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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Felstaff » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:25 pm UTC

  • Cube
  • Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
  • Un Chien Andalou

Freeeeeeaky.

And, to echo ST, 'twisted' ≠ 'plot twists'
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby SirMustapha » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:45 pm UTC

Hooray for Cube! I enjoyed it lotzzzzz.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby cypherspace » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:46 pm UTC

Crash (the David Cronenberg version).

It's about the only film I've ever had to turn off halfway through.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby korora » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:50 pm UTC

nona wrote:And Funny Games.

Watched this last night. Really liked it, but probably wouldn't recommend it. It definitely belongs in this thread for its level of toying with the audience's hopes/expectations--it takes horror-movie tropes and subverts/deconstructs them as brutally as possible. Major spoilers:
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-None of the violence takes place on-camera, which is meant to point out how unsatisfied you feel when you don't see the violence.
-One of the villains turns to the camera at multiple points during the movie and converses with the audience. "You're probably betting on the family". Later, "Don't you want a plot that has a real resolution?"
-At one point as they're playing mind games with the wife, she grabs a rifle off the table and shoots one of the villains in the chest. (Audience: "WOO!") Then the other villain digs a TV remote out of the couch, rewinds the movie, then moves the gun out of reach as she grabs for it.
-At the beginning of the movie, the kid brings a knife to the boat (for some boating-related task). There's a close-up of a rope incidentally knocking the knife into the boat, out of sight. It's a clear Chekov's Gun setup, but when the villains are in the boat with the wife tied up at the end, they catch her trying to cut her hands loose and throw the knife overboard. Then they toss her off too.

Also, Naomi Watts was absolutely fantastic.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby cypherspace » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:37 am UTC

I tried to remember this film earlier, and thought it was called Bad Taste, but that wasn't it... then it came to me in a flash of inspiration just now.

Society. Quite easily the most fucked-up thing I've ever seen.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby cephalopod9 » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:07 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:
  • Un Chien Andalou

L'age D'Or! It's like Un Chien Andalou, but an hour or two longer.
More freaky than twist, I think, but definitely of the messing with your head nature.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Phill » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:29 am UTC

SirMustapha wrote:Hooray for Cube! I enjoyed it lotzzzzz.


Ah, forgot about Cube. Yes, definitely - great movie, a real character study. I like movies like that, which are fairly simple and just revolve around the characters and how they relate to each other in difficult situations. "Flight of the Phoenix" (original 60s version with Jimmy Stewart and Richard Attenborough) is a good one for that, IMO one of the best films ever, but I digress.

Someone also mentioned "A Clockwork Orange", saw that as well. Haven't read the book but apparently it ends differently -
Spoiler:
I believe Alex becomes a normal member of society. I think I prefer that ending.


By the way, don't think anyone's mentioned "Being John Malkovich" yet. That was just incredibly weird, not really twisted, but I spent most of the time as I was watching it thinking, "WTF?!?!"

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Felstaff » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:05 pm UTC

Jacob's "Let's Fuck With Felstaff's Fragile Mind" Ladder.

I have a fear of subway trains thanks to that.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby tin » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:40 pm UTC

Holy shit, YES. My ex made me watch Jacobs Ladder...it was hard getting to sleep that night. Those 70's parties looked like fun though.

Also already mentioned, but The Happiness of the Katsuakari's and Tideland (so gawd damn keee-razy that Terry Gilliam pops up with a warning before the film starts) are high on my 'That Shit Is Crazy' list. Number one on that list though is Gozu by Miike Takashi. It's insane and I love it to bits.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby diotimajsh » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:37 pm UTC

Personally I put Cube under the "cheesy horror movie" category more than "twisted.". Not to say I didn't enjoy watching it, of course. :)

ETA: And if you want to see some real cheese, check out Cube 2: Hypercube or Cube Zero.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Joeldi » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:16 am UTC

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby anouk » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:37 am UTC

Donnie Darko. The ideas the movie explore are the twisted thing about it. They are making a sequel, S. Darko.
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It's about Samantha, Donnie's sister, eight years (or something similar) after he dies,
I hope it is released in cinemas in Australia, I doubt it though.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Jack Saladin » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:06 am UTC

Might wanna edit for bad spoilers.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby BMW787 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:44 pm UTC

Im suprised noboby's mentioned anything by David Lynch.

