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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Grop » Mon May 31, 2010 11:36 am UTC

I have some calvados every once in a while. I generally go for cheap stuff, it's always of decent quality. I do the same with armagnac.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby KallistiEngel » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:12 pm UTC

So, I've been working in housekeeping at a large university the past week (dining workers who aren't needed during the summer can move to housekeeping for a couple weeks). In the very last room I cleaned on my very last day, the people had left a lot of stuff. One of those things was a bottle of Bowmore. Another member of the group I was cleaning it with claimed the bottle, but I convinced her to give me some of it. Unfortunately all I had to carry liquids in was a coffee travel mug. So when I got home, I transferred it to my flask. So now I have half a flask of Bowmore. Hooray for free Scotch?

There was also a bottle of Triple Sec, but I have no use for that.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Amarantha » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:43 am UTC

Free Bowmore is the best kind :)

And why is it always Bowmore that's free. My brother and I have both been the fortunate recipients of free Bowmore, in completely different scenarios.

Also, sheol and I are going to a whisky tasting tomorrow, with the Scotch Malt Whisky Society. Mmmmm, single-cask...

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Dream » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:34 pm UTC

I bought my parents Bowmore once, and they didn't like it so I got "free" Bowmore.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Coffee » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:36 pm UTC

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby el_loco_avs » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:15 pm UTC

Managed to find a cheapish bottle of Chivas Regal 12yr :mrgreen:
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Mister_Penguin » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:43 am UTC

Mr. Mack wrote:Singleton of Glendullan:
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Appearance
Darker than pure gold.

Aroma
Honey sweetness, floral.
Maybe some smoke, leather, and vanilla.
There's also some toasted nuts and spice. Kind of like a milder, smoother version of rye.

Taste
Sweet honey flavor with spice, earthiness and maybe leather.
A bit of wood and some fruitiness, although I can't identify what kind of fruit.
I'm pretty sure I'm getting smoke.
Hint of citrus, possibly orange.
Peppery finish.

Texture
Medium/light body and a generally mild burn. I'm thinking of it as heavier than The Glenlivet and lighter than Tomatin.

Objectively speaking, this is probably the best single malt Scotch I've ever heard. Now to be fair, it sort of had a bit of a rye-heavy bourbon thing going on, so it might not be a good choice for people who hate bourbon.


I got a bottle of Singleton as a gift a few months back. It really is fantastic, and I recommend it to anyone who's interested in single-malt scotch. To me, the fruitiness is more of a cucumberish tang. Then again, I'm slightly odd.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Ventanator » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:51 am UTC

Where can you buy liquor online?

I live in a pretty remote area, so it takes almost an hour to drive to even the most backwoods of a store. Even once I'm there, if it isn't beer, they don't have it. I saw somewhere people mentioning buying it online, but a quick google doesn't reveal a ton of sites that look incredibly legitimate. Which ones are? I need one that can ship to my house or PO Box, but preferably my house (FedEx and UPS both manage to make it out here).

And how do they check my ID? I assume they don't just sell it all willy nilly like, right?

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Thesh » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:28 pm UTC

Ventanator wrote:Where can you buy liquor online?


I'm assuming you are in the US, but it depends on where in the US you live. A popular place is http://www.binnys.com/ and there are some states they can't ship to:

http://www.binnys.com/policies/

It is Binny's policy not to ship to certain states where direct shipment is prohibited and therefore, our web site will not let you place an order for shipment to Virginia, Michigan, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, North Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Washington, West Virginia and other states.


Ventanator wrote:And how do they check my ID? I assume they don't just sell it all willy nilly like, right?


The shipping company requires an adult signature, so you must be home when it is delivered (or you can have it delivered to your work).
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby ArgonV » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:19 pm UTC

Mister_Penguin wrote:
I got a bottle of Singleton as a gift a few months back. It really is fantastic, and I recommend it to anyone who's interested in single-malt scotch. To me, the fruitiness is more of a cucumberish tang. Then again, I'm slightly odd.


