Borderlands 2

[eculc]

Because there isn't a thread for it yet, and it's only about 5 months away.

Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCWJUSulnro

[Lostdreams]

Want.

The multiplayer co-op fights look they might be a lot more involved now, rather than the point gun at head and unload clip, reload, repeat.

[Endless Mike]

Can't wait!

[Coin]

What's with the change of music though? I much prefer Cage the elephant to this new dubstep-sound...

[skeptical scientist]

The multiplayer co-op fights look they might be a lot more involved now, rather than the point gun at head and unload clip, reload, repeat.

The Crawmerax fight was already like that—sort of a raid boss kind of feel. It would be sweet if they made more fights like that one.

[eculc]

What's with the change of music though? I much prefer Cage the elephant to this new dubstep-sound...

keep in mind, the original trailer (the one from E3) had a techno theme to it. I'm not sure what they'll be doing for their music; TBH, I'm not even sure what borderlands itself did with its music.

[Lostdreams]

The multiplayer co-op fights look they might be a lot more involved now, rather than the point gun at head and unload clip, reload, repeat.

The Crawmerax fight was already like that—sort of a raid boss kind of feel. It would be sweet if they made more fights like that one.

There should have been more in the first game. That was the only nonstandard fight out of the retail game and 4 DLC packs, unless you count

Spoiler:

the vault boss' tendrils

but they aren't really required to kill it you still are just shooting the one weakspot.

[EmptySet]

What's with the change of music though? I much prefer Cage the elephant to this new dubstep-sound...

keep in mind, the original trailer (the one from E3) had a techno theme to it. I'm not sure what they'll be doing for their music; TBH, I'm not even sure what borderlands itself did with its music.

The only thing I remember about the music in Borderlands is that there ain't no rest for the wicked. And, of course, that money don't grow on trees. As everyone knows, it actually grows on Skags, Rakk and Bandits, and can only be harvested with bullets.

[Lostdreams]

Bloodwing and Brick's fists can also cause money to erupt from enemies.

[eculc]

also, grenades and/or...more grenades. and getting run over with a car.

...do rockets count as bullets?

anyways, I'm a fan of dubstep, so that just makes the trailer even better. I'm looking forward to playing zero (zer0?). I mean, He's a robot ninja with a badass sword. how can you NOT like that?

[ProZac]

They've stated there will be no dubstep in Borderlands 2, that was just the 'marketing trailer'. Outsie off the that though, they stated in the trailer as well. "90% more wub wub" or whatever. 90% more of 0 is still 0. The new Siren ability looks awesome, but I predict the game is going to end up like 50% Zero's, 25% Sirens, and next to none of the other 2.

[eculc]

well, I know my friend is looking at nothing but salvador. He's to entranced by the idea dual-wielding rocket launchers to think of anything else at this point. My second choice would have to be...whatever his name is, the new soldier.

[AvatarIII]

What's with the change of music though? I much prefer Cage the elephant to this new dubstep-sound...

IIRC the dubstep was a joke playing on the fact that dubstep is recently very popular in game trailers.

[AvatarIII]

so not long until this is out now.

Who's pre-ordered? I couldn't resist pre-ordering, mostly for the mechromancer class, but I suspect that mechromancer and possibly even other classes may be released as DLC, which would be awesome i think the more classes the better, and it would act to distinguish this game from the first even more than it already is.

My main concern is that it took me like 18 months of playing on and off to complete the first game, and I have less free time now than I did back then, maybe if I play co-op more, I can complete it faster.

[eculc]

I have preordered (as of about 2 months ago) and am ready for release!

Re: not enough time: I never actually finished the original game (or even got more than halfway through it with a single character) until ~2 weeks ago, when me and a few friends decided to play through the story + DLC packs through completely to prepare for the release. in other words, don't sweat it, as long as you have fun playing the game. also: BRING FRIENDS.

[AvatarIII]

lol, it wasn't until I got the DLC that I really fell in love with the first game, if ever there was a game that has really great DLC, Borderlands is it. Although I hope Bl2 is as good as the first game plus DLC, out of the box.

[Dauric]

Preordred here as well. Looking forward to Zer0 though I like the soldier's new turrets. Managed to get my friends interested in it and got the 4-pack on Steam.

[ProZac]

I have the preorder, plan on playing Siren to start, as it was my favorite class in the first.

lol, it wasn't until I got the DLC that I really fell in love with the first game, if ever there was a game that has really great DLC, Borderlands is it. Although I hope Bl2 is as good as the first game plus DLC, out of the box.

