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iPod vs Zune?

Postby AngelKing4t7 » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:55 pm UTC

So my iPod headphone jack got messed up today, and now it will only play out of one side. So unless there's a way to make the iPod play in mono, I'm gonna have to get a new music player.

I'm considering getting a Zune, but I don't know much about em. I only know one person who has one, but he seems pretty satisfied with it.

So, do any of you know anything about Zunes? What makes them different than iPods?

I'm not looking for you to just say "get an iPod, they're better" or "screw iPods, Zune is better." I already got enough of that trying to find information via google. If you support one product over the other, give a REASON.

But even if you don't have a preference, just any information comparing the two would be helpful.


The main question I have is, is it easy to put movies on a Zune and play them through an Xbox 360? Cause that would be a deal breaker/maker for me.

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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby liltimmy » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:58 pm UTC

I got a Zune, which is pretty hard to get in the UK.
I personally like it because it feels all nice and solid. Damn near unbreakable.
I like the gigantic screen as well, which is good for pictures and movies.
Oh, and I got it because I dislike apple with a passion. Steve jobs is a smug twat and their adverts are so arrogant and pretentious it makes me want to vomit.

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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Amnesiasoft » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:06 pm UTC

If it's of any interest to you, there is the XNA Framework available for the Zune. The same can't be said of the iPod.

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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Zachh » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:49 pm UTC

I've been a loyal Zune user since generation one and this is a debate I have often with my friends and family and I have a few reasons why Zune does it for me.

1) Solid Hardware

My Zune120 is a beast. Nice big scratch resistant screen and a dark body made out of a kind of think polyurathaine (I would assume) the dam things can take a fall or two without shattering into a millions pieces. Downside is screen and body get really smudgey and the obvious thickness may be a turn off for most people.

2) More Features

Before I get flammed to high heaven; let me just say that I know that iPod touch (phone) have tons more features than a Zune what with the app store and things of that nature. But I'm raiting the Zune against anything by Apple thats not the iPod touch (phone) i.e their "classic line" of MP3 players. Raido, Videos on a bigger screen,changeable wallpapers and the added feature of sending songs to your friends who have a zune while also being able to browse and download from the Zune Marketplace via Wi-Fi are all nice features that (for me atleast) tips the scales in favor of a Zune over Ipod classic.


3) Nice Firmware

The interface on a Zune is a very nice additive. Easy to nagivate menus, the squircle which is the thumb pad that allows for fast browseing if you have a large music libary like myself.


Now to try and be as least bias as possible here are some downsides of the Zune.


1) The Software

I despise everything that is the Zune Software, it's bloatware to an unbelievable extreme.

2) Lack of Accesories

Unless your looking for a case or a FM transmitter don't expect much in the way of perhipals. I have a radio dock that made by Belkin but it was 90$..on Amazon.


Also something that goes to mention is the Zune Pass. Before you guys start with the "LOL pay for music" I just want state the the Zune pass has opened me up to an wide array of new music. Why? because I don't have to troll bias blogs for hours on end to find some new music, I can download on a whim and not have to worry about a thing and for me I like that. 14$ monthly..I can deal with that, plus I think it's karma becuase it makes up for all the movies I download.

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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby 1337geek » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:46 am UTC

This is probably a stupid question, but are you completely sure it was the device and not the earphones? I've had to get rid of several pairs of earphones and headphones because I blew out one side. I'm sure you're smart enough to have already thought of this, but I don't want you to waste money on something that's easily fixable. :D
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby el_loco_avs » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:25 pm UTC

Zune pass makes me drool.


How's the selection of music? Do they have... say... Boris?
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Zachh » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:03 pm UTC

el_loco_avs wrote:Zune pass makes me drool.


How's the selection of music? Do they have... say... Boris?



Yes, I Zune marketplace is actually has a nice selection of music all things considered.

