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Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby LSK » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:14 pm UTC

Okay, new rules starting with story #3:
- Person A reads a book/short story and gives a 256-word summary.
- Without using their knowledge of the original work, Person B reads the 256-word summary and summarizes the plot in 128 words.
- Person C trims it to 64.
- Person D trims it to 32.
- Person E trims it to 16.
- Person F trims it to 8.

(The old rules went 500-250-125-60-30-15, but that didn't have quite the effect I was looking for.)

There's no need to sign up; if you like this idea, just post a summary fulfilling one of these roles.

Please indicate whether you're fulfilling role A, B, C, D, E, or F in your reply, and whose summary or story you're summarizing. Thanks in advance!
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby wst » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:20 pm UTC

LSK wrote:I have an idea.
- Person A through F compress a story down to 15 words.
Fix'd.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Chfan » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:54 pm UTC

I will take the place of A, and summarize H.P. Lovecraft's "The Statement of Randolph Carter":

In the first person, a man tells a group of unidentified men investigating something that has happened, which the man describes as “horrors.” He mentions a Harley Warren, and states that he hopes Warren has gone on to “a peaceful oblivion.” The man recants a tale about going out one night with Harley Warren, who he identifies as his closest friend. They went to a cemetery near Big Cypress Swamp with shovels, electric lanterns, and a wire with some strange instruments attached. The man (Randolph Carter) states that Warren was an investigator of the “weird” and that Carter had a theory on why some corpses do not decay. He says that Warren had procured a book that was written in an indecipherable language from somewhere in India and that the book would explain what they were going to do. They went through the swamp to an ancient cemetery, which Carter describes as evil and fantastical. They go through the cemetery to dig, revealing a large stone structure covered by some stone slabs, which they lift off one by one. The stones revealed a stairwell leading into the earth, which was apparently a tomb of some sort. A terrible smell wafts up from the stone structure and caused Carter and Warren to step away from it. Warren tells Carter that he does not have strong enough nerves to go down into the tomb with Carter, and it would drive him to “madness or death.” He asks, however, that Carter correspond with him on the telephone that they brought and to hold onto the wire that will be tied to Warren as he goes into the structure. The reader is reminded by Carter’s narrative that he doesn’t know why they are doing this or what is in the tomb. Warren then goes down the steps and disappears from view or earshot. The slabs remain off the aperture. Carter waits, alone, before hearing clicking from the telephone and picking it up. There he hears Warren’s voice, yelling about how awful and ghastly what he is experiencing is, and that it was something worse than he had expected. Warren does not directly state what “it” is. Warren’s voice then urges Carter to put the slab back on the aperture and escape as quickly as possible. Carter remains fearful, but refuses to leave his friend behind. Carter offers to go down into the structure, but Warren refuses and pleads with Carter to leave at once. Warren states that he will soon be dead and there isn’t much time left. He mentions “hellish legions,” and then radio silence. After a few minutes Carter yells through the telephone in an attempt to talk to carter, but he gets no response. Carter then tells the reader that he heard a voice so awful that it caused him to lose consciousness and have his memory totally blanked out until he woke up in the hospital. He tells the men that the voice had said, “YOU FOOL, WARREN IS DEAD!”
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:25 pm UTC

Tentatively moved to Forum Games to see if it works out better here or in Books
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Ralith The Third » Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:59 am UTC

