Defense of the Ancients is win.

Of the Tabletop, and other, lesser varieties.

Moderators: SecondTalon, Moderators General, Prelates

User avatar
skeptical scientist
closed-minded spiritualist
Posts: 6142
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:09 am UTC
Location: San Francisco

Defense of the Ancients is win.

Postby skeptical scientist » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:53 am UTC

Discuss.
I'm looking forward to the day when the SNES emulator on my computer works by emulating the elementary particles in an actual, physical box with Nintendo stamped on the side.

"With math, all things are possible." —Rebecca Watson

User avatar
Castaway
Mr. Fancy-Pants
Posts: 2150
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:05 am UTC
Location: Brooklyn
Contact:

Postby Castaway » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:56 am UTC

warcrack is fail?
You've just lost twenty dollars and my self respect.

Rat wrote: so i sprinted back down this hill like a fucking mountain goat

User avatar
Vaniver
Posts: 9422
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:12 am UTC

Postby Vaniver » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:58 am UTC

Meh. I prefer the other WC3 custom maps to it, but will play it with family/friends when required. Razor is the only character I know how to play decently, with Clinkz as a close second.
I mostly post over at LessWrong now.

Avatar from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, owned by Hasbro.

User avatar
une see
Is my girl
Posts: 1038
Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:31 pm UTC
Location: a tenuous grip on reality
Contact:

Postby une see » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:38 am UTC

DoTA's pretty fun, but it's often ruined by horrible players.

Anyone else here absolutely despise backdooring?
T.S. Eliot in "The Waste Land" wrote:APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.

User avatar
pollywog
Let's party like it's my postcount
Posts: 1999
Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 10:10 am UTC
Location: Coolest little capital in the world
Contact:

Postby pollywog » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:39 am UTC

une see wrote:Anyone else here absolutely despise backdooring?


Your mother, unfortunately.
suffer-cait wrote:hey, guys?
i'm fucking magic

User avatar
Vaniver
Posts: 9422
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:12 am UTC

Postby Vaniver » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:49 am UTC

une see wrote:DoTA's pretty fun, but it's often ruined by horrible players.

Anyone else here absolutely despise backdooring?
I used to see it as a viable strategy, but now I'm pretty much against it. What I dislike is when one side decides the backdooring of another person on the other team means they all have unlimited right to backdoor.
I mostly post over at LessWrong now.

Avatar from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, owned by Hasbro.

User avatar
Toeofdoom
The (Male) Skeleton Guitarist
Posts: 3446
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:06 am UTC
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Postby Toeofdoom » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:33 am UTC

DOTA is fail. Dota is almost as much fail as counterstrike.

Do people have to think that "Hey, lets play warcraft 3" means "Hey lets play DOTA"? It gets really annoying... maybe people could try VARYING what they play....


/rant

sorry about that, but I'm in a games course at uni, and that kind of thing gets on my nerves when people not only think one game is the "best game ever" but limit that game to one or two maps.
Hawknc wrote:Gotta love our political choices here - you can pick the unionised socially conservative party, or the free-market even more socially conservative party. Oh who to vote for…I don't know, I think I'll just flip a coin and hope it explodes and kills me.

Website

User avatar
davean
Site Ninja
Posts: 2498
Joined: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:50 am UTC
Contact:

Postby davean » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:02 am UTC

Toeofdoom wrote:sorry about that, but I'm in a games course at uni, and that kind of thing gets on my nerves when people not only think one game is the "best game ever" but limit that game to one or two maps.


If you plan to do much with games, you better get to understand that and realize why it works that way.

User avatar
__Kit
Posts: 1576
Joined: Tue May 08, 2007 5:12 am UTC
Location: 16/M/NZ
Contact:

Postby __Kit » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:09 am UTC

Warcraft is okay, when I can play (internet cafe, in another town) but my friends are smart enough to be good at it, do I can pretty much take them all on with my natural abilities. (we all started playing when we went to the internet cafe) But I can only just stand up to like a regular at the cafe.
=]

User avatar
Fail
Posts: 57
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:43 am UTC

Postby Fail » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:05 am UTC

Made it a point never to play DOTA, after my friend got so fed up with it.

User avatar
Toeofdoom
The (Male) Skeleton Guitarist
Posts: 3446
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:06 am UTC
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Postby Toeofdoom » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:12 am UTC

davean wrote:
Toeofdoom wrote:sorry about that, but I'm in a games course at uni, and that kind of thing gets on my nerves when people not only think one game is the "best game ever" but limit that game to one or two maps.


If you plan to do much with games, you better get to understand that and realize why it works that way.