When I Searched "Boris" I got 91 results so take your pick.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Forum Viking » Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:42 am UTC

The main question I have is, is it easy to put movies on a Zune and play them through an Xbox 360? Cause that would be a deal breaker/maker for me
Yes, if you have a ripper already or want to buy your movies from Zune. Easy enough to play, just plug in the USB to the xbox and a new tab opens for it, or use your wireless network if that's set up.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Spacemilk » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:07 pm UTC

I have a Zune and while I take a lot of heat from my Apple friends, I lurv it. Here is why I bought a Zune and the things I found out afterward that make me lurv it more:

1) Large screen AND large storage capacity. I initially bought the Zune to watch movies while on business trips and such things. I haven't done that yet, instead I've used it for listening to music while at work. If I had wanted to get an Apple product, it would've been the Touch, but at 32gb it just didn't have the space for me. I got the 120gb Zune and I am very happy with it. (it was maybe $20 more than the 80gb? TOTALLY worth it)

2) Sturdy. I am a dropper - if I have a small piece of electronic equipment it will get dropped. I buy for durability. So while the Zune may feel a bit heavier and is a little thicker, it is 100% worth it.

3) Zune Pass. Someone mentioned this above, but I LOVE the zune pass. I will literally download everything from an artist that I've never heard before just because I can, and then I listen to them and tend to love them. This ties in with (1) because I have so much space, I can do this. I shot past 32gb about a month after buying my Zune, so the Touch never would have worked. Also, on the Zune music center, you can find an artist that you like and then look at the "related artists" category, which has worked out really well for me. However the music center can be a bit slow at times, which drives me batty. But it's worth it.

4) Nice earphones. This is a minor one, but all my friends with iPods talk about how terrible the headphones are that come with it. The Zune comes with a really nice pair, includes 3 bud covers (pink, orange, and black :) pink for me right now) and the sound quality is pretty darn good.

Note: My Zune was my first mp3 player. I'm telling you what I like about the Zune, but I haven't had any personal experience with the iPod so I can't tell you specifically what's better about the Zune, except for what I know based on what friends have said. And like Zachh said, there isn't much in the way of peripherals.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Justice » Thu May 07, 2009 10:11 pm UTC

Everyone I know owns an iPod, so thats what I have.
But reading everyone's replies, I'm beginning to see that Zune might be better.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Mous » Fri May 08, 2009 2:03 am UTC

I got a Zune, after iTunes fucked up my computer and deleted 98% of my music. :x
I've never had an iPod though, so I can't really offer any advice. My zune is nice, it's pretty. It plays music. That's all I really care about.

How, iPod touches are also very pretty. And the shuffle thing where you shake it and it changes the song is neat.

So.. yeah... I dunno.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Chobbes » Thu May 14, 2009 6:34 pm UTC

Don't know much about Zune, but all my iPods have died on me within a two year period. Something always goes wrong before the two year mark, whether it's the screen, audio jack, or HD. I've gone through 5 iPods before finally giving up, I ripped my last iPod apart and spit on its grave.

I've since switched to a Cowon D2 and I couldn't be happier. It's a bit more complicated to work (things like tags and album art are a bit more complicated) but I'm sure geeks like xkcd members can manage.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Spacemilk » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:24 pm UTC

I'm returning here to say: Something went wrong with my Zune and I don't know what happened or how to fix it. Basically, it started having a lot of trouble playing back music, especially when I'd do a random shuffle - it was lagging extremely badly, sometimes it refused to play certain songs - and the problem kept getting worse and worse. So I finally wiped it clean and attempted to reinstall, only to find that it now refuses to sync. So I have a completely worthless brick now. The Internet has offered all sorts of weird fixes, none of which have worked so far. I've had it for less than a year.

I really really don't want to switch to an iPod but I might have to. I loved my Zune, when it worked. :(
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby scrt_rbt_agnt » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:38 pm UTC

man, don't you people have warantees on your electronics?
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Ivora » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:43 am UTC

Ipod. Cause I like to dance around in black with colorful backgrounds. :D

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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby kingofdreams » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:34 pm UTC

the zune seems to be damageable (that a word?) but un-fucken-breakable, I fractured the screen in the first three days :( , then bought a case and have had all sorts of crap happen to it, I love it, install software on random persons I just mets computer and sinc everything everwhere, I have accumulated so much amateur porno from the people on the dorm floor its embarassing, my mems practically full (I have the 120) and I keep finding stuff I didn't know I have (and enough dirt to bury anyone I know who enters politics).
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby scrt_rbt_agnt » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:37 pm UTC

oh yeah, and i have an ipod because if it breaks, apple will fix it for much cheaper than a new one costs.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Ralith The Third » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:28 am UTC

