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Bloxorz optimal path

Postby BlueNight » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:31 am UTC

I am seeking the lowest possible number of moves necessary to complete Bloxorz, the highly addictive Flash game. I thought I had an optimal path, but tonight I accidentally discovered a shorter path. I then discovered two more in short order.

I can now reach the beginning of Stage 4 with only 43 moves.

Spoiler:
Stage 1: R D R R D D R = 7 moves
Stage 2: U R D, R R R R, U U D R D, R R U R U = 17 moves
Stage 3: R U R R R, U L D R U U, R R R D D D R U = 19 moves
Total: 43 moves


I currently reach Stage 12 with 323 moves. Can anyone beat that, and if so, how?

(For purposes of this thread, don't count hitting the spacebar as a move; the game's move counter doesn't count the spacebar as a move. Commas in the lists of moves are only to separate groups of moves with clear objectives.)
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Nitrodon » Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:08 pm UTC

I just reached stage 12 in 321 moves.

Spoiler:
stage 1: 7 (7)
stage 2: 17 (24)
stage 3: 19 (43)
stage 4: 28 (71)
stage 5: 34 (104)
stage 6: 35 (139)
stage 7: 44 (183)
stage 8: 10 (193)
stage 9: 24 (217)
stage 10: 57 (274)
stage 11: 47 (321)

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby BlueNight » Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:58 am UTC

Nitrodon wrote:I just reached stage 12 in 321 moves.

Spoiler:
stage 1: 7 (7)
stage 2: 17 (24)
stage 3: 19 (43)
stage 4: 28 (71)
stage 5: 34 (104)
stage 6: 35 (139)
stage 7: 44 (183)
stage 8: 10 (193)
stage 9: 24 (217)
stage 10: 57 (274)
stage 11: 47 (321)


I also reached Stage 12 in 321 moves. Thanks to your post, I found how to beat stage 10 in 57 moves also.

Here are the rest of my move totals. Does anyone know of levels that could be shortened?

Spoiler:
Stage 1: 7 7
Stage 2: 17 (24)
Stage 3: 19 (43)
Stage 4: 28 (71)
Stage 5: 33 (104)
Stage 6: 35 (139)
Stage 7: 44 (183)
Stage 8: 10 (193)
Stage 9: 24 (217)
Stage 10: 57 (274)
Stage 11: 47 (321)
Stage 12: 65 (386)
Stage 13: 46 (432)
Stage 14: 67 (499)
Stage 15: 62 (561)
Stage 16: 34 (595)
Stage 17: 114 (709)
Stage 18: 90 (799)
Stage 19: 77 (876)
Stage 20: 51 (927)
Stage 21: 71 (998)
Stage 22: 75 (1073)
Stage 23: 94 (1167)
Stage 24: 67 (1234)
Stage 25: 57 (1291)
Stage 26: 110 (1401)
Stage 27: 71 (1472)
Stage 28: 100 (1572)
Stage 29: 105 (1677)
Stage 30: 114 (1791)
Stage 31: 97 (1888)
Stage 32: 129 (2017)
Stage 33: 125 (2142)
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Nitrodon » Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:35 am UTC

I played up to stage 30 earlier, and I'm ahead of you on the following stages:
Spoiler:
Stage 16: 28
Stage 17: 106
Stage 19: 67
Stage 22: 69
Stage 26: 104
Stage 29: 104

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby quintopia » Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:54 am UTC

could someone list the passcodes for all the levels? i played through today and figured out what the basic game plan is for each level, but i didn't bother to write down the codes as i went.

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Lothar » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:06 am UTC

I managed level 18 in 85 moves. That's 780 moves to level 19.

I have no idea how you finished level 20 in 51 moves, though. I can only do 56.

EDIT: Managed level 22 in 66 moves.

EDIT 3: All Passwords:
Spoiler:
1 - 780464
2 - 290299
3 - 918660
4 - 520967
5 - 028431
6 - 524383
7 - 189493
8 - 499707
9 - 074355
10 - 300590
11 - 291709
12 - 958640
13 - 448106
14 - 210362
15 - 098598
16 - 000241
17 - 683596
18 - 284933
19 - 119785
20 - 543019
21 - 728724
22 - 987319
23 - 293486
24 - 088198
25 - 250453
26 - 426329
27 - 660141
28 - 769721
29 - 691859
30 - 280351
31 - 138620
32 - 879021
33 - 614955
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby quintopia » Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:36 pm UTC

I'm stuck on stage 6. This is the quickest way I've figured out to do the beginning, but I need to shave off three steps and I'm almost positive there's no way to shave them off the ending:

Spoiler:
RRRDD,RDD,RRURD,LDLUL,UULUUURR


Help?

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Lothar » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:31 am UTC

Quintopia, for stage 6:

Spoiler:
Your 10th move is wrong.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby quintopia » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:36 am UTC

thanks, i was being dumb.

