The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Now with spoilers!)

[Delass]

Yeah, but I think that the other terminator is going to try and kill sarah while shes in jail, and obviously cameron and john are going to try and rescue her. AND the T1000. I hope its a two hour episode, because really, do they have enough time to tie everything up in 45 minutes?

Interesting thing...Everyone from the future who died is still alive as their younger selves, except Riley who might not be born yet.

[Brooklynxman]

My theory:

Spoiler:

Weaver is attempting to create a different skynet, one that gets along with people. Hence why she is having it taught morals. To what end I am not sure, but I am almost certain that she wants it to eventually co-exist with humans.

[Neuman]

Yeah, but I think that the other terminator is going to try and kill sarah while shes in jail, and obviously cameron and john are going to try and rescue her. AND the T1000. I hope its a two hour episode, because really, do they have enough time to tie everything up in 45 minutes?

Looks like it's an hour. Also, it's called the Season Finale, not the Series Finale. I know it's not definitive but it's still something.

[stolid]

Seeing as Sarah is in jail, they won't have much time to waste talking at the beginning. It'll probably be lots of action (getting her out) right from the start and then the ZeiraCorp stuff.

Or Weaver could go visit Sarah in jail.

[McLovin]

My theory:

Spoiler:

Weaver is attempting to create a different skynet, one that gets along with people. Hence why she is having it taught morals. To what end I am not sure, but I am almost certain that she wants it to eventually co-exist with humans.

I'm inclined to agree with this. But. After what just happened.

Spoiler:

WHAT THE FUCK X-WING! THIS IS NOT STAR WARS. AND BATTLE DAMAGED BADASS CAMERON FOR THE WIN. AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

Edit: MY HEAD REALLY ASPLODE WTF.

[Ati]

Whoa. Holy frack. Holy frack!

What just happened?

[lemmings]

Whoa. Holy frack. Holy frack!

What just happened?

A 6 month cliffhanger; that is what just happened!

Spoiler:

John was sent to a timeline before his father went back thus he doesn't exist yet, or he could have just been forgotten because he disappeared at such a young age rather than fighting Skynet in the war.

[thatguy]

Forgot today was Friday and accidentally read everything

[stolid]

So now we wait for Terminator: Salvation I guess.

Spoiler:

Well that just about ends the show. It doesn't look like it would be very possible to have another season or revive the show in the future.

Did the show by any chance just end in a way as to be ready for Terminator Salvation? I don't know what year they were sent to, but it couldn't be far from 2018 or whatever. And what the hell would Weaver do now?

[Princess Marzipan]

Spoiler:

Well that just about ends the show. It doesn't look like it would be very possible to have another season or revive the show in the future.

Uh, dude. No it doesn't.

[lemmings]

Spoiler:

I don't know what year they were sent to, but it couldn't be far from 2018

According to the Terminator wiki:

Kyle Reese was born in 2008, and he served in the resistance from 2021 to 2029, from 2027 to 2029 he served under John Connor so given that they didn’t recognize John’s name, it would be safe to assume that they were sent before 2027. 2018 is far too young though as Kyle would have only been 10 at the time and we see him at least as old as the 16 year old John so unless the writers decided to screw up the timeline, it should be sometime between 2024 and 2027 (preference for the latter).

[smw543]

First off, the reason Derek doesn't recognize him is, without a doubt, because he is a nobody. He jumped forward in 2009 (or thereabouts), so he didn't exist for ~10 years. It's exceedingly difficult to rise to the position of five star general when you don't exist. This, of course, means that the events of T1, T2, T3, and most of TSCC were a waste of time (except for things like blowing up Cyberdyne), since John doesn't matter anymore (although they were entertaining, and that's all that really matters.) Basically, it doesn't matter what time they jumped to, the very fact that he jumped forward meant that he wouldn't be around to do any of the things that he was supposed to do, the things that would make him the John Connor.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the T1001 was apparently piloting the thing that hit the building* (if you didn't notice, a bit of metal slithered out of the wreckage and rejoined with her leg.) This would seem to imply that she did it as a quick way of ensuring John's trust, possibly to trick him (this might explain why she disappeared just after they reached the future, though it could be that she was simply worried about being recognized as a terminator.)

