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The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:40 pm UTC

Nice idea rachel...support can be really helpful when it comes to weight-loss and fitness goals, also it can help to commit one's goals to written words, I think.

I never had an issue with my weight until I started living with girls that did, and then I seemed to contract the desire to control my weight even though it was doing a pretty good job of controlling itself...thus started the cycle of starving and bingeing, and I lost all ability to eat regularly and normally. After experimenting with basically every single one on the market I can say with some authority that diets really do make one fat...I've slimmed down to 120 and ballooned up to my current weight, now I'm just trying to regain some sense of normalcy and regularity in my eating, although I will have to suffer some depravation to begin with in order to get back down to my fighting weight. I've never been great with exercising, either...I'm lazy as sin, but I hope to join a gym in a couple of month's time, and until then maybe just get walking and doing some light exercise at home. I just know that I need to do something now before my weight gets entirely out of control. So, for now I'm going to try and cut out sugar and a lot of carbs, my diet is so almost entirely carb-based that I hardly eat anything else and I tend to have no self control with sugary or starchy foods, control my portion sizes and eat at regular intervals...eating little and often seems to be the best way to go.

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby rachel » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:48 pm UTC

As one person who's struggled with eating disorders to another, let me firstly tell you how proud I am that you're going to try to do this in a healthy way. That's awesome and I know you can do it! Instead of depriving yourself of foods, focus more on eradicating from your diet the bad foods and replacing them with healthy foods. Most, if not all, fruits and vegetables require your body to expend about the same amount of calories that you take in when you eat them. I know I preach this like the end of the world is coming and fruits and veggies are your ticket to heaven, but seriously, they're an awesome way to not deprive yourself while not filling up on fatty foods. It's not really about deprivation, more about changing your eating habits. Again, way to go on doing this in a way that's not harming yourself.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:11 pm UTC

Thanks for that rachel, it means a lot...it's all about changing a mindset for me. I've been looking into something called "intuitive eating", it's about basically learning to recognise your natural appetite, again. Anyone know anything of it?
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby 0range » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:39 pm UTC

Angelene wrote:I've been looking into something called "intuitive eating", it's about basically learning to recognise your natural appetite, again. Anyone know anything of it?


Does it have anything to do with eating different types of food for your blood type?
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby ZeroSum » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:53 pm UTC

From what I gather it's related to the idea that your mind and body are pretty good at self-regulation. So if you only eat when hungry and only eat the foods you hunger for you should be getting a balanced, healthy diet as a result.

However, from what I understand you have to start with a broad, healthy diet so that your body knows what to go for, since you tend to desire that which you've eaten previously.

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:54 pm UTC

Ha, nope, it seems more about eating what you want, when you want it, but never eating so much that you're full, and only eating when hungry.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:03 pm UTC

ZeroSum wrote:From what I gather it's related to the idea that your mind and body are pretty good at self-regulation. So if you only eat when hungry and only eat the foods you hunger for you should be getting a balanced, healthy diet as a result.

I am hungry all the time for junk food... my body wants to commit suicide.

However, I have read about this, where they gave kids between the ages of 8 and 12 whatever they wanted to eat for a whole month, and over the course of the whole month, they ate a balanced diet. It started off with junk food but then they all started gravitating to specifically healthy foods. Very cool.

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:20 pm UTC

MJ, chances are that you're not hungry all the time, but your body has lost all its natural ability to discern when it wants and doesn't want food...and, you know, being a little hungry all the time isn't the worst sensation in the world...have you tried halving your portions for a few weeks, you'd be amazed at the stomach's ability to shrink back to size...you will be hungry initially, but you certainly shouldn't be starving.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:41 pm UTC

Working on it. I often don't remember I've promised to eat less until after I've eaten something.

For instance, I just ate a Skor bar. It was in a bag on the counter, leftovers from my son's party. It's Sunday morning... hey, Skor bar. *munch munch munch*

Then I walked out of the kitchen, and thought "I shouldn't have eaten that."

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby apricity » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:08 am UTC

Angelene, I think one important thing to note is that right now, you're at a healthy weight for your height. Try not to focus on the number on the scale... focus on eating healthy and balanced, getting some exercise, cutting out the junk, but if you do all that and still don't get down to your goal weight, try your best not to let it be an issue. I know how easy it is to look at the numbers and become disappointed, and it's hard to combat that impulse. But really, being healthy is the important thing, not being of a certain weight.

