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Re: Epic Songs

Postby 1337geek » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:40 pm UTC

"Bat Out of Hell" fits your criteria perfectly.

Edit: this post is in response to this post, which was originally its own thread but is now merged. Didn't want anybody to get confused.
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Re: Epic Songs

Postby hideki101 » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:04 pm UTC

In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly. Over 17 minutes of music including a wicked drum solo. Listen to it if you haven't. (warning: the singers sound stoned out of their minds; story goes that the song was originally titled in the garden of eden, but the guy was drunk when he was saying it.)
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Re: Epic Songs

Postby Cryopyre » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:46 pm UTC

Dammit, I was going to submit Achilles Last Stand.
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Re: Epic Songs

Postby Aleril » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:52 am UTC

Storm - Godspeed! You Black Emperor.


Actually, most post-rock is pretty epic.
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Aleks » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:26 am UTC

I was under the impression that this thread was for epic music. Not some stuff you've heard and just randomly called epic. (not directing this to anyone in particular) This has probably become the most abused adjective on t3h intarwebs. Epic has come to mean "good" or "amazing" (epic win/epic fail/etc)

But half the stuff mentioned in this thread aren't epic in the sense of something grande. In any case, for those of you have provided valid suggestions, I thank you. (I've been meaning to get Ayreon's The Human Equation for a while now. Now that I have it, I must say that it's really good. Thanks to whoever mentioned that.)

Anywho, the most epic album out there is Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth. The entire album is based on The Silmarillion by Tolkien. Few things are more epic than big choruses, large choirs, huge orchestras and the feeling that the music is taking you to another world. You can listen to one of my favourite songs from that album here (if you're looking to experience the epic chorus skip to 1:18):

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=x_jiBQuFgnA

Also, as a further testament to how epic power metal sounds like, take a look at this fan music video (at one point in this song there is 26 layers of the singer's voice...big and epic sounding...):

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=rmu0LMlS8Us

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Re: Epic Music

Postby Cryopyre » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:32 am UTC

I like literally epic things, but there are rarely any to find. Epic battles in World of Warcraft where the odds are stacked against and you come out victor are pretty good...
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Turambar » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:54 am UTC

How about The Ecstasy of Gold from The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly (if you've ever seen a Metallica show, they usually open it with this).
Someone else mentioned Fortunata, Imperatrix Mundi by Carl Orff. Truly epic.

Also, most of Dream Theater, Pink Floyd, and Iron Maiden.

Someone mentioned Nightfall in Middle Earth, and I heartily second that.

And a lot of power metal/epic metal, since that's the point of it.
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Aleks » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:20 am UTC

Turambar wrote:Also, most of Dream Theater, Pink Floyd, and Iron Maiden.

The only epic thing about Dream Theater is the really awesome lyrics. They're more progressive and technical than "epic". Also, Pink Floyd isn't epic in the sense of having "epic" music. They're really more of a rock kind of thing. As for Iron Maiden...that's a toughie. They for sure have epic lyrical content. But is their music as well? IMHO, they lack a big "epic" sound. But that's just me. The guitars are extremely melodic, catchy, and the choruses are wonderful and bigger than most metal today. You could argue for their epicness, though. In fact, I think they are to a degree.

Don't get me wrong, I like all of these bands a lot. But with the exception of some of Iron Maiden's songs, I don't think anything else is epic in that list.

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Re: Epic Songs

Postby Delmieth » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:19 pm UTC

Aleril wrote:Storm - Godspeed! You Black Emperor.


Actually, most post-rock is pretty epic.


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Re: Epic Music

Postby l33t_sas » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:32 pm UTC

Listening to the new Pyramaze album. The one with Matt Barlow. It's pretty Epic.
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Re: Epic Songs

Postby RedWolf » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:00 pm UTC

Robin S wrote:Seriously, do we not have enough of these threads already?

You realize you linked to this thread, right?

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Re: Epic Songs

Postby cypherspace » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:16 pm UTC

RedWolf wrote:
Robin S wrote:Seriously, do we not have enough of these threads already?

You realize you linked to this thread, right?

You realise his original post was in a thread that was then merged to this one, right?
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Aleks » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:08 pm UTC

l33t_sas wrote:Listening to the new Pyramaze album. The one with Matt Barlow. It's pretty Epic.

Maybe so, but I'm glad Matt is back in Iced Earth :) Have you heard the new single? It's mind blowing.

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Re: Epic Songs

Postby RedWolf » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:40 am UTC

cypherspace wrote:
RedWolf wrote:
Robin S wrote:Seriously, do we not have enough of these threads already?

You realize you linked to this thread, right?