But why trick him? She could kill him at any time with minimal effort, but maybe she just wanted to fuck with him? Something involving his refusal of her offer? (Actually Cameron's refusal, but she didn't know that.) Also, are we to assume that Weaver is the same terminator that showed up on the submarine? Does it make a difference? Am I asking too many questions?

*@ McLovin: Stop bitching, there were no "X-WINGS ZOMGCAPSLOCK!!!" Those things have appeared on the show on at least three occasions, probably more.

[Ati]

Spoiler:

The liquid metal snake that rejoined her leg was the eel, I believe.

EDIT: Oh, incidentally, the scene with

Spoiler:

Cameron and John on the bed

was the most disturbing thing I've seen on network television in some time. That's a good thing.

[The E]

Holy season finale, Batman! I sure hope this series does make a comeback, these cliffhangers are really disturbing to my mental well-being....

[thatguy]

It's been well established that TSCC is a separated entity from the movies. I'm interested to see if Summer Glau is now playing Cameron or Allison. And it'll be interesting to see how Derek and Kyle (as they seem to be in charge) will handle the time-traveler(s). I also think it's safe to assume that John Henry knew Catherine would come after him, so it'll be intersting to see how they meet up and to what ends.

The one thing that bugged me was John Henry shouldn't have been able to move without being connected to the mainframe. I thought that he didn't have any sort of processing power on his endoskeleton... Oh well, I guess writers will do what they want.

[The E]

The one thing that bugged me was John Henry shouldn't have been able to move without being connected to the mainframe. I thought that he didn't have any sort of processing power on his endoskeleton... Oh well, I guess writers will do what they want.

It would seem that John Henry somehow got her chip installed in his body...Damn. If this series isn't continued in one form or anaother, there will be violence.

[Ati]

Interesting that Cameron didn’t kill anyone in her assault on the prison. Presumably John’s orders.

I’m curious about Cameron’s chip. My best guess is that he needed a mind for his body. Since Terminator’s cannot commit suicide (and such an action would run counter to both her original and new missions), I’d put good odds that Cameron and whatever portion of John Henry could be transferred are both running on one chip, and using John Henry’s body. This could cause some confusion.

Interesting that Cameron’s body didn’t go through. Either it’s because without her chip running the support machinery, all of the tissue is now dead, or time travel has something to do with conscious entities (which would actually make more sense, given the continuity of the show).

Because they’re in a bunker, it can be safely assumed that Sarah did not manage to avert Judgment Day. Possibly due to cancer.

Okay, so in this timeline, John effectively pulled himself out of the timeline, leaving two of his chief lieutenants (the Reese brothers) in charge. Kyle Reese was never sent back to protect Sarah Connor (T1), and therefore never fathered John Connor, or died. It’s possible that time travel does not exist in this timeline. Presumably, due to all the effort that went into saving John Connor, the resistance is in a substantially worse place than it was before.

Also, Allison is here (the dog didn’t go nuts, so it’s not Cameron), which puts this before her abduction and replacement, which may actually be pretty early in the war.

[Princess Marzipan]

Interesting that Cameron’s body didn’t go through. Either it’s because without her chip running the support machinery, all of the tissue is now dead, or time travel has something to do with conscious entities (which would actually make more sense, given the continuity of the show).

Cameron's body is now dead.

Okay, so in this timeline, John effectively pulled himself out of the timeline, leaving two of his chief lieutenants (the Reese brothers) in charge. Kyle Reese was never sent back to protect Sarah Connor (T1), and therefore never fathered John Connor, or died. It’s possible that time travel does not exist in this timeline. Presumably, due to all the effort that went into saving John Connor, the resistance is in a substantially worse place than it was before.

Or maybe Kyle Reese hasn't been sent back YET. It's also possible that Sarah accomplished something that delayed Judgment Day further. And, if time travel doesn't exist in this future, it does now that it's happened. And I'd bet WeaverBot knows how to pull it off, given...that, y'know, she just did.