So what Singleton are we talking here? The Glenduallan one or the Glen Ord one? Or are they one and the same? 'Cause I picked up a bottle of Glen Ord singleton at the distillery and the bottle looks identical to this one, safe for the text.

And yes, it's good.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby TheSkyMovesSideways » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:33 am UTC

So I want to try Rye Whiskey.

My parents are in the US at the moment, so I could get them to bring me back a bottle, which is a good option considering that rye is difficult to come by in Australia, and when you can find it it's either going to be Jim Beam or something expensive. The question is, what should I try? Something readily available in San Francisco, or better yet in duty free stores at SFO would be ideal, and I'm definitely looking for something good enough to drink neat.

Quick research indicates that I might be able to get Sazerac for the cost of a bottle of Maker's Mark here, or Sazerac 18 for only a little more than what regular Sazerac costs here (on the rare occasions that it's available)! So, yeah, leaning towards Sazerac (regular, not 18 year old), but would like to hear others' recommendations. Happy to spend up to $50-60USD.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Amarantha » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:39 am UTC

I've tried maybe half a dozen ryes at most. The only one I've liked better than Sazerac was Old Potrero, but that's in a whole nother price range. So ya, I'd go Sazerac if I were you. But someone with more rye experience might have a better suggestion.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Azrael » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:20 pm UTC

Rittenhouse, hands down.

Finding it could be challenging, and almost certainly not possible in an airport duty free shop. Both Sazeracs are great. Old Overholt is surprisingly good for $12 and it often used by legitimate mixologists in reputable places that know what they're doing, but isn't going to knock your socks off when drunk straight. Jim Beam and Wild Turkey both make Rye's under their own names, and neither are worth buying. Beam also makes (ri)1 which is quite good, but not worth the price tag. Similarly, Wild Turkey makes Russel Reserve Rye, which isn't bad but takes distinctly like ... Wild Turkey to me.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Coffee » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:33 pm UTC

I've finally cadjoled a liquor store owner into acquiring some Edradour for me. Turns out to have worked pretty well for him too as he sold two cases within a week of getting it.

They only make, I think, three barrels a day (or was it a week) and it's expensive, but it's assuredly worth it. If you can find it, get it.


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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby KallistiEngel » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:51 am UTC

Azrael wrote:Rittenhouse, hands down.

Finding it could be challenging, and almost certainly not possible in an airport duty free shop. Both Sazeracs are great. Old Overholt is surprisingly good for $12 and it often used by legitimate mixologists in reputable places that know what they're doing, but isn't going to knock your socks off when drunk straight. Jim Beam and Wild Turkey both make Rye's under their own names, and neither are worth buying. Beam also makes (ri)1 which is quite good, but not worth the price tag. Similarly, Wild Turkey makes Russel Reserve Rye, which isn't bad but takes distinctly like ... Wild Turkey to me.

Even if it was possible in a duty free, you can't have more than a 3 oz. bottle in your carry-on and you give them your checked luggage before you enter the "secure area" where the duty free stores are. Yeah, America is shitty in that department.

I'd say just have them go to a liquor store in the States, buy a bottle of whatever you decide to get, and have them put it in their checked luggage.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby hendusoone » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:41 am UTC

KallistiEngel wrote:Even if it was possible in a duty free, you can't have more than a 3 oz. bottle in your carry-on and you give them your checked luggage before you enter the "secure area" where the duty free stores are. Yeah, America is shitty in that department
That 3oz rule only applies to things that are in your bag before you go through security. As long as they don't have to go through additional security checkpoints, they can carry as much duty free liquor as they want in their carry-on.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Amarantha » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:13 am UTC

Azrael wrote:Rittenhouse, hands down.
Fark, I knew I was forgetting one! Ya, Rittenhouse seconded (or thirded, or whatever all those ninjas made it), as well as the Sazerac.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby KallistiEngel » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:42 am UTC

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KallistiEngel wrote:Even if it was possible in a duty free, you can't have more than a 3 oz. bottle in your carry-on and you give them your checked luggage before you enter the "secure area" where the duty free stores are. Yeah, America is shitty in that department
That 3oz rule only applies to things that are in your bag before you go through security. As long as they don't have to go through additional security checkpoints, they can carry as much duty free liquor as they want in their carry-on.

