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the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Bradpiece » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:38 pm UTC

I read the first book of the Dresden Files ("Storm Front") and really enjoyed the noir-ish detective story mixed with a little magic and wizardry. Are the remainder of the books in the series as good (or better?)?

Also, any insight into the Codex Alera series would be appreciated. I can never find them in my local library.

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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Jessica » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:31 pm UTC

I'm onto book 5 of the dresden files. I quite enjoy it. It's pulpy. REALLY pulpy. It's filled with action, and has some noir elements. they're really fast reads, though I've found every book so far to be really slow to start, then it kicks it into gear and just flies to the end. Also, it seems every book has a time scale of like 3 days.

There are problems with them. Dresden is a misogynistic jerk, and Butcher's women are all sexy, or in some way sex figures, even "strong women" like Murphy. The slow beginings are a real pain, because they're REALLY slow. They repeat the same things over and over (Magic is based on emotions, a circle is necessary to hold magic, Evocation is dangerous etc), which... isn't horrible, but if you read all the books, you know this stuff. I guess it's so that you can start in the middle of the series, but you really wouldn't want to do that anyway.

I enjoy them as pulpy fun. No real thought or effort goes into reading them.
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby cathrl » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:29 pm UTC

I enjoy them a lot. Dresden is very capable, but he isn't perfect, and he makes some horrible mistakes which have actual consequences. And I love the continuity from book to book. IMO the first book is probably the weakest of the lot.

Molly (who I don't think you've met yet) is one of the most hilariously accurate teen girl characters I've ever read. I'd swear Butcher has met my daughter, except that he hasn't.

I've got one of Butcher's fantasy novels - the first Codex Alera one. I was disappointed. It's perfectly competent, but it doesn't have the quirky flair that the Dresden books have - it's just another generic fantasy book. I've had it for several weeks and haven't finished it yet, which says a lot. When I get a new Dresden book, I normally read it within a couple of days at most.

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Postby Kizyr » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:31 am UTC

The Dresden Files just keeps getting better. I read rather little, and I've gone through Book 4. (I'm meaning to pick the series back up as soon as I finish another one I'm reading at the moment.) It just took half of the first book for me to get hooked.

From what I hear of Codex Alera, you have to get through the first book or two for it to get good, but it's worth it thereafter. If I were a more avid reader, I'd probably give it a try. But I browsed the first chapter and just found myself not getting terribly interested. KF
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Postby FoS » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:44 pm UTC

I've read all of them up till the most recent one released now in April and I've quite enjoyed the series so far.
It's definitely pulpy stuff but sometimes it's fun to kick back and read something pulpy.

Turn Coat comes out this month which I'm looking forward to.
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Postby ameretrifle » Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:56 am UTC

cathrl wrote:IMO the first book is probably the weakest of the lot.
How much better does it get? I've heard so many good things about this series, but the first book really didn't impress me much. I wouldn't say it was bad-- I just didn't feel much more than vague irritation for the main character. A testosterone overdose, perchance. Is it worth trying the rest of the series, or is it probably just not my cup of tea?

Bradpiece wrote:Also, any insight into the Codex Alera series would be appreciated. I can never find them in my local library.
If my local library has a request system, I can almost guarantee yours does. That's how I had to get my hands on the first Dresden book-- my usual branch doesn't carry any Jim Butcher books at all, as far as I can tell. If other libraries in town don't have it, they have arrangements in place to borrow things from libraries all over. All you should have to do is fill out a form. And endure a lot more hassle if you lose the book. ^^

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Postby Marbas » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:15 am UTC

Turn Coat comes out this month which I'm looking forward to.


Borders tells me it's out now. I shall buy it ASAP and read it. Mainly because I like these books more than I should.

How much better does it get?


Honestly, I've never actually read the first two books so I couldn't say. But I think Dead Beat is when he really hits his stride.
Or maybe Summer Knight.
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Kizyr » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:02 pm UTC

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How much better does it get?

