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Find the next number.

Postby jjane » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:45 pm UTC

7, 4, 10, 26, 53, 92, 144,____

please explain how you arrived at your answer.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby Puck » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:59 pm UTC

Sorry, OEIS says that those numbers don't exist in that order.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby tricky77puzzle » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:32 pm UTC

Puck wrote:Sorry, OEIS says that those numbers don't exist in that order.


Then the whole point is to try and find that order that they belong in.

Let's see, 7, 4, 10...

Might it be some quadratic function?

There's also:

Spoiler:
7 + 4 - 1 = 10
4 + 10 + 12 = 26
26 + 26 + 1 = 53
26 + 53 + 23 = 92
53 + 92 - 1 = 144

So maybe 92 + 144 + 34 is the next term, or 270.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby ++$_ » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:46 pm UTC

I know what the next number is. I obtained my answer using finite differences.

Is this a homework problem?
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby Ratio » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:50 pm UTC

Show our workings? You're making us do your homework? Tsk Tsk! :wink:
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby Lycur » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:02 pm UTC

tricky77puzzle wrote:4 + 10 + 10 = 26


O RLY?
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby tricky77puzzle » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:05 pm UTC

Lycur wrote:
tricky77puzzle wrote:4 + 10 + 10 = 26


O RLY?


okay, damn. I, uh... mae a miscalculation.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby thc » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:50 am UTC

Spoiler:
The answer is 210. Take differences between terms.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby tricky77puzzle » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:41 am UTC

thc wrote:
Spoiler:
The answer is 210. Take differences between terms.


Uh huh. That's a very big spoiler. Thanks a lot... so It was a quadratic function!
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby ++$_ » Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:21 am UTC

tricky77puzzle wrote:
thc wrote:
Spoiler:
The answer is 210. Take differences between terms.

Uh huh. That's a very big spoiler. Thanks a lot... so It was a quadratic function!

Spoiler:
Looks more like a cubic to me, but that's the answer I got as well.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby tricky77puzzle » Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:10 pm UTC

++$_ wrote:
tricky77puzzle wrote:
thc wrote:
Spoiler:
The answer is 210. Take differences between terms.

Uh huh. That's a very big spoiler. Thanks a lot... so It was a quadratic function!

Spoiler:
Looks more like a cubic to me, but that's the answer I got as well.


If it were cubic, it wouldn't go down, then up, unless it were a cubic plus some linear term.

The reason it's... oh, wait, yes, it is a cubic. I am dumb...
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby fransisco4 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:23 am UTC

I don't get it. Care to explain?
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby douglasm » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:31 am UTC

fransisco4 wrote:I don't get it. Care to explain?

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Take the difference between each consecutive number in the sequence. You get -3, 6, 16, 27, 39, 52. Now do it again with that sequence to get 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. The pattern there should be rather obvious. 52+14 = 66, so the next term in the original sequence is 144+66 = 210.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby qinwamascot » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:42 pm UTC

It really could be anything. There's no way to know what formula we're talking about from finitely many terms. The cubic one may seem simpler, but that doesn't make it any more correct.

the right answer is, of course, 42
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby tricky77puzzle » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:43 am UTC

qinwamascot wrote:It really could be anything. There's no way to know what formula we're talking about from finitely many terms. The cubic one may seem simpler, but that doesn't make it any more correct.

the right answer is, of course, 42


Really, it could be anything.

I could define f(x) as the function that returns:

f(x|x<1) = f(x + 1) - 2(f(x + 2))
f(1) = 7
f(2) = 4
f(3) = 10
f(4) = 26
f(5) = 53
f(6) = 92
f(7) = 144
f(8) = 42
f(x|x>8) = 42
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby Office_Shredder » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:48 am UTC

I'm pretty sure this discussion was already held
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby jestingrabbit » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:58 am UTC

Office_Shredder wrote:I'm pretty sure this discussion was already held


Yeah. It was in maths. Gotta say I side with Token on this one.

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It irritates ME that people think "it could be anything" is a clever answer.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby jjane » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:29 pm UTC

for the record, it wasn't my homework. i'm not even in school right now.


(it was my MOM's homework)


thanks, dudes.
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Re: Find the next number.

Postby ARP » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:52 pm UTC

{7, 4, 10, 26, 53, 92, 144, 210, 291, 388, 502, 634, 785, 956, 1148, 1362, 1599, 1860, 2146, 2458, 2797, 3164, 3560, 3986, 4443, 4932, 5454, 6010, 6601, 7228, 7892, 8594}

a(n)=1/6*(108 - 88*n + 21*n^2 + n^3)
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