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Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby Zohar » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:11 pm UTC

Hi, I want to get a gaming laptop. I'd like to spend no more than 1200 dollars. I was recommended the Lenovo y50 with i4700 processor for 1150$ and it looks good, except for the screen. It's a touch screen and I'm not going to use it (I will probably connect to an external display). Is there something without touch at the same price that's more powerful, or same capabilities but a lower price? Thanks for your advice!
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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby KnightExemplar » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:28 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:Hi, I want to get a gaming laptop. I'd like to spend no more than 1200 dollars. I was recommended the Lenovo y50 with i4700 processor for 1150$ and it looks good, except for the screen. It's a touch screen and I'm not going to use it (I will probably connect to an external display). Is there something without touch at the same price that's more powerful, or same capabilities but a lower price? Thanks for your advice!


http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7358-cle ... figure=yes

Its like the Lenovo, except with many many more customization options. The equivalent system (1TB Hybrid Drive, Windows 8.1, +Intel AC Wireless 2x2) costs $1115 right now. For $15 more, you can upgrade to the 256GB Crucial MX100 Series SSD...

So for $1130 (Xotic has free shipping right now), you're getting a system with a 256GB SSD, which will kick a lot more ass than a hybrid drive. You lose out on the touchscreen, but it sounds like you don't care about that. You might want the 2x4 GB for $10 more (over the 1x8GB. Dual-channel improves memory performance)
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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby Zohar » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:04 pm UTC

I'm not sure how much I like the idea of a customizable laptop... I'll definitely look into it, though. Thanks. Any other ideas?
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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby KnightExemplar » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:25 pm UTC

I always have to make sure...

You know an excellent desktop can be made for several hundred dollars cheaper. Are you sure you want a laptop? Getting rid of the thermal limitations of a laptop enables you to choose parts that give you better performance at a lower price.

Even if you spend $1200+, your laptop will easily be slower than a $850 desktop. This $850 Desktop can have a i5 + Radeon R9 270X... which will be twice as powerful than your $1200 laptop. With a decent configuration, you can probably build a desktop as strong as that laptop for only $600.

The gaming laptop won't even have much battery life due to the GPU and powerful CPU you're putting in. (Maybe 4 hours with regular use, and 1 hour while you're gaming). So you're still going to be reliant on a power outlet.
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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby Zohar » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:15 pm UTC

KnightExemplar wrote:I always have to make sure...

You know an excellent desktop can be made for several hundred dollars cheaper. Are you sure you want a laptop? Getting rid of the thermal limitations of a laptop enables you to choose parts that give you better performance at a lower price.

Even if you spend $1200+, your laptop will easily be slower than a $850 desktop. This $850 Desktop can have a i5 + Radeon R9 270X... which will be twice as powerful than your $1200 laptop. With a decent configuration, you can probably build a desktop as strong as that laptop for only $600.

The gaming laptop won't even have much battery life due to the GPU and powerful CPU you're putting in. (Maybe 4 hours with regular use, and 1 hour while you're gaming). So you're still going to be reliant on a power outlet.

I understand that :) I just moved countries and got rid of my previous desktop while I was at it. I don't expect to move my laptop around the city that much, but I'd like to be able to have it with me when I visit my family back home, or go visit my boyfriend's family. So while this computer will be rather stationary, it will still have to move around sometimes. That's why I'd much rather have a laptop. It's a bit of a compromise, I know.
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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby stickler » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:57 pm UTC

Get KnightExemplar's $850 desktop and get a $350 laptop?

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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby KnightExemplar » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:22 pm UTC

Sounds good. I just want to make sure you've thought out the choice. It does sound like the right use-case for a gaming laptop.

stickler wrote:Get KnightExemplar's $850 desktop and get a $350 laptop?


City folk don't have as much room for stuff. When you move into an apartment, you throw away so much... and learn the value of "dense" objects that don't take up much space. It sounds like Zohar is willing to pay the ~$400 and performance penalty as a tradeoff... and anyone who has lived in smaller quarters knows how valuable space is.

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The Sager / Clevo laptop from Xotic is honestly the best buy I could find. I can't think of any $1150 laptop with a mid-level mobile graphics card (Nvidia 860M), i7-Quad Core, a solid state drive, and 1080p screen. You just gotta configure it right, that's all.
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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby Zamfir » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:00 pm UTC

Just a bit more pushback on that: you can build a compact (even portable) desktops nowadays, even as a gaming rig. If you stay away from the very biggest graphics cards, you can pack quite a system in a sugo 05 case measuring 220x170x270mm. If you are going to use an external monitor anyway, such a box tucked away in a corner might well be more space efficient than a large laptop lying on a desk with cables sticking into from all sides.

I personally get itches from "gaming laptops", though your milage may vary. It's not just the lower value for money at the moment of buying. There's also the upgrade path: a few hundred dollars once in a few years can rejuvenate a desktop gaming rig, not so much for a laptop. And laptops are more vulnerable. I am much more comfortable lugging 400 dollars around than 1200, especially if that 1200 went to fast hardware, not to high-quality robustness.

So, 2 machines really could be the better compromise. You might have a better gaming machine and a more portable laptop right from the start, plus more flexibility for the future, and spend less money.


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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby poochyena » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:58 am UTC

This is the laptop i got
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GE60-2OE-003U ... 00CU9GKTO/
(I bought it on newegg, but its no longer avaliable there, the GE70 is though.)

It runs all games fine.

On very demanding games, it runs very hot, you will need to purchase a cooling pad if you intended to play very intense games frequently.

So, my recommendation is to get an MSI brand laptop, and look for deals, such as rebates. I got around $150 off of this laptop during a small sale and rebate.

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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby david.windsor » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:58 pm UTC

My one recomendation is NVIDIA GTX M9XX series GPU, very low power requirements, very low heat output. Should get longer gaming time with them, but I don't have any numbers on that.
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Re: Buying a gaming laptop, recommendations requested

Postby roflwaffle » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:39 pm UTC

I'm seeing the y50 with an i7 refurbished for ~$750 on ebay, which seems like a good deal. I was going to suggest a piecemeal build of a refurb mobile workstation, but at that price I'd just get the newer laptop. With that said, I agree with Zamfir. Desktops are great for gaming rigs. You can get something twice as fast as the y50 for half the cost, and it's easy/inexpensive to upgrade. There are also programs for remote gaming (eg kainey), but they still require a decent connection for most games.


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