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External hard drive

Postby Spoffin » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:21 pm UTC

I was thinking of getting one of these (clicky)

I have a laptop, a desktop (older), which has a USB external 320 gig seagate hard drive. I have network access to the seagate from the laptop, but only when the desktop is on (which it is most of the time, but still). I'm thinking network HD rather than another USB because a) access, from laptop when the desktop isn't on, and faster transfer from both computers, and b) I'm out of USB slots on my desktop, and would have to install more.

Does the above linked thing look like what I ought to be getting? Or should I get a different brand/model/product? I think there's a maxtor version for fractionally less at PC world (£140 instead of £150 or something), but when I was getting the Seagate I was recommended by a friend to avoid maxtor on reliability grounds.
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Re: External hard drive

Postby miles01110 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:31 pm UTC

Say NO to Maxtor.

Stick with WD and Seagate.

edit: oops, didn't see the "network drive" requirement.

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Re: External hard drive

Postby hipp5 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:38 pm UTC

I think there's going to be someone to say 'that brand sucks' for every brand of hdd. I personally have had a very good time with Maxtor and a shitty time with WD. All hdds fail in the end and it just happens that the first hdd people own is the one they get in their mind to hate when it fails. IIRC Seagate DOES have good warranties, but then who generally claims their hdd warranty when it's so cheap just to get a new one.

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Re: External hard drive

Postby mosc » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:00 pm UTC

hipp5 wrote:I think there's going to be someone to say 'that brand sucks' for every brand of hdd. I personally have had a very good time with Maxtor and a shitty time with WD. All hdds fail in the end and it just happens that the first hdd people own is the one they get in their mind to hate when it fails. IIRC Seagate DOES have good warranties, but then who generally claims their hdd warranty when it's so cheap just to get a new one.

I have purchased, for myself and others, approximately 1000 hard drives over the past 10 years. I had the best luck with Maxtor and the worst luck with that stupid IBM brand... (which is why it's dead). WD and Seagate are decent enough. Maxtor is the one I am most comfortable with but a few bucks sways me. They're not that different.

EDIT: none of those were external drives however. If one has a better interface than the other I'm not going to play expert.
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Re: External hard drive

Postby b.i.o » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:51 pm UTC

Seagate owns Maxtor now...so I believe Maxtor/Seagate drives are pretty functionally identical.

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Re: External hard drive

Postby SlyReaper » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:17 pm UTC

I got scared a few weeks back when I visited a forum where people were ranting about their Maxtor HDDs breaking down. I have a Maxtor HDD and now I'm paranoid it's going to break down. :shock:
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Re: External hard drive

Postby Spoffin » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:16 am UTC

They didn't have any Seagate HDs within my specs in the shop I went to. Otherwise I wouldn't really need to ask about this WD one.
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Re: External hard drive

Postby MoonBuggy » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:24 am UTC

I'm using three WD My Book drives (although not the networked ones) and they haven't caused me any problems at all. Bought them purely on the basis that they were the cheapest with a FireWire interface when I was looking, and they do the job perfectly well. I can't say anything about the bundled software or any features other than "it's a hard drive" on the basis that I always just wipe them and use alternate backup software.

Not exactly comprehensive evidence, but hey. They only thing I might point out is that I find them a little loud when reading/writing.
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Re: External hard drive

Postby enk » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:44 am UTC

I have a WD My Book Essential and a WD Elements.

The plastic of the My Book seems a little low quality to me and has started resonating when it seeks, that's why I got the Elements instead when I needed one more. The resonating was only after carrying it around for some time though, so I guess that doesn't matter much if yours is going stationary. It was a little noisy from the beginning though. I say "though" too much.

They both spin down after being idle for 10 minutes or so. Whether you like that is a matter of personal preference. I hope the World Edition doesn't do it when it's network accessible and all. I'd just make sure to find out if I was to buy another My Book.
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Re: External hard drive

Postby dukederek » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:14 pm UTC

Further circumstancial evidence:

I have had 5 (main) hard drives. The only one to fail has been a Maxtor, it did it without warning and it's contents are absolutely inaccessible. At least when the WD one did a bad thing I retrieved everything exept for (randomly) the Star Wars OST (out of about 200GB of data...). I now have 2 Seagates and a WD and they are fine.

are Seagate not using Maxtor as their 'budget brand'? Whatever, where I'm concerned it's far too much of a ball ache to save £10 on a hard drive if theres more of a chance of it failing and me having to pick up the pieces (figuratively and literally)

Note: they were all internal, I was just adding to the Maxtor debate. Maybe Maxtor make LIFE AFFIRMINGLY GREAT external hard drives...

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Re: External hard drive

Postby niko7865 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:48 pm UTC

I have 7 WD hard drives which have been on for the past 2 years without a problem, and 1 Seagate hard drive that has been on since 2005 and it still works just fine too, although it is a little louder than the WDs.
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Re: External hard drive

Postby b.i.o » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:02 am UTC

dukederek wrote:are Seagate not using Maxtor as their 'budget brand'? Whatever, where I'm concerned it's far too much of a ball ache to save £10 on a hard drive if theres more of a chance of it failing and me having to pick up the pieces (figuratively and literally)


There no longer is. And the hard drives Seagate sells today under the Maxtor brand are primarily external.

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Re: External hard drive

Postby Blubb3r3ng3l » Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:17 am UTC

Ok guys, did a search before starting a new thread about this, hope you can help.


Completely illiterate computer guy here. I'm running low on space on my computer, and have parted with everything I'm willing to part with (music and photos... and some well-hidden porn are about the only things on here now). My computer is, for the most part, 4 years old and running swimmingly (HP Pavilion zv6000 series, circa 2004). I don't have USB 2.0, and am really looking for an external. I'm looking for at least 500 (forget the units... sorry), and would like to keep the costs under 120. I don't care about flashing lights and bells and whistles, I just want something built like a tank that I can depend on NOT to crash when my computer does (which I think will happen within the year, as 'Ole Bessy is getting ancient by computer standards).

What can you suggest to me? I have zero knowledge of brands, and zero preference to size, looks, or, well, anything except reliability, and a cost hopefully under 120. If tech has gone to more than 500 for ~120 bucks by now, please link to me, as these suggestions to me, from you, will basically turn into my 'Santa's Wishlist' for the year (along with a nice chef's knife)

Thanks for your help, O-Tech-Savvy Ones.
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Re: External hard drive

Postby BumpInTheNight » Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:43 am UTC

As a general concept, I'd look at the offerings here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 0-%20750GB

Specifically, I'd probably start with this guy as the benchmark: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822136295

I understand the lack of USB 2.0, but is that an OS limitation (Pre-SP1 XP or something) or some how did you end up with the one computer release post 2002 without USB 2.0 capability?

(I'm drunk, hah! But aye this is how I'd start lookin)

ED: one beer later, do you have a firewire port though? That's be sveeter.

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Re: External hard drive

Postby mosc » Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:45 am UTC

I own one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822216035

No complaints, Western Digital Guts. $70 is a lot less than $120

Has external SATA if you ever get serious about the connection but also has USB for the times where you don't care. The light on the front is subtle and fun. Very solid little sucker. They use the case as a heatsinc though so it does get warm. Nothing dangerous though. The price you pay for silence.
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