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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Geekthras » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:46 am UTC

Dr. Canadian Ninja wrote:blahblahblah

I like the Dune series. Really, I do. Even when Herbert's son took over, I could still get into it. However. God-Emperor of Dune took me six months. I started using it as a sleeping aid during school. I could not get through that book. As Picard would say, he just kept talking in one long increidbly unbroken sentence, moving from topic to topic so that no one had the chance to interrupt. Then I finally finished and blazed through the other two books at the time in a matter of weeks.

blahblahblah

Oh my god, I loved the first one. Someone at summer camp had the next three with them.
I liked the second one
The third was ok.
So this summer camp was three weeks long, and I read those two in about two weeks. I wasn't worried, but then I picked up God-Emperor and I just couldn't get interested enough to read more than the first couple of pages. Blech.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby poleboy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:26 am UTC

There seems to be a lot of Gatsby hate, I hope it's mostly because it's force-fed in schools. I personally think it's hilarious. It reminded me of American Psycho, just without the.. y'know.. psycho bits (which is not what makes American Psycho cool anyway).

Animal Farm annoyed me a bit, mostly because the combination of talking animals and restating the same point over and over again to make sure everyone gets it made me feel like I was reading a children's book. Maybe I missed some clever satire somewhere, but it seems to me like it could have been a lot shorter.

To Kill A Mockingbird... it's not such a horrible book, but I really don't think it has much relevance to a non-American. It feels to me like someone read Mark Twain and thought "Hey, I can do that! But if I include any hint of satire, people may think I'm making fun of black people. Better to be serious and boring all the way through."

The two first Harry Potter books are decent fantasy for children. Then she realized she would rather please her now-whiny-teen fanbase with HP-fanfic spinoffs than write books.

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Postby Bassoon » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:35 am UTC

Amicitia wrote:I think David Copperfield is underrated. I liked it better than Great Expectations, for sure.


About fucking time. I think Pip was a boring, uninspired little troglodyte. The whole book was essentially "what if a poor person were to be trained to be rich?" I hate that stupid nickname of "Handel." Just S. T. F. U. He has a name! He has a nickname! Is it really appropriate to give him another nickname?! And that whole...oh, what was her name...That young girl Pip likes who always dumps him. And he KEEPS GOING BACK. And the end! Ugh! Worst ending EVER! And WTF was the plot? It just sounded like some fun little remembrances about some guy named Pip who was conveniently an orphan. But I did feel bad for his sister. Miss Havisham rocks!

Anyway, some other crappy books...Infoquake? Anyone? I couldn't get off the first chapter. It's just...ugh. You're throwing into the story and all you get is that the main character is some typical businessman.

Also hated Lord of the Flies. HATE. HATE. HATE. I read it, and I barely recall any of it. It kinda portrays human nature, but not really. I don't think a group of children would be prone to kill another child for the lulz. The Giver: meh. It's an okay book, but very predicable and not very enforcing. It has a message, but it's lost in all the stupid symbolism. Also, the fact that the ending was so ambiguous annoys the FUCK out of me! Seriously! Tie up your damn book! You wrote this plot. I've been reading it. The LEAST YOU CAN DO IS END IT. Then she goes and makes it ambiguous! What in the fuck?! Finish it!

Also, read closer. zOMFG! My Brother Sam Is Dead?! This proves that just because you research doesn't mean it's a good book. Also, it had major plot holes. I could ride a bus through the hole that had Sam *spoiler* being killed for stealing cattle. *spoiler* Oh, so they didn't have a justice system back in the 1700s? You did research. You KNOW that people weren't doing the eye-for-an-eye shit then. Seriously! I don't give a fuck that your brother Sam is dead, either. I lol'd when the main character's father was randomly dead, too. Lol! So random, so LOL! Seriously. The plot holes in them are so deep that it needs railings around it to prevent people from being sucked into the pit of fail! Grah!

Half the reason people end up hating literature is because their high school lit teachers made them analyze the shit out of everything. I second the motion that a forest can be a fucking forest. Sex can be sex. Not everything has a hidden meaning meant to help you understand the book. In fact, I'd like to write a book that, when analyzed, points you to the completely wrong conclusions so that normal people can point and laugh at you when you state these outlandish claims! Argh!