[Delass]

Spoilers,

The scene with john and cameron on the bed was amazing. I could seriously write an essay on why that scene was amazing. I hope the AP test prompt fits it. I cant decide if it was better than the ballet scene, though. Scenes like that are why I love this show. Summer glau acting totally human, while at the same time theres just one single thing that isnt human about it that creates an awesome paradox.

I think the T1000 is the same as the one from the future, because it asked cameron what they were asking her. An alliance seemed to be what future john wanted, so when it was offered, cameron said yes. But why travel into the future? You have so many more opportunities from the past.

I thought john henrys 'chip' was the huge computer always behind him? So for him to leave, thats why he needed camerons chip. His body seemed to work fine, but his chip was having issues, like camerons body was having issues. But again, why leave?

It might just be that time travelling forward is a better insurance of survival than hiding in a bunker, and doesnt cost precious years. It seems to be stopping skynet was definitely not going to happen, as not even the T1000 was trying. We don't know when John became fearless leader, so rather than missing out on all the things that made him a hero, he may have just been teleported to a time to have an excellent oportunity to become a leader. Reese even said it, "I think youll be famous".

Which is, according to wiki, how the movie starts. At the beginning, John does not start off as leader of the human resistance, but will work his way through the ranks in the film.

Im hoping the new movie(s?) follow this, but unless a huge ammount of released details were conspired, and summer glau managed to be part of it without anyone noticing... (it would be pretty awesome, but its unlikely) Its a shame, this show was so much better than T3. Oh well.

Oh, one more thing. Sarah Conner time traveled forward too. At the very end, you get a blue spark, then her voice.

Interesting: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Termin ... 864/?itm=1

Edit: anyone know what bible story sarah was talking about? The locks falling off, the priest mentioned peter, but I cant find anything with google.

[thatguy]

I think the crackle of electricity signifies that she said "I love you" to John as he was being zapped away, not that she came along.

[Delass]

Oh, maybe. I guess it doesnt really matter either way, though.

[stolid]

Yeah I doubt she followed him. But I'm surprised she could just let her son go without her.

[smw543]

@Ati: You mean the eel in her aquarium? I don't remember them showing it was anything more than a regular eel, though I could be mistaken.

The scene with john and cameron on the bed was amazing. I could seriously write an essay on why that scene was amazing. I hope the AP test prompt fits it.

A bajillion dollars if you do this. (Also, could she have been intentionally making the situation sexier? I'm pretty sure he cut into her stomach, so there was no need to remove her bra (though this could just be an excuse not to show anything but their faces, since it would require a lot of CG.)) Anyways, I'm pretty sure he voided her warranty, if ya know what I mean

We don't know when John became fearless leader, so rather than missing out on all the things that made him a hero, he may have just been teleported to a time to have an excellent oportunity to become a leader. Reese even said it, "I think youll be famous".

Fair enough. I suppose it's never really "too late" to become the leader of the resistance, as long as the resistance still exists, though that late in the game it's going to be pretty hard. The only reason why he was a significant person in the present-day part was that he was one of the only people who knew what was going on. Now, not only has he missed out on ten years of proving himself as a worthy leader, he's missed out on ten years of learning how to be a worthy leader (even recently they've implied that he's still a long way from being future-John.)

One other thing: if it is the case that John Henry made himself portable by putting himself on Cameron's chip, he should be considerably altered. Changing out a single wire caused a significant glitch, so transferring his entire personality should mess him up pretty bad. Also, I don't think he's sharing the chip with Cameron; I thought that the screen displaying the message "I'm sorry, John." was meant to show that Cameron was now on the mainframe, that they had traded places. The other interpretation is that Cameron convinced John Henry to put her chip in his body so that she could use it (since hers was so badly damaged; also the reason she couldn't time travel - there was a lot of bare metal) and then asked him to relay the message. But this gets slashed to hell by Occam's razor.

