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Re: Firefly

Postby sugarhyped » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:45 pm UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:I said that...

i think he just read the first line.
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Re: Firefly

Postby Alder » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:58 pm UTC

I've just started watching a (fairly) new copy show called Life. The actress who played Saffron has an intermittant role. She's playing the main character's father's much younger fiance, and, although I know she's playing a different character, I can't see her without thinking, "Drop what you're doing and run!!! Saffron!!!"

So strange, just can't trust her. :D
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Re: Firefly

Postby nowfocus » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:36 pm UTC

Quick question for those firefly fans out there. I just started, and I need to know if the show 'ends' properly, or on some cliff hanger that never gets resolved.

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Re: Firefly

Postby Nath » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:11 pm UTC

Most of the loose ends are tied up in Serenity, but there are a few still hanging around (especially to do with one character's backstory). However, they're planning another comic to fill in the blanks.

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Re: Firefly

Postby nowfocus » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:31 pm UTC

Thanks Nath - I just didn't want another 'reboot' situation (though that comic is up now).
Jahoclave wrote:Besides if you observe romance, you change the outcome. Especially if you put his/her friend Catherine in a box.

Menacing Spike wrote:Was it the copper hammer or the children part that caused censoring?

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Re: Firefly

Postby thatguy » Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:06 am UTC

I bought myself a Jayne hoodie from ThinkGeek and literally two days later they were out of stock again.

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Re: Firefly

Postby headprogrammingczar » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:06 pm UTC

thatguy wrote:I bought myself a Jayne hoodie from ThinkGeek and literally two days later they were out of stock again.

For a second there, I thought you bought the Jayne hat (from that one episode with the not-so-dead guy).
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Re: Firefly

Postby thatguy » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:49 pm UTC

headprogrammingczar wrote:
thatguy wrote:I bought myself a Jayne hoodie from ThinkGeek and literally two days later they were out of stock again.

For a second there, I thought you bought the Jayne hat (from that one episode with the not-so-dead guy).

I wish. I'd buy one in a heartbeat, could I find one.

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Re: Firefly

Postby MotorToad » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:00 am UTC

Someone was selling the Jayne hat on the interwebtubes. I'm sure a short search will turn something up, but honestly I'm more than too lazy atm to do any such thing. :)
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Re: Firefly

Postby Amarantha » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:46 am UTC

I've seen a couple of sites selling Jayne hats. But they didn't really look the same.

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Re: Firefly

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:54 am UTC

My wife has the pattern for the Jayne hat, including lengths for each color to get it to match exactly. I keep telling her I'd never wear it.

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Re: Firefly

Postby Gojoe » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:41 am UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:My wife has the pattern for the Jayne hat, including lengths for each color to get it to match exactly. I keep telling her I'd never wear it.
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Re: Firefly

Postby Mr. Beck » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:58 pm UTC

My Grandma got me Jayne's Blue Sun shirt for my birthday. It's all manner of awesome.

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Re: Firefly

Postby GhostWolfe » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:25 am UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:My wife has the pattern for the Jayne hat, including lengths for each color to get it to match exactly. I keep telling her I'd never wear it.
I'll wear it!

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Re: Firefly

Postby headprogrammingczar » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:38 am UTC

Mr. Beck wrote:My Grandma got me Jayne's Blue Sun shirt for my birthday. It's all manner of awesome.

Where the fuck are you guys getting this stuff‽
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Re: Firefly

Postby sugarhyped » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:04 am UTC

headprogrammingczar wrote:
Mr. Beck wrote:My Grandma got me Jayne's Blue Sun shirt for my birthday. It's all manner of awesome.

Where the fuck are you guys getting this stuff‽

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Re: Firefly

Postby headprogrammingczar » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:57 pm UTC

sugarhyped wrote:
headprogrammingczar wrote:
Mr. Beck wrote:My Grandma got me Jayne's Blue Sun shirt for my birthday. It's all manner of awesome.