This is surprising to me. I thought most of the DLC's for the first were crap. Zombies was way too travel heavy and killing zombies is overdone. The second was just an arena of shooting with crap loot. Not bad, but doing a set took too long I thought. The third was great. General Knoxx is one of the best DLCs ever, and the 4th was just a let down after the 3rd. Didn't feel like there was a lot of great content to it.

[eculc]

The only one I didn't really like was the 2nd one. the rest were good, although the 3rd was definitely the best--although they could have stripped out quite a bit of the driving we had to do to get from place to place.

[Dauric]

I didn't care for Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot, I'm not a fan of arena games, I much prefer missions and objectives to body-count. It's only redeeming quality (IMO of course) was the storage bank. Well, the bank and the vending machines that I could hit early on and usually get some good gear. I used T Bone Junction the same way, got a good shield there.

Zombie Island got repetitive, but then again zombies are repetitive. The Defilers and their sticky vomit were just annoying, and finding 200+ brains for

Spoiler:

Zombie T.K.

wasn't even remotely worthwhile. The travel in itself didn't bother me, the sticky vomit just made it harder to get through.

[AvatarIII]

I have the preorder, plan on playing Siren to start, as it was my favorite class in the first.

lol, it wasn't until I got the DLC that I really fell in love with the first game, if ever there was a game that has really great DLC, Borderlands is it. Although I hope Bl2 is as good as the first game plus DLC, out of the box.

This is surprising to me. I thought most of the DLC's for the first were crap. Zombies was way too travel heavy and killing zombies is overdone. The second was just an arena of shooting with crap loot. Not bad, but doing a set took too long I thought. The third was great. General Knoxx is one of the best DLCs ever, and the 4th was just a let down after the 3rd. Didn't feel like there was a lot of great content to it.

I think the best thing about Zombie Island was the tone and design, I agree killing zombies can be boring, but I still enjoyed it, The arena was boring especially since I barely played any Co-op, but the storage bank was invaluable. and I thought the last 2 DLCs were fine as an extension of the main story, I definitely agree that Knoxx was the best, although the driving was boring.

although saying that, the DLCs added to the game because they added a lot of variety to the main game, which was mostly wasteland and caves and a few shanty towns and even less military bases.

[Xeio]

Preordred here as well. Looking forward to Zer0 though I like the soldier's new turrets. Managed to get my friends interested in it and got the 4-pack on Steam.

It's cheaper on Amazon, even the 4-pack.

2 weeks is too far away.

[Dauric]

Preordred here as well. Looking forward to Zer0 though I like the soldier's new turrets. Managed to get my friends interested in it and got the 4-pack on Steam.

It's cheaper on Amazon, even the 4-pack.

Its always cheaper somewhere else after you buy it. It's a corollary to Murphy's Law, and why it's a law not a theory.

2 weeks is too far away.

Agreed.

[Xeio]

Its always cheaper somewhere else after you buy it. It's a corollary to Murphy's Law, and why it's a law not a theory.

I dunno, it's been cheaper for a few months, I ordered a single a while back. Though I'm not sure Amazon had the 4-pack (or the DLC season pass) up till more recently. I hadn't been looking when I went to pre-order at the time.

Oh, and if anyone hasn't seen this yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgJ1Ho55_hM

[AvatarIII]

can't you cancel the pre-order and order it cheaper at Amazon anyway?
Or does Steam not let you do that? (I've never pre-ordered anything on Steam so wouldn't know)

[ProZac]

can't you cancel the pre-order and order it cheaper at Amazon anyway?
Or does Steam not let you do that? (I've never pre-ordered anything on Steam so wouldn't know)

I preordered on steam when it went up at the discounted $54. Begrudgingly, because they didn't have the 4-pack for a better discount. Sure enough, 1 day later, they added a 4-pack. I emailed them asking for a refund explaining I wanted in the 4-pack, and they refunded me. I'm pretty sure it's in their terms that they offer no refunds though.

[Dauric]

"It" being cheaper after you buy it applies to pretty much everything. It's my usual snark after someone says "but it's cheaper elsewhere" after I've bought it. Someone always finds anything cheaper and informs you about it -after- you've made the purchase.