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby ishikiri » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:02 am UTC

poleboy wrote:There seems to be a lot of Gatsby hate, I hope it's mostly because it's force-fed in schools. I personally think it's hilarious. It reminded me of American Psycho, just without the.. y'know.. psycho bits (which is not what makes American Psycho cool anyway).

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You can add me to the LOTR hate pile. I have the same problem with it that I have the with Star Wars: George Lucas comes up with a brilliant majestic concept but when he directs it himself it all falls to pot, but when he gives it to Steven Spielberg or another director it is brilliant.

Tolkein comes up with the brilliant concept and languages etc but someone else should have written the Story. if I can skip a hundred pages in a book and not even realise I've missed anything then somethings going wrong.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Asmodieus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:43 pm UTC

I didnt even finish Moby Dick... it was just so boring, i didnt understand half of the things that the people were saying. I usually read the unabridged version but damn!

Anyone else like Anna Karenina?
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby clintonius » Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:20 pm UTC

Asmodieus wrote:I didnt even finish Moby Dick... it was just so boring, i didnt understand half of the things that the people were saying. I usually read the unabridged version but damn!

Anyone else like Anna Karenina?

IMO, if you're reading an abridged version of Moby Dick, you're not reading Moby Dick. You're missing out on a whole shit ton of symbolism and beautiful language, and THAT -- not the plot -- is what made the book so great.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Eruantale » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:08 am UTC

ishikiri wrote:You can add me to the LOTR hate pile. I have the same problem with it that I have the with Star Wars: George Lucas comes up with a brilliant majestic concept but when he directs it himself it all falls to pot, but when he gives it to Steven Spielberg or another director it is brilliant.

Tolkein comes up with the brilliant concept and languages etc but someone else should have written the Story. if I can skip a hundred pages in a book and not even realise I've missed anything then somethings going wrong.


^ Per chance you are one with Tolkien and simply don't have to read it in it's entirety?
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby TomatoBlue » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:59 am UTC

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Oh, and, "Something Wicked This Way Comes". :( I liked it! I really did. But the entire time I was reading it, all I could think about was the unintentional homoeroticism. And I'm pretty sure that's why I liked it. Come on, people - you've got an innocent young blond, and a dark-haired brunet. One is shy and naive, the other is mischievous and Loki-esque. They sneak into each other's bedrooms at night. Innocent blond boy is trusting, to the point of dangerousness, in brunet boy. Brunet boy is likewise protective of shy, virginal blond. There's plenty of hugging and affectionate banter. In the end, brunet compromises his dreams for frantic "DON'T LEAVE ME" blond. Tearful reunion. They wake up in each other's arms. It's like the stereotypical plot of a yaoi manga! Except there's no nookie! WHY IS THERE NO NOOKIE.

... I'm pretty sure that that makes me a terrible person. :D Oops.



Have you ever read A Separate Peace? Just make the brunette bitchier and rape the ending with "...AND NOW WE'RE IN A WAR," and you've got the same book.


I've seen it once before in this thread, but... Wuthering Heights. This book made me want to break things with every page I fought through. I long for someone to ask me the definition of "Thesaurus Rape" so I can beat them with this waste of paper. (Well, this and Twilight, but that's just too easy to make fun of.)

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby DocFaustus » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:40 am UTC

Thomas Landon is the WORST writer I have every read. Do not buy ANYTHING from him.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Kendo_Bunny » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:09 pm UTC

See, I hated Gatsby. So I gave a few other Fitzgerald novels a try, and found out he only knew how to write one plot:

'There are a bunch of stuffy rich people leading unfulfilling lives, though everything looks good on the outside. An innocent appears in their midsts. They disembowel the innocent, then some of them feel guilty and don't change, some of them feel vindicated and don't change, and some of them don't notice anything happened and don't change. They then all wait for the next innocent.'

