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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:56 pm UTC

Interesting, good find.

The name is definitely much less common now, the last year at least five American baby girls were named Latrina was 2009, with the similar name "Latrinity" coming up only marginally more often.

I gotta say it's a damn horrible name, but I suppose if you don't know the word "latrine," you won't realize the problem.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Monika » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:49 pm UTC

Well, it sounds nice.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby CharlieP » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:05 am UTC

My girlfriend's friend wants to call her as-yet-unborn daughter Cersei, after the Game of Thrones character.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby flicky1991 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:40 am UTC

I think I'd avoid naming a child after a fictional character even if it was a real established name. I'd forever be associating my own child with a made-up character... Much better to pick a name for its meaning, or to name them after a real person (relative, close friend, person you look up to). As far as other people doing that is concerned I don't have as much of a problem with it, but if it's something like "Cersei" then it is a bit weird.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby ThemePark » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:19 pm UTC

flicky1991 wrote:I think I'd avoid naming a child after a fictional character even if it was a real established name. I'd forever be associating my own child with a made-up character... Much better to pick a name for its meaning, or to name them after a real person (relative, close friend, person you look up to). As far as other people doing that is concerned I don't have as much of a problem with it, but if it's something like "Cersei" then it is a bit weird.

Case in point, Robin Williams' daughter, Zelda Williams.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby flicky1991 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:34 pm UTC

Zelda's fine - that one's an actual name.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:48 pm UTC

flicky1991 wrote:Zelda's fine - that one's an actual name.
flicky1991 wrote:I think I'd avoid naming a child after a fictional character even if it was a real established name.

Pick one. Zelda Williams was named after the character.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby gmalivuk » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:24 pm UTC

Fictional names have affected real names for as long as people have consumed fiction, and I really don't see any problem with it, apart from the possibly unforeseen consequence that lots of children born in the past few years have Game of Thrones names and so they won't be as unique in their classes as their parents might have been hoping.

(And I think naming people because of the "meaning" is actually pretty rare in the US and I imagine in English-speaking countries in general.)
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Zohar » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:32 pm UTC

Wendy is the obvious example, as a name that was chosen in Peter Pan specifically because it wasn't used much, and then it became very popular following the book's success.

In any case, I don't see much difference between naming someone after a fictional character or after a person. In either case you could have a name that's inappropriate or uncommon in the culture you're in. In either case you're assigning someone a name that's significant for you in some way...
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby flicky1991 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:18 pm UTC

Eebster the Great wrote:
flicky1991 wrote:Zelda's fine - that one's an actual name.
flicky1991 wrote:I think I'd avoid naming a child after a fictional character even if it was a real established name.

Pick one. Zelda Williams was named after the character.

That second quote is about what I'd do. I said in the same post that I don't mind other people doing it.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Yablo » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:56 pm UTC

Eebster the Great wrote:The illusion that after something comes to your attention, you keep seeing instances of it in the next few days.

gmalivuk wrote:Edit: in 1974 the number was 138 girls, 0 boys, so I'm guessing you misapplied the fact that half of births are girls or something.

Dating back to about 1984 when my mother, brother, and I moved to San Diego and took up residence in Apartment #138 of an apartment complex, I see instances of the number 138 everywhere, and at least once a week. I wasn't the least bit surprised to find out that my brother had been born on the 138th day of the year, and I'm still trying to figure out just what the hell The Misfits were singing about in the song We Are 138.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:40 am UTC

gmalivuk wrote:(And I think naming people because of the "meaning" is actually pretty rare in the US and I imagine in English-speaking countries in general.)

It's probably not very common. I don't know if it's "rare" exactly, depending on how you qualify that adjective.

My first name, Michael, comes from the Bible, but neither of my parents is particularly religious and I am sure that had very little impact on their decision. It's my Dad's middle name, and a decent enough name, so that was good enough. I would guess the large majority of first names in the U.S. follow this general pattern, with some allowance for less common but more euphonious names as well (especially in African American families).

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Zohar » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:12 pm UTC

"From the bible" doesn't doesn't explain the meaning, though - only the etymology. The name literally means "Who is as god?" in Hebrew (as in "who can compare to god NO-ONE THAT'S WHO"). The name "David" is also from the bible but that name is derived from "Beloved" in Hebrew.

Most English names are derived from other languages and it's difficult to guess their origin. There are some unusual cases such as Rose, but mostly that's the case. Hebrew is particularly easy for this because a lot of names are from the bible anyway, and when they're not they're often simply Hebrew words.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby gmalivuk » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:12 pm UTC

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gmalivuk wrote:(And I think naming people because of the "meaning" is actually pretty rare in the US and I imagine in English-speaking countries in general.)

It's probably not very common. I don't know if it's "rare" exactly, depending on how you qualify that adjective.

My first name, Michael, comes from the Bible, but neither of my parents is particularly religious and I am sure that had very little impact on their decision. It's my Dad's middle name, and a decent enough name, so that was good enough. I would guess the large majority of first names in the U.S. follow this general pattern, with some allowance for less common but more euphonious names as well (especially in African American families).

A lot of (stereo)typical African American names are actually the exceptions that are based on the meaning of the word.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby animeHrmIne » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:26 pm UTC

A girl in my TEFL course is named Elizabeth. Her two sisters are also named Elizabeth.

Two of them use nicknames for Elizabeth (thankfully there are a fuckton), and one uses her middle name (they all have different middle names).

They weren't adopted, they all were given the name Elizabeth by their parents. Apparently TSA has stopped them before to make sure they didn't have fake passports.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Monika » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:41 pm UTC

WTF
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Grop » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:15 pm UTC

Yes, WTF is a poor choice for naming your child. Don't do that.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby ThemePark » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:17 am UTC

Unless of course it stands for William The First or some such.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:50 am UTC

ThemePark wrote:Unless of course it stands for William The First or some such.

William The First would be a pretty poor choice for a name, I think.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby TvT Rivals » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:25 am UTC

CharlieP wrote:My girlfriend's friend wants to call her as-yet-unborn daughter Cersei, after the Game of Thrones character.


Khaleesi is becoming popular too.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby HES » Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:47 am UTC

TvT Rivals wrote:
CharlieP wrote:My girlfriend's friend wants to call her as-yet-unborn daughter Cersei, after the Game of Thrones character.


Khaleesi is becoming popular too.

Unfortunately the former was the answer in the pub quiz earlier this week, whereas I had put down the latter.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Opipik » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:46 pm UTC

One stand-up comic had this sketch about children's names that went something like this:

"An acquaintance of mine once visited the Kortuš mountain* and thought it would make a good name for his child. I guess the child's first day in school will go like this: *child kicks the door open* 'Hello. My name is Kortuš Horáček**' or otherwise he would have a life full of traumatic experiences"

* the Kortuš mountain is fictitious
** in Czech Republic, there isn't as much pressure for the child to have an unique name

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Aiwendil » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:52 pm UTC

I don't get it.


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