Amazon is $20 cheaper, about $5 a head, not worth the hassle of coordinating the return and re-ordering through a different vendor. If it was just me so I wouldn't have to explain and coordinate the change in plans, or if it was significantly more savings per person I'd consider it. This is why I get snarky about "but it's cheaper elsewhere". Sure it's price tag is modestly cheaper, but it's an increased hassle to change over and it's not necessarily worth it in time or effort.

[Xeio]

I'm pretty sure it's in their terms that they offer no refunds though.

Does that mean Steam bills immediately for pre-order items?

[ProZac]

While I had never considered that's different from most... yes, they do.

[AvatarIII]

Amazon don't charge until dispatch, and they charge you the cheapest it ever was between the time if preorderand the time if delivery. Meaning if it goes down after ordering you save money, and if it goes up you don't spend more than you've agreed.

[Xeio]

^Yup, why I like to pre-order from them over other places generally, also $.99 release date delivery for boxed games.

While I had never considered that's different from most... yes, they do.

It's becoming more standard to do so, Impluse shifted towards it after Gamestop bought it, not sure about GoG or most other distribution systems. I can usually understand it if there are bonuses available immediately (like pre-order this sequel, get the original now) but for a digital copy of just the game it doesn't make much sense. I just avoid pre-ordering most things more than a day out nowadays because of it.

[emceng]

Can someone list what the pre-order bonus is? blocked at work, and forgetful at home.

[Xeio]

Guns. Free Mechromancer class DLC. Exp booster item. And a key to open an in-game chest (likely with weapons in it).

[Zapheod]

If you pre-order from Gamestop you also get the Creature Slaughter Dome.

[Dauric]

If you pre-order from Gamestop you also get the Creature Slaughter Dome.

Given the reaction in this thread to BL1's Underdome I don't think that yet another dedicated arena is really that strong a selling point.

[eculc]

It might be fun if it isn't as broken as the one in the first game was. I tried to complete all the contests for it once, and after spending 3 hours with a (modded) infinite shield and an (again modded) instant-kill assault rifle without completing them, I gave up and haven't played since. if it's fair, then I might actually play, but that was just brutal.

[Wesley Foxx]

The only reason to get Moxxi is to get access to the bank and the exceptionally good vendors. It comes 'free' with the GOTY edition, so why not.

I was given the original game by a friend who wanted to play co op with me, and I then gave a copy to another friend who I wanted to play with. All three of us ran through the entire campaign and all the DLC (semi-except Moxxi, which we did one map of and said fuck that noise. No experience, junk loot, and way too fucking long, a total of 750 motherfucking waves all for ONE additional skill point, who would even consider that worth it.) and just finished a couple hours ago actually.
The 'grandpa' borderlands giver playing a sniper-rifles-only hunter, me playing a medic/support spec soldier with clip-size boosting Support Gunner, maining a Raven combat rifle, Desert Bulldog, a Defiler revolver and Sledge's shotgun (because breaking the game is fun), and the 'kid' first time player as a Firefly siren who melts the shit out of everything flammable with her Hellfire and fuckoff-powerful acid rocket launcher and also carrying Sledge for sequence-breaking and chest-grabbing.

Sadly, the third player's PC can only just handle regular Borderlands (her graphics card woes are a story in themselves, including additional capacitors exploding an entire week after being removed from the system after the first one popped) so it'll just be me and the longtime player doing the sequel together. He's going to be running longbow-sticky-turret-shenanigans Axton, I'll be running healer-and-elemental-facerape Maya. (Still a little peeved that they made the token chick the healer, but at least you can still heal people by shooting them in the face with rocket launchers)

[emceng]

Guns. Free Mechromancer class DLC. Exp booster item. And a key to open an in-game chest (likely with weapons in it).

Thanks!

If you pre-order from Gamestop you also get the Creature Slaughter Dome.

Given the reaction in this thread to BL1's Underdome I don't think that yet another dedicated arena is really that strong a selling point.

Yeah, agreed. I kinda want to get it(ooh, shiny free stuff!) but then think - it's not free. I can get BL2 from Amazon with no tax. I'd have to pay tax at Gamestop, and just not sure it's worth it. Also, Gamestop annoys me.

[eculc]

I never liked the firefly mod as a siren. even though fire SMGs were fun (read: combustion hellfire FTW) I still like my Savior, so I stuck with a mercenary mod for the entire game.

actually, at this point I think the only character I haven't played is brick. I might have to try that out this week.

[emceng]

Brick was the only guy I didn't enjoy. His special ability seemed to be 'get too close to the enemy so you can't really see what's going on, then die.'