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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Robin S » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:47 pm UTC

P.S. I have to try cheese and peanut butter sometime.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:47 pm UTC

That must be why my bread feels drier when I dip it in olive oil.


Eh. If your bread were heinously drying in itself (as mashed peanuts are), the oil certainly wouldn't help much.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby marshlight » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:02 pm UTC

Robin S wrote:P.S. I have to try cheese and peanut butter sometime.

I used to request PB&J&cheese sandwiches as a treat in middle school. No one ever wanted to steal my lunch. :D Haven't had one in years but I remember them being very...interesting.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby libellule » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:09 pm UTC

marshlight wrote:
Robin S wrote:P.S. I have to try cheese and peanut butter sometime.

I used to request PB&J&cheese sandwiches as a treat in middle school. No one ever wanted to steal my lunch. :D Haven't had one in years but I remember them being very...interesting.

PB&cheese&honey are delish.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Cheese » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:10 pm UTC

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby George Orr » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:36 pm UTC

Chunky, fatty, processed peanut butter is the way to go. This thread reminds me that I seriously need to get a can of it to keep in my dorm.

I think this has already been mentioned, but one of my favorite snacks is to make toast, either with bread or with a bagel, and then spread peanut butter and jam/honey on it while it is still hot. The peanut butter gets all warm and melty and mixes deliciously with whatever other topping you chose to put on. This was my breakfast for a large portion of my Senior year in high school.

Oh, and the only time I'll consider eating creamy peanut butter is on a sandwich. It doesn't have the backbone to stand up under scrutiny in other situations.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:38 pm UTC

I just found pomegranate jelly at the store. There will be many peanut butter sandwiches in my future.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby bbctol » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:08 pm UTC

PEANUT BUTTER AND QUINCE PASTE. Like the stuff you get with cheeses, occasionally.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby George Orr » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:12 am UTC

bbctol wrote:PEANUT BUTTER AND QUINCE PASTE. Like the stuff you get with cheeses, occasionally.

Actually, that sounds kind of bad.

Granted, I'm not exactly sure what quince paste is, but peanut butter with anything-paste just does not sound right.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby dubsola » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:59 am UTC

Robin S wrote:P.S. I have to try cheese and peanut butter sometime.
It's pretty damn good.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby bookishbunny » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:01 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
That must be why my bread feels drier when I dip it in olive oil.


Eh. If your bread were heinously drying in itself (as mashed peanuts are), the oil certainly wouldn't help much.


Mashed peanuts, when mashed finely enough, yield a substance called 'peanut butter', which is not a 'dry' substance at all.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:36 pm UTC

Say what you like. Every couple months, I take leave of my common sense and buy a jar of "natural" peanut butter. No matter what I do to it, it is dry, thick, and tastes of sand and ass.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby bookishbunny » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:50 pm UTC

Stop buying a 'jar'. Go somewhere that has the little machine that's filled with peanuts. You press the little button and it crushes and pulverizes and squishes the peanuts, pouring the delicious peanut butter into a plastic tub for you to take home. You can get just a little bit of it to try. If you have a Whole Foods in your area, you can also get it with chocolate chips (I have not tried this yet). Yes, it is grainy, and I don't have anything I can compare it to to make that sound good, but it is.

edit to add: Whose ass have you licked that tastes like peanuts? I may know somebody I can fix them up with.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:52 pm UTC

I've used the grinders as well. Nothing makes this good.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby bookishbunny » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:54 pm UTC

I feel sorry for your lack of taste.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby dubsola » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:57 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Say what you like.
Well, we were told to get confrontational.

So, having never actually seen 'natural' peanut butter, I've no idea what you're all talking about. I finally got interested enough to get up to have a look in the cupboard to see if my peanut butter was 'natural' or not. It doesn't SAY natural on the jar, but the ingredients are listed as peanuts, sugar, palm oil, salt, and vegetable oil. Is this considered 'natural' or what? It tastes fine to me, completely unlike sand OR ass. And it's not too dry.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby bookishbunny » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:12 pm UTC

Natural is usually only peanuts or peanuts & salt.

I don't know why a variety of sugar sources wouldn't be considered natural, since they are in other foods. Maybe it's the oils & how they are produced?
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:15 pm UTC

Yeah, unless I'm mistaken, it's generally the hydrogenated vegetable oil that makes it unnatural.

It also makes it smoother and more easily spreadable.

And delicious on sandwiches.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Angelene » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:18 pm UTC

The only issue I've ever had with 100% peanut butter was that it has to be given an almighty stirring before its first use, as it tends to separate. Otherwise, I think it tastes rather peanutty and lovely.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby dubsola » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:19 pm UTC

Mine had vegetable oils - guess that means it's unnatural. Well, it's delicious.

Want to know why? Because it's crunchy.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Angelene » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:24 pm UTC

Ah, yeah, the creamy/crunchy debate.

they both have their place, I think, it depends on the bread largely...and with toast it doesn't really matter, but with very soft bread, crunchy peanut butter can make an impossible mess of the spreading procedure, tears the bread up something awful if not plastered on thickly, so I find with smooth I tend to use a lot less, so it's less calorific for me, in that regard.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby PatrickRsGhost » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:35 pm UTC

dubsola wrote:So, having never actually seen 'natural' peanut butter, I've no idea what you're all talking about. I finally got interested enough to get up to have a look in the cupboard to see if my peanut butter was 'natural' or not. It doesn't SAY natural on the jar, but the ingredients are listed as peanuts, sugar, palm oil, salt, and vegetable oil. Is this considered 'natural' or what? It tastes fine to me, completely unlike sand OR ass. And it's not too dry.


bookishbunny wrote:Natural is usually only peanuts or peanuts & salt.