I'm sure you're aware of all of this, but this kind of advice is what I always need to hear over and over to keep believing in it, and I think it helps to have it pointed out often.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:22 am UTC

Ah but I have a weight where I actually like the look of myself, and where my clothes fit best, etc...and it's not this weight...if I could get my head into long term mode I'd be doing so much better, but I'm used to dieting where I lose a dozen pounds in the first few weeks and then realising how easy it is to lose weight I binge, knowing I can lose it again whenever I want...my only issue now is that I can't seem to summon up the will power for the losing the pounds part, so I'm just getting bigger, slowly but surely. A healthy balanced diet is all I need, and I know that, and my weight would regulate itself somewhere around 140, I've a small frame, and I'm naturally thin enough, but I'm working against my nature. I know it all, of course, but it's putting all the theory into practice.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:12 am UTC

So, I've just weighed myself for the first time in the last month, and I'm 148. (That's down 6lbs in 4weeks) I'm not entirely sure how I've managed a net loss after the last few weeks. I started off horribly, really really terrible, but last week was the best eating week I'd had for quite a while...thanks to the advice of a friend and forumite I started my food diary and counting calories, and finally making myself accountable for what I was eating was such a wake up call. I could throw away all the chocolate wrappers but the figures in the diary don't lie.

So I just ate regularly, and normally, for the first time in months, lots of fruit (maybe too much, even), fresh veg, clean protein, only one carby meal a day, and a 99cal chocolate bar in the evenings only if I've had a virtuous day...and so I made sure I'd been good because I'll be damned if I'm foregoing that.

My only stepback was a rather emotional day where I regressed to old bingeing ways, eating two days worth of calories in one day...but realising that the family size pack of chocolate was equivalent to a healthy and fulfilling three meals and I didn't want to kill myself after eating the latter...well, I realised it's just not worth it, forgave myself and promised to do better for the rest of the weekend, and to forego a few superfluous cals for those three days to balance out the binge. I know it's not quite so cut and dry in reality, but if I feel I have to make a sacrifice then I feel less guilty but also less inclined to relapse because I know there's a price to pay.

Of course my next task is to incorporate some level of activity into my ever so sedentary lifestyle.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby 22/7 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:10 pm UTC

Good luck, Angelene! Sorry it took me a month to find this thing. I claim it was not my fault, as you were clearly hiding from me.

Glad to hear things are (or were, recently, anyway) going well!
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Serendipity » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:33 am UTC

nevskey1 wrote:This thread inspired me to a rant, which I've ranted before (not on these fora, I don't think), which I've spoiler'd for space. I hope it doesn't come off as crude or callous, because I'm by no means unsympathetic. I've just seen enough people (and close people) drive themselves insane with this sort of stuff, so here's my take on the issue.
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Fuck it. Forget about it. Just let it go and it’ll let you go. Remember in that movie Jersey Girl, Liv Tyler said something to the effect of :”Maybe you should stop trying to be who you thought you were then, and just accept who you are now.” Or something like that. It was a great line.

Anyway, my point is that this is all just self-absorbed narcissism. Which I’m not at all trying to pass blame or judgment on. We live in a culture of narcissism, and what you’re doing is just what you’re supposed to be doing: playing an unwinnable cat and mouse game with yourself and your body image, or chasing your own tale, or whatever metaphor you want.

It’s quite clear how inundated we are with all this crap that tries to get you addictively obsessed with how you look and how healthy you are, but in a very puritanically hypochondriacal way. And it’s gone beyond the anorexic celebrity magazine cult. The rabbit hole is in everyone’s face all the time. Every time I go to check my email (hotmail) I have to get passed shit like this and this, and that’s just from today. All you need is just a click, a little taste, a small peak just out of curiosity, and they got you. One website leads to another and you’re hooked: counting calories, avoiding carbs, chewing celery, and buying all sorts of bullshit pharmaceutical idols. It’s just another form of self-destruction being packaged as “self-perfection.” And this is to be expected. How many atrocities have already been committed in history in the perverted name of decent things?

Look, the political/economic machine always works off the frictional heat of its own false dichotomies. The battle against communism is just as lucrative as the promotion of communism. The war on drugs is just as lucrative as selling drugs (in the ghettos). The war against the war is just as lucrative as the war itself. And the battle against obesity is just as lucrative as Mcdonalds’s helping to make people obese. And they’ll always try to scare you into picking a side with the obesity epidemic, avian flu, terrorism, crack, etc. IT’S ALL BULLSHIT.

So fight back by not playing along with their bullshit. My advice is to counteract the hypochondria by enjoying a little genuine self-destruction occasionally. You don’t have to join a fight club, but stop trying to control every calorie and achieve an ideal perfection that by definition (and that definition is not yours, however much it may seem top be) is unattainable.