Either way, I haven't seen liquor in the American duty-frees and I know in Athens they didn't have the security checkpoints until you went to the boarding area, which is after you've left the secure area with the duty-free shops. I'm just saying that a) you'll likely have a better selection outside of an airport and b) that you'll be certain it makes it through security buying elsewhere.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Amarantha » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:00 pm UTC

Oh, and regarding Duty Free, you can't. Australia will no longer allow liquids over 100ml to enter the country in hand luggage, even the specially-sealed DF ones. We tried to buy some awesome stuff at Heathrow, and they were like, "We'd love to sell it to you, but Australia won't let you keep it." And then we were late getting to Sydney and didn't even have time to go to the crappy DF there before our connecting flight to Melbourne, and the Govt can ggf for costing us awesome liquor. *end rant*

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby KallistiEngel » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:33 am UTC

TheSkyMovesSideways wrote:So I want to try Rye Whiskey.

One more question. Is bourbon more common in Australia than rye? Because if you haven't had it before, bourbon's at least worth trying.
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Postby TheSkyMovesSideways » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:16 am UTC

Amarantha wrote:Oh, and regarding Duty Free, you can't. Australia will no longer allow liquids over 100ml to enter the country in hand luggage, even the specially-sealed DF ones.

Noooooo, when did that happen? If we can't get cheap hooch, the terrorists have won. :(

KallistiEngel wrote:One more question. Is bourbon more common in Australia than rye? Because if you haven't had it before, bourbon's at least worth trying.

Definitely. I've currently got bottles of Maker's Mark and Jack Daniel's Silver Select (not Bourbon, I know, and before someone asks, it's a 100-proof, export only version of Single Barrel). Definitely like them, whereas I find I only like some varieties of Scotch (typically the less peaty ones). I also enjoy Irish whiskey, of which a reasonable range is available in Australia, though little in the way of single malt and pure pot still.

The only rye I recall seeing here outside of specialist stores is Jim Beam. As far as American whiskey goes, brands commonly found here include Beam, Cougar, McKenna, Wild Turkey, Slate, Bulleit, Blanton's, and Maker's Mark.
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Postby Thesh » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:31 pm UTC

I'm not familiar with everything on that list, but pick up a bottle of that Blanton's if you haven't already. Very good stuff. Most whiskies from Buffalo Trace are pretty good.
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Postby Mr. Mack » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:06 pm UTC

You might want to give Bulleit a shot. It's a very rye heavy bourbon, so it has the pronounced spicy flavor associated with rye.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Jacque » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:15 am UTC

Just bought yet another bottle of the Laphroaig Quarter Cask. It's just so damn delicious; I seem to be going back to it nearly every other bottle of scotch.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby KallistiEngel » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:08 am UTC

My parents gave me $100 to "get myself something nice" for my birthday. So I looked around my local liquor store for a while and found a Scotch that was rated 95.5/100 for about $50 (they have reviews of liquors throughout the store by various professional reviewers near the products). What I got was Curiositas by the BenRiach (10 year). It's pretty damn palatable and better than any other 10 year I've had (and a few 12 years). The color is a bit off, it's much lighter than the golden-amber I'm so accustomed to. But I'll let it slide because it certainly makes up for it in taste. Extra peaty, but very smooth. I'd definitely recommend it.

And here I was almost dissuaded from buying it due to the lack of a rich color....
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Grop » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:33 am UTC

Grop wrote:Yay for homemade stuff!

This summer I made a homemade flavoured rum. <- (I am not very sure of the English for that, I'm used to calling it "rhum arrangé". It is rum where you added fruits and spices and stuff, and that aged for a while. Unlike a punch, it is mostly rum, almost undiluted.)

So, this one was mostly about rum, ginger and honey.