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby BlueNight » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:34 am UTC

Watch the YouTube videos "Bloxorz All Levels - 2040 Moves Total." He does do it in 2040, and it is replicable. However, with minor improvements on his paths on levels 2, 5, 10, 12, 22, and 32, and utilizing his improvements on 16 - 26, and especially 33, I believe I can reach 2036.

Exact move counts upcoming in a future post.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby quintopia » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:49 am UTC

he can be improved on 2,5,10,12,16.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Lothar » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:18 am UTC

Alright, I've finished all of the levels, and matched or beat all standing scores except for level 20, which I can't get in less than 56 moves. My totals:

Spoiler:
1 - 7 (7)
2 - 17 (24)
3 - 19 (43)
4 - 28 (71)
5 - 33 (104)
6 - 35 (139)
7 - 44 (183)
8 - 10 (193)
9 - 24 (217)
10 - 57 (274)
11 - 47 (321)
12 - 65 (386)
13 - 46 (432)
14 - 67 (499)
15 - 62 (561)
16 - 28 (589)
17 - 106 (695)
18 - 85 (780)
19 - 67 (847)
20 - 56 (903)
21 - 71 (974)
22 - 65 (1039)
23 - 75 (1114)
24 - 57 (1171)
25 - 55 (1226)

26 - 104 (1330)
27 - 71 (1401)
28 - 100 (1501)
29 - 104 (1605)
30 - 114 (1719)
31 - 91 (1810)
32 - 129 (1939)
33 - 65 (2004)


I'd love to know how to shave off five moves on level 20. It seems impossible to me.

EDIT: I've improved my score considerably, partially thanks to the video (for level 23). Scores above have been updated to reflect this. If level 20 is really possible in 51 moves, I can do it in under 2000 moves!

P.S. I also have written up my solutions if anyone wants them.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby BlueNight » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:20 am UTC

Lothar wrote:Alright, I've finished all of the levels, and matched or beat all standing scores except for level 20, which I can't get in less than 56 moves. ... I'd love to know how to shave off five moves on level 20. It seems impossible to me.

EDIT: I've improved my score considerably, partially thanks to the video (for level 23). Scores above have been updated to reflect this. If level 20 is really possible in 51 moves, I can do it in under 2000 moves!


Darn it! I'm sorry. I used Excel to track my overall move count and generate individual level counts, but that post was made before I realized I had a floating ten-move error somewhere in the list. As you see, the post was at 4AM Mountain time, and I had just spent two hours completing the game while tracking scores. I was tired.

I finished level 20 in 61 moves. I hope it hasn't been driving you TOO batty.

Edit: BTW, how did you beat Stage 16 in 28 moves? I can't seem to drop two moves.

Also, freeonlinegames.com has stolen and hacked the game, changing the name to Block'n'Roll (bad) and adding a high score table (good except it's hacked and stolen). They had the gall to retain the original credit screen, which mentions Damien and calls it Bloxorz.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Nitrodon » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:24 am UTC

Stage 16 hint:
Spoiler:
Use the top teleporter again after hitting the switches.

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby BlueNight » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:46 am UTC

Lothar wrote:Alright, I've finished all of the levels, and matched or beat all standing scores except for level 20, which I can't get in less than 56 moves. ... I'd love to know how to shave off five moves on level 20. It seems impossible to me.


I'd like your solution to level 20. Here's my best, 57 moves:

Spoiler:
DLDRDLUU, RUULLL, (either LDDRULLD or DLLURDDL), DDLD(O)URUU, RUURRRDLD(), -BAR- LURD -BAR-, LLLLDDDDDRRR(O)RD


Which group of moves can be done better? Is the improvement subtle or revolutionary?
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Nitrodon » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:31 am UTC

BlueNight wrote:
Lothar wrote:Alright, I've finished all of the levels, and matched or beat all standing scores except for level 20, which I can't get in less than 56 moves. ... I'd love to know how to shave off five moves on level 20. It seems impossible to me.


I'd like your solution to level 20. Here's my best, 57 moves:

Spoiler:
DLDRDLUU, RUULLL, (either LDDRULLD or DLLURDDL), DDLD(O)URUU, RUURRRDLD(), -BAR- LURD -BAR-, LLLLDDDDDRRR(O)RD


Which group of moves can be done better? Is the improvement subtle or revolutionary?

It's subtle.
Spoiler:
Move 42 is unnecessary, and can be removed without changing or adding any other moves.