You realise his original post was in a thread that was then merged to this one, right?

No, in fact, I did not realize that!
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Aleril » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:33 am UTC

Now that I think about it, many of Coldplay's big songs are very epic in sound, especially X&Y and Viva La Vida.

Even the cover is quite epic:

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A band is automatically epic if they have paintings of French revolutions on their album covers.
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Vanguard » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:52 pm UTC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpqO5kr1Xxs

Somehow, I found this to be epic.
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Re: Epic Music

Postby RedWolf » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:41 am UTC

I think the original poster was looking for more orchestral/theatrical epic music, like E.S. Posthumus or E Nomine, as originally stated. Its been bothering me that most people are just mentioning really intense rock/metal, and I just now decided to let it out.

...however, the original poster (more likely than not) no longer looks at this thread, so please carry on :-P Thus I feel the need to mention Through the Fire and Flames!

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Re: Epic Music

Postby malec2b » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:15 am UTC

Well, most of the Prog-Rock that I mentioned takes much of it's epic nature from large elements of Classical Music.

Toccatta performed by Emerson, Lake and Palmer and The Devil's Triangle by King Crimson are actually electrified versions of classical pieces.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby Aleks » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:14 pm UTC

RedWolf wrote:I think the original poster was looking for more orchestral/theatrical epic music, like E.S. Posthumus or E Nomine, as originally stated. Its been bothering me that most people are just mentioning really intense rock/metal, and I just now decided to let it out.

It's not really intense. Most of the metal mentioned here (Nightfall in Middle Earth) is packed with orchestration, choirs and the like. It's epic...just a different flavour of epic that you're probably not used to.

RedWolf wrote:...Thus I feel the need to mention Through the Fire and Flames!

No, no, no, no! :evil: Dragonforce is overrated, and they're not epic at all.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:08 am UTC

Dragonforce can be epic. Sadly, I also find them very repetitive. A good band in small doses. (Also, they make me better at Unreal Tournament, so I can't hate them that much.)
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Re: Epic Music

Postby ChocloManx » Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:13 am UTC

Dragonforce is utter garbage, there is nothing epic about two dudes wanking over their guitars.

Also it sounds like a turkey fight.
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:17 am UTC

ChocloManx wrote:Dragonforce is utter garbage, there is nothing epic about two dudes wanking over their guitars.

Also it sounds like a turkey fight.


Just a note that some of us have differing opinions on this stuff. There's nothing wrong with that. There is also nothing to be gained by criticizing another individual's musical tastes. I didn't claim Dragonforce was some amazingly epic crossbreed of Leonidas, William Wallace, and Sam Jackson. Just that I happen to like them from time to time. Nothing to get upset about--and certainly not the kind of thing you can argue about. "I like X." "Oh yeah, well X sucks." See? Not going anywhere and not a road worth going down.
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Postby ChocloManx » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:17 am UTC

Sorry, it's just that Dragonforce pisses me off. No offense intended to your musical taste.
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:22 am UTC

ChocloManx wrote:Sorry, it's just that Dragonforce pisses me off. No offense intended to your musical taste.


None taken--deities know I don't have much respect for it myself--just pointing out that you never know when someone will equate "hey, he hates that band I like" to "Hey, he hates me". (And now this thread is getting off topic.)

Most epic music makes me wish it was possible for me to have a sound track in real life. How awesome would it be if, while doing some calculus problem that's amazingly hard and nailing it, something really triumphant sounded behind you? (Answer: really awesome.)
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Aleks » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:13 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:Most epic music makes me wish it was possible for me to have a sound track in real life. How awesome would it be if, while doing some calculus problem that's amazingly hard and nailing it, something really triumphant sounded behind you? (Answer: really awesome.)

For stuff like that I usually play my victory music. a.k.a You're The Best by Joe Esposito :D Seriously. It's such a good victory song.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby SilentSigil » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:31 am UTC

um. Ok then. I haven't seen anyone mention quite a few of these, but I'd go to war listening to most of 'em. Zombies, demons, raptors, and giant robots beware.

Tartini's 'Devil's Trill Sonata' remix'd by Vanessa Mae.
Coal Chamber' remixes for Devil May Cry 3 (Devil Cry, Devils Never Cry)
Liquid Tension Experiment 'Acid Rain'
The White Stripe 'Seven Nation Army'
The Cruxshadow 'Winter Born' (This Sacrifice)
High and Mighty Color 'Pride-Phantom Pain Norishiro breakmegamix'
Rammstein 'Feuer Frei' :D
KorpiKlaani 'Cottages and Saunas', 'God of Wind'
One Winged Angel, of course. (for anime/games, I agree that Uematsu has made quite a few epics,
Cowboy Bebop's music rocks, and the intro to Samurai Champloo is nice, even if I loathe rap for the most part.)
Linkin Park 'No More Sorrow'
Rise Against 'Prayer of the Refugee'
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Re: Epic Music

Postby 1337geek » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:03 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:Most epic music makes me wish it was possible for me to have a sound track in real life. How awesome would it be if, while doing some calculus problem that's amazingly hard and nailing it, something really triumphant sounded behind you? (Answer: really awesome.)