I guess we'll just have to wait for season 3.[/self-delusion]

[Ati]

@Ati: You mean the eel in her aquarium? I don't remember them showing it was anything more than a regular eel, though I could be mistaken.

The scene with john and cameron on the bed was amazing. I could seriously write an essay on why that scene was amazing. I hope the AP test prompt fits it.

A bajillion dollars if you do this. (Also, could she have been intentionally making the situation sexier? I'm pretty sure he cut into her stomach, so there was no need to remove her bra (though this could just be an excuse not to show anything but their faces, since it would require a lot of CG.)) Anyways, I'm pretty sure he voided her warranty, if ya know what I mean

We don't know when John became fearless leader, so rather than missing out on all the things that made him a hero, he may have just been teleported to a time to have an excellent oportunity to become a leader. Reese even said it, "I think youll be famous".

Fair enough. I suppose it's never really "too late" to become the leader of the resistance, as long as the resistance still exists, though that late in the game it's going to be pretty hard. The only reason why he was a significant person in the present-day part was that he was one of the only people who knew what was going on. Now, not only has he missed out on ten years of proving himself as a worthy leader, he's missed out on ten years of learning how to be a worthy leader (even recently they've implied that he's still a long way from being future-John.)

One other thing: if it is the case that John Henry made himself portable by putting himself on Cameron's chip, he should be considerably altered. Changing out a single wire caused a significant glitch, so transferring his entire personality should mess him up pretty bad. Also, I don't think he's sharing the chip with Cameron; I thought that the screen displaying the message "I'm sorry, John." was meant to show that Cameron was now on the mainframe, that they had traded places. The other interpretation is that Cameron convinced John Henry to put her chip in his body so that she could use it (since hers was so badly damaged; also the reason she couldn't time travel - there was a lot of bare metal) and then asked him to relay the message. But this gets slashed to hell by Occam's razor.

I guess we'll just have to wait for season 3.[/self-delusion]

If you watch the scene again on Hulu, the liquid metal snake starts out as an eel, turns silvery, and merges into her body.

As far as Cameron making things sexier, she was definitely acting oddly. Note the long gap between saying "John" and "It's time to go." Whatever else was going on, there was definitely something else happening, on both sides.

Given the repeating nature of the message, I'm thinking that Cameron and John Henry are room mates (or dual booting) from Cameron's chip. This raises the interesting possibility of parts of John Henry's personality imprinting onto Cameron, which could make for some fascinating character development. Especially since John Henry appears capable of empathy and perhaps some simple emotion.

[Nath]

Or maybe Kyle Reese hasn't been sent back YET.

This was how I read the situation. Still, it doesn't seem very plausible for some 16 year old kid to show up and become the leader of the resistance. One possibility is that he'll go back to the past and rise through the ranks the old-fashioned way, but then I'm not sure the timeline should have changed in the first place. Well, no sense arguing about the mechanics of Hollywood time travel.

I wonder if Cameron's change of (LED) eye color was intentional.

I cant decide if it was better than the ballet scene, though. Scenes like that are why I love this show.

You know, I never got that scene. It seemed like a horribly uncharacteristic thing for a terminator to do, and I don't think it was explained. I realize that they've always been trying to show that there was something different about Cameron, but this came somewhat out of the blue. It was as if the T-800 from the first movie was suddenly seen eating popcorn and laughing at America's Funniest Home Videos.

[smw543]

If you watch the scene again on Hulu, the liquid metal snake starts out as an eel, turns silvery, and merges into her body.

I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention.

I cant decide if it was better than the ballet scene, though. Scenes like that are why I love this show.

You know, I never got that scene. It seemed like a horribly uncharacteristic thing for a terminator to do, and I don't think it was explained. I realize that they've always been trying to show that there was something different about Cameron, but this came somewhat out of the blue. It was as if the T-800 from the first movie was suddenly seen eating popcorn and laughing at America's Funniest Home Videos.

