Stairgate: Universe

[Sockmonkey]

Probably more since you really can't respect them less...
Apparently I have a lot of latent hostility because I'm not normally such a snarky little bitch and I'm enjoying ripping into this show way too much.

[Chen]

Finally got around to watching the premier. I'll spoiler my thoughts here but whats the general policy on that in this thread? I tend to get confused on the TV forum.

Spoiler:

I really REALLY hop Tj is just crazy and that whole "the baby is on the planet thing" is just in her head. Of course seeing that nebula at the end probably means its not. The fact that no major character died annoys me a bit. Feels like a real cop-out. Chloe suddenly healing seemed very well timed as well. I do like the reasonable commander guy from the Lucians. And red headed scientist woman is pretty hot. I really do hope they just leave them all on the next habitable planet though which is the reasonable thing to do. They won't and it'll be like voyager all over again, but I can hope right?

Lou Diamond Philips character also seems far more reasonable now ever since the brainwashing wore off. I gotta wonder why you'd brainwash someone to be on your side AND to be a jackass but whatever. I did like the scenes where he was talking to the crazy Lucian commander and was like "No really, Rush is a coward he won't sacrifice himself, he will just kill everyone else on the ship".

[gmalivuk]

I'll spoiler my thoughts here but whats the general policy on that in this thread? I tend to get confused on the TV forum.

The official rule is to spoiler anything that might be a spoiler when the thread itself isn't marked as such. This thread doesn't say anything like "contains spoilers" in the subject line, you should use tags if you talk about something that might spoil the episode for people who haven't seen it. (By which I mean, spoil it more than the writers have already...)

[Yubtzock]

Why oh why did they change Rush into Gaius Baltar even more... Even the hallucinations of his 'beloved'... Nooo.

Spoiler:

War with Lucian Alliance back on Earth? Hell, show me that instead of this crapboat full of self oriented dummies.

One more thing: Rush not telling anyone about the access to the bridge is one of the most obvious and stupid things I could think of. Why do I even wonder why the writers decided that he should keep it secret. More importantly - After all the times he did this sort of thing someone should have already predicted he would try to hide it once he'll find out.

What I liked about old SG: Teamwork. After some time I think they are the RIGHT people in the right place. They only need to work together to make this show more enjoyable and their situation more adventurous and less tragic.

[ArgonV]

Spoiler:

Poor Riley. From punching bag to mauve shirt.

Well, at least it was a Chloe-less episode.

...Which only means one of the next episodes will be about her.

And they kept hot-redhead-scientist!

[ArgonV]

Oh, and on second thought

Spoiler:

I think it was good of them to show the military personnel crying about Riley. I dunno why, but it worked for me. Usually, the military in these kind of shows are people who shrug of all emotion.
I just don't get why Eli wasn't crying, even though he lost his best friend. Unless we just weren't shown that scene

[SlyReaper]

I know I know, another post comprised entirely of a spoiler. Sorry.

Spoiler:

Riley was always a redshirt, he just happened to be a named redshirt. When was he ever Eli's best friend? I must have missed that bit.

As for the Rush <-> Baltar thing, there seems to be an important difference between the two characters. Sure, they're both floppy-haired boffins with dubious morals. But Rush appears to be motivated by an earnest belief in Young's incompetence (an assessment I find it hard to disagree with), whereas Baltar was only ever motivated by cowardice. In other words, Rush has the stones that Baltar lacked. It's not the same character.

[ArgonV]

Spoiler:

Well, they were spending a lot of time together, right? Figuring out the kinos and such? I also seem to remember a scene where they used to kinos to spy on lieutenant funbags James

[Princess Marzipan]

Spoiler:

*RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE*

[ArgonV]

Honestly: Good episode

Spoiler:

Telford will be back, right? I mean, we didn't actually see him die

[SlyReaper]

Spoiler:

Well the seed ship is stuffed full of stargates. It wouldn't be beyond the wit of some of the smarter folk to think "golly gosh, we could mount a rescue mission next time we drop out of FTL". Either that or Telford could manage to get away from the aliens and go fire up a stargate.