A man tells a group of unknown investigators about some ,"horrors" which involve a Harley Warren. He hopes Warren has gone onto a peaceful oblivion, and reveals that Warren was his best friend. One night, Warren and the man, known as Randolph Carter, who were investigators of the ,"wierd" went to a cemetery near a swamp with some implements. Warren had procured a book in a foreign, undecipherable language, which would supposedly explain what to do. They go to a ,"evil and fantastical" cemetery to dig up a stone structure covered in slabs, which they move away. The stones covered a stairwell to an underground tomb, which stunk horribly, causing the men to step away. Warren tells Carter that he is afraid to go into the tomb because it would drive him insane, and asks Carter to keep in contact via the telephone they brought while Warren goes in holding onto a wire covered in instruments, which has one end in Carter's hand. Carter doesn't know why they are doing this or what's in the tomb, but he stays on the telephone as Warren dissapears into the tomb. Carter waits until he recieves a call from Warren, who yells about how ghastly is is down there, and that what is happening is worse than what he expected. Warren tells Carter to cover the tomb and escape. Carter is fearful, but refuses to leave his friend behind, and offers to go down into the tomb. Warren says no and begs Carter to leave. He says he'll die soon, and mentions ,"hellish legions" before the line dies. Carter tries yelling through the telephone to no avail. He then tells the investigators he heard a horrible voice and lost conciousness. He woke up in a hospital with no memory.

It might be a bit over, if you count articles, but..
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby pooteeweet » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:20 pm UTC

Ooh, this is fun. Like a combination of Telephone and Exquisite Corpse.

I'm person C, summarizing Ralith the Third's summary. He forgot to mention that he's person B, summarizing Chfan's summary.

A man named Randalph Carter tells investigators of the "horrors" that ensued when he and his best friend, Harley Warren, visited an "evil and fantastical" cemetery. The pair arrived with an indecipherable book of Warren's, and dug up the stairway to a foul-smelling subterranean tomb. Warren confided his fear that exploring the sepulcher might cost him his sanity. Carter, ignorant of their expedition's purpose, remained outside and awaited telephone contact as Warren descended into the hole. After some time Warren called, panicked, begging Carter to leave. Carter hesitated, but Warren said he was about to die anyways, and gibbered something about "legions of hell" before the line went dead. Carter then heard a horrible voice, blacked out, and awoke in a hospital with amnesia.

Hmm, this is trickier than I thought. I got about two-thirds through the summary and realized I was already well over my allotted word-count.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby 0range » Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:38 pm UTC

pooteeweet wrote:A man named Randalph Carter tells investigators of the "horrors" that ensued when he and his best friend, Harley Warren, visited an "evil and fantastical" cemetery. The pair arrived with an indecipherable book of Warren's, and dug up the stairway to a foul-smelling subterranean tomb. Warren confided his fear that exploring the sepulcher might cost him his sanity. Carter, ignorant of their expedition's purpose, remained outside and awaited telephone contact as Warren descended into the hole. After some time Warren called, panicked, begging Carter to leave. Carter hesitated, but Warren said he was about to die anyways, and gibbered something about "legions of hell" before the line went dead. Carter then heard a horrible voice, blacked out, and awoke in a hospital with amnesia.


I'm Person D. I think I got 60, unless I miscounted.

Randalph Carter tells of the "horrors" when he and Harley Warren dug up the tomb. Warren feared for his sanity. Carter, ignorant, remained outside and awaited telephone contact. Warren called begging Carter to leave. Warren said he was about to die and gibbered, "legions of hell". Carter heard a horrible voice, blacked out, and awoke in a hospital with amnesia.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Zalzidrax » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:53 am UTC

Iteration E, 30 words:

Recounted in story, Randolph Carter and Harley Warren excavate a tomb. Carter remains outside awaiting telephone contact. One call comes: gibbering about Hell's legions. Next, a terrible voice and darkness.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Zohar » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:03 am UTC

In 15 words (I even avoided the other summaries because tl;dr :P):

Randolph and Harley excavate a tomb. Randolph's outside, gets a call followed by strange occurrences.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:16 am UTC

Zohar wrote:In 15 words (I even avoided the other summaries because tl;dr :P):

Randolph and Harley excavate a tomb. Randolph's outside, gets a call followed by strange occurrences.

They open tomb. A call and bad happenings.
EDIT: I know this is only to 15. Let's keep it going to 1.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby 6453893 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:19 am UTC

So what, I only get four?

Tomb opened. Bad happenings.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Zohar » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:22 am UTC

Tomb, bad.

Edit: Alternatively:

Irresponsible excavating.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby SuperTD » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:23 am UTC

Umm...