Oh I do. Its about balance, and a skill based game, while they do actually keep a variety of strategys open and stuff and many other things... I just dont like it because I suck at those games yet people seem to want to play anyway. I mean as a game player I hate those things, not as a possible game developer.

EDIT:
Its also about a way everyone knows what they're doing, you dont have to learn all the different maps, and particularly with dota and CS they were done *right* because they were made by users who arent so much on time limits as developers are. The games actually allow a fair test of skill, and currently run well on low end machines and dont have much in the way of bugs. Same thing with world of warcraft and other popular games (even guitar hero) they are highly polished games that do what they are supposed to, allowing for competition between people too (although apparently WoW isnt very "balanced" at the moment.

Still, there is no "best game ever".

And yeah, I was just thinking about this and decided to type it up cause thats more useful than not typing it.
Last edited by Toeofdoom on Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:28 am UTC, edited 1 time in total.
Hawknc wrote:Gotta love our political choices here - you can pick the unionised socially conservative party, or the free-market even more socially conservative party. Oh who to vote for…I don't know, I think I'll just flip a coin and hope it explodes and kills me.

Website

User avatar
skeptical scientist
closed-minded spiritualist
Posts: 6142
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:09 am UTC
Location: San Francisco

Postby skeptical scientist » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:23 am UTC

une see wrote:DoTA's pretty fun, but it's often ruined by horrible players.

Anyone else here absolutely despise backdooring?


I see it as a legitimate strategy. It's completely counterable, and sometimes seems like the only way to end a game. A win is a win, and anyone who complains about legal tactics used to get there is just trying to make excuses for losing.

Toeofdoom wrote:
davean wrote:
Toeofdoom wrote:sorry about that, but I'm in a games course at uni, and that kind of thing gets on my nerves when people not only think one game is the "best game ever" but limit that game to one or two maps.


If you plan to do much with games, you better get to understand that and realize why it works that way.


Oh I do. Its about balance, and a skill based game, while they do actually keep a variety of strategys open and stuff, and many other things... I just dont like it because I suck at those games yet people seem to want to play anyway. I mean as a game player I hate those things, not as a possible game developer.

Personally I've never been much of a fan of RTS games, and bought warcraft for DotA. I do play other maps occasionally, but I find that DotA, as a single map, manages to have as much or more variety and fun game play as most other computer games I've played, and is by far one of the most fun maps out there, so I don't see what's so wrong with playing it most of the time. If your main problem is that you just don't like it but most of your friends do, so you always want to play a different game than they do, the problem is not with DotA, but with [s]you[/s] the conflict between your and your friends' tastes.

By the way, how many of you guys play on Azeroth? My accounts there are Althai and QuantumGravity.
I'm looking forward to the day when the SNES emulator on my computer works by emulating the elementary particles in an actual, physical box with Nintendo stamped on the side.

"With math, all things are possible." —Rebecca Watson

User avatar
Twasbrillig
Tawsbirlig
Posts: 1942
Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:50 am UTC

Postby Twasbrillig » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:32 pm UTC

DotA, is, as is regularly said, the cancer that is killing warcraft.

I hate it.

HATE IT.

All of the custom game slots are taken up by it, leaving no room for GOOD custom games like HLW, LTW, the various colours of TDs, the various good RPGs, Risk, Commando Wars (best. game. ever), Tech Wars, Kodo Tag, etc!


Sure, DotA is fun, for a few games. After 10-20 playthroughs, it just get boring - it requires no microing and no multitasking. It's just Warcraft for people who suck at ladder games. I'm not objected to its brethren game Footmen Frenzy because that one actually requires a bit of microing skill, but DotA just plain sucks.
I want to have Bakemaster's babies. It's possible, with science.

I wonder if you can see...
...what is wrong with my signature?

wing wrote:I'm sorry... But that was THE funniest thing I've ever read on the interbutts.

User avatar
Istrom
Posts: 184
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:48 am UTC
Location: E-Town, Canada
Contact:

Postby Istrom » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:37 pm UTC

Is it wrong that I instinctively thought this thread was about Basshunter?

User avatar
skeptical scientist
closed-minded spiritualist
Posts: 6142
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:09 am UTC
Location: San Francisco

Postby skeptical scientist » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:52 pm UTC

Twasbrillig wrote:DotA, is, as is regularly said, the cancer that is killing warcraft.

I hate it.

HATE IT.

All of the custom game slots are taken up by it, leaving no room for GOOD custom games like HLW, LTW, the various colours of TDs, the various good RPGs, Risk, Commando Wars (best. game. ever), Tech Wars, Kodo Tag, etc!


