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American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

Postby Dhes » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:40 pm UTC

Just saw the first episode.
As far as I can see it’s about dead babies, people in gimp suits and old half blind/young hot French maids (yes that’s one and the same person).

So I really don’t know what to think of it yet.
I’m sure it’s going to be about a house that wants to kill people, what the hell is you problem house.

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Re: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

Postby broken_escalator » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:39 pm UTC

I stopped watching at the scene where he masturbated at the window and then cried. I don't mind nudity but at that point I completely lost interest.

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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:38 am UTC

It's really hard to judge a show by its pilot episode, but if the rest of the show is as fucked up as the pilot, I say, "Bring it on!". With so many twists, turns, what-the-fucks, and holy-shits, this could make for one hell of a TV show that's chock-full-o' mindfuckery.

I will have to say I think I've got something pegged, just from the first episode:

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Of all the characters, only the family that's presently living in the house is still alive. The psycho teen is the psycho killer (Qu'est-ce que c'est) that once lived in the house, now a ghost; the old-young maid (appears young to the husband; old to the wife and daughter), the nosy neighbor and her Downs Syndrome daughter are all the ghosts of the psycho teen's victims. The half-burned man is also a ghost, probably trying to warn the husband of what may happen. I think the girl with DS was the psycho's daughter and her mother may have been the psycho's wife. The maid was their maid, saw what happened, and threatened to go to the police. She was killed, of course, then the wife was killed, and the psycho killed himself.
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Re: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

Postby Lucrece » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:44 am UTC

broken_escalator wrote:I stopped watching at the scene where he masturbated at the window and then cried. I don't mind nudity but at that point I completely lost interest.


Funny, that's where interest picked up. I always imagined him quite mundane, and to find the contrary was a pleasant surprise.

And the show murders obnoxious gingers with deplorable bowl cuts, so that's a plus.
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Postby cephalopod9 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:16 am UTC

I'm not sure I'm going to be seeing more of this series.
They did a pretty good job
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building atmosphere, and tension throughout quite a bit of the show, and then they kept throwing it out for "ragh! monster!! ragh!!!"
Which is exactly what I expect from an American thriller.

I was kind of hoping it'd be a series of stories, not the jumble of overlapping threads it's been so far.
There's too much going in different directions, and they don't put in the effort to get the audience invested in anything in particular.
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Re: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

Postby Dhes » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:03 pm UTC

I just watched the second episode, there was a bit more of a story development, but not a lot.
I did learn that if you have psychotic freaky neighbors, don’t let them into your house, or ever talk to them.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:37 am UTC

Dhes wrote:I just watched the second episode, there was a bit more of a story development, but not a lot.
I did learn that if you have psychotic freaky neighbors, don’t let them into your house, or ever talk to them.


Yep. Also, never trust baked goods offered by said freaky neighbors. The second the psycho neighbor mother said "Hand me the ipecac", I knew she meant trouble. At least none of the family ate the cupcakes; only one of the bad guys did.

My mom and I had come to a common consensus: The house is evil. A whole lot of shit went on in that house. Nothing a lot of gasoline, a propane leak, a match, and salt on the ground afterwards couldn't cure.
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Postby Scallel » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:41 am UTC

A few theories me and a friend came up with
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Our current running theory is that the creepy mom next door who originally built the house and that the maid is the original maid. We also thought that perhaps the teen psychotic, who's character I find myself liking far too much, was her other child. We also think that the good looking man in Her bedroom in episode two is her son. Oh and that the malformed evilific thing in the basemt is hers also.We came to that by her stating how her first child was a vision of pure beauty, perfect in everyday, and how she should have stopped after the first one. We thought this made sense because her other three children were a psychotic, a girl with down syndrome( the only one we think is not trying to be evil, albeit creepy), and evilific demon thingy. Oh and the reason I thought that the house was hers was due to In the first episode where she's tLking about her doggy daycare thing and says,"Theres always room for mongrels in my home." This is just my personal hope, but I feel like the mom, maid, and psycho are all protectors of the house and everyone in it, who try to protect them both from the ghosts still angry within and the living on the outside. We also matched each "Guardian" to a character, due to the fact that they will strengthen and improve that character. The maid to the dad, the psycho to the daughter, and the mom to the, well, mom.
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Postby cephalopod9 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:45 am UTC