I don't know why a variety of sugar sources wouldn't be considered natural, since they are in other foods. Maybe it's the oils & how they are produced?


I employed my Google skillz, and found this on the Jif website:

Jif.com wrote:Is there a huge difference between regular peanut butter and natural peanut butter?

Peanut butter today is remarkably like that made 100 years ago. All peanut butter must, by law, contain a minimum of 90% peanuts. Both natural and regular peanut butters may contain some sugar and salt for flavoring. Some brands also contain a small amount of stabilizer (partially hydrogenated vegetable oil) to keep the oil from separating, which most consumers prefer. This also helps maintain peanut butter freshness.


So in other words, there really is no major difference between natural and regular peanut butter, as far as the main ingredients are concerned, with the exception of the partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, which act as a "stabilizer", keeping the ingredients "intact", so you don't have to stir it each time you go to use it.

I think the only main difference is in regular peanut butter, there might be some mono- and diglycerides that act as preservatives, to help it have a long shelf life. Natural peanut butter might only have a shelf life of a week or two, and must be kept refrigerated. Regular, or manufactured, peanut butter can be kept at room temperature, and usually has a shelf life of one to two years after opening.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Pesto » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:29 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
It seems your ability to discern moisture is deficient. There is enough oil in fresh peanut butter that you can pour it like honey if you are so inclined (the pb, not the oil).


Yes. Oil also is not a terribly water-rich substance. It only adds to the dry sensation.

Uh, your beloved unnatural peanut butter is just as "dry".

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:30 pm UTC

But it tastes smooth and delicious.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Pesto » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:33 pm UTC

You spelled insipid wrong.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:44 pm UTC

Nope. Still tastes like peanut butter. Just has a more pleasing texture.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Pesto » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:37 pm UTC

Except that you can't improve on perfection.

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:40 pm UTC

True, but that's no reason to step back down from perfection to imperfect grinding procedures and unstable oils.

Not to mention, patrick's rant reminded me of the other part I hate about natural: it has to be refrigerated. So it's always cold when you eat it. Bleah.

Give me my shelf-stable, immortal peanut butter any day of the week.

I also have shelf-stable, organic chocolate milk, too, for that matter. Good stuff.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Cheese » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:50 pm UTC

Belial wrote:I also have shelf-stable, organic chocolate milk, too, for that matter. Good stuff.

One of the few true things said by a pro(peanut butter)er in this thread. Well done.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Insignificant Deifaction » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:33 pm UTC

Has anyone else tried other nuts and even cracked peanuts in their peanut butter? It's interesting.

And I agree with Belial Unnatural>Natural
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby MFHodge » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:53 pm UTC

Side topic: Best Peanut Butter-base candy?

Of course Reese's Cups are awesome, but I like to have a little more going on in my candy. The Nutrageous bar is pretty excellent. Caramel + PB = win.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby space_raptor » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:02 pm UTC

Reese's Peanut Butter Cups suck. I have never liked them. It boggles my mind that they are still in business.

Chocolate and peanut butter can taste good, but not like that. Bleh.

Peanut butter cookies are pretty damn good though.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Bakemaster » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:32 pm UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:So in other words, there really is no major difference between natural and regular peanut butter, as far as the main ingredients are concerned, with the exception of the partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, which act as a "stabilizer", keeping the ingredients "intact", so you don't have to stir it each time you go to use it.

Steel is 98% iron. No major difference between the two? Would you eat peanut butter that was 98% peanuts, 2% arsenic? Exagerration to make a point.

As far as I know, natural peanut butter doesn't have to be refrigerated, it just keeps the oil from separating. And if you do refrigerate it, 10 seconds in the microwave makes it nice and spready again.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Cheese » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:34 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:Steel is 98% iron. No major difference between the two? Would you eat peanut butter that was 98% peanuts, 2% arsenic? Exagerration to make a point.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Belial » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:36 pm UTC

space_raptor wrote:Reese's Peanut Butter Cups suck. I have never liked them. It boggles my mind that they are still in business.


They're still in business because the *rest* of the world are not tasteless freaks.

Freak.

Reese's cups are delicious, but I agree with Hodge, I like to have a bit more going on. I'd have to say it's a run-off between Chick-O-Sticks (peanut butter and coconut candy) and the new Reese's Crisp candybar.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby MFHodge » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:38 pm UTC

Belial wrote:the new Reese's Crisp candybar.

Ah. I forgot about that one. Very nice. It has what Butterfinger, 5th Avenue, and Clark are all missing. That extra creaminess.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Robin S » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:39 pm UTC

I dislike all combinations of peanut and chocolate.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby ArchangelShrike » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:40 pm UTC

Anyone thinking of the old Reese's Peanut Butter Cup commercials, where they "ask" characters how they eat one? Only ate mine cold after seeing the dragon take his out of the freezer...

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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby PatrickRsGhost » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:46 pm UTC

space_raptor wrote:Reese's Peanut Butter Cups suck. I have never liked them. It boggles my mind that they are still in business.


Robin S wrote:I dislike all combinations of peanut and chocolate.


You have no sould. You also have no taste. Philistines.

ArchangelShrike wrote:Anyone thinking of the old Reese's Peanut Butter Cup commercials, where they "ask" characters how they eat one? Only ate mine cold after seeing the dragon take his out of the freezer...


I've known a lot of people who did that. I tried it once. Didn't like it, because it made the Reese's cups too hard. I remember the one commercial with the two kids, where one of them ate the centers first, then the outside. This gave him "Reese's Specs" he could look through. For a while I did mine that way. I also remember the one with the vampire.
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Re: Time to get confrontational about peanut butter

Postby Anmorata » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:57 pm UTC

Oh yeah. I was (and still am) the person that nibbles the chocolate tips off, first. :)
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