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Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

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Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Bartimaeus » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:13 am UTC

Better being a combination of their skills at fighting, intelligence, attractiveness, etc. The characters, not the actresses, so don't include stuff from other movies, series, etc. Just wondering what other people think, personally I prefer River.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Socal Swimmer » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:21 am UTC

different question:

whats better: posting in the right forum(self-reliant) or waiting for a mod to move it there(lazy)?
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Bartimaeus » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:40 am UTC

what forum should it be in? Damn I seriously didn't think to put it in movies lol
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Cleverdan22 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:11 pm UTC

River. River River River. I'm a bit biased, cause I just finished watching Serenity, but c'mon. River has more depth, anyway. And anybody who's killing mode is triggered by a crazy Japanese commercial is cooler than just about anything.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby ParanoidDrone » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:14 pm UTC

Okay, who voted Trinity?

River Tam all the way. Waif Fu > Bullet Time.

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Cheese » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:15 pm UTC

I've not seen Firefly yet, so can't vote. I feel all icky.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby ParanoidDrone » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:17 pm UTC

You. To your nearest DVD retailer. Get it. Or Serenity. Now. Good boy.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Cheese » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:30 pm UTC

Nearing 10pm on New Years Day? Some chance.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby ParanoidDrone » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:37 pm UTC

Oh, right.

Tomorrow, then.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Dibley » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:34 pm UTC

Or, you know, Hulu.

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Luthen » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:01 am UTC

River! Come on, she can kill Trinity with her brain!

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby crickets » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:40 am UTC

I can't believe this is even a competition.

In that i actually /want/ to know more about River Tam.
Maybe it has something to do with Firefly/Serenity getting cut so short...

Or that i think Trinity is incredibly dull in comparison.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby MoonBuggy » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:14 am UTC

It's got to be River - like crickets said, you actually come to care about her character. Trinity dying is a kind of sad moment, but meh. Serenity on the other hand, nearly* made me cry.

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby chipbeef9109 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:53 am UTC

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I'd definitely recommend buying Firefly first, because Serenity is a sequel to the series and there are some things in Serenity that would totally destroy Firefly for you.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Awia » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:53 am UTC

I watched Serenity first... It didn't destroy it that much.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:02 am UTC

I watched the Matrix once a long time ago. I tried rewatching it recently and got bored halfway through and stopped. I've seen Serenity four times. It has yet to become less awesome.

Besides, no power in the 'verse can stop her.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Socal Swimmer » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:40 am UTC

I voted for trinity just to annoy people :p
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby ParanoidAndroid » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:40 am UTC

Socal Swimmer wrote:I voted for trinity just to annoy people :p

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Bartimaeus » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:37 pm UTC

Very bad in fact!
Also, why is this still here?!?!

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Postby SecondTalon » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:06 pm UTC

Because NO ONE fucking bothered to report it.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby wst » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:07 pm UTC

Voted Trinity until I cba to get and watch yet another TV series. I like how she wraps everything up in a few 3 hour installments, nothing extra needed ;)
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Bartimaeus » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:59 pm UTC

TV series? Wraps everything into a few 3 hour installments? the Matrix is three films, and I meant the characters! are you sure this is the same girl?

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Mother Superior » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:46 pm UTC

River, of course. In my opinion, no other pre-action fight scene-line has been as awesome as "You take care of me, Simon... my turn." Followed by lots of juicy carnage, all from a little girl in a dress and with bare feet. Yes, River is pure awesome and hotness.

That said, however, Trinity in The Matrix was pretty kick-ass, but so was most people in that movie. This, coupled with the absolute shite-ness of the sequels in most if not all respects, including Trinity, makes her far inferior to River, who can kill you with her brain.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Clumpy » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:18 am UTC

Even without looking at the poll results, did any of us really think that ol' Trinity had a chance?

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Postby Mo0man » Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:45 pm UTC

Maybe she would have had a chance in regular fora. XKCD? Not a chance, not a chance
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby aleflamedyud » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:32 pm UTC

Clumpy wrote:Even without looking at the poll results, did any of us really think that ol' Trinity had a chance?

I hope so. I voted Trinity. She had some character other than being insane and pathetic.
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Postby darwinwins » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:39 pm UTC

motoko kusanagi from the movies, not the show.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Bartimaeus » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:32 pm UTC

I had a discussion with someone I know about who is better and I wanted to show them that River would be way better, also it just seemed like a good idea for a poll.

aleflamedyud wrote:She had some character other than being insane and pathetic.

How is River pathetic? insane yes, but pathetic?

darwinwins wrote:motoko kusanagi from the movies, not the show.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how does that relate?

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Postby Cleverdan22 » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:37 am UTC

Bartimaeus wrote:I had a discussion with someone I know about who is better and I wanted to show them that River would be way better, also it just seemed like a good idea for a poll.

aleflamedyud wrote:She had some character other than being insane and pathetic.

How is River pathetic? insane yes, but pathetic?


Seriously! You seen Serenity? At least River wasn't simply eye candy.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Bartimaeus » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:47 am UTC

Cleverdan22 wrote:Seriously! You seen Serenity? At least River wasn't simply eye candy.

you hit that right on the mark! eye candy she is, but not simply eye candy. lol

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Kazuke » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:05 am UTC

Is this really a contest?