Eraserhead and Mullholland Drive are two great films.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby charliepanayi » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:48 pm UTC

BMW787 wrote:Im suprised noboby's mentioned anything by David Lynch.

Eraserhead and Mullholland Drive are two great films.


Don't forget Lost Highway. A pretzel of a plot if ever I saw one.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby BMW787 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:06 pm UTC

charliepanayi wrote:
BMW787 wrote:Im suprised noboby's mentioned anything by David Lynch.

Eraserhead and Mullholland Drive are two great films.


Don't forget Lost Highway. A pretzel of a plot if ever I saw one.


Almost forgot that one. Damn dopplegangers
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Pirate.Bondage » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:50 am UTC

"The Cell"

I couldn't fucking finish it, and that says a lot.
Scenes of child abuse and awful torture.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby TheAmazingRando » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:08 am UTC

If you want to talk about Lynch and twisted, I think Blue Velvet wins. Eraserhead was crazy and all, Inland Empire was mostly indecipherable, Twin Peaks was an awesome show, but only Blue Velvet has Dennis Hopper as a sadomasochistic man-baby.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby DonChubby » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:23 pm UTC

I don't know, Blue Velvet seemed like you're average mystery fare to me.
It's the least Lynchesque movie of his, that I've seen. It doesn't have any of that "what the hell is going on?" factor.

But yes, Dennis Hopper's character was absolutely awesome!
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby charliepanayi » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:33 pm UTC

DonChubby wrote:I don't know, Blue Velvet seemed like you're average mystery fare to me.
It's the least Lynchesque movie of his, that I've seen. It doesn't have any of that "what the hell is going on?" factor.

But yes, Dennis Hopper's character was absolutely awesome!


The Straight Story is the least 'Lynch' Lynch film, it's rather odd at first to watch when you're used to stuff like Blue Velvet and Lost Highway, but it's very good nonetheless.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Iori_Yagami » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:59 am UTC

Saw (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - with a bloody drive!) was not mentioned? :?
Also, Irreversible. More guts to twist...

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby SirMustapha » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:20 pm UTC

Saw is not twisted; it's just awful: a story designed to shock, without having any respect to the viewers' intelligence and to any sort of logic at all. I'm not complaining that films have to be 100% realistic, but when you have a super-duper-megavillain that can predict his victims' actions precisely down to the nanosecond and act like he can control things that are way beyond anything, it not only looks unrealistic, but it looks shallow, dumb and uninteresting as all hell - and no "edgy violence" can compensate. It's just dumb and lazy writing. Hell, just look at the third film:

Spoiler:
They devote and entire completely unnecessary flashback sequence JUST to verbally explain the massively flawed "twist" of the first film, which is probably something they made up on-the-spot to cover up their dumbness. FILMS DO NOT WORK LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.


Irréversible is just excellent.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby apricity » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:51 pm UTC

Some may disagree, but I think A.I. was one of the most twisted movies I've ever seen, second only to Hard Candy (mentioned earlier in the thread).
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Ixtellor » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:02 pm UTC

I didn't see Hostle mentioned.
It got fairly intense.

Is cube the one about the people trapped in a cube like maze or repeating rooms?

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Phill » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:55 am UTC

Ixtellor wrote:Is cube the one about the people trapped in a cube like maze or repeating rooms?


Yeah, pretty much. A few characters wake up in a sort of maze and have to travel through it, although each one is potentially booby-trapped.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby micco » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:02 pm UTC

I haven't seen these, but i have heard, that Guinea Pig movies are quite twisted.
Also, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is quite twisted too. So are the earlier movies of Peter Jackson.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby shieldforyoureyes » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:31 am UTC

micco wrote:I haven't seen these, but i have heard, that Guinea Pig movies are quite twisted.
Also, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is quite twisted too. So are the earlier movies of Peter Jackson.