I don't like books where none of the characters are capable of personal growth (also why I hated Catcher in the Rye. I'm okay if they choose not to grow, but the whole mindless mediocrity annoys me. Be good, be bad, be something. I see enough people in reality land going about their lives blindfolded to the point of mummified, and I have no desire to read about it. Because you know what? Even if the book is written to make a point to the brainless sheeple and shock them out of lethargy, it won't work, because they don't get it. The only point of those books is preaching to the choir, because everyone whose eyes are open will be nodding along and going 'That's so true'. But nothing will ever come of it, expect for maybe more books about how most people are brain-dead sheep who will worship whatever they're told.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby baker's kilobyte » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:08 pm UTC

Kendo_Bunny wrote:See, I hated Gatsby. So I gave a few other Fitzgerald novels a try, and found out he only knew how to write one plot:

'There are a bunch of stuffy rich people leading unfulfilling lives, though everything looks good on the outside. An innocent appears in their midsts. They disembowel the innocent, then some of them feel guilty and don't change, some of them feel vindicated and don't change, and some of them don't notice anything happened and don't change. They then all wait for the next innocent.'


Just because I'm curious... who do you consider to be the "innocent" in Gatsby? I haven't read any of his other novels, but I can say that the generic plot above doesn't extend to all of his other works. Filthy rich, yes. Unfulfilling lives, yes. But that's where the similarities end. (Again, I'm talking about his short stories, as I haven't read the novels, other than Gatsby.)

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby justaman » Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:11 am UTC

Stephen King's "Dark Tower" series, the first couple of books are OK, then they degenerate into unmitigated shite. Crappy ending too.

I would also like to break the neck of every English teacher who tries to wring symbolism out of everything and then marks you down for not having the same interpretation as them (which is the one they got out of the teacher's guide).
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby MShades » Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:41 am UTC

Let's see.... I haven't read anything by Hemingway that convinces me that he's a good writer. I thought Farewell to Arms would have been a great book if someone else had written it.

On the other end of the spectrum, I thought that Lord of the Rings, while not exactly overrated, given its impact on modern fantasy, was in dire need of editing. Much like the Harry Potter books, the author became untouchable because of his/her fame, and their every word became gold. So you get giant, brick-like novels that could be pared down to a leaner more cleanly-told story.

I find a lot of classic literature unreadable - the Austens and the Brontes and the like. Especially the Russians. Gods save me from Russian literature. The only reason I'm glad I was forced to read it in high school and college is that I can now understand most of the jokes from Woody Allen's Love and Death.

So far only one book has actually enraged me - The Bad Beginning, of the A Series of Unfortunate Events books. Snicket's device of stopping in the middle of a sentence to define a word made me livid. If you're assuming that your audience is mature enough to handle parental death, murder, pederasty and incest, they're damn well mature enough to be able to look up words they don't know.

I also have a class of "too late" books - works I should have read when I was much younger. The Elric books come to mind, as do LeGuin's Earthsea and a lot of Heinlein, Asimov and Clarke.

My best for last, and the one I know will get me smacked: Neal Stephenson. He's fun to read, but so far everything I've read of his seems to follow the same pattern - he creates a really cool technological culture, full of awesome ideas and clever concepts that make me think, "Wow, this guy is seriously bright." Then he seems to remember that he needs to end the story, and somewhere around the last third of the book the whole thing takes a left turn and crashes to a halt in a poorly-paced "climax" that only loosely connects to the sheer awesomeness that he put in the beginning of the book. It's disappointing....
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Marbas » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:45 am UTC

I think House of Leaves is pretty overrated.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby william » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:27 pm UTC

Hamlet's problem is that Scar caused the stampede that killed his father.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby baker's kilobyte » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:26 pm UTC

MShades wrote:Let's see.... I haven't read anything by Hemingway that convinces me that he's a good writer. I thought Farewell to Arms would have been a great book if someone else had written it.


I don't like Hemmingway much either. I find that his style is too pared down, which is funny, since we seem to like complaining about authors who are too verbose (see also the Short/Long thread). x)

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MShades wrote:I also have a class of "too late" books - works I should have read when I was much younger. The Elric books come to mind, as do LeGuin's Earthsea and a lot of Heinlein, Asimov and Clarke.


I read A Wizard of Earthsea in seventh grade, and don't recall much of the plot apart from a few scenes that have stuck in my head, but I do remember how much I loved it. I recently gave a copy to my brother (who's just finished middle school) in hopes that he might do something more with his life than sit on his computer all day, playing video games. He finished it in about a day, and kept telling me how awesome it was and how he couldn't wait to read the rest... and six months later, he still hasn't picked up Tombs of Atuan, or tried to find it. Like, as soon as he finished, he jumped straight back on his computer, as if it had had no effect at all. Life makes me sad sometimes. :cry:

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby singularapathy » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:00 pm UTC

Fuck James Joyce.

