Joeldi wrote:* B plot about Asami and her father - Been done a million times before. Not sure whether they can go anywhere interesting with that but I didn't mind its inclusion.
Well, the creators did say they wanted to tie everything up...
Practically, his status as one of the world's greatest inventors could be useful. Working for the Equalists he invented the Mecha-Tank. Now, wanting to redeem himself, he could be a counter-weight to Kuvira's technological prowess (at least in the case of the spirit vine, which Varrick is being forced on).
I think that the Mecha Tanks still are out of place, but they are a bit cool.
I'm not sure that she's the reason he's suddenly become more moral. I mean, maybe... but I don't think her influence has been growing on him. I mean, perhaps his realization of it is... but it's always been there. He named his private battleship after her several years back. He named a unit of measurement after her. He's reliant on her in extreme ways. I think he's had for a while now a subconscious thing for her that he hasn't entirely yet come to terms with... Zhu Li herself showing her emotions a little more openly in the last episode.
As to whether her "betrayal" was a ploy or not... I'm not sure. If Zhu Li really does just wish to serve the most powerful (or she's mad at Varrick), yeah, probably real. If she is loyal to Varrick... greatest ploy ever.
As for an alternative Varrick explanation... possibly plot. Either that or the dangers of working with spirit energy. My guess is that even though he's connived and warmongered and all those things... he's never come close to actually releasing this much raw destruction on anything in such a blatant way.
I mean, even think back towards the end of S2, trying to kidnap Raiko to force the United Republic to go to war against Unalaq. He didn't try and kill
Raiko, the easiest thing. He just tried to kidnap
him. Harmful? yes? Deadly... not so blatantly.
Obviously Spirit Vines are analogous to Nuclear Energy/Bombs. Some of its creators were regretful about it later on, and I expect we're going to see the moral issue pop up here.
Isaac Hill wrote:
Izawwlgood wrote:I was kind of annoyed when Korra went on a 'but violence is the old me' kick. Yes. It was. And it solved all your problems in the past.
Well put. Sure, you can learn good ideas from bad guys, but you still have to whoop the bad guy's ass to stop them from implementing their ideas in horrible ways.
Tarrlock and Unalaq were able to manipulate Korra pretty easily. When Zaheer tried it, Korra admitted that there was something valid there, but didn't back down from trying to stop him. Her conversation with Kuvira seems like a step back. Though, it's possible that Korra didn't cotton to what Kuvira said as much as it appeared, and was just acting diplomatic to buy time.
Korra is physically healed. And she made a lot of mental progress. However, I think she might still be a bit reluctant to engage in physical combat in that she's not entirely confident in herself again. She's had to use violence a lot, but realizing non-violence is also important is... somewhat of a step forward.
The fact that she's talking to them and trying to reason with them is good. It should be the Avatar's job. "Can a reasonable solution be accomplished here without fighting?" And hey, Kuvira did agree to not attack before talking was over. She's reasonable in that sense.
However... well, look. There's some pretty clear analogs to WWII here (and many, many other conflicts, some perhaps more accurate, but WWII is the easiest generalization). Talking first, trying to work things out... is great. Wonderful. Should be pursued. But, in the end... sometimes when you've exhausted the options, it's time to fight. And I think that's how much of this will end up. Talking first good. But then having to resort to fighting.
Isaac Hill wrote:Suyin gave a pretty weak excuse in that flashback for not stepping in. Even if she didn't want absolute power/responsibility, she could have offered to act as an advisor instead of shutting down the idea of offering any help.
Your thoughts about being shaken by Aiwei are actually pretty interesting. Hadn't thought of that. Also the fact that she's always been Toph-like regarding authority. She's happy to run Zaofu. It's her thing. But she never respected the Earth Kingdom and likely wouldn't have been keen on being the force she's so long resented.
But I think she can be a bit shaky.
"Stop the chaos going on in the Earth Kingdom? No, no. I couldn't possibly impose myself".
"Stop Kuvira's conquering the Earth Kingdom, and attacking us? .... yeah, let's go assassinate her".
Kuvira had valid points. She has been heavy handed, conquering and using troops and such... and I don't excuse the reeducation camps. But she had a point in that someone had to pull everything together. Things must not have been too great for the average Ba Sing Se'er, Earth Kingdom Citizen, etc. And Zaofu's modern ideas could've helped as well. (Although in the last episode I did see her turn a bit towards monarchism. Referring to loyalty to "her" instead of "The Earth Empire", and of Earth peoples as "Subjects" instead of "Citizens" or "People").
I think it goes back to what Toph said about balance. I feel Su might have gone a bit too far in one direction... doing nothing. But also that Kuvira has gone way too far in the other... extreme force.
As for Mako, I like Mako. But I feel his place right now is good. (King) Wu needs to learn something about responsibility and looking out for others, and I think Mako's just the guy for that.
Also... one thing I'm a bit disappointed in: I totally would have expected Omashu to put up more of a fight. Maybe it did and we didn't see it, but I totally would think that Omashu would be strong enough to stand up to Kuvira.
It would also have been awesome if there was like a 190 year old Bumi still alive, leading resistance. (or then again... Neutral Jing. That's probably why)