Oh yeah - Dead Alive and Bad Taste are fantastic.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby cephalopod9 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:40 am UTC

Those seem more gorey than twisted. Although Dead Alive is the only one of that list I've seen, dismemberment and blood aren't in and of themselves twisted, that is to say, making the gore more extreme doesn't make a movie extremely twisted.

I got around to seeing Eraserhead... the "baby" will probalby haunt my nightmares for a while.

Brazil hasn't been mentioned, has it? There's only a moment or two where I'd say things are really twisted, but there is quite a bit of dark, dark humor.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby teamcorndog » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:21 am UTC

Caché is pretty crazy. I recommend watching it with a large audience...just for the fun of the huge gasp they'll make at one particular scene. :shock:

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Malice » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:12 am UTC

That scene nearly gave me a heart attack. I'm still not sure exactly how they did it, either.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby charliepanayi » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:24 am UTC

teamcorndog wrote:Caché is pretty crazy. I recommend watching it with a large audience...just for the fun of the huge gasp they'll make at one particular scene. :shock:


Get them to watch other films by Michael Haneke like The Piano Teacher or Funny Games (either version) if you want further fun.

Cache/Hidden is great.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Jack Saladin » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:08 pm UTC

Malice wrote:That scene nearly gave me a heart attack. I'm still not sure exactly how they did it, either.

What is it?

Edit: I haven't read much of this thread, so I don't know what's been mentioned, but I came across this page: Top 10 Sickest Movies

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby nona » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:53 am UTC

I really didn't enjoy Eraserhead-- and not in the "so twisted it made me uncomfortable" way. I stopped watching partway through because I just wasn't interested. On the bright side, now I know where the "In Heaven" song on the Pixies B-Sides comes from! If it weren't for that I would have considered it a waste of my time and attention. I'm sure there's all sorts of artistic value to it that went over my head. I just didn't care enough to subject myself to that.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby JennyWren » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:11 am UTC

SICK: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby colonelspecial » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:29 am UTC

The Cell was pretty twisted to me. I covered my eyes for most of it.

Pi: I still do not know what this movie was about. I watched it all the way through and thought I understood the plot but I reached the end and felt disappointed.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Pirate.Bondage » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:56 pm UTC

colonelspecial wrote:The Cell was pretty twisted to me. I covered my eyes for most of it.

If you're talking about the one I mentioned earlier...yeah. My parents were watching it so I sat down with them and I will always regret that.

I watch a lot of sick, bloody, horrible movies but NOTHING had ever scarred me until this movie. The scenes of child abuse kept me from sleeping at all that night. I will never watch that again.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Malice » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:12 pm UTC

Jack Saladin wrote:
Malice wrote:That scene nearly gave me a heart attack. I'm still not sure exactly how they did it, either.

What is it?


Spoilers for the best part of Cache/Hidden, watch out.

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The father goes to meet his childhood friend, who he thinks is the one fucking with his family. The friend says something like, "Please forgive me," and then cuts his god-damned throat with a fucking razor blade and blood spurts everywhere and he falls down, all in one shot, and it's so incredibly shocking. The film as a whole is inconclusive in a disappointing kind of way, but that scene was totally worth it.
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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Super Hans » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:56 pm UTC

I'd also say Funny Games. Throughout the whole thing you genuinely don't know what's going to happen next, and it manages to shock the audience repeatedly. Not to mention that the entire thing is just disturbing.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Rachel! » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:07 pm UTC

oh man this thread is so exciting! I am fascinated by the macabre.

Some movies to check out (don't worry, I won't ruin plots, just some very short overviews under spoilers):

Hard Candy, as mentioned previously.
Spoiler:
You don't know who the protagonist or antagonist are until the end.


Baby of Macon (with a fancy thing over the "a" in "Macon" that I can't type since work doesn't support unicode)
Spoiler:
It's a play within a movie, you see the interactions of the play audience with the play actors. Very fun movie and **trigger-warning** very nasty scene at the end breaking down the 4th wall.

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Re: Most twisted movie you've seen?

Postby Julien » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:59 pm UTC

"All this and World War II" is certainly the most twisted movie I've ever seen.
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