no idea. But for me MW4:Mercs has its own shortcuts, I don't need to run MTX to play it.
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