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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby CorruptUser » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:40 pm UTC

Bethesda should just get lazy and for TES VI Blackmarsh (or whatever they decide), release a DLC that is just Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim with the new combat system and so forth. Doesn't have to be the story or whatnot, just the territories with a bunch of random quests.

Though I would like something like you join the guild anywhere and get guild benefits in other provinces as a traveling wizard or whatnot and unlocked as you advance, but you advance in only one place.

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Postby Jorpho » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:06 pm UTC

The free "Skywind" mod for Skyrim is well underway, actually.

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Postby CorruptUser » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:40 pm UTC

Yeah but it's still a long ways off... Not looking forward to cliff racers. BEUWUWUWUW!

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Postby SecondTalon » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:19 am UTC

The problem is that the three maps aren't to the same scale. (Solsthiem and the Imperial Island are roughly the same size. Morrowind Sostheim and Skyrim Sostheim aren't even the same size, and both are substantially larger than the Imperial Islei Oblivion) So they couldn't just do an import. Not to mention the redesign of a lot of Morrowind areas needed as Levitate hasn't been a thing for a while.
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Postby CorruptUser » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:49 am UTC

Yeah, I'm not just saying 'import all of Morrowing, call it a day'. Take the basic layout of the place, create the terrain, add the towns and cities, throw in some dungeons and most of the monsters, call it a day. It's BY FAR not a simple task, but they don't have to experiment too much with balance or whatnot, don't have to create new stories, don't have to add in and test new features, etc.

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Postby headprogrammingczar » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:52 pm UTC

This is probably relevant. It appears to all work out if you use Bloodmoon's Solstheim.
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Postby Grop » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:40 pm UTC

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Postby Zohar » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:45 pm UTC

There's a pretty big sale over on the Square Enix store for almost all their games. However, you should know I found better deals on some of the games on isthereanydeal.com. For example, The Last Remnant was 6$ on their website but 5$ elsewhere, and Tomb Raider was 12$ on their website and 5$ elsewhere. I did get FFXIII from their store though, I hear they added a few updates for the PC port that make it better.
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Postby Xeio » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:25 pm UTC

Dragon Age Inquisition for $45 on Amazon. Quite a steal for a game not even 2 weeks old.

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Postby firechicago » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:24 am UTC

I generally make it a rule to wait a year or two and buy all my games at deep discounts (almost always less than $20, rarely more than $10) but I'm significantly tempted by Wasteland 2 for $27 on the steam sale. Anyone know if it's good enough to break my rule for?

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Postby CorruptUser » Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:49 am UTC

On Wikipedia it says it got decent reviews. So... eh.

Also, Portal 2 for $5. Planetary Annihilation for $6. Thinking of getting Portal 2, already have Planetary Annihilation, it's ok, but haven't played in a few months.

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Postby EvanED » Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:42 am UTC

Portal 2 is awesome.

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Postby emceng » Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:28 pm UTC

God dammit. Just realized I bought yet another game that I already owned. I'll have to see if I still have one as a gift that I could trade. I think I need to stop buying anything from Steam until i get my library sorted out and memorized.
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Postby New User » Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:45 pm UTC

How does that happen? Doesn't Steam tell you that you already own it when you are looking at the purchase page?

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Postby emceng » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:35 pm UTC

I think what happened was a bought a combo pack from Amazon, and only activated the games that I wanted to play. Then months later, saw one of the unplayed games on sale through steam, so bought it.
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Postby Jorpho » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:26 am UTC

I had a copy of Another World stored in my inventory, and then I bought it a second time the next time I went on sale because I forgot I had it there. :evil: This would be the downside to storing purchases in your inventory.

(Does anyone here want Another World..?)

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Postby emceng » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:42 pm UTC

Yeah, looks like I have copies of Hearts of Iron 3 and Victoria 2 to trades.
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Postby Xeio » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:06 am UTC

Sim City 2000 for free, because why not?

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Postby Mr. Mack » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:53 pm UTC

Xeio wrote:Sim City 2000 for free, because why not?

Because Origin, that's why not.
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Postby SurgicalSteel » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:38 pm UTC

I've had Origin on my machine for a while now and never had a problem with it. What are these issues people seem to have with it?
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Postby EvanED » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:38 pm UTC

I have Origin for Mass Effect 3 and the recent SimCity (and will grab SC2K because why not), and I don't have much problem with it... but at least a while back (a bit after the ME3 release), it semi-ignored your instructions to go offline. As in, if you told it to go offline it would do so, but then next time your started or resumed your computer it would "helpfully" go back online. I had to block it with Windows Firewall.

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Postby SurgicalSteel » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:39 pm UTC

That sounds like an annoying problem. I never tried to go offline with it, so I never encountered that issue.
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Postby SecondTalon » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:37 pm UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:What are these issues people seem to have with it?