I thought her story was that
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her potential acting career was ruined by the birth of her daughter, the one we see. Unless you're thinking the daughter is a second child, her first being had when she was 15, it doesn't fit with her story
presuming she's been at all honest.
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Postby Lucrece » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:26 pm UTC

Well, she's a Southern belle, and it's an established theme by now that these types of characters are often self-deluded.
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Postby animeHrmIne » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:16 pm UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:Yep. Also, never trust baked goods offered by said freaky neighbors. The second the psycho neighbor mother said "Hand me the ipecac", I knew she meant trouble. At least none of the family ate the cupcakes; only one of the bad guys did.

I have to admit, I assumed that the dog would eat the cupcake off of the floor after Violet put it there, and then die a horrifying death.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:23 pm UTC

animeHrmIne wrote:
PatrickRsGhost wrote:Yep. Also, never trust baked goods offered by said freaky neighbors. The second the psycho neighbor mother said "Hand me the ipecac", I knew she meant trouble. At least none of the family ate the cupcakes; only one of the bad guys did.

I have to admit, I assumed that the dog would eat the cupcake off of the floor after Violet put it there, and then die a horrifying death.


You hate little rat dogs or mophead dogs, too, huh? Why is it that most families or people in TV shows have those little ratty or mophead dogs? Why can't they get a more decent dog, like a German Shepherd, or a Lab? Or at least a cat?

Funnily enough, we didn't see the little dog anymore after the pilot.

This past episode was also awesome.

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We learned the first death that occurred in the house, how the owner was a surgeon who performed plastic surgery out of his basement. Also, the body count is now up to 4 for the current owners, the first three being those kids that tried to recreate the Ted Bundy-like murder, and now the husband's mistress. Five, counting her (the mistress) unborn baby. I've got a strong feeling the neighbor's going to get her comeuppance very soon. Perhaps next week or the week after she will. She seems to have a lot of control over the other spirits in the house; the maid was upset the mistress was killed, as she was her ticket out of the house.


I have already decided if this series is cancelled, I am going to raise all sorts of holy hell, and I will buy the DVDs when (and if) they come out.
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Re: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

Postby cephalopod9 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:59 am UTC

I really do not care for mysteriousness for the sake of mysteriousness. Communicating badly is not wit.
And, if there is format a horror series should avoid, it is that of Glee.

But, I like Zachary Quinto.

I would really like to trade the husband and his boring problems for more Zachary Quinto.

It's not that I dislike Glee (although I have been pissed at them since they wasted Rolling in the Deep on Rachel), but a comedy, and even a drama can get away with dropping threads and picking them up later without much organization, but horror really needs to stay with a point of view to have any impact.
If you don't see enough of a character to sympathize with them or find them interesting, then it's just Bad Things Happening to People, and not scary.

What happened to the paintings?
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Are we really going to leave it at "I covered them back up" without getting a real look at them? If so, what was the point of uncovering them in the first place?

Is highschool just great now that Violet traumatized her rival?

Is Vivien supposed to be the protagonist? Why do we know less about her than the evil neighbor? I can't even remember if she has a job.
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Postby Lucrece » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:02 pm UTC

She doesn't have a job. She mentioned getting a job when she wanted to sell the house. Either way, good luck with finding a new job while pregnant.
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Postby cephalopod9 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:42 am UTC

So here's a fun surprise: Cool Website

It's not very big, and... I don't think any of it actually connects back to the show, but it's an interesting and competent take on the 'virtual tour' genre.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:55 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:I thought her story was that
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her potential acting career was ruined by the birth of her daughter, the one we see. Unless you're thinking the daughter is a second child, her first being had when she was 15, it doesn't fit with her story
presuming she's been at all honest.


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We learn that Addie is really her second child; Tate (the psychotic boyfriend) is her first. He really cared for his sister, really loved her. It was good to see a softer side of the neighbor, and the psycho boyfriend.

Also with Tate, he confronted his own past, when the kids he shot and killed came up on him. I'm thinking either he just went nuts one day, or else as an act of revenge, since some of them were probably picking on Addie.