The fact is that there is no rulebook for life. You can't rationalize it into order, and look up the answer to every question. Just as with moral questions you know intuitively, by virtue of being a human, what is right and what is wrong, same with eating. In organic nature, instead of a rational organization, there's a harmonic balance when an organism is healthy, and a disharmony in the case of pathology. Rationality and calculation will not help you here. (I have an argument for this that invokes Godel, but I won't get into that here. Basically, G is the valuable intuitive knowledge that can't be grasped by reasoning.) What is needed is a recovery of eudaimonia. And that is the reflection of an aesthetic harmony in nature, not a goose-stepping rational organization, which can be helpful in some things, like science, but can be quite detrimental when taken to an absurd extreme.

Safe and clean and healthy as our new American utopia may be, it got to be so only through paranoid, over-zealously rational sterilization, and at the cost of sanity, intuition, and self-confidence.
@Angelene: The main thing I want to say is that I wouldn't stress too much over weight loss. Judging by your stats in your OP, it seems like your at a perfectly normal and healthy weight. I understand you expect the body you had before the eating problems, but consider this: a body grows and develops on it's own. Maybe where you're at now is where you would have been anyway, just in the course of a more natural progression? But in any case, it doesn't sound at all like anything worth going crazy over. Just don't make eating (or not eating) the central concern of your life, get a little exercise, and try to recover a natural balance.

Edit: Note: This is my 100th post. I just noticed that. Cool.

Your post is awesome. I think there is definitely a case to be made that Western culture is largely based around creating anxiety. (Anxiety = profit!) Also, I have a nerdy urge to hear the argument that involves Godel. Mod note: This conversation has moved to the Societal effects thread.

To Angelene:
Essentially, you want to strike a balance between being aware of what you eat and not stressing about what you eat. What has always been helpful for me is:

The perspective hammer (http://www.viruscomix.com/page392.html): Chances are, there are more important things going on in your life than your weight. It doesn't really justify taking up a substantial part of your emotional energy. I think there is a natural tendency to start obsessing over weight, not because weight is important, but because it is a distraction from whatever else is going on in your life. If you can have absolute control over your body/weight, then your life is in control - right? Basically, it's the world's shittest defence mechanism. As such, tell it to go fuck itself. Whenever you feel anxious about your weight/what you've just eaten, try to simply decide on a (realistic & healthy!) course of action - e.g. exercise twice in the next two days, don't eat 'empty' calories for a while - and then put it out of your mind. Beyond deciding on that course of action and sticking to it, any further thought you devote to the 'problem' will be counter productive.


Also: if you want to get into doing exercise - the important thing to remember is that you want it to be at least somewhat enjoyable. Have you tried yoga, pilates or martial arts? They have a focus/purpose i.e. learning things that I find notably absent from things like jogging. What kinds of exercise have you been thinking about doing?

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby apricity » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:43 am UTC

How are you doing now, Angelene? You sounded like you were doing well, especially when you forgave yourself for binging. That's hard to do and (let's hope I can say this without sounding condescending because I don't mean to) I admire you for that. I've had plenty of issues with binging and forgiveness is the hardest.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:26 am UTC

lanicita wrote:How are you doing now, Angelene? You sounded like you were doing well, especially when you forgave yourself for binging. That's hard to do and (let's hope I can say this without sounding condescending because I don't mean to) I admire you for that. I've had plenty of issues with binging and forgiveness is the hardest.


I have good days and bad, to be honest. I'm somewhere between 144 and 147 depending on how virtuous I'm being. Lately I've been considering revisiting South Beach because last time I had adventured with it I found it really helpful in making good choices, and killing cravings for horrible carbs.

I've been obsessively calorie counting and I don't think it's healthy, especially when I'm sacrificing real whole foods, for lower calorie, processed alternatives just for the sake of volume/calorie trade-offs. I wish I could just decide to eat healthily and be done with it, but I barely know what that means anymore, and I can't trust myself to make good choices and keep portions in check...moderation has never been something I've been good with! Watch this space, I guess.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby 22/7 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:39 pm UTC

I've found that I'm far better about portions than I am about eating "healthy." I'm not exactly sure why, but if I eat something when I start to get hungry and just keep it on the small end (not tiny, but also not a meal), then I tend to eat less throughout the day. For instance, instead of skipping lunch altogether and being hungry until 3:30 or 4 when I eat a full meal and then eating again at like 8, I'll eat a six inch sub from Subway at noonish and then eat around 6:30 or 7. Not sure if that'll work for you, but it helps me control my weight from time to time.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:21 am UTC

Aye, never letting myself get "ohmygod I'm starving, must eat, might die" is usually a good course of action...trying to maintain a steady blood sugar level is really the key, for me...but sure theory and practice aren't always partnered!
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby 22/7 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:25 am UTC

I believe this is called irony, but I actually didn't eat anything today until about 8pm. And I had thirds.

