Stairgate: Universe

[thecommabandit]

I think the main reason he didn't was because he thought Rush was still with them in telford's body. As much as they've butted heads, he's still the best chance they have of knowing what the fuck is going on with the ship.

[SlyReaper]

Yes, but he could have partially vented the atmosphere so that everyone passes out but doesn't die.

[Jorpho]

Huge Stargate sg1 plot hole: In the first episode, Apophis gates in with some jaffa, the gate closes during fight, they leave with the woman. There was no way to dial out.

They actually called that one out in the commentary track of the Director's Cut.

[Sockmonkey]

Couldn't they have disconnected Rush and Telford from destiny?

[Chen]

Even if Rush was there, they showed at the start OF THAT EPISODE how there was a decent window to revive someone from the lack of air they induced in a room. You make everyone pass out, revive Rush/Telford and be done with it. Would have made boring TV though.

[mosc]

Even if Rush was there, they showed at the start OF THAT EPISODE how there was a decent window to revive someone from the lack of air they induced in a room. You make everyone pass out, revive Rush/Telford and be done with it. Would have made boring TV though.

This is an excellent point.

[Zorlin]

Don't remember where it was, but the actor who plays Scott was talking about how UTTERLY SHOCKING and UNFAIR the final scenes of the season finale were.

...What the fuck? Seriously?

[SlyReaper]

Probably filmed before he knew it would be so unpopular.

[Sockmonkey]

What are we supposed to rip on untill the new season starts? I have a lot of pent-up hostility to vent.

[SlyReaper]

V? That's still going isn't it?

[Jorpho]

Well, the new Futurama episodes are already garnering some hatred.

Or you could always just dig into the crapola from yesteryear. I hear the Logan's Run TV series is quite profoundly awful.

[mosc]

What are we supposed to rip on untill the new season starts? I have a lot of pent-up hostility to vent.

best post of this thread!

[Sockmonkey]

Thankyew thankyew, don't forget to tip your waitress.

[Jorpho]

Three days to go!

ARE YOU PSYCHED

ARE YOU SO PSYCHED

[SlyReaper]

Is there going to be another season then?

Excellent. We'll have some more episodes to vent our bile and hostility at.

[Xeio]

Is there going to be another season then?

Excellent. We'll have some more episodes to vent our bile and hostility at.

Hey, I kinda like the show, I just hate most of the characters.

[Chen]

Is there going to be another season then?

Excellent. We'll have some more episodes to vent our bile and hostility at.

Yeah with Heroes being cancelled and all I only really have SGU to complain bitterly about.

Course they showed some flashes of what looked like future episodes in the montage advertising for the premier which kinda ruined wondering who survived the end of the season.

[SlyReaper]

My guess is a few redshirts got bumped off, but all the main characters survived. Maybe one main character died, as an excuse for a mourning episode and to reinforce the whole "dark and edgy" bollocks they have going.

[Chen]

My guess is a few redshirts got bumped off, but all the main characters survived. Maybe one main character died, as an excuse for a mourning episode and to reinforce the whole "dark and edgy" bollocks they have going.

It'll feel pretty cheap if NONE of the people they put in explicit danger of death, in the end of season cliffhanger, actually die.

[ArgonV]

Well, we all know Chloe won't die for sure and Eli won't either. Well, maybe Chloe will die, but then she'll be resurrected.

[Alder]

Oo, this reminds me that I never did watch the finale of the last season...

...is it worth it, or should I save myself the pain and just read a summary somewhere?

[Jorpho]

Well, maybe Chloe will die, but then she'll be resurrected.

As the ship computer.