One time I had my library on shuffle, and it just so happened that as I neared the end of my assignment, "This Land" from the Lion King soundtrack came on. And the very second I finished the last problem, it hit that point in the song where it changes from sad and slow to upbeat and awesome. Those of you who know the song know what I'm talking about. That song may not be epic itself, but that moment sure was!
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Aleril » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:52 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:something really triumphant sounded behind you? (Answer: really awesome.)


*Insert FF Victory music*
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:03 am UTC

Aleril wrote:
Sir_Elderberry wrote:something really triumphant sounded behind you? (Answer: really awesome.)


*Insert FF Victory music*


Surely I'm not the only one who occasionally says "do-do-do-do-do-do doo do-do-do doo" out loud?

(I'm well aware that that makes pretty much no sense, and you can't actually notate music that way. Too bad.)
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Re: Epic Music

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Sir_Elderberry wrote:
Aleril wrote:
Sir_Elderberry wrote:something really triumphant sounded behind you? (Answer: really awesome.)


*Insert FF Victory music*


Surely I'm not the only one who occasionally says "do-do-do-do-do-do doo do-do-do doo" out loud?

(I'm well aware that that makes pretty much no sense, and you can't actually notate music that way. Too bad.)

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Re: Epic Music

Postby Copelovitchski » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:58 pm UTC

My apologies in advance for the length, but here it goes:

1337geek wrote:One time I had my library on shuffle, and it just so happened that as I neared the end of my assignment, "This Land" from the Lion King soundtrack came on. And the very second I finished the last problem, it hit that point in the song where it changes from sad and slow to upbeat and awesome. Those of you who know the song know what I'm talking about. That song may not be epic itself, but that moment sure was!


That is AWEsome!

To add to the growing list of Epic Music:
Requiem Mass in D Minor (K. 626) by Mozart, specifically the:
Dias Irae
-for actual battle scenes
Lacrymosa
-for the scenes afterward involving panoramas of the corpse-and-wounded strewn battlefield, or possibly a montage of some of the more tragic moments (note: this particular movement actually moves me to tears. As a matter of fact, thinking about 'corpse-and-wounded-strewn battlefields' combined with this movement is doing it now...).

the Kyrie, from Mozart's Mass in C Minor (K. 427),(possibly other movements, but i've never heard the other parts)

J.S. Bach's Mass in B Minor (some movementsmoreso than most of them; we played it in our university orchestra, but it was a year ago now and I just remember general epicosity. Which IS a word... It was also REALLY LONG.)

There seems to be something about Masses...

The soundtrack to the Dune miniseries has some pretty epic stuff in it (Summoning the Worm, at least)

Night on Bald Mountain by Modest Mussorgsky. Possibly THE creepiest and epicly demonic piece in existance. With the closing downward run, it seems like the world itself just falls apart and shatters.

[was going to include Debussy's Nocturnes, but they're not actually epic... beautiful, and amazing, but not epic]

Hopefully there were be more to follow.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby von Eisenstein » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:36 pm UTC

To me, "Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2" is a synonym for "epic." =D THE most overplayed piano piece ever...but when it's played by a good performer, it's awesome.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby kanavazk » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:14 am UTC

Vanguard wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpqO5kr1Xxs

Somehow, I found this to be epic.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby poleboy » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:04 am UTC

I always felt Chrono's theme (might be the main theme, I'm not sure) from Chrono Trigger was pretty epic. It builds up slowly with lots of drum and brass instrument sounds and gets pretty hectic towards the end. It's also used in some of the most dramatic parts of the game.
Anyway, I feel that epic music needs to be instrumental because no lyrics conveys emotion better while lyrics deliver ideas or messages better. But that's just my opinion.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby Fryie » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:04 am UTC

Copelovitchski wrote:Requiem Mass in D Minor (K. 626) by Mozart, specifically the:
Dias Irae
-for actual battle scenes
Lacrymosa
-for the scenes afterward involving panoramas of the corpse-and-wounded strewn battlefield, or possibly a montage of some of the more tragic moments (note: this particular movement actually moves me to tears. As a matter of fact, thinking about 'corpse-and-wounded-strewn battlefields' combined with this movement is doing it now...).