Where the fuck are you guys getting this stuff‽

blue sun shirt

Nice. Expect that shirt to be mine as soon as is humanly possible.
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Recognition of Firefly and Serenity

Postby mdb0790 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:19 am UTC

I'm very glad to see that a popular webcomic goes and mentions little tid-bits of the beloved, but hidden Firefly/Serentiy. Joss Whedon and cast has produced such a fine show and the word should get out to everyone so they can preview and see how great the series is (was). Who knows, maybe if enough people hear and start talking about it, they'll bring it back. Or at least make another movie.

Seriously, what other television show/movie can be categorized under Sci-Fi, Western, Comedy, Action, and Drama?

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Re: Recognition of Firefly and Serenity

Postby Jope » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:27 am UTC

mdb0790 wrote:Seriously, what other television show/movie can be categorized under Sci-Fi, Western, Comedy, Action, and Drama?


Any with Sci-fi and Western can pretty much be put in the other 3 categories.

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Re: Firefly

Postby Cleverdan22 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:43 am UTC

One of my friends is amazing at needlework, and is gonna make me a Jayne hat! I'm so excited!
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Re: Firefly

Postby darwinwins » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:46 am UTC

this show is dead. let it go, people. dead, dead, dead.
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Re: Recognition of Firefly and Serenity

Postby Endless Mike » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:05 pm UTC

Cowboy Bebop

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Re: Firefly

Postby darwinwins » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:40 pm UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:So is Darwin. Your point?

unlike whedon's work, the work of charles darwin progresses science still.

and cowboy bebop did the whole western in space thing way better, too.
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Re: Firefly

Postby Gunfingers » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:02 pm UTC

And Firefly still progresses our enjoyment.

All i know about Cowboy Bebop is that it's an anime, which fully discludes it from being better than anything non-anime. Therefore you are fully and incontrovertibly wrong. No tagsies backsies.

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Re: Recognition of Firefly and Serenity

Postby 3fj » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:33 pm UTC

Endless Mike wrote:Cowboy Bebop

Seconded. I usually don't like Anime, but this was pretty fantastic.
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Re: Recognition of Firefly and Serenity

Postby b.i.o » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:07 pm UTC

3fj wrote:Seconded. I usually don't like Anime, but this was pretty fantastic.


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Re: Firefly

Postby roc314 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:34 pm UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:So is Darwin. Your point?
A better comparison would have been Shakespeare.
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So is Shakespeare. Your point?
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Re: Firefly

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:37 pm UTC

His name is DarwinWins, though. I was making it applicable.

Darwin does not continue to make contributions to science. He made them a LONG time ago. Firefly, however, continues to influence sci-fi. Both Darwin and Firefly continue to influence people, though. They are both gone, they are both over, and yet they are both rightfully discussed.

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Re: Firefly

Postby aleflamedyud » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:36 am UTC

darwinwins wrote:this show is dead. let it go, people. dead, dead, dead.

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Re: Firefly

Postby darwinwins » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:05 am UTC

roc314 wrote:
Mighty Jalapeno wrote:So is Darwin. Your point?
A better comparison would have been Shakespeare.
darwinwins wrote:this show is dead. let it go, people. dead, dead, dead.
So is Shakespeare. Your point?

in the world of academia, shakespeare is still studied, analyzed, and is seen as genuine work of genius. firefly makes some creative and charming stories, but no, you can't compare whedon to shakespeare. not even close. in another generation, whedon will be forgotten. the bard will keep on kicking.
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Re: Firefly

Postby Jack Saladin » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:09 am UTC

i need some concrete examples of firefly influencing an entire generation of sci-fi. it's been what, two, three years since its cancellation? it ain't inspire shit.

It's inspired discussion here? I don't understand your argument. People are allowed to talk about Shakespeare because other people talk about Shakespeare, but people aren't allowed to talk about Firefly because no one talks about Firefly... There's a flaw in your logic.

