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by **Bakemaster** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:14 am UTC

That's pretty cool, but some of the proportions are wacky. See: Aang's head/neck, Toph pretty much from the sternum down. That kind of kills it for me.

by **Okita** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:42 am UTC

I like the concept more than the actual art I suppose. You're right in that it could be drawn better.

by **Bakemaster** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:04 pm UTC

Actually I think what irks me more than the proportions is that they decided Toph had to be older and sexier. Predictable, unimaginative, distasteful, and then they don't even do it right. The rest of it is awesome, but that makes me sad and a little grumpy.

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:19 pm UTC

Dude, its FAN art. I.e., interpretive.
I think Toph's salty nature is damned hot, that is to say, for a 14 year old. Mei is hotter then Azula. While her ranting on the beach episode was hilarious ("AND TOGETHER WE WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL COUPLE IN THE WORLD!"), she's not the type to enjoy a good bedroom romp that doesn't involve lightening bolting your nethers off.
Mei on the other hand, is flexible, and able to selectively control ones Chi.... Comon... THINK ABOUT IT...
Cyberpunk Aang makes my heart warm.

EDIT: Errr, mayhaps thats a little too much thinking on a cartoon... (Suki's probably the kinkiest anyhow...)

by **pieaholicx** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:41 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Mei on the other hand, is flexible, and able to selectively control ones Chi.... Comon... THINK ABOUT IT...

You mean Ty Lee? Mai is the dull one that throws knives, Ty Lee is the flexible one.

by **Aleril** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:49 pm UTC

pieaholicx wrote:
Izawwlgood wrote:Mei on the other hand, is flexible, and able to selectively control ones Chi.... Comon... THINK ABOUT IT...

You mean Ty Lee? Mai is the dull one that throws knives, Ty Lee is the flexible one.

Yea, and her knifes barely do anything.

Its just fun seeing Ty Lee be all cute then go into a group of highly trained Earth Benders and ruin their shit.

by **pieaholicx** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:53 pm UTC

Aleril wrote:
pieaholicx wrote:
Izawwlgood wrote:Mei on the other hand, is flexible, and able to selectively control ones Chi.... Comon... THINK ABOUT IT...

You mean Ty Lee? Mai is the dull one that throws knives, Ty Lee is the flexible one.

Yea, and her knifes barely do anything.

Its just fun seeing Ty Lee be all cute then go into a group of highly trained Earth Benders and ruin their shit.

The knives make good distractions? Yeah, I know it's a stretch, but at least I'm trying.

Yeah, Ty Lee is arguably one of the best fighters there. Granted, she doesn't bend or really fight, but she can take bending away, which is pretty powerful.

by **Bakemaster** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:21 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I think Toph's salty nature is damned hot, that is to say, for a 14 year old.

She's 12.

by **Belial** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:50 pm UTC

Okay, leaving aside the gorram creepy discussion of which animated minor would be the best to have sex with....

...fucking creeps....

...The reason Mai's knives don't do much is because it's a kid's show and they're not allowed to just straight-up stab people.

Similar to the reason you've never seen Sokka gut someone with his sword or Zuko decapitate someone with his double daos.

by **pieaholicx** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:54 pm UTC

Belial wrote:...The reason Mai's knives don't do much is because it's a kid's show and they're not allowed to just straight-up stab people.

Similar to the reason you've never seen Sokka gut someone with his sword or Zuko decapitate someone with his double daos.

Which has got me thinking that somebody really needs to remake this show for a more mature audience. The show is already badass as it is, but that would just be amazing incarnate.

by **Aleril** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:00 pm UTC

Hell lets come up with a few ideas on how Avatar could be more awesome if it was for more mature audiences.

The first thing I can think of is advanced water benders being able to tear out the moisture within a person, leaving them a pile of dust.

by **Belial** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:02 pm UTC

I get the feeling the creators are feeling pretty constrained by that, too. We like to sit and watch the more battle-heavy episodes and note every time where an extra *probably* died off camera.

For example, in the Day of Black Sun:

Spoiler:

The seige at the Northern Air temple had a lot of implied fire nation deaths, too. Like when Aang dropped that whole mountain worth of snow on an entire column. I somehow doubt they dug their way out.