[Eternal Density]

I'm quite enjoying this season of SGU so far.

Spoiler:

And I was so tempted to put that in spoiler tags.

[Sockmonkey]

Spoiler:

Yay for the lieutenant with the rack. She makes it all worthwhile.
Anyhoo, it is nice to see CGI used to make aliens who actually look like aliens and not humans with funny heads. The lil' buggers are actually kinda cute. Sadly though, such CGI creatures generally get limited screen time because of the difficulty of making them. (This is why Farscape kicked so much ass by using puppets instead) When you think about it, the writers basically had no choice but to make em' really "alien" since the franchise had already done the "humans on every world due to colonization" bit before and knew it wouldn't fly with a galaxy humans had never been to.

[SlyReaper]

Spoiler:

I wonder if the aliens are related to the ancients in any way?

[Sockmonkey]

Spoiler:

I kind of wondered that myself. Like if some of them went the gene-mod way of the asguard before they all learned how to ascend.

[Jorpho]

Spoiler:

It seems readily clear to me that they are supposed to be related to the Asgard in some manner.

I reckon Telford gets chummy with them.

[ArgonV]

Decent enough episode

So where are the haters at?

[SlyReaper]

Well the writers seemed to have upped their game a bit since last season, so there hasn't been as much to rant about. Even Chloe seems to be getting an interesting story which may well end up making her badass. At least, badass enough to do high level maths on Rush's wall of crazy. (although I do have a rant about that. What she wrote there was a simple sin function with what looked like an r double prime in front. Are we really expected to believe that would not have occurred to resident genius Rush, especially when he immediately recognised it as correct?)

[mosc]

Math in movies: Writing extremely simple things on a board = genius. And any other math person can look at it in 2 seconds and realize how awesome it is.

[Sockmonkey]

Spoiler:

I reckon Telford gets chummy with them.

Spoiler:

Yep, he just makes friends wherever he goes doesn't he?

Maybe the writers think that anyone with any knowledge of science and math wouldn't watch the show if you paid them.

[phlip]

Maths in movies proves P != NP... it's very hard to solve, but trivial to verify.

[Jorpho]

Oh dear. Now they're brazenly ripping off SG-1 episodes. Season 6 was only seven years ago; the statute of limitations has not passed.

We'll see if they can at least refrain from making people become invisible for one reason or another.

[SlyReaper]

Boring episode was boring.

[phlip]

Oh dear. Now they're brazenly ripping off SG-1 episodes. Season 6 was only seven years ago; the statute of limitations has not passed.

Spoiler:

Hey, at least in Changeling something plot-related happened in the fever dream... in this episode, it was just a whole pile of pointlessness. If the fever dreams were actually relevant in any way, and had Daniel Jackson in them, then maybe it would have been slightly less pointless.

[Yubtzock]

Oh dear. Now they're brazenly ripping off SG-1 episodes. Season 6 was only seven years ago; the statute of limitations has not passed.

Waitwaitwait, I interpret it as paying a homage to the form of SG-1. I mean they are leaning toward the formula of "an adventure/story of the week" and yeah, it's a bit crappy, but at least it's better than no plot progression at all AND drama taken entirely out of LOST.

Also:
- we have 2 fast regenerating ppl on board and one of them is a soldier (yay, I foresee a shoot-out in some future episode! There was no alien (not counting Lucians and alien animals) shot yet).
- Why is no one checking up on Rush whether or not is he fast regenerating too? He has been on the alien ship longer then Chloe... (and I know she has symptoms, but Rush is also A. interested in the destiny and B. disappearing sometimes on his own, so it would be harder to tell, but hey, it's a good reason to have someone go everywhere with him )

[ArgonV]

Spoiler:

Do we know Scott is fast-regenerating? I haven't seen any proof of that yet. His bloodwork was normal, right?

Also, Eli + Hot Redhead Scientist, yay!