In the pre-Halloween episode, Addie is killed by a hit-and-run driver, when she tries to join a group of girls to go trick-or-treating, because she was dressed as a "pretty girl", like them. I hope she returns as a ghost, and maybe protects the family from some of the other entities they may face in the future.


I was kind of shocked when

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Hayden supposedly came back from the dead, and nuked the dog. She and Vivien forced Ben to reveal what happened in Boston.
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Re: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

Postby cephalopod9 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:06 am UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:
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We learn that Addie is really her second child; Tate (the psychotic boyfriend) is her first. He really cared for his sister, really loved her. It was good to see a softer side of the neighbor, and the psycho boyfriend.
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Did they say that Addie was younger than Tate? (I was playing Terraria at the time)
Addie was a child in the 1978 flash back, Tate's victim says she would be 34 at present, so her birth year would be 1977, Tate has to be within 4 years of her age to have been in highschool at the same time... if Tate was born in '73 he'd have been 5 at the time of the flash back, Was Addie meant to be a 4 year old? It's not very clear. The impression I got was that he would have been an underclassman at the time that girl was a high-school senior, making him several years younger than Addie
Presuming the producers of the show bothered to do the math, and, y'know cared about the results.
It's also confusing that the picture Violet sees has Tate looking as he does now, and Addie clearly young enough to be shorter, with no real indication of the ages they are supposed to be. It's not implausible that he's meant to be 12 or 13, and Addie in her late teens
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:40 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:
PatrickRsGhost wrote:
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We learn that Addie is really her second child; Tate (the psychotic boyfriend) is her first. He really cared for his sister, really loved her. It was good to see a softer side of the neighbor, and the psycho boyfriend.
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Did they say that Addie was younger than Tate? (I was playing Terraria at the time)
Addie was a child in the 1978 flash back, Tate's victim says she would be 34 at present, so her birth year would be 1977, Tate has to be within 4 years of her age to have been in highschool at the same time... if Tate was born in '73 he'd have been 5 at the time of the flash back, Was Addie meant to be a 4 year old? It's not very clear. The impression I got was that he would have been an underclassman at the time that girl was a high-school senior, making him several years younger than Addie
Presuming the producers of the show bothered to do the math, and, y'know cared about the results.
It's also confusing that the picture Violet sees has Tate looking as he does now, and Addie clearly young enough to be shorter, with no real indication of the ages they are supposed to be. It's not implausible that he's meant to be 12 or 13, and Addie in her late teens


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True. I think Tate was the second child; Addie was the first. We see the flashback to 1993, when Tate shot up the school. The victims that confronted him were all in the library for study hall at the time. I had a feeling he was a ghost from the beginning; this episode confirmed it. It was kind of sad to learn that, but I suspected he was one from the beginning. I think Tate was sent by the other spirits to Violet, because they know she can help them. They also know she's at that age where she wouldn't believe it, and is usually emotionally unstable. They all figured once Tate warms up to her, and she him, he can tell her the truth, and ask for her help. This past episode unfortunately did it at an alarming speed, all thanks to Constance and her medium friend.

I hope Addie reappears at some point.

Is it me or does anyone else suspect the security guard is a ghost, and is trying to entice Vivien so that they can get to her for the baby?
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:19 am UTC

I have to say this latest episode...just damn. Everybody's fucked up, aren't they?

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Half-Burned Man didn't kill his family and try to burn the house down; he told his wife he was leaving her for Constance (the neighbor) and so she (the wife) got the "If you can't have me, nobody can have me" attitude by setting herself (and the kids?) on fire.

Ben knows Tate loves Violet, and vice versa, so he gets Tate to try to talk to her, since she's been very moody lately; very distant. Ben believes these are signs of depression. Not to mention the little girl's been cutting herself!

Vivien's still worried about her baby. Check that: babies. Plural.

The doctor and his wife's child was kidnapped, and she became OCD by cleaning the silver. When the baby's found mutilated, the doctor tries to revive him by reconstructing him, but ends up creating a monster.

Tate show Violet a box hidden in the attic, containing pictures of the house when it was first built, of the first owners, and Vivien recognizes the woman as the one that visited when they first moved into the house.