Honestly, I've never actually read the first two books so I couldn't say. But I think Dead Beat is when he really hits his stride.
Or maybe Summer Knight.

It picked up at Grave Peril (3rd book) for me. But then, Michael is my favorite character. It's much better if you've read the first two, though, as then the contrast between Michael Carpenter and Harry Dresden is much more meaningful. KF
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby pooteeweet » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:41 pm UTC

Is this series what the TV show was based on? The description sounds fairly apt. I liked the show, I didn't even know there were books. Definitely on my to-read list now. Hmm. Your descriptions remind me of the Night Watch trilogy. Anybody read those?

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Postby cathrl » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:59 pm UTC

pooteeweet wrote:Is this series what the TV show was based on? The description sounds fairly apt. I liked the show, I didn't even know there were books. Definitely on my to-read list now. Hmm. Your descriptions remind me of the Night Watch trilogy. Anybody read those?


I also came to the books from the TV show. There are lots of differences, but the feel is similar.

The only Night Watch I'm familiar with is by Terry Pratchett, and I didn't think it was a trilogy...

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Postby Marbas » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:41 pm UTC

The only Night Watch I'm familiar with is by Terry Pratchett, and I didn't think it was a trilogy...


The "Night Watch" series is a trilogy of Urban Fantasy novels from Russia. I don't really like them because I think the translation could use a little work. I found the prose awkward and irritating. But the characterization and plot were solid enough to keep me reading through the whole book.

Also, I finished Turn Coat. It was very good. If you liked his previous work you'll like this one as well. Other than that, I don't think anything's going to change your mind about him if you dislike him already.
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Postby pooteeweet » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:25 am UTC

Yeah, the translation was a touch clumsy at points, but I thought it kind of added to the charm--whenever I noticed it I'd start reading (in my head, not aloud) with a bad Russian accent which made it kind of fun. I do really love the fantasy world that is imagined in those books, combined with the post-communist Russian setting.

Back on topic, I'm totally going to read the Dresden Files at the next convenient opportunity. I have sworn off buying any new books till I move out of my current apartment next month. So... it'll be my summer reading.

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Postby Mo0man » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:29 pm UTC

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This happens in one of the books. You can pretty much decide whether or not to read the series from that
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Burning » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:10 am UTC

The books definitely start getting better after the first couple. I definitely remember not being too impressed with the first one, but now they're one of my favorite series.

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Postby clockworkmonk » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:54 pm UTC

seeing as this was recently necro'd from wayback, I'll guess I'll pick up on where it is now.

How did everyone feel about the events of Changes? Personally, I like the direction it headed and am looking forward to Ghost Story.

an excerpt from the first chapter has also been posted online, if y'all are interested. it can be found here
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Postby mister k » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:00 pm UTC

Really enjoyed Changes for the most part, didn't see either elements of the ending approaching, although I'd propose those who have yet to read Changes not read the blurb for Ghost Story. This is usually true, but up until now the changes have been rather gradual.
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Postby eggdudeguy » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:43 pm UTC

I miss the TV series for the Dresden Files, though it isn't all that similar to the books.
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Postby Belial » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:43 pm UTC

clockworkmonk wrote:an excerpt from the first chapter has also been posted online, if y'all are interested. it can be found here
http://www.orbitbooks.net/an-excerpt-from-ghost-story/


I am intrigued to see what version of
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"The main character gets to come back from the dead but we're not going to alter the balance of the setting by making it so that anyone else can do so, or he ever can again"

they're going to pull to make the latter half of the book series possible, as there are meant to be quite a few books left.
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Chuff » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:36 am UTC

Ending with an apocalyptic trilogy, because who doesn't like apocalyptic trilogies?!