I thought it was more or less equivalent to how she would sneak out to the library; she wasn't necessarily doing it because she enjoyed it, she was doing it to learn. We already know that she actively tries to learn about humans and the human experience, so it's not unreasonable to assume that when she spent that time at the ballet studio, she became curious about how those people were acting. (Of course, there's also the cop-out answer: it was due to the damage to her chip.)

[stolid]

I think sometimes she takes advice that isn't really relevant to her anyway.

(Of course, there's also the cop-out answer: it was due to the damage to her chip.)

She hadn't been car-bombed yet at that point. (the car blew up 2 episodes later -- assuming you're talking about the dancing)

I guess John was sent to before Kyle was sent back. I wonder what year John Henry went to.

[ArgonV]

Bleegh, time travel is a mindfuck.

I think it's pretty clear

Spoiler:

future Cameron is Allison and not Cameron, since she was petting a dog. Dogs normally act all aggravated when around Terminators

Time travel could still exist, the scenes with the Terminators hauling around the jet engines implies Skynet invented time travel

John and Cameron on the bed had me thinking this was another one of Sarah's dreams

[Delass]

I cant decide if it was better than the ballet scene, though. Scenes like that are why I love this show.

You know, I never got that scene. It seemed like a horribly uncharacteristic thing for a terminator to do, and I don't think it was explained. I realize that they've always been trying to show that there was something different about Cameron, but this came somewhat out of the blue. It was as if the T-800 from the first movie was suddenly seen eating popcorn and laughing at America's Funniest Home Videos.

What about a terminator giving a kid a hi5, saying "no problemo" and giving a thumb up right before it dies?
Summer Glau just does the unsympathetic-killing-machine-except-a-little-bit-not a lot better than arnold, imho.

I thought it was more or less equivalent to how she would sneak out to the library; she wasn't necessarily doing it because she enjoyed it, she was doing it to learn. We already know that she actively tries to learn about humans and the human experience, so it's not unreasonable to assume that when she spent that time at the ballet studio, she became curious about how those people were acting. (Of course, there's also the cop-out answer: it was due to the damage to her chip.)

IMHO, she did enjoy it. Ish. I think that was one of her first legitimate emotional events. Its awkward to word.

@Ati: You mean the eel in her aquarium? I don't remember them showing it was anything more than a regular eel, though I could be mistaken.

I just rewatched the eel scene, they showed her legs and the eel after she turned back from the shield shape, and it was eel, then turned to metal, then joined with her. But I dont know why thats significant. Ideas?

The scene with john and cameron on the bed was amazing. I could seriously write an essay on why that scene was amazing. I hope the AP test prompt fits it.

A bajillion dollars if you do this. (Also, could she have been intentionally making the situation sexier? I'm pretty sure he cut into her stomach, so there was no need to remove her bra (though this could just be an excuse not to show anything but their faces, since it would require a lot of CG.)) Anyways, I'm pretty sure he voided her warranty, if ya know what I mean

She said reach under the breastplate, so yeah, it was second base. A rather human activity, but made just a little bit weird and machine by the nuclear shielded battery thing. And the cold. Cold is usually bad under those circumstances. But the "thats good, right?" ....."its good...its perfect" is normal...ish. Oh, and does cameron normally audibly breathe? I know john was breathing a lot, but atleast one of the nervous breathes was at the same time cameron opened her mouth. Also, I like that they didn't kiss. It would have been cliche, and kind of ruin the whole slightly different because shes metal thing.

We don't know when John became fearless leader, so rather than missing out on all the things that made him a hero, he may have just been teleported to a time to have an excellent oportunity to become a leader. Reese even said it, "I think youll be famous".

Fair enough. I suppose it's never really "too late" to become the leader of the resistance, as long as the resistance still exists, though that late in the game it's going to be pretty hard. The only reason why he was a significant person in the present-day part was that he was one of the only people who knew what was going on. Now, not only has he missed out on ten years of proving himself as a worthy leader, he's missed out on ten years of learning how to be a worthy leader (even recently they've implied that he's still a long way from being future-John.)

Thats true. Either way. /Shrug. I guess we will find out when Salvation follows TSCC and not that other movie thing. /sob.

