VLC vs. Media Player Classic

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VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Felstaff » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:50 pm UTC

VLC used to be my magic bullet solution for everything, but I've now essentially migrated to the classic Media Player Classic. This started out due to VLC not being able to render some home movies I made back with a digital camera back in 2006 (cherished memories? home-made pornography? Actually, it was just some crappy footage of a few concerts I went to in the mid-noughties), but I can't see any differences between the two. Since downgrading to Windows 10, VLC has been thorny with me, whereas MPC-HC (does the HC stand for 'Home Cinema'?) has worked flawlessly. I see it as the hardy stripped-down Winamp competing with VLC's iTunes.

Is it me, or is searching for the right codecs without accidentally downloading malware-ridden DivX codecs something that only affects older Millennials? Do media players now just play everything? Whatever happened to the K-lite codec pack? How do the kids on my lawn fathom snapchat? *waves cane*

Basically, what's your media player of choice, and why?
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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby PeteP » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:58 pm UTC

You are right it has been a long time since I had to deal with codec packs or anything directly. Anyway Media player classic for me, it works well, pauses when I click on the screen (fairly normal but tried one which didn't and it was annoying) the way the progress bar disappears works well for me (have used some in the past where you had to avoid moving the mouse at all instead of just keeping it out of the area) and it has the option to add an offset for the audio while it is running not super important but I have had videos before where the audio was 1-2 sec off.

Although I have mostly switched to streaming everything.

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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Weeks » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:03 pm UTC

Felstaff wrote:Since downgrading to Windows 10
Am I the only person who has not had any problems with it?

Anywho, MPC all the way. I've been using it for years. It plays everything and does everything I need it to. I've only used VLC once, to attempt to fix a file that didn't work on my TV, but it was just an audio issue, and ended up not using it anyway.
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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Felstaff » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:45 pm UTC

Weeks wrote:
Felstaff wrote:Since downgrading to Windows 10
Am I the only person who has not had any problems with it?

My start menu broke: or, it would work for a few hours, then refuse to show itself (especially if I awoke the computer from sleep). Never in my 21 years of Windows use has the start menu failed. Then the jerry-rigged advice broke pretty much everything from there on out. A lot of the Window 10 features (big monocolour boxes) feel like skins over existing Windows XP functions. i.e. the settings
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is literally just a skin papering over the control panel, which exists in the same format as it has done since XP. It feels like WinX is just a stylised layer over legacy Windows functions; shiny apple plaster over a dreary windows foundation. The default 'apps' keep reverting the internet browser to Edge with every background update (it keeps trying to find chrome_old.exe, no matter how many times I pick out Chrome.exe as a default app and resetting all the protocols to Chrome). It keeps resetting my media player to GrooveMusic, or whatever the hell Microsoft's crappy in-built media player is calling itself nowadays. It regularly loses my keyboard, which is understandable because it's fourteen years old, but it's a Microsoft product (Wireless Multimedia Keyboard 1.1) and the drivers, which worked fine with Windows 7 and 8, now no longer allow me to assign macros to the bubble keys at the top ("Media", "Mail", "Web/Home", "Messenger" etc.) I don't think WinX is a terrible product - it seems to do its job most of the time, I just preferred the aesthetics and functionality of Windows 7 over the brazen polychromacrobatics of X.

PeteP wrote:
Although I have mostly switched to streaming everything.

This is true for me, too. I suppose that renders the original question moot. My default media players are, really, Netflix 'n' Chrome.

However, I'm never one for binning the Old Ways. Much like using books at home, and e-readers on the train, I have plenty of mp4s and gp3s in my library when I'm not bingeing on stranger things, like old episodes of Rick and Morty or using another free month of Amazon Optimus to catch that last episode of The Man in the High Castle.
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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Flumble » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:28 pm UTC

I'm still using MPC on my old system because back then I preferred the whole CCCP library and it starts instantaneously contrary to all other players.

But now that I don't bother with writing pixel shaders inline and using other esoteric filters anymore and all the players have gone minimal, I don't really prefer one over the other. Actually, on my new system I just installed k-lite and use "groove" to play media.

Felstaff wrote:(does the HC stand for 'Home Cinema'?)

Yes, but I have no idea why that's sewn on. Next thing they'll glue "pro edition" and "unlimited" to it.


Felstaff wrote:is literally just a skin papering over the control panel, which exists in the same format as it has done since XP. It feels like WinX is just a stylised layer over legacy Windows functions; shiny apple plaster over a dreary windows foundation.

Yeah, but they also added some new settings that are only available through the new views! Making it ever more confusing for a power user. :?

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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Soupspoon » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:10 pm UTC

I've mentioned elsewhere that whatever VLC doesn't do for me, including the useful 1.5x speed option to save me time, I'll use ffplay for.

I only use Windows Media Player on my Win2k macine, because the XP+ versions started to do silly things with the audio. (But I've got VLC on there as well. Cues up a sequence of audio files much better and has that 1.5x and 2x ability that I find so useful.)

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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Flumble » Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:05 pm UTC

Soupspoon wrote:I've mentioned elsewhere that whatever VLC doesn't do for me, including the useful 1.5x speed option to save me time, I'll use ffplay for.

You mean the Menu -> Playback -> Faster option? (or the hotkey or the slider you get when you click on the playback speed in the status bar) Or do you have a machine-specific problem that renders VLC unable to change playback speed?

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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Soupspoon » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:43 am UTC

Flumble wrote:
Soupspoon wrote:I've mentioned elsewhere that whatever VLC doesn't do for me, including the useful 1.5x speed option to save me time, I'll use ffplay for.

You mean the Menu -> Playback -> Faster option? (or the hotkey or the slider you get when you click on the playback speed in the status bar) Or do you have a machine-specific problem that renders VLC unable to change playback speed?

Sorry, wrong phrasing, inverting my meaning

VLC does most things for me, including speed changes (numpad +/-, mostly, but rightclick context menu is where I occasionally go to when messing with multiple thngs during video playback), but for the few things it doesn't (e. g. the odd spurious codec issue) I find ffplay (command line or customised filetype rightclick loaders for the recurring needs) fills in the gaps just nicely.

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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby phlip » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:43 am UTC

I basically live in the command line these days, and I CBA to organise a media library when I have a perfectly good filesystem that can handle all that anyway, so mpv is my media player of choice for most circumstances. Before I learned about that project sometime last year, I used its predecessor MPlayer.

When I somehow find myself on a Windows computer despite my better judgement (or when I'm recommending a media player to family), VLC is my second option. I personally find it a bit too heavy for my tastes, and prefer the unobtrusiveness of a media player that will open quickly, play the thing, and then get out of the way.

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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Weeks » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:35 pm UTC

phlip wrote:When I somehow find myself on a Windows computer despite my better judgement (or when I'm recommending a media player to family), VLC is my second option. I personally find it a bit too heavy for my tastes, and prefer the unobtrusiveness of a media player that will open quickly, play the thing, and then get out of the way.
Ah, so you prefer MPC too. Good choice.
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Re: VLC vs. Media Player Classic

Postby Derek » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:39 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:I'm still using MPC on my old system because back then I preferred the whole CCCP library and it starts instantaneously contrary to all other players.

I'm still a big advocate for using CCCP. It gives you the latest MPC with every codec you could possibly need (because the anime fansubbing community that CCCP targets has a hard on for using bleeding edge encoding technology) and everything configured properly. Just install it, don't touch the configuration screen, associate your files, and you're done. And while it's true that VLC also takes minimal effort, it's heavier weight and once in a while won't handle a file correctly.


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