But, um, I rather like these books. Yeah, Dresden's a misogynistic jerk, but they're entertaining to read.
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Postby Belial » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:47 am UTC

He's a misogynistic jerk mostly because he's a noir hero and that's, like, genre standard. You're issued your faint, comparatively-benign sexism at the same time as your run-down office, long coat, revolver, and penchant for tortured similes. Shortly before your police-contact-down-at-the-station and the cop warden-who's-always-watching-you-because-he's-sure-you're-up-to-no-good. You have to fill out a separate form for those.

What I tend to find more important is whether the text actually supports the hero on his misogyny. That is, does the world of the book actually conform to his ideas about women? Or does it show him to be wrong, and portray it as a flaw?
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Cambion » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:55 pm UTC

I absolutely love Butcher's work with The Dresden Files, and Ghost Story is taking far too long to come out for me to get my fix.

Changes was a very good book with a lot of emotional moments and the choices he made in it, without getting spoilery, will affect the rest of the series. I'm also looking forward to seeing exactly what Butcher is planning to deal with how the book ended and where it goes from there. Hopefully he doesn't fall back on too many fiction tropes that, or that if he does, he gives them some twist worth reading. I'd hate to be 11 books deep into this series and suddenly lose interest.

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Postby mister k » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:52 pm UTC

Belial wrote:He's a misogynistic jerk mostly because he's a noir hero and that's, like, genre standard. You're issued your faint, comparatively-benign sexism at the same time as your run-down office, long coat, revolver, and penchant for tortured similes. Shortly before your police-contact-down-at-the-station and the cop warden-who's-always-watching-you-because-he's-sure-you're-up-to-no-good. You have to fill out a separate form for those.

What I tend to find more important is whether the text actually supports the hero on his misogyny. That is, does the world of the book actually conform to his ideas about women? Or does it show him to be wrong, and portray it as a flaw?


I think in the earlier books its rather supportive of the heroes' misogny: one gets the impression that the author has similar feelings. As the series continues however, it fleshes out some awesome female characters such as Murphy, his Godmother, and Susan. The Dresden Files have just got stronger and stronger to mind. They're still shlock, but they're awesome shlock.
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Postby emceng » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:22 pm UTC

I just finished the 2nd book on Monday. As everyone says, they pulp fiction. I'm still not sure if I enjoyed the book or not. I guess some things about it annoy me, but the action and events are fun to read. Part of it is the same issue I have with lots of fantasy - ill defined magic power. Dresden is supposedly in the top dozen or so wizards in the US, but half the time seems...incompetent/lazy/weak? Something.

If you like these, I would suggest Glenn Cook's Garrett novels. Except for the recent ones, they're hard to find but I think worth it. It's detective noir, but less magicy and more fantasy.
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Postby Belial » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:36 pm UTC

Dresden is supposedly in the top dozen or so wizards in the US


Not quite. As is driven home over several books, he's in the top dozen or so as far as raw power, but not so much in finesse, skill, or experience. The latter all improve steadily across the books. As it stands, he's mostly just really good at "I hit it and make it die" magic, which is of...limited utility.
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Postby El Spark » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:30 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
Dresden is supposedly in the top dozen or so wizards in the US


(snip) he's mostly just really good at "I hit it and make it die" magic, which is of...limited utility.


This. In later books, he mentions that he's been practicing a lot more, and that his control is getting better overall. At some points, though, he's around when older wizards cut loose, and he's simply in awe of their absolute control of their power.

To put it a different way...Harry is like a newbie in control of a tank, and the more experienced wizards are like seasoned snipers. =)
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Postby Enokh » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:46 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
clockworkmonk wrote:an excerpt from the first chapter has also been posted online, if y'all are interested. it can be found here
http://www.orbitbooks.net/an-excerpt-from-ghost-story/


I am intrigued to see what version of
Spoiler:
"The main character gets to come back from the dead but we're not going to alter the balance of the setting by making it so that anyone else can do so, or he ever can again"

they're going to pull to make the latter half of the book series possible, as there are meant to be quite a few books left.