Same with the seige of the Northern Water Tribe.

But they can't get away with actually killing them on camera or even making it particularly obvious that they died.

by **Aleril** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:09 pm UTC

But I think that is part of the beauty of Avatar, they can get by in Nickelodeon's kid-friendlyness and still be very bad assed in so many different ways.

Like when Zuko hires the assassin to kill Aang, he doesnt say Kill, but says "I want you to End him" which sound waaaay more cooler.

by **Okita** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:33 pm UTC

I don't think I could enjoy Avatar as much if suddenly these kids were killing people outright all the time. It'd sort of require the same suspension of disbelief I need to watch Naruto with the whole "really young ninja kids killing each other" bit.

That said, there could be so many awesome games made related to this show but you know that developers are just going to try and make a quick buck on putting avatar sprites slapped on to an old game engine. Grrrr....

by **Belial** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:28 pm UTC

Okita wrote:I don't think I could enjoy Avatar as much if suddenly these kids were killing people outright all the time. It'd sort of require the same suspension of disbelief I need to watch Naruto with the whole "really young ninja kids killing each other" bit.

Except they are. They just tend to do it indirectly. "Tee hee, I froze that fire nation soldier to her cannon with her arms and legs bound in six inches of ice and then left her there with no support and no one even knowing she's there! I'm sure she'll be fine!"

"Oh, I seem to have sliced those nice men's balloon in half, 2000 feet above the ground. I'm sure they'll survive the fall"

"I just intentionally caused an avalanche that buried half the fire nation army under 20 feet of snow. I'm sure they'll dig out before they suffocate. Somehow."

"I got angry about a fish, and started throwing around fire nation battleships. I'm sure their crew will survive that. Yeah. >.>...."

by **thecommabandit** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:44 pm UTC

It's fine for Aang. I mean, he's the Avatar. He should be very powerful, even at his young age, but that's the main reason I can't watch Naruto (apart from the time-scale being divided by one hundred and most of an episode a clip of the episode before it). Damn 14 year-olds running about the place killing each other and working together like they've been ninja'ing about the ninja world for decades. Anyway, enough about Naruto.

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:42 pm UTC

I dunno, you think of the forces involved in alot of movements (throwing boulders, firehose quantity waterbursts, um, firebending period) and i think its sort of implied that what these KIDS are doing is incredibly dangerous. That we havn't seen more serious injuries then Katara getting her hands singed (wimp), or Aang's back getting a little welt is pretty remarkable.

Alot of fantastic stories would be improved upon greatly if they were geared towards mature audiences, anyone remember the Hulk movie and how NO ONE died?

Then again, the shows about the kids and their coming of age. Given that they're all so young, Aang displays a remarkable sense of maturity, and an empathy beyond his years. That the youth are given the power in a world they're also instructed to change, i'm sort of glad they're doing it mostly non-violently (viva la fire nation dance revolution!)

by **Belial** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:54 pm UTC

Well, also, I don't think they're really being treated as children in their societies.

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:10 pm UTC

No, they certainly aren't, and thats a good indication of the weight thats placed on them. Katara breaks down and her dad guides her a bit, Sokka bungles his speech, Aang tries to run away... Toph hasn't had any sort of breakthrough or teaching that I can recall, she's stubborn.

Zuko's as angsty as they come. But DAMN has he manned up.

I really give nickalodean (and obviously the writers) an enormous amount of credit for putting this show up. Nick has always done good to empower kids to not be sheep, and this show is the best i've seen.

by **thecommabandit** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:22 pm UTC

I guess most of you have heard about the live-action Avatar film they've been planning? Been halted at the moment because someone else has a claim to the name "Avatar" as a film title. It would be pretty cool if that was more mature (or at least, people bled and burns weren't just red marks on your skin). I can see it being a pain for the actor who plays Aang though, the amount of casual airbending he does, floating around, pushing himself up and around it'd be murder to do all that in a harness.

by **Jesse** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:54 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Alot of fantastic stories would be improved upon greatly if they were geared towards mature audiences, anyone remember the Hulk movie and how NO ONE died?

As far as I am aware, Hulk has never intentionally killed anyone in the comics either. It was kind of a big point, that even when he was at the height of his anger, he never became truly inhuman, because Banner's soul was still there.