Bad.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:27 am UTC

d.

Let's try a new story yay!
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Zohar » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:29 am UTC

Hah, it would be funny to summarize one of those 6-word stories. :)
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:32 am UTC

sale: shoes, unworn
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alternate:
baby got miscarried.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby 6453893 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:22 am UTC

Imma try...Atlas Shrugged. Because I really want to see the two word summary.

Spoiler:
Dagny Taggart is trying to save her Rail Company from going bankrupt. She is an excellent businesswoman, but incompetent fools surround her and the few good workers she has seem to be disappearing. One by one, they just quit their jobs and are never heard from again. One of her primary business associates is Hank Rearden, who ends up as her lover for the majority of the book. Most businessmen seem to uphold social responsibility over profitability, and Dagny/Hank are called greedy and amoral for trying to run their businesses well. The government also steps in every five minutes with some new law to fix the economy, but each new law has more and more disastrous repercussions. For some reason, Dagny goes out in the desert to do stuff, when she finds the designs for a motor that runs on static electricity in the air, which is an infinitely renewable resource. So she begins a quest to find the inventor of this motor. She also has to build a railway from New York to Colorado, and she uses a new, miraculous metal invented by Rearden. Everyone thinks the metal is a sham, but the rail is built and it’s amazing and everyone is happy. Except the economy is being torn apart because everyone on the planet, rather than doing anything about their problems, is simply looking for somebody else to blame. The few talented workers left are disappearing, and Dagny suspects someone is behind these disappearances. The executives of major corporations are increasingly interested in making money by bribing or blackmailing one another, and gradually lose interest in traditional business. Dagny sees one of the vanished people board a plane, and decides to follow them across a mountain range and back. She then sees the plane descend into what appears to be a barren abyss, but what is actually a utopic society built by all the people who vanished over the years. It’s all run by a scientist who lets Dagny stay for a month to witness their life. Ultimately, she can’t bear to give up her Rail Company and returns to the real world. Everything collapses and the government tries to halt the ruin by forcing companies to do business exactly the same way, year after year. Every company must buy and sell exactly the same product to exactly the same people in exactly the same quantity et cetera. This doesn’t last very long though, and eventually the business world comes to a grinding halt. At this point the scientist from before gives a hundred page-long speech that basically encompasses everything Ayn Rand ever said ever. The government tries to force him to fix all of the problems, but he tells them the problems can’t be fixed and they realize he’s right. The scientist and Dagny go back to the utopic society and wait for the world to completely collapse. When it does, they re-enter society and build it anew, and presumably nothing bad ever happens ever again. Refrigerator.


As you can see, I got to the end and found I was one word short.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby LSK » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:57 pm UTC

I haven't read Atlas Shrugged yet, so I figure I'll give my own experiment a try. 250 words, though I went under.

Dagny Taggart's coworkers, particularly the skilled ones, start to disappear one by one without leaving so much as a note, and the economic times are tough. Her lover, Hank Rearden, is one of her business associates. They are held at fault morally for their relative profitability, compared to the other companies which pursue what appears to be social responsibility. The government doesn't help the economy much; its laws aim to help the economy, but don't. Dagny discovers an infinitely renewable energy source and tries to find its inventor. She builds a long railroad, too, using a miraculous metal. However, her work doesn't make the economy better; everyone still blames everyone else, and good workers are all but vanished. Dagny sees a missing person board an airplane, and follows it to a hidden utopia built by the missing people. She spends a month there and returns to reality, where the government is still bumbling and companies collapse. The economy comes to a halt, and a scientist from the utopia explains to the government that it can't be fixed. Dagny and the scientist go back to the utopia and wait until the world collapses, then they go back out and build society anew.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:03 am UTC

Dagny Taggart's skilled coworkers leave without explanation, and the economy is rough. She and her lover are called immoral for aiming for profit, as opposed to social responsibility. The government's laws to help the economy fail. Dagny finds renewable energy and builds a railway with amazing metal, but this does not help the economy, and all the good workers are gone. She sees one of the missing persons boarding a plane and follows him to a utopia of all the missing good workers. On return, the government's interventions on the economy destroys it. A utopian explains why it can't be fixed. Dagny and the scientist go back to the utopia to wait to rebuild society after it crumbles.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby pooteeweet » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:58 am UTC