I read somewhere that
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there's some Norse myth which states that Odin has some sort of mead that, when given to a warrior, can bring him back to life. When Dresden visited Monoc HQ, Odin giving him tea (and doughnuts) is theorized to be the modern equivalent. I haven't been able to find said myth, however.

My original theory on who killed Dresden was Lea, and that she did it because some pact between Lea and Dresden's mother came into play (the reasoning there being that Dresden's mother would deem it likely that Dresden would get involved with the Winter Court, and thus could become the Winter Knight or some other terribad thing, so she told Lea to have him killed if it happened and then do x, y, and z to bring him back to life. The first chapter seems to pretty well knock this theory down, but maybe Lea got one of the Fallen to do it (which would be a little unsettling)

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Postby Sartorius » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:53 am UTC

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cathrl wrote:IMO the first book is probably the weakest of the lot.
How much better does it get? I've heard so many good things about this series, but the first book really didn't impress me much. I wouldn't say it was bad-- I just didn't feel much more than vague irritation for the main character. A testosterone overdose, perchance. Is it worth trying the rest of the series, or is it probably just not my cup of tea?


Perhaps it will be different for you, but I gave up in the beginning of the third book. Dresden just annoyed me to the extent that all I wanted to do was punch his face in and tell him to stop thinking so much with his penis. I certainly like the writing, and I don't mind that it's pulp-y, but I just couldn't take Dresden anymore.

But everyone else here seems to like them, so I guess you may as well give them a chance. Reading later books seems like a good suggestion.
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Postby mister k » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:52 am UTC

yeah I did feel annoyed at Dresden, but he does get better. I've yet to re-read any of the books, so I can't really recall. I also began to get annoyed at the static nature of the world, which is why the series gets better for me: Theres a looot of developments in the world, and in Dresden's nature.
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Postby Ggrogg » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:51 am UTC

I just started listening to the audiobooks of the Dresden series. On the one had the only ones I have access to are Blood Rites, Dead Beat, and Turncoat, which all are in the middle of the series. So, starting out in the middle. But on the upside, not having any problems understanding it so far. Enjoying them very much and enjoying the audiobooks. 8)

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Postby emceng » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:43 pm UTC

I am now caught up to the most recent release. I have really enjoyed the series. I am a little unhappy with

Spoiler:
the ending of Changes. Freaking cliff hanger endings.



And the fact that they're doing hardcovers now, so instead of spending $10 on a novel that will take me 6 hours to read, they expect me to pay $29.
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Postby Mo0man » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:31 am UTC

Didn't they always do hardcovers?

Regardless, the hardcover is only 15 dollars
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby maybeagnostic » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:07 pm UTC

This series always seemed like something I might enjoy and I gave it a try a few years ago but the beginning of the first book was so... not particularly promising that I gave up.

Recently I decided to give it another try and ended up reading the first nine books in a little over a month. The first book was pretty weak (no interesting characters or engaging mystery), the second one was a lot better (to the level of being slightly better than ok) but the series really picks up with the third book. After that there are significant developments and new interesting characters introduced in every book, the fantasy part of the urban fantasy starts getting more specific, even intricately detailed and the female characters (like everyone else) get a lot more fleshed out.

I decided to give myself a break from the series because I really couldn't handle reading all the standard description of magic, places and characters that take up the first third of each book.

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Postby Aceo » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:38 pm UTC

I've read all of these up to the latest (Ghost Story). I have to say, Ghost Story was the best one yet. The series as a whole is great too.
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Postby emceng » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:41 pm UTC

Aceo wrote:I've read all of these up to the latest (Ghost Story). I have to say, Ghost Story was the best one yet. The series as a whole is great too.