I prefer iPods. I like Apple, and they're solid. The only problem I have with mine is losing it :P. And you can put your own music on it, doesn't have to be from iPod store, dunno if Zune's has to be.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby thejohnli » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:51 pm UTC

I prefer iPods over Zunes. First of all, it seems like iPods are more durable than Zunes. My friend dropped his Zune and it shattered completely, and I have dropped my iPod who-knows-how-many-times and it works fine. (Just a couple of scratches). On the other hand, my iPod's battery life drained so quickly, going from 14 hours to about 2 hours. And iPods are a little more expensive. So it's pretty much up to personal preference.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Midnight » Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:13 pm UTC

Chobbes wrote:Don't know much about Zune, but all my iPods have died on me within a two year period. Something always goes wrong before the two year mark, whether it's the screen, audio jack, or HD.


Man, my ipod stopped turning on after a year, and then I went to the apple store, they couldn't turn it on, and then they handed me a new one. Just like that. Had that'un for two or so years now, no issues.

zunes seem nice, but i worry that they don't have that kind of awesome insurance that ipods do (not that the apple warranty is lifetime or anything, but I know someone that very obviously stepped on her ipod with a stiletto heel and they still handed her a new one).
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Blinke » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:39 pm UTC

I've had my iPod for over three years now and it's still in decent condition. Sure, it locks up sometimes and will occasionally raise the volume all by itself but the majority of the time it works flawlessly. The earphones are starting to sound crap though, which I guess is expected after three years.

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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby derick » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:31 pm UTC

As a rare Zune owner, here are some pros and cons for you to consider.

Pros:
- I treat my electronics like crap, have had to get my laptop keyboard replaced several times, broken several cell phones, etc. My Zune has never given me a problem.

- Most of my friends with iPods complain about them mysteriously breaking and getting bad technical support.

- When I bought my Zune last summer, it was slightly cheaper than an iPod of the same capacity (80g) despite having a much bigger screen and roughly the same size and weight. I assume that their relative prices for the same capacity is the same where you are as they were a year ago in Canada.

- Zune screens are bigger. I sometimes watch video on my Zune and seriously have no clue how anyone can on an iPod.

- The Zune interface is twodimensional, not one dimensioal (i.e. you move your thumb sideways to go through artists while moving it vertically to go through albums, then when you pick an album, you go through songs vertically and can switch through albums horizontally.) It makes it a lot faster to go back and forth, in my view, especially when you can't decide. (Everything good about the iPod interface: the speed of loading a song, etc. is there).

- The headphones it comes with are the best earbud headphones I have ever had by far. Earbud headphones tend to eliminate a lot of the bass. These didn't. They seriously sounded as good as 50 dollar home/stuido headphones. Which is probably why they cost 40 dollars (alone), but the Zune including the awesome headphoens is still slightly cheaper than an iPod with its dollar store headphones.

- More customizable. You can change your background, for instance.

- You can show that you're not a psuedo-counterculture hipster. But you run the risk of trying to be a "metahipster" which is really just as shallow. Countercounterculture.

Cons:

- It won't be compatible with all the iPod accesories all your friends surely have. There are good Zune accesories, but they're harded to find, and all your friends with iPods won't be able to use them.

- Zune marketplace doesn't have as many songs as iTunes and isn't available in Canada and many non-American places where iTunes is available. The first I wouldn't worry too much about seeing as I'm sure they both have pretty much everything (except maybe The Beatles. Did other sites get them too or just iTunes?), but if you're planning to use a downloading service, make sure the company you pick has it in your area.This isn't much or a problem for me as I buy CDs and rip them, but it was dissapointing to find I wouldn't be able to download movies because I'm Canadian (I've now taken to ripping DVDs). I found it very funny when I bought the special edition of Juno (stfu I'm not gay) which came with a "digital version," which was compatible only with iPods, and had to rip the normal part of the DVD despite its security to get it on my Zune.