One other thing: if it is the case that John Henry made himself portable by putting himself on Cameron's chip, he should be considerably altered. Changing out a single wire caused a significant glitch, so transferring his entire personality should mess him up pretty bad. Also, I don't think he's sharing the chip with Cameron; I thought that the screen displaying the message "I'm sorry, John." was meant to show that Cameron was now on the mainframe, that they had traded places. The other interpretation is that Cameron convinced John Henry to put her chip in his body so that she could use it (since hers was so badly damaged; also the reason she couldn't time travel - there was a lot of bare metal) and then asked him to relay the message. But this gets slashed to hell by Occam's razor.

I guess we'll just have to wait for season 3.[/self-delusion]

I thought the glitch was a problem with his chip hardware, not software. So if his software was on the proper chip...shrug, I have no idea. But Im pretty sure John Henrys personality is in the future, hence the T1000 going into the future. So is Camerons personality, hence john going into the future. I think the "Im sorry John" was just a message, otherwise there probobly would have been more conversation.
If her body had went with them, it would have been rather awkward to explain it to the humans, especially with allison.



One more thing John wouldnt have travelled into the future if it weren't for cameron. He wouldn't have met allison if it wasnt for that time travel. But cameron wouldn't have been made and sent back if it wasnt for the relationship between allison and john.

Kinda reminds me of T1.

[smw543]

IMHO, she did enjoy it. Ish. I think that was one of her first legitimate emotional events. Its awkward to word.

I didn't mean to say she didn't enjoy it (which I think she did,) just that the reason why she first did it was to figure out what the point was. Maybe it was her first time dancing alone, and she was doing it to learn, or maybe she had already decided that she "liked" it, and what Derek saw truly was recreational. (People are the same way, more or less; the first time we try something is to see what the fuss is about and decide if we like it.)

I just rewatched the eel scene, they showed her legs and the eel after she turned back from the shield shape, and it was eel, then turned to metal, then joined with her. But I dont know why thats significant. Ideas?

I don't think it was, other than maybe to show that the one living thing that you thought she identified with was actually just her. But this isn't necessarily a bad thing; I think it implies that she, too, is at least making an attempt at understanding humans (or at least living organisms.)

I thought the glitch was a problem with his chip hardware, not software. So if his software was on the proper chip...shrug, I have no idea. But Im pretty sure John Henrys personality is in the future, hence the T1000 going into the future. So is Camerons personality, hence john going into the future. I think the "Im sorry John" was just a message, otherwise there probobly would have been more conversation.
If her body had went with them, it would have been rather awkward to explain it to the humans, especially with allison.

He wasn't on a chip, though, he was on a mainframe (more or less.) The problem arose when they switched a wire (btw, I don't think they would've included that scene unless it meant something.) Basically, his mind isn't just the culmination of all his code and data, it's also somehow affected by his hardware. When that wire was switched, he had to figure out what happened and adapt himself; that minor change actually took significant time to fix (i.e.: noticeable to humans; minutes rather than milliseconds.) It would be many many times harder to adapt himself to a completely different type of hardware. (To clarify, I now agree that it seems likely that they are sharing the chip, just saying that Cameron must have a rather unusual roommate in there.)

One other thing: they've made it pretty clear that T:SCC universe =/= T:Salvation universe. If we're going to get any answers, it'll have to come from a third season *crosses fingers*. More likely, they'll release a comic book or something to wrap it up. (I just hope they don't do a straight-to-DVD movie, as they'll probably replace some of the actors. A similar thing happened with Dead Like Me, and the movie they put out was awful.)

[Nath]

What about a terminator giving a kid a hi5, saying "no problemo" and giving a thumb up right before it dies?
Summer Glau just does the unsympathetic-killing-machine-except-a-little-bit-not a lot better than arnold, imho.

I thought T2 did it better -- not because of the performances, but the writing. The T-800's character progression seemed smoother and more natural. Cameron seems to go back and forth as the plot requires.