Good to hear. It should be arriving from Amazon today!
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Ggrogg » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:27 am UTC

Well I was sadly very disappointed with the Dresden book I started to read. I was reading "Blood Rites" which I know isn't the first book in the series but I didn't have a hard time understanding what was going on, it was pretty usual stuff. He had one of the major flaws I can't stand in a protagonist: the supposedly intelligent character who consistently makes stupid and irrational decisions on a regular basis. Harry acts like such a jerk and a moron so often that I can't possibly see how he would live long enough for even a couple books let alone a long series. Maybe it's just this book that is so filled with examples of this, but I doubt it. The only reason Harry seems to be alive is that his enemies are equally stupid. Also, he can't seem to go two chapters without Harry snarling at someone to shut up or just shut up or shut the f*** up (sometimes someone snarls it at Harry tho just for a little variety).

Here's a brief rundown of some of the stupid things he does:
*Upon meeting one of the most powerful vampires in the entire world for the first time he snarls at him to shut up, thereby making a lifelong enemy for no reason.
*Allows a vampire to kill a girl because apparently he's fine with that.
*Falls asleep in the mansion of the vampires after explaining that they really don't have to follow the rules of a truce.
*Is intimidated by a girl with a gun even tho he wears a shield bracelet that he can activate to protect himself from bullets.
*After managing to distract the girl decides in the middle of lunging at her that he doesn't want to hurt her, thus allowing her to get a shot off.
*It should also be mentioned that he was talking on the phone with a police officer when this girl bursts in with the gun and hangs up the phone and instead of being alarmed by this and coming to investigate why he suddenly hung up the police officer friend instead puts on a dress and goes to a family reunion.
*Goes to a family reunion of a lot of people including probably a dozen off-duty police officers and when one of them approaches him instead of saying "Hi, I'm looking for Karen Murphy." he decides "I don't have time for this!" so he smart-mouths the guy for no reason at all in an effort to get his ass kicked and then after pissing the guy off says "I'm looking for Karen Murphy" thereby costing himself time because he couldn't figure out the fastest way to find her at a family reunion.
*Multiple times stands between two people who have weapons aimed at each other. That's always a smart idea.
*Doesn't use his wizard sight to find out what sort of demon/creature his mercenary friend is, even tho he could. He waits until halfway into a vampire lair to do it.
*After firing two shots with a shotgun (which would certainly wake up every guard within the entire lair) decides to have a 5 minute conversation about morality. Luckily, as I mentioned, his opponents are just as stupid so instead of all the guards getting together and rushing them in a pack and killing them the various guards and hellhounds just... I don't even know because that's when I gave up on the series and this author. I'm baffled as to how he has become so successful. His main vampire opponent also sends a single vampire to ambush him early on in the book thereby making sure Harry knows she's back in town rather than just ambushing him with a dozen vampires and ghouls and etc. and doing the job right. So stupid character is saved by stupid enemies. Just complete crap altho some witty dialogue.

P.S. Same problem with David Eddings. Characters who are dumb as a brick but supposedly smart. No idea why people like them but they were an okay read when I was 12 and didn't notice how dumb the characters were being.

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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby mister k » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:17 pm UTC

Ggrogg, you are actually typifying something that really bugs me about people in general. We watch person A in some situation and say "why on earth do they do that?" where the assumption is bad writing. Thats actually only one of a number of possibilities

-the character has flaws that drive them to make those kinds of decisions
-the character is under stress. Stress can make people do ASTONISHINGLY stupid things. It really shouldn't be underestimated.
-The character does not have the same amount of information as you, either as the best way to handle said situation, or what said situation is.

Its been a while since I've read Blood Rites, but several of those points are addressed by Harry being a hothead who doesn't think things through. I remember being irritated by the gun scene too, but I believe at the time Harry wasn't able to reliably activate his shield fast enough to deflect gunfire. Harry hates using his wizard sight, as it has massive scarring effects on his soul. As for the 5 minute conversation on morality in the middle of a fight... well thats slightly poor writing, sure, but thats the nature of the beast.

