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Places which are things

Postby Eugo » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:07 pm UTC

This could be fun. Let's compile a list of geographical names which are actually common names for things or materials, in any language. Rules: 1) no suffixes (as these would make a distinction between the two words, we want one word), 2) word is used as both a name and a thing in the same language (to exclude "the x-ese name of country Y means yardstick in z-ese").

Off the top of my head, to start the list:

in english
Java - coffee
China - porcelain

in hungarian
burgonya (Burgundy) - potato

Can't remember any of them in my own language, except those that break rule #1.
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Postby eSOANEM » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:20 pm UTC

Eugo wrote:in hungarian
burgonya (Burgundy) - potato


Burgundy's also a thing in English. A wine (named after the region) and a colour (named after the wine).

Anyway, lots of wines are named after the region they're from.
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Re: Places which are things

Postby jaap » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:28 pm UTC

eSOANEM wrote:
Eugo wrote:in hungarian
burgonya (Burgundy) - potato


Burgundy's also a thing in English. A wine (named after the region) and a colour (named after the wine).

Anyway, lots of wines are named after the region they're from.

Not to mention cheeses.

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Re: Places which are things

Postby Sizik » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:39 pm UTC

Turkey - a bird
Georgia - a U.S. State
Georgia - a Caucasian country.
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Re: Places which are things

Postby eSOANEM » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:09 pm UTC

Sizik wrote:Georgia - a U.S. State
Georgia - a Caucasian country.


These are both places.

I think what Eugo wanted were places which were non-place things.
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Re: Places which are things

Postby tesseraktik » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:08 pm UTC

I was surprised to learn the word chad; an office supply term of arguable usefulness.


Oh, and I know you said none that are in the main language of the country it's in, but I've just got to mention:
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Re: Places which are things

Postby Derek » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:39 pm UTC

tesseraktik wrote:I was surprised to learn the word chad; an office supply term of arguable usefulness.

If you were in the US in late 2000, you would be intimately familiar with that word >_<

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Re: Places which are things

Postby brenok » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:08 pm UTC

In portuguese, Peru also means "turkey". It must be a common word for naming animals and countries...

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Re: Places which are things

Postby gmalivuk » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:07 pm UTC

tesseraktik wrote:Oh, and I know you said none that are in the main language of the country it's in
No, he just wanted to exclude cases where a word for an object in one language happens to be the word for a place in a different language. That sort of thing would thus better belong in a different thread.
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Re: Places which are things

Postby Eugo » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:25 am UTC

gmalivuk wrote:No, he just wanted to exclude cases where a word for an object in one language happens to be the word for a place in a different language. That sort of thing would thus better belong in a different thread.

Exactly.

Just remembered one from my language:

Mali - small one

It's an adjective, but it usually implies a thing - a kid, most often.
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Re: Places which are things

Postby gmalivuk » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:36 pm UTC

Sometimes it's also about a wolf, apparently, or at least it is in my surname.
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