Izawwlgood wrote:Yes, the romanticism was a bit heavy handed, and yes, the logistics of the world wouldn't pan out (where did the babies come from? why was the ship ejecting waste?)
I think I mentioned this before, but certain aspects of the movie seemed to have been based on an old MAD Magazine comic satire (back when they were a comic book, doing satires of various comic book genres) called "BLOBS!", which in turn was loosely based on an old story from the early 20th Century (1908 or close to that) called "The Machine Stops."
I had posted a link to that story I think here and in the "Books You Think Every Book Reader Should Read" thread. In the story, the mothers don't take care of the babies. The Machine does, in a nursery of sorts. In the story, the humans are taught to trust and rely on the Machine to do just about everything for them. They are pretty much forbidden to leave their underground colony, and go up to the surface. The surface of Earth is so toxic that respirators are needed. The whole story focuses mainly on a woman and her son. The son has been exploring a bit, and has opened his eyes to the real world (sound familiar?). He tries to show his mother, but she's too afraid, and gets irritated or frustrated for the most part.
Izawwlgood wrote:But frankly, it IS a kids movie, and if kids movies now adays aren't pandering the old shit that disney used to put forth (Beauty and the Beast, Sleeping Beauty, Little Mermaid... All rife with pretty awful messages), but instead saying "HEY KIDS! Wake up and DO something, protect something you care about, and fight for something you believe in!" Then I say hell yeah! Wall-e was a great rendition of what all punks think they are doing; he was a simple childlike teacher showing people something unexpected and good for them.
What awful messages were those? Most of those were based (rather loosely in most cases) on fairy tales of the same name. In most cases, they couldn't really create a new message in the movie without completely ruining the story.
Some movies did have a message, be they based on actual works of literature like "Aladdin", "Hamlet" (used a bit in "The Lion King", as was "King Lear"), or if they were original works, like "The Incredibles", "Toy Story", "Finding Nemo", or "Monsters Inc". One of the recurring themes in Disney movies is the moral "be yourself" or "it doesn't matter what's on the outside; it's what's on the inside that counts" or some mushy moral like that. It's very prominent in "Aladdin" and "Hunchback of Notre Dame".