I'll reiterate: It's getting better and better.
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Postby cephalopod9 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:58 pm UTC

There's a new series/season out now: American Horror Story: Asylum.

It wants sooooo bad to be a good show.
I'm remembering why I though "From the Makers of Glee" could be watchable horror tv. Reading this thread I'm also remembering how much I do not care what happened to any of those characters. (I think I fully threw in the towel at "He called me a pig". Too much stupid. Too incoherent, and the least interesting people are getting the most screen time).

There's a pretty great premise here. Social deviants terrorized on both sides by religion and science as they sadistically try to "cure" them. So much Potential.

But they're already falling down on characterization. Like the lesbian school teacher
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Has a lot of really good, very valid reasons to be afraid about people finding out she's a lesbian in 1960's America, but it doesn't read like that at all. It reads like "oh well, I know you're asking me to sign over permission to torture my life partner for an indefinite period of time, but not doing it sure would be inconvenient to my career"


It's getting my hopes up because the characters are more in the same place, and they're killing off the boring present day characters and focusing on the interesting former occupants, instead of focusing on the boring present home owners and killing off or dismissing all the interesting characters around them.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:41 am UTC

I've got a feeling that unlike the previous season, which bounced back and forth between the house's history and the present, with the present being more predominant, we're seeing the asylum in its past, when it was still running, with quick glimpses into present day. I have a feeling that there will be at least three or four more episodes concerning the asylum's past, then the rest of the season will focus on its present-day status. Or, maybe, the state government will decide to reopen the asylum, and while cleaning it up, or after they have it up and running, the ghosts of the past will come back in full force.

The one thing I can't get over: James Cromwell playing an evil doctor. I still see him as Mr. Hoggett or Zefram Cochran. Also, Jessica Lange does "very strict nun with a dark past" very well. I have a feeling her character's going to soften up towards the end, which will be sad. Looks like the younger nun's starting to go insane. Of course, she has been possessed by some evil entity.
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Postby cephalopod9 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:19 am UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:The one thing I can't get over: James Cromwell playing an evil doctor. I still see him as Mr. Hoggett or Zefram Cochran.
Dang, but they could have made that work. Especially with
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possibly Anne Frank
's story about him seeming kind and benevolent, but then doing horrible things. If they weren't in such a rush to get to the "ragh! torture porn!" they could have played up his type-cast as a nice old man, who's totally against that mean scary nun. And it would have been way more unsettling.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:07 am UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:
PatrickRsGhost wrote:The one thing I can't get over: James Cromwell playing an evil doctor. I still see him as Mr. Hoggett or Zefram Cochran.
Dang, but they could have made that work. Especially with
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possibly Anne Frank
's story about him seeming kind and benevolent, but then doing horrible things. If they weren't in such a rush to get to the "ragh! torture porn!" they could have played up his type-cast as a nice old man, who's totally against that mean scary nun. And it would have been way more unsettling.


I think that's the role of the government employee that's been brought in about two or three episodes ago. I'm thinking he's going to be popping in the next few episodes, then when he goes home, report his findings back to the Health Dept., who will order the place shut down. He's the one that seems to be more compassionate about the patients than any of the staff.
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Postby hawkinsssable » Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:03 pm UTC

I think that's the role of the government employee that's been brought in about two or three episodes ago. I'm thinking he's going to be popping in the next few episodes, then when he goes home, report his findings back to the Health Dept., who will order the place shut down. He's the one that seems to be more compassionate about the patients than any of the staff.


Well, that played out... differently.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:08 am UTC

hawkinsssable wrote:
I think that's the role of the government employee that's been brought in about two or three episodes ago. I'm thinking he's going to be popping in the next few episodes, then when he goes home, report his findings back to the Health Dept., who will order the place shut down. He's the one that seems to be more compassionate about the patients than any of the staff.


Well, that played out... differently.


Yep, it sure did. Totally not what I was expecting.

I do hope Sister Jude returns to Briarcliff. I have a feeling she will, but as a patient, and perhaps Dr. Arden will exact his revenge on her, or some of the patients will. Some of the other nuns seemed more compassionate about the patients.