River'd wipe the goddamn floor with Trinity's pretty PVC-clad ass.

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Pit » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:11 am UTC

Trinity died. River Tam did not.

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Besides that, Trinity needs computers, tight-fitting clothing and guns to make herself cool. River needs not.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Anasazi » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:45 am UTC

River Tam, because she's smarter, and funnier, and fights really good/ spontaneously.
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Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:22 am UTC

Pit wrote:Trinity died. River Tam did not.



Well yeah, but River Tam never had to fight Snape while he had Rosebud.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Pit » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:30 am UTC

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Pit wrote:Trinity died. River Tam did not.



Well yeah, but River Tam never had to fight Snape while he had Rosebud.


Double bad. Trinity is so blah that she's not worth watching... just getting the spoiler alert.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Bartimaeus » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:10 am UTC

Anasazi wrote:River Tam, because she's smarter, and funnier, and fights really good/ spontaneously.


Not quite spontaneous, she needs cartoony adds singing to her in Chinese, which might just be even cooler!

Sir_Elderberry wrote:Well yeah, but River Tam never had to fight Snape while he had Rosebud.


River also doesn't get killed by Snape using Rosebud. Should have put a spoiler alert shouldn't I?

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby darwinwins » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:37 am UTC

Bartimaeus wrote:I had a discussion with someone I know about who is better and I wanted to show them that River would be way better, also it just seemed like a good idea for a poll.

aleflamedyud wrote:She had some character other than being insane and pathetic.

How is River pathetic? insane yes, but pathetic?

darwinwins wrote:motoko kusanagi from the movies, not the show.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how does that relate?

are you serious? aside from how stupid the question, scenario, and pretty much everything about this thread is? why is this even in this forum? it contributes nothing to the dialogue of film or television. it's just one of those stuid "what ifs" of the 60's. what if spider-man fought superman? what if godzilla fought king kong? seriously, these questions are just irritating.

and besides, as i recall, the matrix finished. firefly was cancelled and the movie did less than mediocre business, so by default trinity wipes her ass with river tam by virtue of success. if you want to go by a different metric on who's more known, matrix again wipes her ass with river.

but i stand by my ghost in the shell heroine. kusanagi punches river out dead or breaks several of her bones and then plugs herself into a computer and erases trinity and her chapped leather ass since only one of them has a mind that's augmented by a computer. basically, trinity is like sarah conner but skynet doesn't suck at tracking down one lousy person in a fixed point in space/time.
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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby Mother Superior » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:06 am UTC

darwinwins wrote:
Bartimaeus wrote:I had a discussion with someone I know about who is better and I wanted to show them that River would be way better, also it just seemed like a good idea for a poll.

aleflamedyud wrote:She had some character other than being insane and pathetic.

How is River pathetic? insane yes, but pathetic?

darwinwins wrote:motoko kusanagi from the movies, not the show.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how does that relate?

are you serious? aside from how stupid the question, scenario, and pretty much everything about this thread is? why is this even in this forum? it contributes nothing to the dialogue of film or television. it's just one of those stuid "what ifs" of the 60's. what if spider-man fought superman? what if godzilla fought king kong? seriously, these questions are just irritating.

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Re: Who's better: River Tam(Firefly) or Trinity(Matrix)?

Postby eightysevendegrees » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:22 am UTC

darwinwins wrote:and besides, as i recall, the matrix finished. firefly was cancelled and the movie did less than mediocre business, so by default trinity wipes her ass with river tam by virtue of success. if you want to go by a different metric on who's more known, matrix again wipes her ass with river.


Firefly was cancelled and they still made a movie out of the show! The sort of thing doesn't just happen. That sort of thing needs hoards of angry fans demanding that they find out what the hell is going on inside River's head and who those Reavers were.

I can't think of any show before Firefly that got cancelled but still got a movie. That success was purely due to the outcry of the fans who wanted to know more story and more about the characters. That I think shows how awesome River was.

Whereas I didn't bother seeing the third Matrix film at the cinema because the second had been such a disappointment. And the third was still a disappointment. The first Matrix film was great, I'll grant you, but the second and third did not deserve to be a success at all. Those two films were successful based purely on the merits of the first and some exciting-looking trailers. Whereas I'd not even heard of Serenity because the marketing was so lame until my boyfriend said, "Hey, I think there's this sci-fi film out that I've heard is pretty good." It was on in a tiny two-screen cinema on the outskirts of town, not in either of the big multiplexes. It's no wonder the film's not going to be a best seller if no one knows it exists.

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Postby darwinwins » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:49 am UTC

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Bartimaeus wrote:I had a discussion with someone I know about who is better and I wanted to show them that River would be way better, also it just seemed like a good idea for a poll.

aleflamedyud wrote:She had some character other than being insane and pathetic.

How is River pathetic? insane yes, but pathetic?

darwinwins wrote:motoko kusanagi from the movies, not the show.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how does that relate?

are you serious? aside from how stupid the question, scenario, and pretty much everything about this thread is? why is this even in this forum? it contributes nothing to the dialogue of film or television. it's just one of those stuid "what ifs" of the 60's. what if spider-man fought superman? what if godzilla fought king kong? seriously, these questions are just irritating.

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