Sure, DotA is fun, for a few games. After 10-20 playthroughs, it just get boring - it requires no microing and no multitasking. It's just Warcraft for people who suck at ladder games. I'm not objected to its brethren game Footmen Frenzy because that one actually requires a bit of microing skill, but DotA just plain sucks.

Why is the game bad just because skill isn't based on micro? Skill is very important in DotA, it's just that the relevant skills are different from the skills in ladder. DotA is all about good teamwork, supporting your allies, planning and leadership, and last-hitting and laning. Just because micro isn't as important doesn't mean that there's no depth to the gameplay.
I'm looking forward to the day when the SNES emulator on my computer works by emulating the elementary particles in an actual, physical box with Nintendo stamped on the side.

"With math, all things are possible." —Rebecca Watson

User avatar
Vaniver
Posts: 9422
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:12 am UTC

Postby Vaniver » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:53 pm UTC

DotA, is, as is regularly said, the cancer that is killing warcraft.

I hate it.

HATE IT.

All of the custom game slots are taken up by it, leaving no room for GOOD custom games like HLW, LTW, the various colours of TDs, the various good RPGs, Risk, Commando Wars (best. game. ever), Tech Wars, Kodo Tag, etc!
Um. You say that like there's a limited number of custom games that can be on bnet at any time. If someone *only* plays WC3 for DotA, it's not like them playing DotA is depriving you of players.

After 10-20 playthroughs, it just get boring - it requires no microing and no multitasking.
That's actually one of its strongest points, for me. I've never been a fan of microing in StarCraft and WarCraft, and so that's one of the reasons I rarely play the base game. Why is it terrible that it requires tactics instead of the ability to enact tactics quickly?
I mostly post over at LessWrong now.

Avatar from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, owned by Hasbro.

User avatar
Twasbrillig
Tawsbirlig
Posts: 1942
Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:50 am UTC

Postby Twasbrillig » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:55 am UTC

Vaniver wrote:
DotA, is, as is regularly said, the cancer that is killing warcraft.

I hate it.

HATE IT.

All of the custom game slots are taken up by it, leaving no room for GOOD custom games like HLW, LTW, the various colours of TDs, the various good RPGs, Risk, Commando Wars (best. game. ever), Tech Wars, Kodo Tag, etc!
Um. You say that like there's a limited number of custom games that can be on bnet at any time. If someone *only* plays WC3 for DotA, it's not like them playing DotA is depriving you of players.


Not true. It's like searching for a gold nugget in a giant pile of shit. All of the DotA games cover up the miniscule percentile that are good games.

In reference to the 'skill' aspect: if you want to play an RPG, go ahead. I'm playing a goddamn RTS. GTFO.
I want to have Bakemaster's babies. It's possible, with science.

I wonder if you can see...
...what is wrong with my signature?

wing wrote:I'm sorry... But that was THE funniest thing I've ever read on the interbutts.

User avatar
skeptical scientist
closed-minded spiritualist
Posts: 6142
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:09 am UTC
Location: San Francisco

Postby skeptical scientist » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:45 am UTC

It's not even close to an rpg. It's really a genre of one, as there are no games on the market which really come close. True, it's not an RTS, but that doesn't mean there's no strategy involved. You keep focusing on what it's not, instead of seeing it for what it is. Sure it's not much of an RTS, and many important RTS skills don't help you much. And you know what else? Lots of important first person shooter skills don't help you at all with Starcraft, so I guess there's no skill involved in that either.

But if you don't think skill is involved, feel free to put your money where your mouth is... I already posted my accounts.
I'm looking forward to the day when the SNES emulator on my computer works by emulating the elementary particles in an actual, physical box with Nintendo stamped on the side.

"With math, all things are possible." —Rebecca Watson

User avatar
Zohar
COMMANDER PORN
Posts: 8573
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:45 pm UTC
Location: Denver

Postby Zohar » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:15 am UTC

At first I thought this read "DoTT", which is of course awesome and wonderful.
Mighty Jalapeno: "See, Zohar agrees, and he's nice to people."
SecondTalon: "Still better looking than Jesus."

Not how I say my name

User avatar
ArchangelShrike
Rodan's Title
Posts: 1533
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:39 am UTC
Location: Waikiki

Postby ArchangelShrike » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:00 pm UTC

Ehh... What are you doing on TFT? Everyone knows that RoC is SOOOO much better...

/sarcasm

User avatar
Peshmerga
Mad Hatter
Posts: 2061
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:56 am UTC
Contact:

Postby Peshmerga » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:05 pm UTC

Never really liked DotA, more of a Sheep Tag kinda guy.
i hurd u liek mudkips???