And Sister Mary? Boy, she's a piece of work, isn't she?
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Postby Izawwlgood » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:13 am UTC

I give this show a lot of credit actually. It's using a lot of well used tropes, but I'm enjoying the bejeezus out of it.

And sufficiently creeped out.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:09 am UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:I do hope Sister Jude returns to Briarcliff. I have a feeling she will, but as a patient, and perhaps Dr. Arden will exact his revenge on her, or some of the patients will. Some of the other nuns seemed more compassionate about the patients.


Well, it seems like I nailed it nearly perfectly. Sister Jude has returned, but now she's just "Judy", and had been committed/admitted.

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The only thing I can't understand: Aliens? Seriously? I understand that the mentally insane were experimented on back then, as far back as asylums were first built, but having an asylum become a hotbed for alien activity? I think they're trying way too hard. Present-day abandoned Briarcliff seems to focus more on someone being a copycat Bloodyface, or else the original Bloodyface having returned (not possible, he'd be too old, so it's a copycat), and whatever abominations live in the woods behind the asylum that Dr. Arden and Sister Mary are seen feeding, but nothing (so far) about aliens.
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Postby Jave D » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:14 pm UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:
hawkinsssable wrote:
I think that's the role of the government employee that's been brought in about two or three episodes ago. I'm thinking he's going to be popping in the next few episodes, then when he goes home, report his findings back to the Health Dept., who will order the place shut down. He's the one that seems to be more compassionate about the patients than any of the staff.


Well, that played out... differently.


Yep, it sure did. Totally not what I was expecting.


I started to expect it after they got past the guard and into the car. It was way too easy, that. Also, the character seemed far too compassionate. No one's that nice in this bloody show.

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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:17 pm UTC

Just finished season 1;
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I like the idea of the House accumulating spirits that are in their own personal hell by being trapped there, but the ending felt lazy, if a little hopeful (We're all a family!). There a couple lose ends in terms of reasonable issues in the House that should have led to an investigation, but, meh.

Ultimately, it seems like repeatedly driving away families would only screw the House denizens over more. They need someone stable. So sure, it was nice seeing them protecting someone, but kind of pointless.

And you know, Ben and family aren't exactly in a good place, given that Hayden is also locked in the house. Ultimately, the House is very crowded, and everyone is hell to everyone else (writers obviously loved No Exit). Also, why did the ghosts of Tates victims appear; they weren't killed in the House. And he killed 15 people; why did only ~6 appear?

But I dunno, I guess the idea is you're trapped how you want to be, and the family have chosen to be trapped together, with Tate and Hayden exiles.

And, you know, Constance magically showing up with a baby boy given that one is missing... But, sure, feh. Man, she cra-zy. Nothin' like the anti-Christ being mothered by narcissism.

OH! And the Kill Bill whistle; sure, again, why not?
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Postby Jave D » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:16 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Just finished season 1;
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Also, why did the ghosts of Tates victims appear; they weren't killed in the House. And he killed 15 people; why did only ~6 appear?


I think that was because
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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:30 pm UTC

Ah, good point.

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Some other plot holes include the exterminator that went missing when at the House, and the fact that Constance is under investigation for murders, and magically shows up with a baby after the baby (and Violet) go missing. Also, since Violet is still in the floorboards, presumably the House still has a fly problem, or at least, smelled pretty bad for a while?
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:05 am UTC

I need to rewatch Season 1 to see if I can pick up on something, but I think I have a theory as to why things happened the way they did:

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The House wanted Constance to return to it, to become its rightful owner. It seemed like she was the only occupant that didn't have anything bad happen directly to her; the only thing that happened was her son being gunned down after shooting up the school, and of course her husband having been caught cheating with the housemaid. Had that not happened, even with the husband cheating on her, and if he had made it out alive, she would have lived happily in the house. Many people don't believe it, but inanimate objects, when "fawned over" or "doted over" like the House was, by its original owners, can sometimes take on a personality of its own, and it, too, can have "feelings" or "emotions", and "choose" who it wants to be its owner(s).

