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Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Worse (animated feature)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:04 am UTC
by ObsessoMom
Saw this today with my husband and younger daughter. It was really excellently done--concept-wise, writing-wise, and art-wise. Lots of Easter eggs for fans to find in the backgrounds and stuff.

What I enjoyed most was how many nods the movie made to print-version comic books. I also really enjoyed the nods to anime.

My husband and daughter, both of whom should know better, didn't want to stay through the final credits to see if there was a (standard for Marvel movies) post-credits scene. I just researched it online and found that there was. DOH! Oh, well, I guess I'll have to wait for the DVD to see it.

Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Worse (animated feature)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:27 pm UTC
by Zohar
I believe I already posted about the movie in the fleeting thoughts thread, but I loved it. The post-credits scene is a combo of possible foreshadowing for a sequel with a comical scene, you didn't miss much. I'm sure you can find good descriptions of it online if you wish.

I noticed when Miles looks through his phone one of the contacts is Brian Michael Bendis, the creator of Miles Morales. Didn't have enough time to catch if the other contacts were other comic book writers.

Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Worse (animated feature)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:37 am UTC
by ConMan
I teared up, just a little, at the Stan cameo. It was absolutely perfect.

There were a few times, mainly in the final action sequence, where the artistic styles made it a bit hard to see what was happening, but otherwise I loved the film.

Minor spoilers:
Spoiler:
I am so glad to see some of the interesting alternative Spider-people getting airtime on the big screen, and I really hope that they manage to make a sequel that does the first one justice (while possibly letting us see a bit more of the second set of Spider peeps since they kind of all filled a similar role in this film). Spider-Ham was always going to be a bit of a joke character, but I'm not familiar enough with SP//DR or Noir to know much about their style of things. Gwen was great and I kind of liked that they were completely obvious about what happened to Peter in her universe without spelling it out - but at the same time, it means that we didn't get much in the way of how she and Peter B relate.

Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Worse (animated feature)

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:01 am UTC
by Jorpho
Lovely movie. Maybe not the greatest thing ever, but definitely better than most. The final action sequence left me wanting – a little too heavy on the random unstructured flashing-color madness. And of course I wish I hadn't seen so much of it already in trailers, or during the credits for Venom – though I can't deny the latter was a prime way to advertise it.

Sadly, I don't think they can get away with pulling the same tricks a second time, but they'll probably try anyway. I thought this bit on Spider-Ma'm was rather thoughtful.

Ironic that "Great Expectations" was thrown around when the titular "Expectations" refers to a source of income and the book arguably does not have much to do with "expectations" in the conventional sense. Oh well.

Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Worse (animated feature)

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:27 am UTC
by Flumble
It's been a long time since I've been amazed by (animation-style) visuals. :D I mean, the Lego Movie was 5 years ago.
Plenty of gags are delivered visually and I didn't feel that itch in the back of my head when a character tells what's happening on screen for a change (not sure though whether that didn't happen at all or whether I was too engrossed in the film to notice).
The story was nice and cosy even though there was a multiverse at stake. Well, they could've dropped two of the spider-entities for all I care (greyscale and porky), since they only stretch the runtime by about a minute and the film is full of comedy without them. But they're not awful like disney's comic-relief characters, I'll give 'em that. :wink:

Can't say I had trouble watching the final action sequence. I've watched a couple of Avengers films, too, this weekend and that was a blurry mess in comparison.

Zohar wrote:The post-credits scene is a combo of possible foreshadowing for a sequel with a comical scene, you didn't miss much.

Not much? It's one of the most hilarious scenes of the film! :mrgreen:

Jorpho wrote:Sadly, I don't think they can get away with pulling the same tricks a second time, but they'll probably try anyway.

I hear the Lego Movie has pulled it off for a second time, so maybe spider-entity can, too.

Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Worse (animated feature)

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:20 am UTC
by rmsgrey
Flumble wrote:
Jorpho wrote:Sadly, I don't think they can get away with pulling the same tricks a second time, but they'll probably try anyway.

I hear the Lego Movie has pulled it off for a second time, so maybe spider-entity can, too.

LEGO 2 isn't a surprise hit that came out of nowhere like the first, so it doesn't live up to it in that sense, but it follows up on the original both in telling a fun adventure story with some surprises, and in having a moral center behind the adventure shenanigans. Plus it has Bruce Willis voicing his LEGO self.

The biggest trap for a sequel, particularly when there's heavy corporate interest, is what Lorerunner calls Bullet Point Syndrome (I've been calling it Checklist Syndrome for years) - breaking down the original into component pieces, and making sure to put copies of all those pieces into the sequel, without understanding which pieces are important, why they're there, nor how they fit together. Matrix Reloaded is a classic example - you can almost put it on split-screen with the original and just check off the parallel scenes...

Hopefully Spiderverse 2: the Inevitable Sequel will avoid that trap - and, let's face it, there's plenty of room for them to explore if they don't limit themselves to the same little fragment of spider-lore.

I'm optimistic that Sony has caught on to the secret of making good comic-book movies: get competent movie makers who love and understand the comics, and let them get on with it. Maybe someday WB will figure it out too...