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby BlueNight » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:27 am UTC

Spoiler:
I just found that cool twerk at the very start of level 29; I've now matched the group best of 2004.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby still-alive » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:14 am UTC

I thought I was good at this game, until humbled by xkcd. Got about 2/3 optimal, as per what you are saying.
Another flash game that is smiler and fun, if much simpler to optimize is silver sphere

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby craftyvtvez » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:47 am UTC

it's infuriatingly difficult. :oops:

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby BlueNight » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:52 am UTC

Nitrodon wrote:
BlueNight wrote:I'd like your solution to level 20. Here's my best, 57 moves
Which group of moves can be done better? Is the improvement subtle or revolutionary?

It's subtle.
Spoiler:
Move 42 is unnecessary, and can be removed without changing or adding any other moves.

For a while now I've been playing level 20 with 58 moves, because I had forgotten one additional unnecessary workaround. It took a while, but I got back down to 56.

Also, I finally got level 16 in 28 moves. It took me a while to figure out what you were saying, because I wasn't making a different move which you were. It's hard to believe that
Spoiler:
splitting it MORE after the bridges are up is more efficient than splitting it fewer times
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby undecim » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:29 pm UTC

No one has a python script to brute-force solutions yet? Though I suppose that's fun only once, whereas doing the levels on your own gives you a lot more time to play.

Still, I'm going to do it. I'll have to play the game again to see what I will have to implement.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Qaanol » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:19 pm UTC

Lothar wrote:Alright, I've finished all of the levels, and matched or beat all standing scores except for level 20, which I can't get in less than 56 moves. My totals:

Spoiler:
1 - 7 (7)
2 - 17 (24)
3 - 19 (43)
4 - 28 (71)
5 - 33 (104)
6 - 35 (139)
7 - 44 (183)
8 - 10 (193)
9 - 24 (217)
10 - 57 (274)
11 - 47 (321)
12 - 65 (386)
13 - 46 (432)
14 - 67 (499)
15 - 62 (561)
16 - 28 (589)
17 - 106 (695)
18 - 85 (780)
19 - 67 (847)
20 - 56 (903)
21 - 71 (974)
22 - 65 (1039)
23 - 75 (1114)
24 - 57 (1171)
25 - 55 (1226)

26 - 104 (1330)
27 - 71 (1401)
28 - 100 (1501)
29 - 104 (1605)
30 - 114 (1719)
31 - 91 (1810)
32 - 129 (1939)
33 - 65 (2004)


I'd love to know how to shave off five moves on level 20. It seems impossible to me.

EDIT: I've improved my score considerably, partially thanks to the video (for level 23). Scores above have been updated to reflect this. If level 20 is really possible in 51 moves, I can do it in under 2000 moves!

P.S. I also have written up my solutions if anyone wants them.

I’d like to see your solutions please.

Also, does anyone have a link to where I can download the original Bloxorz game (not one of these ripped-off/hacked versions)? The page in the original site gives a version that, when downloaded, refuses to play offline.
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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Lothar » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:31 am UTC

Qaanol wrote:I’d like to see your solutions please.


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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby more_people » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:23 pm UTC

I'm over Bloxorz, it got boring really quickly.

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Acueurodeeznutz » Thu May 23, 2019 11:31 am UTC

Lothar wrote:Alright, I've finished all of the levels, and matched or beat all standing scores except for level 20, which I can't get in less than 56 moves. My totals:

Spoiler:
1 - 7 (7)
2 - 17 (24)
3 - 19 (43)
4 - 28 (71)
5 - 33 (104)
6 - 35 (139)
7 - 44 (183)
8 - 10 (193)
9 - 24 (217)
10 - 57 (274)
11 - 47 (321)
12 - 65 (386)
13 - 46 (432)
14 - 67 (499)
15 - 62 (561)
16 - 28 (589)
17 - 106 (695)
18 - 85 (780)
19 - 67 (847)
20 - 56 (903)
21 - 71 (974)
22 - 65 (1039)
23 - 75 (1114)
24 - 57 (1171)
25 - 55 (1226)

26 - 104 (1330)
27 - 71 (1401)
28 - 100 (1501)
29 - 104 (1605)
30 - 114 (1719)
31 - 91 (1810)
32 - 129 (1939)
33 - 65 (2004)


I'd love to know how to shave off five moves on level 20. It seems impossible to me.

EDIT: I've improved my score considerably, partially thanks to the video (for level 23). Scores above have been updated to reflect this. If level 20 is really possible in 51 moves, I can do it in under 2000 moves!

P.S. I also have written up my solutions if anyone wants them.



I know this is years old. I'm on track except for level 16 which I can complete in 30 not 28 moves. I would love to see your solution.

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Acueurodeeznutz » Thu May 23, 2019 10:09 pm UTC

Level 16 28 moves
R4,S,R,D,S,R,U,S,R,L3,R4,L5,D,S,R,U,S,R4

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Re: Bloxorz optimal path

Postby Acueurodeeznutz » Wed May 29, 2019 1:09 am UTC

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