That is all.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby ParanoidAndroid » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:20 am UTC

william wrote:Hamlet's problem is that Scar caused the stampede that killed his father.


I lol'ed. Awesome.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Archer

Anything written by this twerp.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby baker's kilobyte » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:31 pm UTC

Wikipedia article wrote:His books require extensive editing by others to make them readable.


...And you say you don't like this guy's writing? :mrgreen:

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby protocoach » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:35 pm UTC

John Ringo writes really, really terrible books. Political philosophy for five year olds mixed in with violence and pornography does not a masterpiece make.
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Postby Kendra » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:31 am UTC

Bakemaster wrote:Ogden Nash agrees.


This was posted quite a while ago, but thanks...I read that poem a couple of years ago, and loved it. I've been trying to find it ever since, but couldn't remember enough of it to do so.




As for books I despised so much I couldn't even finish them (which is saying something, because even if I think a book is awful I have a strange compulsion to finish it):

Invisible Man by Ralph Waldo Ellison. I have no words to describe the feelings it gave me, except to say I had a test on this book in my AP English class senior year of high school, and I was willing to risk failing it just so I didn't have to read any more. (I got an A on it actually, the test was on a part I'd read, and I BS-ed my way through what I didn't know.)

Forrest Gump by Winston Groom. The writing style was a form that personally irritates me though (think the beginning of Flowers for Algernon--though I actually liked that book), so I might be biased.


I'm not fond of Hemingway either, though I have finished five of his books (For Whom The Bell Tolls, The Sun Also Rises, The Old Man and the Sea, To Have and Have Not, A Farewell to Arms). They weren't unbearable (well, except for The Old Man and the Sea. I mean, come on), but not exactly enjoyable either.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby clintonius » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:42 am UTC

Anybody ever tried to read Hannibal (the sequel to Silence of the Lambs) by Thomas Harris? I got through slightly more than a chapter. Motherfucker used the present tense in every. single. sentence.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby cathrl » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:14 pm UTC

clintonius wrote:Anybody ever tried to read Hannibal (the sequel to Silence of the Lambs) by Thomas Harris? I got through slightly more than a chapter. Motherfucker used the present tense in every. single. sentence.


I think I must be missing something here...

The tense you use should be consistent. If he uses present tense at all then it should be in every single sentence. Switching backwards and forwards is a really dire technical error.

Not much of one for anything written in the present tense myself. I find it very stylised, and while stylised is interesting for short stories, it tends to collide with my preference for long ones. Novel length present tense? No thanks.

And now I'll add Twilight. Great concept, dreadful execution. (And no, I don't have it in for modern teen fiction - I loved Uglies.)

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Amberfire » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:56 pm UTC

Marbas wrote:I think House of Leaves is pretty overrated.

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Everyone I knew who had read House of Leaves told me it was the most amazing thing ever, terribly frightening, emotional, fascinating, etc etc etc. So I tried reading it and failed miserably.

My pride usually forces me through a book (though Catcher in the Rye made me physically sick very often through the whole painful procedure of reading it) but I found House of Leaves so boring and slow-moving and uninspiring that I just stopped. So a house gets bigger except only on the inside. So what. It just didn't capture my interest at all.

I tried reading about five chapters of Twilight last night, but I stopped when I found out
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that the heroine faints at the sight of blood. She's female, dear god, she sees blood every damn month. What the hell.
THIS from a book about a vampire romance. I am entirely unimpressed. I refuse to read more. I don't even care that Edward [the vampire] sparkles or something weird. And four chapters in I was already sick of his 'two-perfect' face. I'm not even published and I'm already over my too-perfect romantic gary-stus. I was over that years ago. Besides, perfect and beautiful are entirely subjective.

Harry Potter is just too insignificant in content to deserve its hype. I think people like Diana Wynne Jones do the same sort of things with better depth and better character. It's not even as mature or 'dark' as some YA fiction is. I don't understand why, though there's so much GOOD fantasy YA fiction, it's this vapid, unoriginal tripe that becomes popular; HP, Twilight, Eragon - which, I admit, I've never read, but never been inspired to either.