Initially Origin's TOS had some overly broad clauses and a "We will totally sell your shit to 3rd parties at the drop of a hat. Hell, we'll give it away in a lot of cases" that spooked people. It was removed, but that stigma still hangs around.
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Postby Felstaff » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:19 pm UTC

Also, seeing as it's EA, who have won the prestigious 'Most Beloved Company In America' award for the fourth year running, I'm having trouble as to why people wouldn't trust installing data-harvesting software (that can access other third party software usage) from those swell honest johns.
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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:11 pm UTC

Well, yeah, but I didn't want to get in to that for personal reasons.
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Postby Xeio » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:21 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Well, yeah, but I didn't want to get in to that for personal reasons.
You know, for the number of games they developed/published. I don't think I've ever played any of them.

Maybe I should load up Wing Commander on Origin... I got it free too.

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Postby SurgicalSteel » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:31 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Initially Origin's TOS had some overly broad clauses and a "We will totally sell your shit to 3rd parties at the drop of a hat. Hell, we'll give it away in a lot of cases" that spooked people. It was removed, but that stigma still hangs around.
That makes sense. Past grievances can be hard to forgive.

Felstaff wrote:(that can access other third party software usage)
Hmm, well that sounds pretty shitty. Maybe I should uninstall it. It's not like I actually play any of the games the require it anyways.
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Postby emceng » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:34 pm UTC

Fucking IE ate my post. Recap - Endless Space - worth $6, or retread of older games like MoO2 or GalCiv2?
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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:38 pm UTC

Endless Space is the one that does the weird card game thing for it's combat. It's $6 worth of interesting for that alone.
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Postby Yakk » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:48 pm UTC

ooo, I like the sound of weird card game combats.
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Postby PeteP » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:06 pm UTC

Endless space is a good multiplayer game, I liked it quite a bit. When it worked that is. Which was never.
Seriously I and my friends never got to finish a game before reaching an unrecoverable desync. We tried several times because we really liked the game. And we are far from the only ones who had severe desync issues. And the annoying thing was that it didn't always immediately lead to an error it could take a while until you tried to make some trade for instance and it broke down. (Or you mentioned some system you owned and one of the other owns it in his version of the match.)
But distributing traits for your custom race, fitting your custom ships, trying to get enough of some ressource for the nice bonus. It is a nice game in theory.

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Postby emceng » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:11 pm UTC

PeteP wrote:Endless space is a good multiplayer game, I liked it quite a bit. When it worked that is. Which was never.
Seriously I and my friends never got to finish a game before reaching an unrecoverable desync. We tried several times because we really liked the game. And we are far from the only ones who had severe desync issues. And the annoying thing was that it didn't always immediately lead to an error it could take a while until you tried to make some trade for instance and it broke down. (Or you mentioned some system you owned and one of the other owns it in his version of the match.)
But distributing traits for your custom race, fitting your custom ships, trying to get enough of some ressource for the nice bonus. It is a nice game in theory.


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SecondTalon wrote:Endless Space is the one that does the weird card game thing for it's combat. It's $6 worth of interesting for that alone.


I like that sort of thing, I guess I'll check it out.
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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:38 pm UTC

It's basically a Rock-Paper-Scissors thing. You have a selection of four actions and select them during three combat phases. Overt Attack will hurt someone unless they're on Defensive Attack, things like that. They're named oddly, but have symbols on them to show you what matches what, if I recall correctly. It's also incredibly cinematic too.

Or you can hit the autofight button and it resolves in a second, so whatever.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:14 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Endless Space is the one that does the weird card game thing for it's combat. It's $6 worth of interesting for that alone.

The Endless Games seem interesting, but every time I look at them something about the play really turns me off.
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SecondTalon wrote:It's basically a Rock-Paper-Scissors thing. You have a selection of four actions and select them during three combat phases. Overt Attack will hurt someone unless they're on Defensive Attack, things like that. They're named oddly, but have symbols on them to show you what matches what, if I recall correctly. It's also incredibly cinematic too.

Or you can hit the autofight button and it resolves in a second, so whatever.

So, just rock paper scissors.

How is that an interesting card game?

... looking deeper, the "win" cards generate specific benefits, and the cards you get depend on your heros/tech tree choices.

Still, doesn't look that interesting.
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Postby Dthen » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:26 pm UTC

Speedrunners is super cheap at the moment. It's worth picking up, especially if you have friends to play it with.
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Postby SecondTalon » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:13 pm UTC

Because the battle phase also matters.

This thing explains it better as I'm not sure I entirely get it either. I just know that unlike a lot of 4X games, there doesn't appear to be an I-Win combat spam option.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:09 pm UTC

What's the resource management like? The reviews for Endless Space are so incredibly uninspiring.
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Postby bigglesworth » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:20 pm UTC

I was incredibly underwhelmed. I like the art and I like the background explanation for things like the 'dust' currency. But the actual combat isn't decisive enough for a war to be decided on anything but how well your economy is run and I didn't work out how to run it more efficiently than the AI. The system of connections means you can't out-flank (or be out-flanked).
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Postby PeteP » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:28 pm UTC

Maybe the AI is better than the AI in MP but the MP AI was so weak against tailoring your ship attack and defense to their ships since they were horrible at adapting to your specialised fleet. (But then we probably didn't put in on a high difficulty, AIs are mostly there so that we can destroy enemies utterly without ending the game because one of us has lost.)


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