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby apricity » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:58 pm UTC

22/7 wrote:And I had thirds.

Looks to me like you had sevenths...

*Groan* I know, I know. :roll:
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby 22/7 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:52 am UTC

God bless you, lanicita.

So, I'm actually down to (within a few pounds of) my goal weight. You know what did it for me? I drank a lot of alcohol over the weekend, got sick and vomited profusely. The next day I was hung over enough to not feel like eating much of anything. And I played a game of softball and two games of sand volleyball in 80+ degree weather and high humidity... while dehydrated. I highly recommend this approach to everyone. Don't eat, dehydrate and exercise. I've got something here, I can feel it.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:44 pm UTC

Hell...dehydration is key to all good diets. Just be careful with water intake, keep it minimal, your rather deprived body will cling to every precious drop...and you don't want to gain back all that unnecessary water weight.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby apricity » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:47 pm UTC

Heh, I know you're both being sarcastic but there's actually a point to make here that many dieters do in fact end up dehydrated. If nothing else, drink water when you exercise. Dehydration is really really bad for you.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby akashra » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:52 pm UTC

Angelene wrote:Hell...dehydration is key to all good diets. Just be careful with water intake, keep it minimal, your rather deprived body will cling to every precious drop...and you don't want to gain back all that unnecessary water weight.

Oh, how the ability to detect sarcasm fails me when it comes to forum posts.

As a person who drinks probably a glass an hour while I'm at work every day, I read this wanting to scream and yell at the screen.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:29 am UTC

I drink ridiculous amounts of water on a daily basis, nothing to do with weight control or the like, I just tend to feel better when I do. I've seen instances where anorectics are loathed to ingest as much as a glass of water for fear of gaining any kind of mass, even temporarily, so my comment probably wasn't in the best taste.

On a more relevant note, this is day 4 of my carb restriction and I'm feeling rather good for it. I know, I know, faddy diets, bad, etc...but killing carbs for a couple of weeks and then SLOWLY reintroducing whole grains and fruit is supposed to help stabilise blood sugar levels and control cravings, and after a rather awful week of eating, I needed some help getting back on track.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby 22/7 » Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:31 am UTC

akashra wrote:
Angelene wrote:Hell...dehydration is key to all good diets. Just be careful with water intake, keep it minimal, your rather deprived body will cling to every precious drop...and you don't want to gain back all that unnecessary water weight.

Oh, how the ability to detect sarcasm fails me when it comes to forum posts.

As a person who drinks probably a glass an hour while I'm at work every day, I read this wanting to scream and yell at the screen.

It's all good. Angelene wouldn't do anything to kill me intentionally. I don't think she would, anyway. Would she?
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Sun May 11, 2008 2:36 am UTC

Update:

So, the last month has been a bit of a nightmare for me...personal problems has made me fall back on my crutch of emotional eating and I'm too scared to weigh myself as I know I am at least back at my highest weight. However, I feel ready to take charge again, and while I wish I could say I was doing this by just adopting a healthy diet, I need something a bit more structured.

I stumbled across this alternative day dieting, wherein every second day I cycle my calories between 1800 and 600...the overall for the week creating a significant calorie deficit and yet it doesn't smack of deprivation like usual diets do as on "up-days" I can eat as I please (within reason) and only really have to calorie count for half the week. It's also supposed to be beneficial for one's health and longevity.

http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com

It's worth a try, anyway. Watch this space!
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Sunsnail » Sun May 11, 2008 6:58 pm UTC

I know nothing about human bodies or dieting, but something inside of me says that that diet seems unhealthy.

edit: But after reading more, it sounds like a dream come true. I can eat 2700 calories worth every other day? :shock:

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Mitora » Mon May 12, 2008 8:54 pm UTC

O.o I agree with 22/7 in his first theory, that sounds really unhealthy.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:27 pm UTC

Eeek, has it really been so long since I last updated? Well, had I actually been eating regularly and normally these last few months I've little doubt that I'd be at goal of 140...however I have absolutely no idea what normal is anymore. None, zero, zilch.