Wait, are we supposed to have read the original, intact story or any of the summarizations prior to the one we are summarizing? I assumed not, since this game made me think of Telephone and Exquisite Corpse, which are totally contingent on each person's input being based only on what they receive from the person before them--i.e. those games hinge on each new person being ignorant of all the prior material, except for the latest bit which is transmitted to them.

Since we don't know the nature of the OP's project, I don't know whether this rule would be relevant to their purpose. If we are supposed to make our summaries without having been exposed to anything but the version of the person above us, the OP should edit that rule into the first post of the thread so no-one reads spoiler versions before making their contribution. I'll just assume for now that this is the guideline.

I'm person D (60 words) summarizing Atlas Shrugged.

Dagny's skilled co-workers disappear. Government legislation and industry innovations are ineffective against ongoing economic decline. Dagny follows a desaparecido to a utopia populated by the missing skilled laborers. She returns to the outside world only to find it degrading further. Convinced it's beyond fixing, she goes back to utopia, which will rebuild society once the old system finishes obliterating itself.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby LSK » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:21 am UTC

pooteeweet wrote:Wait, are we supposed to have read the original, intact story or any of the summarizations prior to the one we are summarizing? I assumed not, since this game made me think of Telephone and Exquisite Corpse, which are totally contingent on each person's input being based only on what they receive from the person before them--i.e. those games hinge on each new person being ignorant of all the prior material, except for the latest bit which is transmitted to them.

Since we don't know the nature of the OP's project, I don't know whether this rule would be relevant to their purpose. If we are supposed to make our summaries without having been exposed to anything but the version of the person above us, the OP should edit that rule into the first post of the thread so no-one reads spoiler versions before making their contribution. I'll just assume for now that this is the guideline.


I agree that this needs to be clear. The top post has been edited to reflect this. It was intended to be telephone-like.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:30 am UTC

You base it just off the last post.

Also, please make it somewhat the right length. The guy I summarized did 201 words, not 250. IT makes it more difficult.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby frogman » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:08 am UTC

I'm person E, and I have 30 words. Atlas Shrugged.

pooteeweet wrote:Dagny's skilled co-workers disappear. Government legislation and industry innovations are ineffective against ongoing economic decline. Dagny follows a desaparecido to a utopia populated by the missing skilled laborers. She returns to the outside world only to find it degrading further. Convinced it's beyond fixing, she goes back to utopia, which will rebuild society once the old system finishes obliterating itself.


The world is bad. Dagny goes to a happy palace. She leaves and the world is worse. She goes back to the happy place. She will return to rebuild later.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Poochy » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:22 am UTC

frogman wrote:I'm person E, and I have 30 words. Atlas Shrugged.

The world is bad. Dagny goes to a happy palace. She leaves and the world is worse. She goes back to the happy place. She will return to rebuild later.


I'm person F, and I have 15 words.

Dagny leaves bad world for happy palace. World worsens in Dagny's absence. Dagny must rebuild.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby axilog14 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:22 am UTC

Uh...... I guess I'm person G?

Dagny leaves. Dagny must return.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby 0range » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:42 am UTC

Two words?

Dagny, Dagny?
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:08 am UTC

Since when does 15/2=5?
Try to put a little more effort in it, bud. =/
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Julien » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:28 am UTC

15/2 being 7.5, I'll give it a try with seven words :

Dagny leaves and comes back to repair.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:34 am UTC

How about eight so we can divide that to four and then two and then one? Just like we did to the last story.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby LSK » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:20 am UTC

Do you want to start the next one with 256? :P

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:24 am UTC

LSK wrote:Do you want to start the next one with 256? :P

No, 300. See OP.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Marz » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:35 am UTC

sje46: LSK is the OP. Better division, being a power of 2; so it halves each time. I say go for it.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby 6453893 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:35 am UTC

I hope I didn't spoil Atlas Shrugged for like twenty people. I tried to avoid some of the larger mysteries, but even so. it's a book worth not being spoiled.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Julien » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:56 pm UTC

If you leave me a few hours, I can write a 256 summarize of Mervyn Peake's 'Mr Pye', I just finished it.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby LSK » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:49 am UTC

Julien wrote:If you leave me a few hours, I can write a 256 summarize of Mervyn Peake's 'Mr Pye', I just finished it.