Have now read Ghost Story, its a lot of fun, and theres some clever writing

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I should have seen the mystery solution coming really, but somehow didn't. I like the resolution of Harry's deal, but it was a bit similar to the resolution to when he had obligations to the fae beforehand, but meh.
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby emceng » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:32 pm UTC

Ok, recently started the Codex Alera series. Not sure what to think.

The first book I enjoyed reading, but it's not really great fiction. It's kind of a standard fantasy setting, with magic, coming of age story of a boy, annoying borrowing of words from Latin, etc. Also had the common flaw of
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being unable to kill people off. Yes, they have healing magic. That doesn't mean you need to only have...I think 2 named characters die in the whole book.
The second book is doing ok, except one character is getting on my nerves.
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Isana. She all of a sudden comes with a hatred of the First Lord. A completely illogical hatred, that is exceedingly nonsensical. Oh noes, my sister died because she fell in love with some dude and followed the army that got wiped out. The army that also prevented the Marat from killing everyone in the valley, including Isana and her sister. What the fuck kind of reasoning is that? Add in the whole 'Isana is a respected leader, so she should understand making tough decisions' and it makes no freaking sense.
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby Belial » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:57 pm UTC

You should probably go ahead and accept the idea that there's shit going on in those books that you don't know about yet. I don't think everything is fully on the table until about the second to last book.

Also, borrowing words from Latin makes perfect sense since those are actually romans. The human population of Alera is, as stated by the author and hinted in the books, actually descended from the Lost Roman Legion and their legion followers. They apparently got lost so hard they wandered off the planet.
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby mister k » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:24 pm UTC

I started the second book of that series, but couldn't enjoy it. I find the writing a bit clumsy, and the characters less appealing. They feel a bit cliche, and the whole "school academy" thing is something I tired of in fantasy a while ago....
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Re: the books of Jim Butcher

Postby maybeagnostic » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:05 pm UTC

Belial wrote:You should probably go ahead and accept the idea that there's shit going on in those books that you don't know about yet. I don't think everything is fully on the table until about the second to last book.

Really? There was no plot twist in this series that I didn't see coming at least one book in advance, usually more than that. Maybe something surprising happens in the last book but I never read it because Princeps' fury was just so terrible. Spoilers from fifth book follow:
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Those borg/zerg hybrids are the most unimaginative villains I have seen in a book for years. They have zombies, mind control, super intelligence, a hive mind, super advanced biotechnology, can reproduce as fast as they want, are stronger and faster than any human, feel nothing, want nothing. I was especially annoyed by how the queens kept talking about humans being illogical while killing babies just to show how evil they are but at the same time their only purpose is to kill everyone. Why? And if they are that powerful and wiped out everyone (at least) once before, how come there is any life at all left?

Overall, i was pretty disappointed by the series- conversations were consistently awkward, even the main characters remained at best two-dimensional after five books* (this is kind of acceptable in the Dresden series because the only one that really needs to be fleshed out is Harry and we only see his perception of everyone else but the Codex Alera series has multiple POV characters that only have one or two defining characteristics each), and the final enemies turned out to be extremely cliched and boring- the fifth book had at least a dozen descriptions of battles as rows of nameless soldiers slashing at the tide. That is not epic or terrifying. It might have worked as a background for something interesting but these pointless battles were supposed to BE the thing that was happening.

* I was particularly annoyed by the cat girl. Technically she didn't look like a cat but every other adjective used to describe her was 'feline' and she spent most of her time napping and complaining about having to wear clothes.

P.S. I recently finished the fifth book and gave myself a week before I'd post about it but in retrospect the book doesn't seem any better. I was really hoping this series would pick up like the Dresden Files (starting off with a kind of bad book and getting better with each installment) but it didn't work out. I liked the third one quite a bit and the fourth one was... okay, i guess. I felt like the plot was finally going somewhere interesting but the zorg(?) are just... bah.
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