[Jorpho]

Hyuk. The Penny Arcade folks give a little more reason to question their editorial integrity:

Spoiler:

You never know how shit like that is going to go. How many among us have gone to see a friend at Open Mic Night, only to drink and drink until the pain was gone? It was easy enough to begin watching it, because the entire first season is available on Netflix - that's twenty episodes in all, which I absorbed in the space of a week. I was like a madman at an Indian buffet, cupping handfuls of butter chicken near if not exactly in my craw. Recall that this was without any specialist knowledge of some all encompassing Stargatey "thing." There may be some rich sideband of data that the true enthusiast may be able to glean, but if it's possible to enjoy the show more than I do at this moment I'd be incredibly surprised.

I've spent the last hour or so trying to find someplace to watch tonight's premiere online, and God knows how many rogue processes have taken root in this machine as a result of this appetite. Indeed, I searched fruitlessly for a long enough period of time that the show cropped up on Hulu in the normal course of events. If you're just getting into it now, you're lucky; you won't have to suffer through a truly brutal cliffhanger. A crisp, ripe show will simply fall into your open palm.

Ima gonna fire up Filestube now.

[ArgonV]

I honestly don't think it's that bad a show either. It keeps me entertained, that's more than most TV shows can do for me

[Xeio]

DAMNIT!

Spoiler:

NOBODY DIED* AND MORE ANGST***?!?!?!?!?! HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?

*Kiva doesn't count, though she would have been more interesting than half the people on the ship.**
**Phhht, babies... what would a baby do on this show anyway "OH SHIT! The baby is crying! Protect the babyyyyy"
***Graaaah

On the other hand, yay more terribleness?

[SlyReaper]

Spoiler:

I think the show's producers realised that working with a baby was going to be too much hassle, so they found a way to write it out of the script without being overly brutal.

Anyway, I totally called the "nobody dies" thing.

I honestly don't think it's that bad a show either. It keeps me entertained, that's more than most TV shows can do for me

Yeah same here, I think much of the ire directed at it is from people comparing it to shows like BSG and SG1. It doesn't live up to those gems, but it's entertaining enough. That won't stop me bitching about every episode though.

[ArgonV]

Spoiler:

So TJ's baby really is back on that planet?

They should keep reasonable-commander-guy and hot-redhead-scientist. They seem more reasonable and logical than half the Destiny crew

[SlyReaper]

Wild speculation:

Spoiler:

My guess is some crisis will come up which requires the Earthlings to request the Luscian's help, and this will earn their release from the brig. Eventually they'll be accepted as members of the crew. Then either some of the redshirt military folk or some of the civilians will get all upset about it and do something stupid.

So predictable that I'd be calling it even if I hadn't read too much TVTropes.

[ArgonV]

Spoiler:

Or maybe the Lucians drain so much resources (food, water, etc) that they need to earn their keep? Use them as expendable scouts or whatever

Ooh, maybe Eli can date the redhead!

[Yubtzock]

Wild speculation:

Spoiler:

My guess is some crisis will come up which requires the Earthlings to request the Luscian's help, and this will earn their release from the brig. Eventually they'll be accepted as members of the crew. Then either some of the redshirt military folk or some of the civilians will get all upset about it and do something stupid.

So predictable that I'd be calling it even if I hadn't read too much TVTropes.

That's true, but since inevitable now, let's just see how they are going to resolve that.

More speculation:

Spoiler:

Why do I have the feeling that super fast healing of Chloe's leg is a Chekhov's gun... and why am I almost sure she is not going to tell Young or even Rush about it? No, she IS going to speak with Rush about it, at I think I know why - alien abduction.
If not they just retconned her wound from the previous episode.

In general:
I've finished SG-1 SG-A and movies this summer (started half a year ago or so) and with fresh comparison I can say - They made the same thing with BSG's Caprica - Dramatising (already well DRAMAtic show) made it slow and uninteresting for the audience. Same here - LOST with Battlestaresque drama and characters that for some strange reason don't even try to play in the same team if they don't have to (except maybe for Eli) - it could have been good, but for some strange reason it does not work. Writers?

[Jorpho]

Speaking of which, what the heck happened to the SG-A movie? Is it scuttled entirely?