Think about it: When the doctor and his wife lived in it, their baby died, then they died. When the two college girls lived there, they died. When the gay couple moved in, they were killed. When the Burned Man's family lived there, the wife and kids died, but he suffered severe burns. When Constance lived there, her husband and maid died by her hand, and Tate died from Suicide by Cop (he pulled out a gun, prepared to shoot at them, but instead pointed it at himself, and they shot him). The only other survivor of Constance's family was her daughter. When the Harmons moved in, everyone died, even the dog.

If anything, I think Season 1 was like a twisted adaptation of "The Haunting of Hill House", where the descendant of the original owner, as well as others, believed the house to be "alive".
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Postby Izawwlgood » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:40 am UTC

The dog decidedly did not die; the housing agent is shown at the end of the season having adopted it.

But;
[url]I agree otherwise; Constance understands the House, which is why she is 'chosen' at the end to care for the child born by the Houses manipulations. That said, I think saying 'nothing happened to her' is a bit course. She most certainly suffered at the hands of the House, fucked up as though she may be.[/url]
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:20 am UTC

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I could have sworn the dog died, by having been nuked in the microwave. If that was the case, then the agent herself was a ghost as well, although I don't remember seeing her death at any point in the season. Again, I need to rewatch it.

True, she did suffer at the "hands" of the House, but at least she came out alive. Her daughter ends up dying on Halloween night, being hit by a car. All the other occupants weren't so lucky.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:03 pm UTC

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Hayden says "it was just tomato soup" or something, and the agent says she adopts the dog when talking with the last couple. Although, I kind of like the idea of the agent being a ghost too!
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:42 am UTC

As for my theory with Constance and the House:

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I seem to remember Constance saying the House was always hers, and it will once again become hers. That's why she was acting the way she was acting around the Harmons: She was trying to drive them away, perhaps trying to save them from the horrors that await them. When she saw they weren't going to go down so easily by being told of the gruesome history, she employed some of the ghosts to help. She had some control over the housemaid, and knew she could seduce Ben just as she had allegedly seduced Constance's husband, although the latter did the seducing. She knew only she could handle what the House had to offer, and I think the House (and its occupants) knew it. Ergo, the House had always belonged to her, and her it.
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Postby hawkinsssable » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:15 pm UTC

I don't know exactly when it was that American Horror Story stopped being an enjoyable albeit clunky show and became the weird, beautiful, genuinely gripping show I want to throw awards at, but at some point this season the show moved from "yeah, I'll download it each week and watch it when we don't have anything better" to one of my very favourite shows of all time.

The finale (and to a slightly lesser extent, the two episodes before it) were spectacularly good. They even managed to retroactively make the weaker subplots of this season kinda work in retroactively. Tim Minear's writing has always been pretty good, but he's improved so much since his days on Angel and Wonderfalls and even season 1 of American Horror; every last beat of this latest episode was perfect.
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Postby cephalopod9 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:12 am UTC

I missed at least on episode, what happened with the
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secret monster building nazi plot?

They made a big deal out of that, but it there wasn't anything about it in the last 3 episodes, and everyone involved died.

I don't know if I care enough to go back and watch it.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:57 am UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:I missed at least on episode, what happened with the
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secret monster building nazi plot?

They made a big deal out of that, but it there wasn't anything about it in the last 3 episodes, and everyone involved died.


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If I remember correctly, Dr. Arden ended up killing the monsters in the back woods. In the finale, Lana chased down Cardinal Howard and confronted him about having hired Dr. Arden, who had been revealed to have performed the human experiments, and was revealed to be a former Nazi. Also, while trying to dispose of Grace's body (she was one of his experiments gone wrong), he ends up meeting the aliens. Knowing that Kit has been in contact with them, Dr. Arden convinced Kit to become "temporarily" dead, which would put them both in contact with the aliens. Kit discovers both Grace and Alma (his secret wife) are alive and well with the aliens.


cephalopod9 wrote:I don't know if I care enough to go back and watch it.


I might buy the second season on DVD. If anything, it might help me catch anything that might have foreshadowed upcoming events.
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Re: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

Postby Thesh » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:43 am UTC

I have to say I really like how every season is completely disconnected and unrelated to the last. More shows should use this format. Long running TV shows tend to end up sucking towards the end, usually because they run out of ideas and don't know how to tie up their loose ends.
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