Go for it.

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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby 0range » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:00 am UTC

Just to clarify something... when we're summarizing, should we be attempting to stick to the exact words used in the previous summary, or do we have license to reword if appropriate?

For example:

"I went to the store to buy chips, but there were far, far too many people in line."

"I tried to buy chips, but it was packed."
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby sje46 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:02 am UTC

Marz wrote:sje46: LSK is the OP. Better division, being a power of 2; so it halves each time. I say go for it.

Haha, sorry dude. XD
This was a great idea for a thread by the way.
0range wrote:Just to clarify something... when we're summarizing, should we be attempting to stick to the exact words used in the previous summary, or do we have license to reword if appropriate?

For example:

"I went to the store to buy chips, but there were far, far too many people in line."

"I tried to buy chips, but it was packed."
Sounds fine to me.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby Julien » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:14 am UTC

LSK wrote:
Julien wrote:If you leave me a few hours, I can write a 256 summarize of Mervyn Peake's 'Mr Pye', I just finished it.

Go for it.


Here you go ! Ladies and gentlemen, this is Mr Pye, by Mervyn Peake, summarized in 256 words :

Mr Pye is a British man in his mid-fifties and comes on the tiny and remote Channel island of Sark. He wants to create a perfect community between the islanders. His landlady, Miss Dredger, a heavily-smoking and strict woman, becomes his closest ally, and his first influence over the life of the island is to put an end to an ancient feud between Dredger and her neighbour Mrs George.

He acts so kind to the Sarkese that some kind of divine intervention has him grow angel wings, to his greatest despair, for he never wished to become anything else than a good ordinary man. He hides his wings but Mrs George catches a glimpse of them and, terrified, kills herself by falling on the stairs.

Desperate by this mutation, Mr Pye begins to act in an very evil way so the wings begins to shrink and eventually disappears, but then devil horns grows on his forehead instead. In the end he acts both evil and kind alternatively to find a balance between horns and wings. It seems impossible and he finally find himself permanently with both of them.

He seeks help in his friends Dredger, Thorpe the shy painter, and Tintagieu the nasty girl, but none of them is able to comfort him. In a desperate attemp to obliterate this supernatural punishment, he shows his horns and wings to the islanders, who immediately considers him a freak and purchases him over the island. After a night pursuit, he uses his wings to fly away.
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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby 0range » Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:47 pm UTC

Mr. Pye, a fifty year old man goes to the island of Sark wanting to create a perfect community. His heavily-smoking, strict landlady, Miss Dredger becomes his ally. His first influence on the island is to end Dredger and Mrs. George’s feud.
His kindness to the Sarkese has him grow angel wings, to his despair. He hides his wings, but Mrs. George sees them and kills herself.
Mr. Pye begins to act in evil ways, so the wings shrink and disappear, replaced by devil horns. He tries to find a balance between the two, but finds himself permanently with both.
He seeks help from his friends to no avail. Attempting to obliterate this supernatural punishment, he shows his horns and wings to the islanders who chase him away.


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Re: Need some participants for a school project on compression

Postby LSK » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:51 pm UTC

Mr. Pye, intending to create a utopia, goes to an island. On the island, Mr. Pye ends a feud between neighbors. The kind acts Mr. Pye does cause him to grow angelic wings. He does not like this. To stop the wings, Mr. Pye does misdeeds. Devil horns grow in their place. Eventually both horns and wings exist simultaneously. The islanders chase him away.

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