- The headphones aren't as immortal as the Zune itself. From always hastily twisting them around the Zune and shoving it into my pockets and letting them get stretched and tangled and such the (I don't know what material it was but it was an odd, cloth-like material) covering of the cords split and eventually the cords got botched beyond use. I'm planning to buy them again and be more careful (the dollar store headphones I grabbed *do not* compare), which means I'm paying full price, but I think this was my fault. If you get a Zune, be careful with the awesome headphones.

- I didn't notice (from having used friend's iPods before) myself, but a friend of mine told me his iPod was lighter and thinner. When I compared, this was cleary the case, but I find they're both light and thin enough to be beyond irritation of any kind; I'm pretty conscious of these things and it's telling that despite having used an iPod several times before I didn't notice. If you often have a lot of crap in your pocket and you're edging the comforatble weight threshhold which the Zune may put you past, beware! The iPod was slightly wider if I recall.

- Hipsters and 14 yearold girls wont think youre as cool.

I would definitely suggest most people to take a Zune over an iPod, unless your cell phone subscription is up and you'd rather have a music player phone, seeing as there is no Zune mp3phone. But you probably already knew that. Honestly, they're pretty much the same, but if I lost my Zune and had to buy a new mp3 player, I'd go with the Zune for the much much better headphones alone. All other issues are pretty much ephemeral but this will actually make the music sound better (or save you the 40 dollars if you were intent on getting good earbuds).

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Chobbes wrote:Don't know much about Zune, but all my iPods have died on me within a two year period. Something always goes wrong before the two year mark, whether it's the screen, audio jack, or HD.


Man, my ipod stopped turning on after a year, and then I went to the apple store, they couldn't turn it on, and then they handed me a new one. Just like that. Had that'un for two or so years now, no issues.

zunes seem nice, but i worry that they don't have that kind of awesome insurance that ipods do (not that the apple warranty is lifetime or anything, but I know someone that very obviously stepped on her ipod with a stiletto heel and they still handed her a new one).


Where the hell do you get your Apple service? My exgirlfriend's iPod broke once and she went to the Apple Store in downtown Toronto, where Apple had sent her for maitenence, four or five times (some of her songs just didnt appear on it no matter what she did; they insisted it was a software problem) and each time they sent her back with "one more thing that would definitely work" to do that didn't work.

@personwhosaidtheirfriendbroketheirZune: WTF did your friend do to it? Throw it into a god damn black hole? If I haven't broken my Zune after having it for a year, I don't want to go within 10 feet of zomeone who has broken one. I've slept with mine in my pocket, had it fall out of my pocket and onto concrete while I was jogging, using a tshirt gun to shoot it into a burning building on the other side of a lake of poison.

I don't know what Microsoft's customer service is like as I've never had to use it. That one time there was a software problem for all of the Zunes of a certain capacity, they seemed to have fixed it quickly.

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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Midnight » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:44 am UTC

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Man, my ipod stopped turning on after a year, and then I went to the apple store, they couldn't turn it on, and then they handed me a new one. Just like that. Had that'un for two or so years now, no issues.


Where the hell do you get your Apple service? My exgirlfriend's iPod broke once and she went to the Apple Store in downtown Toronto, where Apple had sent her for maitenence, four or five times (some of her songs just didnt appear on it no matter what she did; they insisted it was a software problem) and each time they sent her back with "one more thing that would definitely work" to do that didn't work.

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Um, the concord store in the bay area in california in the youknighted states. Mine was still under warranty, I suppose.

and remember, I was getting a new one, cause it wouldn't turn on--not sending it in for a software fix. and to my knowledge, that sort of thing IS a software problem.
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Re: iPod vs Zune?

Postby Phrozt » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:56 pm UTC

If you guys haven't seen it yet, you might want to take a look at www.anythingbutipod.com

Great info on ipod alternatives, a really nice comparison app, and I really like how much effort they put into their reviews.

For people looking for info on headphones (well, unless you have an ipod) try www.head-fi.org These people are ridiculously into headgear from earphones to can (big headphones). Pretty nice community too... ask a stupid question and they don't go all elitist on you.


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