User avatar
Phenriz
I'm daaancin' like a monkey!
Posts: 2450
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:33 pm UTC
Contact:

Postby Phenriz » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:07 pm UTC

more of a "tower d" guy myself.

autumn tower d
halo tower d
pokemon madness

and my favorite

speed d
I loveded you piggy, i lovded youuuu!!!

User avatar
Dr.Robert
Posts: 232
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:42 pm UTC

Postby Dr.Robert » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:50 am UTC

I just got into DoTa with my friends, but we only play it LAN, so we don't contribute to the DoTa fest on Battle.net.

I do miss tthe other games, though. WWIII, for example, was the shit when they had the clans and all.

PS: Obligatory video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y

User avatar
i like pi
Posts: 310
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:50 pm UTC
Location: yer mom

Re: DotA is win.

Postby i like pi » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:44 pm UTC

can i make the world a weirder place by mailing a bobcat to someone?
Or something to that effect. Hell, I don't know.

Aradae
Posts: 357
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:59 pm UTC

Re: DotA is win.

Postby Aradae » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:37 pm UTC

why did this need another thread?
Guys guys guys! I found Russel's teapot! . . . nevermind, it was just Jesus flying to Mars again.

User avatar
Kerberos
Posts: 189
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:41 am UTC
Location: Male

Re:

Postby Kerberos » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:04 am UTC

Twasbrillig wrote:It's just Warcraft for people who suck at ladder games.

I can't beat a Computer (Easy) and I also hate DotA.

Assassination for the win.

Aradae
Posts: 357
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:59 pm UTC

Re: Re:

Postby Aradae » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:45 am UTC

Kerberos wrote:
Twasbrillig wrote:It's just Warcraft for people who suck at ladder games.

I can't beat a Computer (Easy) and I also hate DotA.

Assassination for the win.


wow!
Guys guys guys! I found Russel's teapot! . . . nevermind, it was just Jesus flying to Mars again.

janusx
Posts: 88
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:46 pm UTC

Re: DotA is win.

Postby janusx » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:13 am UTC

I play dota quite a bit on US East (i think that's azeroth) mostly with my brother. Really the entertainment curve for dota is something like this

Code: Select all

                         /------->
                        /
        /----\       /
-----/       \      /
                \---/



At least it was for my brother and I.
Bascily when you first start you think hey this is kind of fun.
Then it gets boring
Then as you get better at the game, the game becomes more and more fun.

My nicks are: "veilrap" and "the_stix"

User avatar
b.i.o
Green is the loneliest number
Posts: 2519
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:38 pm UTC
Location: Hong Kong

Re: DotA is win.

Postby b.i.o » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:55 am UTC

It's fun with friends and/or when good games happen (generally those that last for 60+ minutes I consider good, since it means the teams had to be decently even). Other times you feel like you just wasted an hour of your life.

User avatar
Kerberos
Posts: 189
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:41 am UTC
Location: Male

Re: Re:

Postby Kerberos » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:14 am UTC

Aradae wrote:
Kerberos wrote:I can't beat a Computer (Easy) and I also hate DotA.


wow!

Well, maybe I can and I just don't have the patience. I dunno.

User avatar
Maseiken
The Candylawyer
Posts: 2827
Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:13 am UTC

Re: DotA is win.

Postby Maseiken » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:17 am UTC

Footman wars is somewhere between 50 and a trillion times better.
Mebbe that's just in a LAN environment, but I hate hate HATE DoTA.
"GRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOWR!!!!"
(Translation: "Objection!")

Maseiken had the ball at the top of the key...

User avatar
segmentation fault
Posts: 1770
Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:10 pm UTC
Location: Nu Jersey
Contact:

Re: DotA is win.

Postby segmentation fault » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:55 pm UTC

we are on ventrilo
playing some dota.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROpvzX3e5vw for those who missed it.
people are like LDL cholesterol for the internet

Dan Frank
Posts: 57
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:33 am UTC

Re: DotA is win.

Postby Dan Frank » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:26 pm UTC

I prefer ToB.

User avatar
Indon
Posts: 4433
Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:21 pm UTC
Location: Alabama :(
Contact:

Re:

Postby Indon » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:07 pm UTC

une see wrote:Anyone else here absolutely despise backdooring?


What's that strategy?

Personally, I'm not really a fan of the game, at least as I play it. I generally play on LAN with just a couple of friends against AI's, and I think the AI is coded poorly.

It plays almost flawlessly on the tactical level; since I have no desire to 'micro' by creep stealing or whatever it's called, that's annoying, and it leads to me being hopelessly outleveled and outitemed by the AI. But then on the other hand it plays incompetently on the strategic level, which makes it easy to defeat if you just never engage them and instead exploit their poor AI to destroy their base. It leads to an uninteresting game experience.
So, I like talking. So if you want to talk about something with me, feel free to send me a PM.