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Postby Narsil » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:36 pm UTC

Bassoon wrote:
Amicitia wrote:In fact, I'd like to write a book that, when analyzed, points you to the completely wrong conclusions so that normal people can point and laugh at you when you state these outlandish claims! Argh!

Someone's already done that. It's called House of Leaves.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Deep Thought » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:41 am UTC

Artemis Fowl and the Time Paradox. I loved the series when I was only a bit younger, and so I was looking forward to this one, especially since there were a few loose ends that Colfer left undone at the end of the last one.

The title should be enough to tell you how horribly clichéd the whole box is. First off, Artemis has now officially lost all of his unique personality (not to mention quite a bit of his cunning. There are few clever plans formulated by the former criminal mastermind) and become a bland, typical, but ever so heroic protagonist. Woo. And, true to the title, the plot is centered around a time paradox, which has certainly never been done before.

Whole plot lines from the last book are completely ignored. They don't come up once. It's as if Eion Colfer took an old idea of his and spontaneously decided to write it out.

Urgh. I'm willing to chalk up a bit of my disgust up to the fact that I have simply outgrown the series. Not to mention the fact that fond memories of the books had me strongly anticipating this one's release. But that can only do so much, and the other books weren't nearly as bad.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby AntonGarou » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:05 pm UTC

The Satanic Verses by Rushdie are highly overrated.A tenth-rate piece of literature garbage that doesn't seem to have point, engaging characters or interesting plot.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby baker's kilobyte » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:02 pm UTC

Deep Thought wrote:Artemis Fowl and the Time Paradox. I loved the series when I was only a bit younger, and so I was looking forward to this one, especially since there were a few loose ends that Colfer left undone at the end of the last one.

The title should be enough to tell you how horribly clichéd the whole box is. First off, Artemis has now officially lost all of his unique personality (not to mention quite a bit of his cunning. There are few clever plans formulated by the former criminal mastermind) and become a bland, typical, but ever so heroic protagonist. Woo. And, true to the title, the plot is centered around a time paradox, which has certainly never been done before.

Whole plot lines from the last book are completely ignored. They don't come up once. It's as if Eion Colfer took an old idea of his and spontaneously decided to write it out.

Urgh. I'm willing to chalk up a bit of my disgust up to the fact that I have simply outgrown the series. Not to mention the fact that fond memories of the books had me strongly anticipating this one's release. But that can only do so much, and the other books weren't nearly as bad.


He should have just stopped at Eternity Code.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Decker » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:12 pm UTC

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Deep Thought wrote:Artemis Fowl and the Time Paradox. I loved the series when I was only a bit younger, and so I was looking forward to this one, especially since there were a few loose ends that Colfer left undone at the end of the last one.

The title should be enough to tell you how horribly clichéd the whole box is. First off, Artemis has now officially lost all of his unique personality (not to mention quite a bit of his cunning. There are few clever plans formulated by the former criminal mastermind) and become a bland, typical, but ever so heroic protagonist. Woo. And, true to the title, the plot is centered around a time paradox, which has certainly never been done before.

Whole plot lines from the last book are completely ignored. They don't come up once. It's as if Eion Colfer took an old idea of his and spontaneously decided to write it out.

Urgh. I'm willing to chalk up a bit of my disgust up to the fact that I have simply outgrown the series. Not to mention the fact that fond memories of the books had me strongly anticipating this one's release. But that can only do so much, and the other books weren't nearly as bad.


He should have just stopped at Eternity Code.


I think he should have stopped with the first one actually.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Belial » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:44 am UTC

AntonGarou wrote:The Satanic Verses by Rushdie are highly overrated.A tenth-rate piece of literature garbage that doesn't seem to have point, engaging characters or interesting plot.


My first, instinctual response to this is "lies and blasphemy! Get off my lawn you damn kids!".

But on further consideration, I realize that I don't actually remember exactly why I thought this book was good, just that I remember enjoying it and seeing a fair amount of meaning in it.

The point of this post being, I suppose, that I am skeptical of your assessment but can't really argue at this time.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby zazums » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:57 pm UTC

The Twilight series. Seriously. I was coerced into reading the first one by some female acquaintances. Big mistake.