I'm back at 150. I know that's not huge for 5'10, but it's big for me. As I write this, my tummy feels fit to explode from the volume of food eaten tonight. I am actually rather scared at my inability to stop eating of late, bottomless pit comes to mind. And this isn't some silly rant where I'm crying over a slice of pizza. Actually the amount I've eaten is too embarrassing to write, I don't want to confront it, to be honest.

It's making me actually seriously depressed beyond belief, none of my clothes are fitting and I'm just yearning for the willpower to enter starvation mode, but it seems even that has deserted me. I know every diet and method of weight controlling eating in existence, and every single one is vying for attention...I know the basic science is simply maintaining a calorie deficit, right? I'm just beyond confused at this point.

I'm not sure why I'm writing this as I'm really not looking for platitudes or dietary advice. I just don't know where else to vent about this. sigh.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Terebrant » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:56 pm UTC

Why be so harsh ?

Yes, 150 is not your objective. But it is also below your initial weight so good job in not only avoiding weight gain since february but also having lost some.

Being depressed is not good. I suppose you already thought about it but, buying clothes which fit you might help. On the one hand, you aren't constantly reminded of your weight (or rather your shape), on the other hand, feeling at ease is worth a lot if it doesn't mean settling for something unhealthy.

Good luck.

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby apricity » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:22 am UTC

Stop thinking about starvation mode. Stop thinking about diets. Don't fall into that pattern where you desperately want to just get rid of all of it in one day, and you'll do anything to get there. I've been there, and it's always at that point where I binge eat the worst. Instead of restricting yourself, eat what you want, but try to ration it a little more. Eating just one less cookie, or one less slice of pizza is going to benefit you a lot. Get back to the point where you feel comfortable eating the amount you've traditionally felt is "normal" for you to eat. Take it slow, try to talk yourself out of any frustration you feel when you can't resist an urge. Fulfill it and move on, don't yell at yourself for giving in, because you always criticize yourself the worst of anyone and your own is always the criticism that hits you hardest. Be nice to yourself.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:43 pm UTC

Thanks lanicita, what you said was very kind and comforting, and I know that's exactly what I need to do...but alas the theory and practice don't always collide...I was going really well all week, eating moderately and consistently, no splurges or binges or promises of starvation. Then today the office was flooded with sweets, so I indulged, only a little, but enough to awaken the dragon, and I've been eating constantly since I've gotten home...I know that the best thing I can do is forgive and forget and have a healthy breakfast in the morning, but what I really want to do is not eat anything all day tomorrow in hopes of everything canceling out.
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby 22/7 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:57 pm UTC

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Angelene wrote:Thanks lanicita, what you said was very kind and comforting, and I know that's exactly what I need to do...but alas the theory and practice don't always collide...I was going really well all week, eating moderately and consistently, no splurges or binges or promises of starvation. Then today the office was flooded with sweets, so I indulged, only a little, but enough to awaken the dragon, and I've been eating constantly since I've gotten home...I know that the best thing I can do is forgive and forget and have a healthy breakfast in the morning, but what I really want to do is not eat anything all day tomorrow in hopes of everything canceling out.
But you and I both know that that's not how your body works. Just take your own advice and try to get back on the horse(or bike or whatever) for tomorrow and forget about today. I would also have to second the idea of getting some new clothes that fit you right now rather than hanging on to the ones that fit you 6 months, a year, or more ago. Either way, it's good to hear from you again!
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:26 pm UTC

Peoples, I was 141 a couple of days ago...and I have no idea how or why. I think just not thinking about it all so much, not obsessing over every morsel and fretting about having to eat at certain intervals and including/excluding certain food groups just made my body naturally gravitate towards a more naturally desirable calorific intake. Thing is, now I've realised I've lost weight I feel I have carte blanche to eat what I like in total excess. sigh. No good comes from knowing my weight!
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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby psyck0 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:37 pm UTC

Can you try looking at your new weight as something that you're proud of and want to maintain instead? Be really happy with what you've accomplished and try to feel good about yourself. Instead of looking at this as an excuse to treat yourself however you want, it's an excuse to treat yourself healthily. I hope that will help.

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Re: The Diet Queen

Postby Angelene » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:25 am UTC

140, a complete mystery. Not as great as I'd have hoped, though. My clothes all fit but none seem flattering now...they're either too big and shapeless or they're just not sitting right, and I'd need to lose more weight to go down a size. Being in between sizes is kind of a nightmare, but I don't much want to set a lower target weight, I think any less would be too little for my frame.
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