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:56 pm UTC

Nonono, thats Banners guilt, everytime he wakes up in a strange place, and picks up a paper to read about this explosion or that bridge collapse, he wonders how many people killed while enraged. Hulk kills LOTS of people, thats why the avengers had him locked up, thats why the governments always after him, and thats why banner is always trying very hard to keep his cool. He's the physical manifestation of RAGE, not of "Excuse me sir, i believe your in my way".

by **Jesse** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:58 pm UTC

Taken from Hulk: Gray.

"Yes... It's one of the... improbable things about your alter ego. All that destruction... The buildings, the hardware, the millions of dollars that the Army spent trying to bring you in --"

"-- That was the Army's choice, not mine, Leonard."

"Why do you think no one ever got killed, Bruce?"

by **Izawwlgood** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:08 pm UTC

Shocking, but true, there is more then one storyline in the marval universe. I believe it was Ultimate Avengers that depicted Hulk as feasting on the intestines of some pulpy foes corpse.

by **Okita** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:16 am UTC

I think in general we generally assume the normal Marvel universe unless someone outright says "Ultimate-something". Otherwise we could point out that in Marvel Zombies Hulk ate people.

by **Geekthras** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:25 am UTC

And now back on topic:

thecommabandit wrote:I guess most of you have heard about the live-action Avatar film they've been planning? Been halted at the moment because someone else has a claim to the name "Avatar" as a film title. It would be pretty cool if that was more mature (or at least, people bled and burns weren't just red marks on your skin). I can see it being a pain for the actor who plays Aang though, the amount of casual airbending he does, floating around, pushing himself up and around it'd be murder to do all that in a harness.

o.o

I guess most of you have heard about the live-action Avatar film they've been planning

O.O

live-action Avatar

O__________O

No.

by **Belial** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:51 am UTC

Yes. The creators are apparently pretty on board with the whole idea, and M. Night Shyamalan is directing.

by **Aleril** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:27 am UTC

i...

I'm scared..

Someone please hold me.

by **Geekthras** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:46 am UTC

Maybe I'm just biased against live-action movies based on animated series

There are a few exceptions, but seriously...

by **Girl™** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:55 am UTC

Geekthras wrote:Maybe I'm just biased against live-action movies based on animated series

There are a few exceptions, but seriously...

To be fair, those are all based on really silly and mindless comedies. Aside from Transformers. But that has giant robots.

by **Geekthras** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:59 am UTC

Good point, however that's kind of what I'm afraid of. Some kind of "let's make this funnier! Lol, getting hit in the crotch are funnies!" movie.

by **Belial** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:19 am UTC

Erm. Do you really expect crotch-shot humor from Shyamalan?

The worst I'm afraid of is that he'll add in some sort of asinine twist. But I don't think he will.

by **The Mighty Thesaurus** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:31 am UTC

That's exactly what I thought when I heard that he was on to write and direct

by **Okita** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:19 pm UTC

Well... I hear that he also watches the show with his kids and stuff. So... it depends on whether he's selfish or not. If he's selfish, he'll try to put in his own twists on the script but... if he's just directing the script written by perhaps at least some of the show's original writers, I think we'll have a good movie to watch.

Although when I think about it... what kind of movie plot could you get that "fits" in with the series....?

I just looked at one of the walls in my little library cubicle thing and it says "Avatar the Last Airbender"<--- Good show.

Heh.

by **Belial** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:23 pm UTC

Supposedly, it's supposed to be 3 movies, each representing one season.

Also-supposedly, he's working in some degree of collaboration with the creators (DiMartino and Konietzko), so it'll probably be pretty decent.

by **pieaholicx** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:27 pm UTC

I have a feeling this will end up being one of those movies that I have to see for myself, even if I hear that it's going to be bad.

by **Geekthras** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:50 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Erm. Do you really expect crotch-shot humor from Shyamalan?

The worst I'm afraid of is that he'll add in some sort of asinine twist. But I don't think he will.

Oh. I missed that comment. Well then that's good. This is sounding better and better.

by **Izawwlgood** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:21 pm UTC

Spoiler:

by **pieaholicx** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:24 pm UTC

Spoiler:

by **Izawwlgood** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:28 pm UTC

Spoiler:

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