It could have been so great, if it was written by someone else. The author didn't do any research about vampires OR the town she set the story in. Ugh. It was poorly written and has become too popular for its own good.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby pxocean » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:05 pm UTC

I wasn't a fan of House of Leaves, either. I really really wanted to be - the idea was incredibly original - but turning the fucking 10 pound book over and over to read that gibberish just kind of put me in a foul mood.

I've tried to read Middlesex again and again and have failed. Everybody raved about it, even before Oprah. Get halfway through and get bored. Maybe I'm just bored by fiction in general now.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Alder » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:58 pm UTC

Treasure Island. Cannot read it, don't know why.

The Da Vinci Code. Man, am I glad I learned to skim at an early age.

Everything Patricia Cornwell has written since the 'non-fiction' Jack the Ripper book. They're in the present tense. The whole way through. It's so...uncomfortable and unnatural. Ugh.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby ironypoisoning » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:54 pm UTC

Heavily concur with: Unbearable Lightness of Being. As hard as I tried, I could not get through that shit, and gave it back to my friend with an apology. The only thing I should've been sorry for, in retrospect, was wasting the time I spent on trying to read that book. Also, word to whoever badmouthed Mitch Albom. Now I didn't finish reading Five People You Meet in Heaven. I gave up on it a chapter in, before the goddamned main character actually dies, so for all I know, it *could* have been absolutely fucking amazing, but after I read the first paragraph, I thought to myself that if I were writing it, I'd edit out that first paragraph and just begin the book with the second. With all semblance of respect lost, I couldn't exactly keep on reading...

Also, I rather dislike stories with thinly veiled messages and straw men... The Fatal Equilibrium was some shit my friend read for her econ major, which was basically the basic principles of economics dressed up in the guise of a murder mystery. It was like a huge pill barely covered with a layer of candy... the only thing that made it tolerable was the fact that it was set in Boston, and I love Boston. Whee.

The series Left Behind is also one of those... in case you haven't heard of it, go read it and have a good laugh. It's about the Rapture, and the end of the world, written from the point of view of a bewildered scientist whose devout, religious wife has been raptured, along with millions of others, and he's left on earth to comprehend the aftermath and of course, slowly change his mind about not believing in God. Well, I didn't see that coming from the first page...

Every day, I pray -or I would if I were religious- that those people would just write nonfiction and leave those of us who actually believe in real stories with real characters alone.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Kendo_Bunny » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:59 pm UTC

He wasn't a scientist, he was an airline pilot. The BEST AIRPLANE PILOT IN THE WORLD! And the other main character is the BEST INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER IN THE WORLD!

Both are blatant Gary Stu's.

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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Qwake » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:01 am UTC

Alder26 wrote:The Da Vinci Code. Man, am I glad I learned to skim at an early age.


This goes without saying.

Tolstoy. Goddamn that man was boring. Maybe I just got a crappy translation, but The Death of Ivan Ilyich was terrible.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby mypsychoticself » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:52 am UTC

For those who don't like Catcher in the Rye, a college professor agrees! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=94129299

The Twilight series is so overrated.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby kjsharke » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:01 am UTC

(taking a long time to get back to this, but I think that this is my reaction to the thread as a whole)

Kendo_Bunny wrote:I disagree about 'Catcher in the Rye' not being overrated, and disliking it meaning that you just don't enjoy that genre.

'Catcher in the Rye' is hailed by many as the be-all, end-all of modern stories about teenage detachment...


I think that the movie Crash is horribly overrated. I don't really think of many books as being overrated though. I don't think that CitR is the be-all end-all of anything (except perhaps JD Salinger's oeuvre, though I liked Good Day for Bananafish), but I enjoyed it.

And that and Hemingway might been seen as good books for school because they are easy, but still substantive.

On the other end of the spectrum, I have never gotten up to reading James Joyce (except Dubliners), and he tops every list. I don't know if he is overrated, but he certainly isn't my favorite.

Ayn Rand inspires cults, and I just don't see it. I don't know if it is a gender thing? I just don't like it.

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But I just read Anna Karenina, and I loved it. There were a bunch of things there that felt like they were lifted from my life. I don't know about the ending though.
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Re: Worst/Overrated books.

Postby Renster » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:22 am UTC

I'm sick to death of Shakespeare.


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