My blog, now rarely updated.

Image

dyzzy
Posts: 104
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:55 pm UTC
Location: Conjunction Junction

Re: DotA is win.

Postby dyzzy » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:21 pm UTC

The designers of the AI need to incorporate an option for a more fallible approach to last hitting and denying. The AI is way too good at it, and if left unmolested will demolish you in terms of exp/gold. For newer players who are uneasy about jumping into bnet pubs, this is very discouraging. Options such as "no deny / autoattack only," "%50 accuracy," and "Expert deny / last hit" would help newer players learn the ropes then up the competition. Sadly, I don't think the AI's strategy will ever see any huge improvements, but what helps is having human players order them around; the command interface (-cui) is very nice.

There could, however, be improvements to the specific hero tactics. If you are playing as Luna, for example, it is extremely easy to lure a computer away from their allies and hit your ultimate. The same could be said of Juggernaut.

Edit:
Backdooring refers to the practice of attacking enemy structures (towers, buildings) without your creep wave being present, which makes it a mid-to-late game occurrence. Though frowned on in general by many, it's technically legal in TDA so long as you do not use a teleport spell to get there-- thereby circumventing any map control tactics the enemy would employ to stop it.
//TODO: Write funny sig

User avatar
Ixtellor
There are like 4 posters on XKCD that no more about ...
Posts: 3113
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:31 pm UTC

Re: DotA is win.

Postby Ixtellor » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:13 pm UTC

I always come back to this game. I think I have to put DOTA in my top 5 best games of all time.
While I think Phantom Lancer needs even more nerfing, this game is well balanced and you can have a rewarding and satisfying gaming experience in 30-90 mins. Much more fun than grinding "just one more level", or shooting all my enemies in the face for the bazillonth time. Although I never quite get tired of OWNING a Cod4 server.


Ixtellor
The Revolution will not be Twitterized.

User avatar
headprogrammingczar
Posts: 3072
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:28 pm UTC
Location: Beaming you up

Re: DotA is win.

Postby headprogrammingczar » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:41 pm UTC

DotA can never beat: Starcraft: Tetris!
http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraft/Maps/starcraftmaps.zip
Open (1) Firing Line.scm
<quintopia> You're not crazy. you're the goddamn headprogrammingspock!
<Weeks> You're the goddamn headprogrammingspock!
<Cheese> I love you

Shpadoinkle
Posts: 74
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:12 am UTC

Re: DotA is win.

Postby Shpadoinkle » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:54 am UTC

I played a few games before becoming disgusted by all the assholes who played it and quitting.

Also, the description of backdooring doesn't make any sense to me. A player attacks an enemy structure without a creep wave? So? What's wrong with that? As far as I can figure, all that means is that the player won't have creeps to help absorb the damage that enemy towers dish out.

User avatar
Ixtellor
There are like 4 posters on XKCD that no more about ...
Posts: 3113
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:31 pm UTC

Re: DotA is win.

Postby Ixtellor » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:36 pm UTC

Shpadoinkle wrote:I played a few games before becoming disgusted by all the assholes who played it and quitting.

Also, the description of backdooring doesn't make any sense to me. A player attacks an enemy structure without a creep wave? So? What's wrong with that? As far as I can figure, all that means is that the player won't have creeps to help absorb the damage that enemy towers dish out.


1) There are a lot of douchbags that play Dota. But they usually want to win, and will do what is nessasary. What is worse are the clueless pubbers.

2) BD is not illegal in league matches. It is frowned upon in pubbies because once you hit the higher levels, some heros can run in and take out a tower or rax in seconds. It would take longer for you to run from the middle of the map to the hero pwning your rax, than it would for him to decimate a tower and one rax.
Games would be over insanely fast if people started suicide tower and rax attacking. And it takes very little skill to do so in a pub. Leagues use a lot more observation wards and utilize a LOT more map control and awarness so you can't just sneak in and do that,

Picture furion in a pub at level 12 with level 4 treants = gg.


Ixtellor
The Revolution will not be Twitterized.

User avatar
Gelsamel
Lame and emo
Posts: 8237
Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:49 am UTC
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Re: DotA is win.

Postby Gelsamel » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:43 pm UTC

The jargon... it hurts...
"Give up here?"
- > No
"Do you accept defeat?"
- > No
"Do you think games are silly little things?"
- > No
"Is it all pointless?"
- > No
"Do you admit there is no meaning to this world?"
- > No


Return to “Gaming”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AdsBot [Google] and 11 guests