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Postby OP Tipping » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:12 am UTC

This is quite a good movie. It does what thrillers are supposed to do, and McAvoy's acting is also en flique.

That's two good movies in a row for M. Night Shyamalan ... are we ready to forgive him?

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The Dunn cameo was not a surprise to me because I had seen the Wikipedia lede which, at that time, described Split as a "secret sequel" to Unbreakable. I was actually hoping for a much greater role for that character.
So I wonder whether MNS's character in Split is meant to be the same as his character in Unbreakable...

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Re: Split

Postby charliepanayi » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:22 pm UTC

Audiences have clearly forgiven him, this film's raking it in (off a very low budget).
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Re: Split

Postby natraj » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:00 am UTC

ugh this movie makes me furious. i am definitely not ready to forgive him for continuing to contribute to the demonization of people with mental illness. this movie is a hateful ablist piece of trash and i get so tired of media using mental illnesses -- especially highly stigmatized and patholigized ones -- as this violent trope.

people at large already (falsely) believe that folks with mental illnesses (and especially the ~super crazy~ ones like did, schizophrenia, bpd) are more likely to commit violence when the opposite is actually true, we're more likely to BE the targets of violent crimes. hateful films like this just contribute to that persistent stigmatization.
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Re: Split

Postby OP Tipping » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:37 am UTC

Dissociative Identity Disorder is, in any case, almost certainly a factitious disorder, ie people simply pretend to have dissociated personalities. This can be for various reasons, and it can be associated with real disorders, but the scientific acceptance of DID as a genuine dissociation of identities has evaporated in the last twenty years.

This is, as they say, just a movie, but some of the early information was presented in such a way that some viewers might have thought they were hearing actual information about DID. For instance, Dr Fletcher mentions that in cases of DID, one of the personalities will have an allergy, or diabetes: some in the audience might have come away thinking that was for real.

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Some good news (link contains spoilers for Split.
http://comicbook.com/2017/02/17/samuel- ... e-split-2/

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Re: Split

Postby natraj » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:45 am UTC

i literally have did so i don't need you preaching nonsense at me.

i still hate this hatepiece of a movie.

even if your incorrect reply was true which it isn't, people just conflate mental illness all the time anyway and one crazyperson is p much the same as another to neurotypical folk so it doesn't really negate the damage that it does constantly putting out movies in which crazypeople are all evil murderers.
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Re: Split

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:07 am UTC

I'm starting to regret approving this topic.
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Re: Split

Postby Diadem » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:44 am UTC

The trailer says: "From the writer and director of: The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, The Visit".

I wonder why they don't mention Lady in the Water, The Last Airbender and After Earth :)
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Re: Split

Postby Zohar » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:16 pm UTC

I'm pretty much 100% with natraj on this one. Which is great since I'm on a phone and don't feel like typing stuff in.
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Re: Split

Postby charliepanayi » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:37 pm UTC

natraj wrote:ugh this movie makes me furious. i am definitely not ready to forgive him for continuing to contribute to the demonization of people with mental illness. this movie is a hateful ablist piece of trash and i get so tired of media using mental illnesses -- especially highly stigmatized and patholigized ones -- as this violent trope.

people at large already (falsely) believe that folks with mental illnesses (and especially the ~super crazy~ ones like did, schizophrenia, bpd) are more likely to commit violence when the opposite is actually true, we're more likely to BE the targets of violent crimes. hateful films like this just contribute to that persistent stigmatization.


Probably best if you give Psycho a miss.
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Re: Split

Postby ameretrifle » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:48 pm UTC

charliepanayi wrote:
natraj wrote:ugh this movie makes me furious. i am definitely not ready to forgive him for continuing to contribute to the demonization of people with mental illness. this movie is a hateful ablist piece of trash and i get so tired of media using mental illnesses -- especially highly stigmatized and patholigized ones -- as this violent trope.

people at large already (falsely) believe that folks with mental illnesses (and especially the ~super crazy~ ones like did, schizophrenia, bpd) are more likely to commit violence when the opposite is actually true, we're more likely to BE the targets of violent crimes. hateful films like this just contribute to that persistent stigmatization.

Probably best if you give Psycho a miss.

You're aware that Psycho was originally made in 1960, right? And remade in 1998? Which is nearly 60 and 20 years ago respectively? And is generally, you know, kind of famous? I mean, I wouldn't denigrate anyone who hadn't heard of it, cause like xkcd points out, it's totally an understandable thing that happens, but assuming someone hasn't heard of it outside of any obvious reason to believe that could really be taken as condescending. You should be more careful about how you choose to be informative. Or more obvious in your patronizing. Whichever applies.


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