I took two one-liter bottles of Charette (an AOC rum from la Réunion - 49°), partially emptied* them, and added:
- many spices
- one crushed lemon
- two vanilla beans
- much ginger (something probably the size of my fist, that I cut into pieces)
- some unremembered quantity of honey, maybe ~700g.

* I had to drink the excess rum volume of said ingredients.

The thing aged for three months in a closet (I tasted it once with a friend and adjusted the ingredients).

We drank one bottle this week, and it met quite a frank success. The thing is quite sweet (although two youngish, unexperienced drinkers disagreed on this).

I plan to make other similar stuff. Also, a friend of mine makes really good stuff with fruit brandy and basil.


Just in case you guys are curious, I did the same in the Spring, and two other bottles lately (which are waiting for aging).

So it seems every time I used ~300g of ginger, and something like 400-800g of honey. And now I skip the vanilla, which is expensive (in this place) and not really noticeable in the whole stuff.

Also, having the extra rum with the extra honey is not too bad :).

(I also made something good with rum and basil, but I don't remember how I did this, so no recipe for now :P).

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Postby Amarantha » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:18 am UTC

KallistiEngel wrote:The color is a bit off, it's much lighter than the golden-amber I'm so accustomed to. But I'll let it slide because it certainly makes up for it in taste. Extra peaty, but very smooth. I'd definitely recommend it.

And here I was almost dissuaded from buying it due to the lack of a rich color....
Most of the colour in whisky comes from added caramel. You get a bit of natural colour from the charring, bourbon etc in the barrel, but not as much as you'd think. Especially inna 10yo.

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Postby Mr. Mack » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:55 pm UTC

Hey everyone, I had a thought pertaining to booze and SCIENCE!

While wandering about a local liquor store I noticed that when disturbed (such as by turning upside down), cheaper liquor seemed to produce more bubbles than more expensive liquor. I've heard somewhere that you can get a general idea as to the purity of the water by how many bubbles it forms when shaken. I believe the idea is that impurities create nucleation points that allow for the formation of bubbles. I only really observed the idea with vodka, but I imagine it might also work with other clear spirits. Darker spirits I'm not so sure about.

Does anyone else think this hypothesis seems reasonable?

Amarantha wrote:Most of the colour in whisky comes from added caramel. You get a bit of natural colour from the charring, bourbon etc in the barrel, but not as much as you'd think. Especially inna 10yo.

A trick to figuring out whether or not your Scotch contains coloring is to go online and check to see if it's kosher. Many of the dyes used in the liquor are non-kosher, so anything certified kosher is probably free of coloring.

The two problems with this system are that not all liquors have been checked to see if they're kosher and that it's extremely rare for booze to have a parve symbol on it even if it is kosher. Although far from perfect, this is the only system I know of at the moment for knowing such a thing.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

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KallistiEngel wrote:The color is a bit off, it's much lighter than the golden-amber I'm so accustomed to. But I'll let it slide because it certainly makes up for it in taste. Extra peaty, but very smooth. I'd definitely recommend it.

And here I was almost dissuaded from buying it due to the lack of a rich color....
Most of the colour in whisky comes from added caramel. You get a bit of natural colour from the charring, bourbon etc in the barrel, but not as much as you'd think. Especially inna 10yo.

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Postby TheSkyMovesSideways » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:10 am UTC

Azrael wrote:Rittenhouse, hands down.

I went to two bars last night and amazingly both of them had Rittenhouse!

I like it. It seemed a bit more neutral to me than Bourbon, lacking the distinctive sweet corn taste of that, in the same sense that Irish whiskey could be considered similar to Scotch minus the peat. Didn't really get the increased complexity often cited of rye, but that's probably just my naive palate talking. I could definitely drink more of it.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Dark567 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:40 am UTC

I agree with the posts a few pages back about the awesomeness of Belvenie. Really any Speyside scotch is awesome generally. I can't stand Rye or Bourbon, I would rather have a Canadian or Irish whiskey any day, and scotch is obviously best.