The name's Lacrimosa, with i, actually but - yes. I happen to have a recording (from a school choir, they're singing good though) where they only play the first eight bars. I think it's much more powerful - the rest of the Lacrimosa (as well as many other parts of the Requiem) was completed by Süssmayr and to me it just doesn't leave the same impressions on me.

By the way you left out "Tuba Mirum" and, of course, the Kyrie. I love the Kyrie fugue.

Night on Bald Mountain by Modest Mussorgsky. Possibly THE creepiest and epicly demonic piece in existance. With the closing downward run, it seems like the world itself just falls apart and shatters.

It has to be said, though, that it was left unfinished by him and only completed by Rimski-Korsakoff. Musorgski always being considered too rough and unskilled when he was still alive, Rimski-Korsakoff changed the sound of the piece a lot (as he did with Boris Godunov, which however had been completed by Musorgski), especially the Wagnerian ending is quite un-Musorgski-esque. (Oh, but I love Musorgski, the Boris Godunov is priceless!)

Epic is a difficult word; in the literal sense, it bears some connection to the narrated, not dramatic story - for that matter, Kurt Weill's music is probably the most "epic" you could get, since he wrote the music for many of Brecht's plays. However, I guess the term has come to mean more often than not the exact opposite - the dramatic. Often also implying some kind of universal importance, lengthiness, mythological ties, in-the-ancient-days-feeling, etc.
As such, Wagner is the key figure. The late 19th century condensed in one person. Pathos, pathos, pathos. "Hey, this is about the important things in life!" shouts over and over. And somewhat cheesy, sometimes, somewhat pretentious, but always incredibly skillfully made. It's an own world, somehow.
Other than that almost any (especially late) 19th century music will do, because it's the century of idealism, nationalism, grandeur, illusions, etc. The Russians, for example - Glinkas "A Life for the Tsar", though mostly unknown outside of Russia (where it is still considered the "first Russian opera", not completely without reason).

Someone mentioned Stravinki - I'm skeptical of calling Stravinski "epic", in either sense of the term. Perhaps the Sacre, but only because it has that Wagnerian intent to artifically imitate what is the true and ancient nature of one people (the Germans for Wagner, the Russians for Stravinski) - other than that however any comparison between the two shows almost only differences, I guess. The other things Stravinski wrote either have some kind of bizzarre humour, or are completely unemotional and antiromantic, often both, at least as far as I know them. Especially since Stravinski said himself that music is just music and has no other meaning or purpose; well, the complete opposite of Wagner. I love Stravinski, though.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby Compiling.. » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:24 pm UTC

I don't know if someone has said this already, because I was kinda too lazy to read all of the posts, but I got my most favorite epic band ever here.
Sonata Arctica.
They are so so good!
And I recommend 'Ain't Your Fairytale', or 'The Boy Who Wanted To Be A Real Puppet' or 'Misplaced' or.. hell! I recommend the album "Reckoning Night"
They are so epic!
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Re: Epic Music

Postby SirMustapha » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:15 pm UTC

Damn, I've got the entire Ring des Nibelungen on my PC, but I'm still yet to hear it. Come on, it'd take me a full afternoon to get through the whole thing. Not that that would be a problem, but usually I've been in the mood to be laid back and listen to Sigur Rós, Stereolab and Björk.

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Re: Epic Music

Postby bowlerhatman » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:02 am UTC

Explosions in the Sky-All of the Sudden I Miss Everyone, especially It's Natural to Be Afraid. Also parts of The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place.

I've always been moved by the song Sons and Daughters by The Decemberists. I don't know if it's quite epic, though...

All of Sigur Ros-(). Love it, and especially Untitled 4.

And sometimes Rammstein. But rarely. The song Dalai Lama, as well as Reise Reise, specifically.
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Re: Epic Music

Postby GyRo567 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:48 am UTC

Boston's "The Launch" (especially when heard in concert or at volume levels attempting to achieve that effect)

Rachmaninoff's Prelude in C# Minor is fun to bash out on a piano. I always play the first section as quietly as the piano will let me and the last as loud as my fingers can stand. The middle section is just one giant crescendo. It's incredibly difficult to play it as fast as he does, but I almost managed to a few times without botching it too badly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wddtne7KSs
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Re: Epic Music

Postby Force42 » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:11 am UTC

Andrew Lloyd Weber's music. Particularly Jesus Christ Superstar and The Phantom of the Opera. Cats was pretty cool, too; I mean, they're anthropomorphic singing cats, but they're awesome.


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