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Re: Firefly

Postby roc314 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:38 am UTC

darwinwins wrote:In the world of academia, Shakespeare is still studied, analyzed, and is seen as genuine work of genius. Firefly makes some creative and charming stories, but no, you can't compare Whedon to Shakespeare. Not even close. In another generation, Whedon will be forgotten. The Bard will keep on kicking.
Hey some of us might have children. Do you think that they won't see Firefly?

Anyways, actually, I can compare Whedon to Shakespeare. Something doesn't have to be equally influential to be compared, especially as Firefly hasn't been out long enough for us to judge exactly how influential it is. Whedon obviously won't be as influential as Shakespeare, but no one can. Shakespeare happened to be around at the opportune time to exercise influence; it would be impossible for any one modernist to match his influence.

Your entire criticism comes down to "Firefly isn't sufficiently big and important enough, therefore it doesn't matter and you should 'let it go' ". You can set the arbitrary limit of that anywhere, we happen to set it a level that allows us to enjoy good television shows.

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Re: Firefly

Postby Jesse » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:52 am UTC

Shakespeare wasn't influential until long after his death.

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Re: Firefly

Postby Liet Kynes » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:46 pm UTC

Was anyone else disappointed with the lack of closure in the Shepard Book side-plot?

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Re: Firefly

Postby Jack Saladin » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:04 pm UTC

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Re: Firefly

Postby darwinwins » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:42 pm UTC

roc314 wrote:
darwinwins wrote:In the world of academia, Shakespeare is still studied, analyzed, and is seen as genuine work of genius. Firefly makes some creative and charming stories, but no, you can't compare Whedon to Shakespeare. Not even close. In another generation, Whedon will be forgotten. The Bard will keep on kicking.
Hey some of us might have children. Do you think that they won't see Firefly?

Anyways, actually, I can compare Whedon to Shakespeare. Something doesn't have to be equally influential to be compared, especially as Firefly hasn't been out long enough for us to judge exactly how influential it is. Whedon obviously won't be as influential as Shakespeare, but no one can. Shakespeare happened to be around at the opportune time to exercise influence; it would be impossible for any one modernist to match his influence.

Your entire criticism comes down to "Firefly isn't sufficiently big and important enough, therefore it doesn't matter and you should 'let it go' ". You can set the arbitrary limit of that anywhere, we happen to set it a level that allows us to enjoy good television shows.

Also, what Jack Saladin said.

you missed the point entirely. it's not that it didn't do well. i liked it. i did. but i've moved on. looking back, it wasn't exactly the greatest show in the world. it's got a handful of episodes and a movie. it didn't even make half a season. if you guys were discussing something like quantum leap or cheers, that's understandable. they had multiple seasons. what your discussions boil down to is a series of "what ifs?" doesn't that strike anyone else as being a little sad?
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Re: Firefly

Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:23 pm UTC

darwinwins wrote:it wasn't exactly the greatest show in the world.


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Re: Firefly

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:35 am UTC

darwinwins wrote:you missed the point entirely. it's not that it didn't do well. i liked it. i did. but i've moved on. looking back, it wasn't exactly the greatest show in the world. it's got a handful of episodes and a movie. it didn't even make half a season. if you guys were discussing something like quantum leap or cheers, that's understandable. they had multiple seasons. what your discussions boil down to is a series of "what ifs?" doesn't that strike anyone else as being a little sad?


The length of the show has no relevance to its quality at all. Lots of shows with multiple seasons sucked. As for just being "what ifs", it may help to keep in mind that Whedon is at least giving us comic books to continue the universe, so it's not like we're all sitting around saying "This show could have been awesome. Too bad it wasn't." Sure, it would have been great if it had continued. But I don't think of it that way, I look at the episodes I have and think "This show is awesome." It's not entirely predicated on wasted potential.
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