[pseudoidiot]

More speculation:

Spoiler:

Why do I have the feeling that super fast healing of Chloe's leg is a Chekhov's gun... and why am I almost sure she is not going to tell Young or even Rush about it? No, she IS going to speak with Rush about it, at I think I know why - alien abduction.
If not they just retconned her wound from the previous episode.

I'm pretty sure I saw something in a preview where

Spoiler:

Chloe says something along the lines of "my leg is changing" and then it showed what appeared to be some sort of metal patch on her leg. Granted, the way previews are edited sometimes you can never be too sure about how the different pieces they throw in fit together, but it seems fairly clear they're going to come back to that.

[Sockmonkey]

Wild speculation:

Spoiler:

My guess is some crisis will come up which requires the Earthlings to request the Luscian's help, and this will earn their release from the brig. Eventually they'll be accepted as members of the crew. Then either some of the redshirt military folk or some of the civilians will get all upset about it and do something stupid.

So predictable that I'd be calling it even if I hadn't read too much TVTropes.

Spoiler:

That was half the plot of the first season of Voyager.
Anyhow, what the hell did the Luscians think they were gonna DO with the ship if they got it? Did they expect to find some power source in the new galaxy that would allow them to dial back to ours or was it a suicide mission to just get the info the ship has?

[Jorpho]

Spoiler:

That was half the plot of the first season of Voyager.

Spoiler:

And of course they badly recycled it in the third season of Enterprise, with the military types joining the crew.

Spoiler:

Anyhow, what the hell did the Luscians think they were gonna DO with the ship if they got it? Did they expect to find some power source in the new galaxy that would allow them to dial back to ours or was it a suicide mission to just get the info the ship has?

Spoiler:

If they actually leave that unresolved for the rest of the season, it will be a true sign of the brazen cluelessness of the writers. I don't think they're quite that stupid.

[Sockmonkey]

Spoiler:

That was half the plot of the first season of Voyager.

Spoiler:

And of course they badly recycled it in the third season of Enterprise, with the military types joining the crew.

Spoiler:

Anyhow, what the hell did the Luscians think they were gonna DO with the ship if they got it? Did they expect to find some power source in the new galaxy that would allow them to dial back to ours or was it a suicide mission to just get the info the ship has?

Spoiler:

If they actually leave that unresolved for the rest of the season, it will be a true sign of the brazen cluelessness of the writers. I don't think they're quite that stupid.

Spoiler:

It was a bit different on Enterprise since the military never actually wanted to kill them.
Yes, you do think the writers are that dumb and so do I. Because so far they have been.
I'm not nearly as happy about the damn baby dying as I should be since instead of having a nice sensible miscarriage they spirited it away in a manner that just screams of foreshadowing it's return. The spiritual BS was just barely tolerable in the first two series and has no place in what's supposed to be the grittier version of the SG universe

[Jorpho]

Spoiler:

Speaking of which, wouldn't someone notice if the fetus disappeared entirely rather than simply dying?

[SlyReaper]

Spoiler:

Hence the whole "your friends will see things differently" thing.

[Xeio]

Spoiler:

The spiritual BS was just barely tolerable in the first two series and has no place in what's supposed to be the grittier version of the SG universe

Was there any in the first two? Unless you're counting the goa'uld parading around as gods or something? It's not like they extended the series past 8 seasons and added a ridiculous enemy who used devout followers to spread their faith. Though they did make an awesome 200th episode, I can forgive them skipping the 175th and on though for that.

I mean, the whole ascended beings thing was kinda an ass-pull (oh, and they only have power in our galaxy, of course... but don't use it, that would be totally not cool, man)

[Princess Marzipan]

They should keep reasonable-commander-guy and hot-redhead-scientist.

I LOVE hot-redhead-scientist.

[Jorpho]

They should keep reasonable-commander-guy and hot-redhead-scientist.

I LOVE hot-redhead-scientist.

If she has no sexytimes by the end of the season, I'm not sure if I will have more respect for the writers or less.