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Mad Men. Sexism and cigarettes abound

Postby Nick The Newbie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:48 am UTC

So they just showed the finale for the second season, and I'm thoroughly angry that I have to wait until spring for new episodes. Anyone else hooked on this show?

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Postby MiB24601 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:03 am UTC

Oh, it's really great. I have no idea where the next season will be pick and what the new status quo will be but I'll certainly be tuning in next fall.

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Re: Mad Men. Sexism and cigarettes abound

Postby Nick The Newbie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:14 pm UTC

Man how much was $500,000 back then anyway? Draper doesn't have to work another day in his life

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Postby apoklips » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:06 am UTC

The finale was great, I loved Duck's reaction when he found out Don didn't have a contract.
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Re: Mad Men. Sexism and cigarettes abound

Postby spacefem » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:34 am UTC

i watch it, but it's sort of a guilty pleasure. i like it for the same reasons i liked sex in the city... the characters wear amazing clothes but don't seem to work that hard.

I was afraid it would totally glorify sexism but I don't think it has, if anything it's a good example of how stressed out and crazy the men get trying to defend their perilous gender roles when the world can't look forward about the place of women.

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Postby MiB24601 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:47 am UTC

spacefem wrote:i watch it, but it's sort of a guilty pleasure. i like it for the same reasons i liked sex in the city... the characters wear amazing clothes but don't seem to work that hard.


Miranda actually seemed to work hard and Carrie is a writer, supposedly a pretty good one. I don't think it completely strains believability that she's going through drafts of her columns in her head as she is seen doing other things. Also, all the things that Carrie spends her day doing is the topic she's writing about so it's necessary for her to go out and spend a lot of time doing "non-work," otherwise her column will be woefully empty.
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Postby ChackraRed » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:51 pm UTC

Nick The Newbie wrote:So they just showed the finale for the second season, and I'm thoroughly angry that I have to wait until spring for new episodes. Anyone else hooked on this show?


Please! Any true fan will enjoy watching at least 3 reruns per episode, just to stare at the retro style.

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Postby tin » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:57 pm UTC

I don't understand this whole 'guilty pleasure' business over watching Mad Men.

It's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. No need for guilt, when you have fulfilling story arcs, exciting underlying tension, portraying the sense of change happening in the era and the most amazing women characters i've ever seen in a show. No to mention the sense of detail to the sets and costumes is obsessive, which makes it beautiful to gaze at.
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Postby apoklips » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:52 pm UTC

tin wrote:I don't understand this whole 'guilty pleasure' business over watching Mad Men.

It's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. No need for guilt, when you have fulfilling story arcs, exciting underlying tension, portraying the sense of change happening in the era and the most amazing women characters i've ever seen in a show. No to mention the sense of detail to the sets and costumes is obsessive, which makes it beautiful to gaze at.


Agreed. There's nothing to feel guilty about. Mad Men is brilliant television.
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Postby Ixtellor » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:43 pm UTC

I am hooked.

This show is brilliant.

The acting and 'shot choice' are just as good as the dialogue in telling the story. Lots of interesting story lines and a good reflection on society in that era.

I was talking with my mother about, who is 62 now, and she loves it because she said they nailed the sexism of the time.
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Postby dubsola » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:55 pm UTC

tin wrote:I don't understand this whole 'guilty pleasure' business over watching Mad Men.

It's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. No need for guilt, when you have fulfilling story arcs, exciting underlying tension, portraying the sense of change happening in the era and the most amazing women characters i've ever seen in a show. No to mention the sense of detail to the sets and costumes is obsessive, which makes it beautiful to gaze at.

Absolutely.

The Mad Men site has some recipes for the drinks they drink. I intend to try them out. Oh, and a fun little applet which lets you create an avatar.

Any word on Season 4?

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Postby Zohar » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:48 pm UTC

I started watching this show a short while ago. Just now I finished watching episode 12 of season 1, where we find out the full extent of what happened to Don in Korea. Spoilered though I doubt many people would mind at this point. :)
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What struck me most was how pathetic his "origin story" is - he pissed himself when he was attacked, which caused him to drop his lighter and blow up the gas tank. It's the complete opposite of Draper's current solid-rock absolute-confidence character. I loved watching him crack under the threat in this episode, not because of his suffering but because it was just so fascinating to see.


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Postby podbaydoor » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:11 pm UTC

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Postby smw543 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:40 am UTC

podbaydoor wrote:Has anyone seen the Sesame Street parody?

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Postby Sprocket » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:08 am UTC

This show is not sexist. This show is about sexism.

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Postby dubsola » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:50 pm UTC

I'm really enjoying Season 4, especially "The Suitcase". Epic episode.

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Postby Sprocket » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:24 am UTC

just finished season five. I really hope that having a successful wife and
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lane's suicide
don't HAVE to make Don a miserable philanderer again.
I did really enjoy the "you only live twice" music at the end, though.
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Postby Darkfusion » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:19 am UTC

Bump. Anymore Mad Men Fans out there? Season 5 was just added to Netflix on March 25 and the show returns for Season 6 on April 7.

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Postby GonzoMcFonzo » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:53 pm UTC

Watched the last season on netflix in 3 days, and it continued to be awesome. The new episodes likewise did not disappoint.

I think the attention to detail, and the level of consistency from season to season is part of what really makes this show great. They all used to smoke Lucky Strikes, but now they've understandably all switched to different brands (Don smokes camels, Harry smokes something with filters, etc) but Don still seems finds random packs of luckys in his desk sometimes.
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Postby Sprocket » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:03 pm UTC

So are we to believe as per last season, that Don was raped by one of the prostitutes he lived with as a teenager?
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Postby Sprocket » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:19 pm UTC

Does this happen to anyone else?

When I watch mad men I find myself constantly siding with the behavior of characters who end up being punished for their behavior, and constantly shocked and disgusted by the behavior or other characters who are later praised and rewarded for that behavior. And I'm talking like, behavior with people at the office, not Don's constant philandering, which is disgusting, but not what I'm referring to.

This show makes me feel stupid sometimes because of what actions end up being good and which end up being bad. My friend John and I disagree sometimes what the outcome should have been. I'm not sure if that's the show trying to be like "oh in a mans world being a flaming ass hole gets rewarded." or if it's "humans are weird, office politics are weird, weird shit happens." or if I'm just oblivious to the way the world works.
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Re: Mad Men. Sexism and cigarettes abound

Postby Nath » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:23 am UTC

I don't think Mad Men is the kind of show that tries to teach moral lessons. Characters do good and bad things, and their fortunes go up and down, but I don't think one of these things is supposed to cause the other (within the show's logic).

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Re: Mad Men. Sexism and cigarettes abound

Postby redraw » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:20 am UTC

Nath wrote:I don't think Mad Men is the kind of show that tries to teach moral lessons. Characters do good and bad things, and their fortunes go up and down, but I don't think one of these things is supposed to cause the other (within the show's logic).


Yeah exactly, it mostly hows how everyone has 2 or more to their personalit. Not just what you see on the outside or what they want you to perceive, whether they are 'good' or 'bad' IMO


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