I also drink a lot of vodka and gin.

As mentioned a page ago New Amsterdam is hands down the best bang for the buck. Quintessential or Pinnacle are great if I want to spend a little more. I drink Svedka like its water, its cheaper than Smirnoff and better. If I want something better I go from anywhere from Vox and Kettle One, which are both very good, to Hanger One, which is awesome, to Jean-Marc XO, which is astonishing.
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Postby TheAmazingRando » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:50 am UTC

Ever try Sobieski? It's my go-to cheap vodka, quickly becoming my go-to cheap liquor in general, since after a shot or two it practically tastes like water.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby bigglesworth » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:05 am UTC

As to whisky, quick question about brands:

I enjoy drinking Jack Daniels mixed with (a little more than a dash of) cola. It's the flavour with the cola, I wouldn't want to drink it on its own.

But what's a cheaper alternative that has a similar taste when mixed with cola? Is there one?
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Azrael » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:45 am UTC

Jim Beam white label, maybe Wild Turkey. Old Overholt is rye (and cheap) so it might taste a little different, but when the main question is what can I put in my Coke to make it alcoholic and still taste like Coke...

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Postby Dark567 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:06 pm UTC

Azrael wrote:Jim Beam white label, maybe Wild Turkey. Old Overholt is rye (and cheap) so it might taste a little different, but when the main question is what can I put in my Coke to make it alcoholic and still taste like Coke...

Everclear.
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Postby Azrael » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:26 pm UTC

Most [Liquor] & Coke drinks exist because people like Coke. I guess if you weren't looking for a super-strong drink, you could add enough everclear to get the desired content before you got gross, watery tasting Coke. But it could be a difficult line to balance when the liquor isn't bringing any flavor to the table.

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Azrael wrote:Most [Liquor] & Coke drinks exist because people like Coke. I guess if you weren't looking for a super-strong drink, you could add enough everclear to get the desired content before you got gross, watery tasting Coke. But it could be a difficult line to balance when the liquor isn't bringing any flavor to the table.


If you use everclear, you generally mix a lot less in, so I don't think you would have to worry about watering it down too much. I mean if you make a normal drink 1/2 Liquor, 1/2 Coke, you would probably scale that to 1/3 Everclear, 2/3 Coke at the minimum. I mean the shit has 2.5 times the alcohol as normal liquor, you don't need a lot for a really strong drink.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Azrael » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:46 pm UTC

Better yet, buy yourself a soda fountain and dial back the carbonated water a bit.

Admittedly, it's a tad impractical for a night out on the town.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby bigglesworth » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:50 pm UTC

Jim Beam fluctuates more or less expensive than JD depending on shop offers here, just one of those things I suppose.

Anyone tried Buffalo Trace? That's the cheapest at the pub, but I'm not sure if it's the same in the shop, or whether it'll be a similar taste to JD when I mix it with cola. It's cheap enough that I might just try it next time I'm at the pub...
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Rackum » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:17 pm UTC

Mr. Mack wrote:Hey everyone, I had a thought pertaining to booze and SCIENCE!

While wandering about a local liquor store I noticed that when disturbed (such as by turning upside down), cheaper liquor seemed to produce more bubbles than more expensive liquor. I've heard somewhere that you can get a general idea as to the purity of the water by how many bubbles it forms when shaken. I believe the idea is that impurities create nucleation points that allow for the formation of bubbles. I only really observed the idea with vodka, but I imagine it might also work with other clear spirits. Darker spirits I'm not so sure about.

Does anyone else think this hypothesis seems reasonable?


The bubbles you're referring to are the "bead" of the liquor. It's generally considered to be more of a test of the alcohol content of the liquor in question but since it relies on surface tension it could produce evidence of impurities ... maybe.

There's not alot of material on the subject (it was mostly used in the proofing of moonshine until people began using additives to change the beading properties) but here's a link to get you started on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonshine#Mixtures . Or just find an old bootlegger and he probably still knows how to bead test liquor, hehe.


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