[SlyReaper]

Spoiler:

Also, Eli + Hot Redhead Scientist, yay!

Don't worry, he'll find some way to balls it up.

[Yubtzock]

Spoiler:

Do we know Scott is fast-regenerating? I haven't seen any proof of that yet. His bloodwork was normal, right?

Also, Eli + Hot Redhead Scientist, yay!

Spoiler:

He had a transfusion and I assumed that he is going to have the same ability as Chloe

Each time Destiny does something incredibly complicated or special I'm more convinced there is an AI on board (or an Ascended).

also from last episode (thats what I thought initially):

[traveltheory]

AI was never really something that the ancients were shown to have any interest in.The one time they tried they apparently made replicators and that ended poorly. An ascended watching over the ship would make alot of sense. Either out of nostalgia or a desire to see more stargates seeded.I doubt they would go in that direction though they are trying distance themselves from SG-1 and Atlantis.

I can barely keep interest in the show. I am more interested in the ship iteself they anyone on it, save maybe young.

[ArgonV]

Spoiler:

Maybe there were some Ancients aboard that ascended? I mean the Milky Way/Pegasus Ancients were different from the Ori Ancients. Or maybe it's just a Oma/Merlin/Morgan who wants to help them? Maybe those are Rush' dead wife and the dead scientist?

Rush was talking about Destiny's true purpose. I thought it was dropping Stargates everywhere

Oh, and I thought Greer was pretty awesome as a match maker (and overall friend)

[traveltheory]

Yeah Greer was great in that episode and it was nice to see he developed some respect for Eli.

I don't know if they can really avoid an encounter with the ancients on the show but I think its something they are gonna hold off as long as possible. The plot is really bland right now. Oh no aliens, Oh no ship is broken, Oh no rush is evil, Oh no Chloe is a monster. Even the characters and ship politics are watered down versions of BSG.

Id like them to find a purpose or goal to strive for at some point that would make the show worth watching. That was the shame with SG-1 though, they really couldnt get the magic back after anubis was defeated.

[Alder]

I am more interested in the ship iteself they anyone on it

This is where I was at the end of season 1. I've yet to even start watching season 2, I'm not sure if I can be bothered yet...

[SlyReaper]

The first few episodes of season 2 were actually reasonably watchable. But the latest couple of of episodes have been boring, and with no plot progression to speak of.

[Chen]

Spoiler:

Did they explain how the ship's simulation was actually affecting Young? Maybe I missed it but they seemed to just gloss over it. I did enjoy seeing destiny explode a few times (reminded me of the TNG episode with the time loop and the Enterprise continuing to explode)

[pseudoidiot]

Spoiler:

Did they explain how the ship's simulation was actually affecting Young? Maybe I missed it but they seemed to just gloss over it. I did enjoy seeing destiny explode a few times (reminded me of the TNG episode with the time loop and the Enterprise continuing to explode)

Yeah...

Spoiler:

Their reasoning went something like: since brain waves are essentially electrical impulses, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine Destiny being able to manipulate said impulses and basically impart dreams onto Young.

[SlyReaper]

And my reasoning is: BRAINWAVES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.

[mosc]

They have fucking stones that switch their consciousness across the god damn galaxy and you're bitching about a computer simulation hooking up LOCALLY to your brain? Really?

[SlyReaper]

Ah, true.

[ArgonV]

Spoiler:

New friends... yay...

Greer is still awesome, Rush' secret is out now, presumably they've got a mission and why is that Lucian alliance guy walking around unsupervised?

[Toeofdoom]

Spoiler:

New friends... yay...

Greer is still awesome, Rush' secret is out now, presumably they've got a mission and why is that Lucian alliance guy walking around unsupervised?

(regarding season 2 episode 7)

Spoiler:

The last one is what struck me the most... suddenly at the end of the episode...

Based on the hilarious "everyone's about to die" cliffhanger followed by "it turns out everyone is fine!" I'd say no-one's actually likely to die here.