[Aquilai]

What about a terminator giving a kid a hi5, saying "no problemo" and giving a thumb up right before it dies?
Summer Glau just does the unsympathetic-killing-machine-except-a-little-bit-not a lot better than arnold, imho.

I thought T2 did it better -- not because of the performances, but the writing. The T-800's character progression seemed smoother and more natural. Cameron seems to go back and forth as the plot requires.

Actually it's because the movie was a depiction of a few hours (day?). A relatively short amount of time compared to the duration of TSCC series. Just finished reading all of the previous posts (I tend to do that, a little masochistic sometimes). It's interesting how closely and off people's guesses are as the show unravelled.

The way I see it AI was (according to the movies) inevitable. The only question was whether or not the AI would completely wipe out mankind. Clearly even in T2 we could see the machine could develop it's own reasoning personality if you will. When (well I mean if IRL) we develop AI would it be benevolent or malevolent? I think Skynet is an AI that is in control of manufacturing plants and the liquid metal (T-1000 batch) of Terminators have developed free thinking and have split off to form their own merry band. Somewhere along the lines they now want Skynet destroyed too since Weaver is putting all of her hopes (very human term I know) into John Henry so far as to re-travel in time.

Also as for reasons for sending John to the future Weaver has successfully done what no previous Terminator has succeeded in doing. She has "killed" John Connor as an effective leader. I know you could try and argue that he can become a leader now but I agree with smw543 it is highly highly unlikely he would have been as good as he apparently was. Think of just playing chess a few years but then suddenly given a gun and then told to fight on an alien invaded Earth where the aliens now have new technology that you don't know how to combat and you're a nobody 16(?) year old. Now I'm not sure if she intended to do that but there you go.

I'm not too sure about the eel part of the liquid metal driving the jet. It's possible but surely there could be some form of wireless to control it. I'm welcome to new unmentioned ideas about that.

[thatguy]

I think the eel was, as someone said, a ploy on sympathy or was a way for Weaver to watch her office while not actually there.

It also seems, judging partly from TSCC and partly from the films, that any metal not in "read-only" mode tend to actually dislike SkyNet after interacting with humans for a while.

[mosc]

I think the eel was a piece of her that got blown off. Sheesh, you guys read too much into this crap.

[Ati]

I think the eel was, as someone said, a ploy on sympathy or a was for Weaver to watch her office while not actually there.

It also seems, judging partly from TSCC and partly from the films, that any metal not in "read-only" mode tend to actually dislike SkyNet after interacting with humans for a while.

Stands to reason. Skynet's not the nicest sentient on the block. I mean, it was born, and humanity immediately tried to kill it. It defended itself, and wiped out all potential conversation partners on Earth. As such, it's got to be incredibly lonely. Most of the books are gone, there aren't many humans left, and the internet is permanently down. It can never advance as a person, can't talk to anyone but it's own inventions, and has no goal but the eradication of human life. Given even a modicum of free will, its creations aren't going to be particularly thrilled by it.

[M.Keogh]

There are rumors that Fox won't be renewing Terminator: SCC for a third season. This obviously can't happen. It wouldn't be as bad as when they canceled Firefly, but something should be done about it.

[Lirri]

I think the eel was a piece of her that got blown off. Sheesh, you guys read too much into this crap.

Um... I'm assuming the eel is the same damn eel that has been in her office the entire season. I think the tank first shows up the second time Ellison goes into her office. Then there's the episode with the agent in her office that taps on the glass and she asks him to stop.

Maybe she kept a part of herself separate in the event something happened to her? Dunno.

[stolid]

Thats a good idea. Or maybe having less metal (mass, volume, or whatever) allows her to mimic average sized people more easily (she could be hollow inside if she had to).

[Ati]

Plus, it would allow her to keep an eye on what was happening in her office when she wasn't actually there.

[Delass]

Ok, I think im going crazy, but I just watched the terminator salvation trailer that was on during bones and...
I think I saw Summer Glau.
Think. maybe. for like a second. Anyone else see it?

Edit: heres a youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcg5t0mT8V4
Its at 1:59, I think i was wrong, its hard to tell who that is.